Hi,

is Honda city facelift 2017 good to buy ?? any problems for this new generation ??? how about the fuel comsumption ?? any resonable reply are most appreciated

This post has been edited by destee88: Apr 11 2017, 01:02 PM

in general, its a very decent car.... the entire range are fairly decent cars for their respective price tags. features are plentiful. dont think theres really much to say about it. Fc is good, the cvt helps you cruise around at very low rpm's. drive it sanely and its frugal

I could say it is the best (all-round) c segment in town so far.

Edited, b-segment

This post has been edited by gacktleong: Apr 25 2017, 06:32 PM

as known save fuel and pick up not bad
overall worth to take ,but don expect too much on the assemble since it were CKD

Just don't buy the top spec with LED headlights. The headlight set cost 4 figure amount to replace.

vs mazda 2, how does it fare

i am taking the chepeast spec ,,, the audio screen and the LED lights are useless to me ...

mind elaborate more , the mazda 2 is better than city ??? instead of outlook and horse power performance ... just let me know which one is more fuel eefficient ??? which one low maintaince cost and which one have bigger boot ???

Outlook = m2
Performance = m2
FC = m2
Maintenance = m2 (free service)
Boot = city

i also want to find out.

i sendiri also want to buy car but really katak bawah tempurung cos never buy car or understand car terms.

City is not C segment car

me too, i never buy own car before , also follow parents opinion , they said this one good then i just follow .. and not actual study the car

do you mean 'pick up' as in kick down Speed? A cvt gear box?

You are one lucky chap! You must cum from a well off family! First car oredi a Honda city!

i keep my savings for years then only decide to buy actually ... my hard earn money

You can't go wrong with the Honda City, it's one of the best all rounder, decent performance and best in class cargo space, rear seating is spacious and comfortable, boot space is largest in class. Fuel consumption is decent enough, though not as good as the Mazda 2 or Peugeot 208. Downside is, since its so practical, its everywhere on the road and personally I don't like the looks of it, its not ugly, but it also looks kinda boring. Handling is not great either.

Mazda 2 is very much a driver's centric car. Extremely fun to drive, good performance and beautiful design, both inside and out. Handling is top notch, only rivaled by the Fiesta, taking corners is an ease. But usually handling and ride comfort is 2 ends of a stick, and passengers will hate the Mazda 2, especially at the back where its very cramp and stiff. Boot space is also one of the worst in the segment, 410 litres vs City's 536. Fuel economy is one of the best in its class due to its high compression ratio of 14:1 vs the City's 10:1.

my SA offered me 3k discount. PM me if you need the SA contact. His location is Semenyih.

Top spec has the best safety features.

becoz our car price is so expensive, so a B segment car has "upgraded" to C segment car.

I think all decent car headlamp cost 4figure.. over 1k - 2k at least.

I think power is almost same, I quite like its design..
it actually depends what you need and your purpose of owning this.
For fuel mazda totally beat city all the way with its skyactive can easily up to 20km/l, while city around 12-15km/l depending how much highway u use or stuck in traffic.

city more to small family sedan and spacious. mazda for sporty look and not so spacious compared city.

The problem with LED headlamps is that they are usually sold in whole set (casing+LED+electronics). Unless one is good at disassembly of half cut parts and some soldering work. Not to forget, you need to have a ODB reader to clear the fault codes if it is not of OEM spec.

For conventional lamp, the 3 main components can usually be bought separately. HIDs aside, normal halogen bulb only have the socket, no electronics.

thanks for sharing ... i am considering S variant actually , cheap yet low cost maintainace as not much eletronics on it ..

S is good enough for most purposes.

This post has been edited by dares: Apr 14 2017, 01:51 PM

That's true. If 1 LED segment is burned out you have to replace the whole headlight which costs thousands. LED headlights is not for cheap cars as their target owners will find it very painful to replace a LED headlight.

Many people fall into the marketing ploy thinking of a B segment car with C segment features. If it is so, then the owner cannot run away from the potential C segment maintenance cost/level despite owning a B segment car.

So think further before purchasing. Like the Mazda3 using HID, i felt a little disappointed that didn't have the full LED headlamp set, but then come to think again, the maintenance of the HID will be a little more flexible as the bulb and the ballast are interchangeable parts, unlike LED which is whole set.

