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xellesia70
post Jun 25 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Jun 13 2012, 01:02 PM)
The previous management gave too much power to HR and stressed that everyone contributes equally to the company so the remuneration scheme is the same across the board. This mentality is probably okay if you are working in government office but for an MNC to have this kind of mentality in the 21st century is suicidal.

The performance management review/assessment is also another factor. I mean, I worked my ass off and only got a rating of 3 because my boss expected me to work like a higher grade code because that's where he envisioned I would be in the future. How's that for a dumb ass reason for not giving me a good rating. Instead of ranking me against my peers, I am being ranked with my future self. That rating 3 is also given to those who ponteng kerja, who does drugs so basically in the grand scheme of things, I am not better than those people.

I worked 10 years and my gaji at the time was not even 7K. A middle east company offered me 6 times more and tax free. It was a no brainier. This is basically the same story that you will hear from a lot of ex-pet. A company that had delusions of grandeur and deaf and blind to staff's proposal and market movement in the industry.

If you talk to any headhunter, the current climate is called "Scarced Tecnical Professionals Market". So for PETRONAS at the time to NOT taking any steps was foolish and down right criminal.
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Bro Azraeil,

Care to share your experience when you left petronas and joined other company? What was it like?
I'm seriously thinking of leaving too..But still trying to convince myself that the grass would be greener on the other side.
it has been 7 years and and i think i reach my limit.
xellesia70
post Jun 28 2012, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(maninyellow @ Jun 27 2012, 06:57 PM)
I would say depends on which department you're working in, got 2 friends, A and B. B joined high workload department, working 9-10 everyday, sat and sun exclusive.  A joined department with lighter workload, only busy on certain days of the month , after that, can clocked in early, cabut early. As of me, My boss's philosophy is, as long as you fulfill flexi working hours, working 7-4, 8-5,9-6 also can. While My friend from across department's culture quite diff, his boss practise " engineer should work late" mindset. he's been working 7-7 everyday, sat and sun inclusive since march. He suffered low morale dy......
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yes..depends on which department that you're in..you could be in department that acts like they're the bosses or could be in department where you are the scapegoat to others.. sad thing is the teamwork is no longer there..people tend to care about their KPIs a little bit too much.. the effort put is no longer important as long as the KPIs are achieved. I'm not saying that KPI oriented is bad but there are cases where the requirement is getting ridiculous and we ended up doing things that is unnecessary just for the sake of ensuring the KPIs are good.

But again, this does not apply to all.. sweat.gif

Bro azraeil, thanks for your sharing..appreciate it..
xellesia70
post Jun 30 2012, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(ixus @ Jun 30 2012, 12:05 PM)
confirm E1 salary revised to 5k d ?
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not yet as of now.
xellesia70
post Sep 18 2013, 10:40 PM

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Hi guys,
Last year I was at the breaking point and wanted to leave this company.. It was a push factor actually. Cannot tolerate the 'yes boss' environment anymore. But I was never serious in finding new jobs.. I have been floating my CVs on various employment website since last year. This year, the environment is getting worse with the recent promotions of certain GMs and SMs. I still persevere.

Suddenly, I was called for an interview and I said to myself well just give it a try, no pressure. Then, I got the offer. The offer is not really lucrative. It is almost similar to what I am getting yearly (inclusive of bonuses) albeit higher. Medical benefit cannot compete with PET of course. However, looking at the job description, it is something new and different from what I am doing now. Seems exciting as it will involve new technology selection, etc.

But do I leave because of my current environment or I just need to hang in there? Or do I take this new opportunity but loosing some of the perks now?

One of my senior colleague used to tell me that, if you leave because of the environment, you will somehow end up in almost similar environment elsewhere. U will get frustrated again..it would be a vicious cycle then.

still dont know what shd I do.. sad.gif

xellesia70
post Oct 5 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Vicviper @ Oct 3 2013, 09:41 AM)
I am exactly in a similar situation like you. Now considering on whether to accept the offer from Petronas. The increment is not that much, however, looking at the JD it will be quite a huge role covering 16 OPUs. Benefit wise it's more or less similar.

I am dilemma now because my current work environment is very flexible, i.e no one really cares if you are in the office or not, as long you are contactable and able to carry out your tasks on time. You can even work at home/Starbucks for all they care.

The only downside with my current company is I that have a limited career growth. Whereas in Petronas, I was made to understand during the interview that my career growth will be well planned in the next 5-10 years.

So yes, I am still undecided at the moment... :-/

In your case, I somehow tend to disagree with your senior colleague on his opinion. IMO an environment of a workplace really depends on the culture of that particular organisation. You'll never know until you explore it further.
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Are u joining GTS?
xellesia70
post Oct 19 2013, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(keii-kun @ Oct 9 2013, 10:44 PM)
company discretion means many thing. one of it they would not even pay your bonus if you tender before the bonus cutoff (which is not declared anywhere in the executive handbook - unless they have updated, even if u serve full financial year, which many perm staff wait to jump ship after receive bonus by 24hr notice or 1mth notice.
still worth it, than doing it nicely with 3mth notice.
move on. you never test the outside environment, you never know what is your potential outside petronas.
petronas environment is so toxic these days. Yes boss culture getting prevalent and those who work smart and hard found themselves not a valuable asset anymore.

at least outside you do not need to do all the ridiculous initiatives and HSE audits as part of your KPI which do not bring value cos everyone are required to do so.
Your senior colleague did went out and come back? If if its similar and in Msia, go for it.

If Medical is one thing holding u, so be prepared to buy your own insurance , esp with family and kids.
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Yes, i have decided to leave this company. Looking at the positive side, i will learn new things in the new environment, stepping out from my comfort zone. The only issue is HR has yet to acknowledge my resignation, telling me that they want to talk to me first. Well, hope everything would go smoothly. Thanks for your insight bro.

Nope the senior is a contract staff and he is still with the comp. but he worked at a few companies before joining pet.
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post Oct 19 2013, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(zicco @ Oct 19 2013, 02:23 PM)
Hi all,

A novice here, dont know whether it has been mentioned in this forum, can I ask what is the offshore allowance daily  for a field engineer in petronas. Say with 2-4 years experience ?

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If you're office based, the offshore allowance is standard regardless of your experience. It was rm85/day last year and was revised to rm125/day recently.
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post Oct 20 2013, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(zicco @ Oct 20 2013, 12:36 AM)
thanks for the info, but I thought only offshore engineer are the only ones that entitled for offshore allowance? why does office based staff have offshore allowance?

thanks again
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Those who're based offshore are operation supervisor/maintenance supervisor and offshore installation manager (OIM)..(with operation technicians and contractors) They would be at offshore for 2 weeks and got 2 weeks off. The rest are office based such as operation engineers, maintenance engineers and all disciplines engineers. These engineers would go to offshore as and when required.
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post Oct 20 2013, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(HXZ @ Oct 20 2013, 01:52 AM)
How many days does a Petronas field engineer usually work at offshore?
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It depends on you, your job scope/position and i would say your passion to learn.
You could spend close to 1 month on your single trip offshore or as short as 2 days. If you're an operation engineer, ideally every month you need to go offshore. The rest would depends on their projects or maintenance work.
You do need to balance it though as sometimes a lot of things need to be settled at office, i.e. Follow up with contractors, review sessions, procurement process, getting management's approval on your projects or works.
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post Oct 25 2013, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(khairi90 @ Oct 23 2013, 09:25 PM)
Finally got offer letter today via email

for my PCSB recruitment process PMO
Apply thru HR email & discover petronas: 12 Aug 2013
Phone interview: 28 Aug 2013
Declaration form: 28 Aug 2013
Structured interview: 27 Sep 2013
SI Result : 27 Sept 2013 (they gave the letter for medical checkup on the same day after SI)
Medical checkup: 3 Oct 2013
Offer letter: 23 Oct 2013
Report duty : 18 Nov 2013
PIPE : 2 Dec 2013

Timeline from application --> Offer letter = 2~3 months
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Which department will you be in?
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post Oct 25 2013, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Oct 24 2013, 06:14 PM)
That is rubbish off course. I mean, what did he do to merit a bloody novel for a PPA. Mine was 2 pages tops (then again, maybe that's why I always get a 3 instead of a 2 or 1)
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I honestly thought that they already rank the staff even before the PPA deliberation. whistling.gif


 

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