How much for new City rite now?

https://www.honda.com.my/model/specifications/city

Won't LED last a whole lot longer than conventional bulbs? It is also less sensitive to frequent on/off switch damage.

Honda city = Rattling all over the place

Led last more than 5yrs ,that's for sure . U want stylish , LED .most manufacturer go for that .

I've 2 questions ....

1) it's New Honda city 3 variant model all came with pedal shift ?

2) about the handling,, compare New Honda city vs New Proton Persona , which one will feel more responsive at on the road ?

Anyone can explain for it ?

Only the E and V spec have paddle shift.

https://www.honda.com.my/model/major_equipment/city

City vtec 1.5L is way way more responsive and powerful than the 20 years old campro Persona 1.6L

The nvh and refinement of the city is also miles ahead of Persona.

Interior space and spaciousness also has stark difference between the 2.

Go test drive both cars and feel it and you'll know what I mean

I'm asking handling only ... Others don't really interested ...

Learn to read, fanboi.

city is c segment?

New persona better seriously .

CITY IS NOT C SEGMENT WTF

Agree , bro ... That Ah bing only to drive H-City ...
Once I ask how is the handling,, this how he respone ...

Agree ... Have any of u lately tested New Persona ?

I was wonder how old is the joker who mention C segment ?
Budak sekolah ....

u tanya pasal handling, he klua sume enjin response, NVH, interior space......mentioned everything EXCEPT handling

Is that honda city, which comes with cvt do cost higher for major services especially when required that cvt oil and cvt filter change?

Similar to rest of cvt equipped car.

Stock to stock, the 'New' Persona beats the City by a large margin when it comes to handling. If you really want a good drive from the Persona, i'd suggest getting the Manual variant at 46k, then mod the hell out of it. Add GAB suspension 2k, front strut bar and ARB around 700, 2k for touch screen head unit+reverse camera, change to 16x7j tires/rims 2k, direct power harness 600, conlanfirm it will handle way better than the City, and it'll still be cheaper than the Premium Persona. Another thing about getting the Manual variant is that its lighter than the Premium version

apetu direct power harness?

A power cable connected directly from the battery to the ignition points, reduces misfiring and increasing spark plug firing power
http://tmworks-web.jp/products/dph_eng.htm

It's plug and play, so if want to send car warranty can easily remove.

Proven performance gain ke bro?

I have it on my Mazda 2 plus ignition amplifier. It helps smoothen the revving, there is less torque dip. It doesn't necessarily add more horsepower, but it does give a more refined power delivery.

No. Honda CVT fluid is even cheaper than proton iriz .I only paid RM130 for CVT fluid on every 40k km service.

I'm wondering... why the sellers selling these kind of products never have a dyno graph to show? Each dyno only cost around rm300. I am sure they can afford it to give more confidence to buyers.

The best practices is if it work, manufacturers will put it in their car as standard.

Actually there is dyno done, might be a little exaggerated
https://www.facebook.com/tmworksracing/phot...?type=3&theater

As for why manufacturers don't just do this in stock, I've asked this question before, simple answer is cost cutting. Take the 1.5 Mazda 2 vs the 1.5 Mazda MX-5. Its exactly the same engine but the MX-5 has 129hp vs the Mazda 2's 114hp. Different is in tuning and intake+exhaust, hence why the MX-5 costs alot more.

Honda City is a C segment car?

B-segment actually .. but ppl said it has C segment look

Do anyone know the price of the accesories add on out there? Upgrade with modulo package need 2.9k sounds not worth. What is the skirting really use for?

im a fan of proton rnh but dont over hyped lah bro. have u see stock jazz gk timing only with a semi slick and progressive spring installed around sepang? 2.57 sec bro. slow for a lot of car but actually is fast for a jazz and b segment hatch. city is build using jazz platform and almost similar kerb weight sumore.

the thing with persona compares to city and jazz is kerb weight. the lisa engine is quite perky actually .

This post has been edited by THE CLASS OF 13: May 1 2017, 11:51 PM

Mind you skirting are not accessory that gives you bat mobile ability.... It's just for the looks.. No functional use

Remember that punch cvt is not really suitable for medium mod.

There r a lot of warranty claim for punch cvt especially preve

one of the most seen car on the road nowdays, wont buy wrong one

Hi guys! I want to ask for recommend, there is an option for me to choose either 2years/40,000km free service or rm1000 cash rebate. I calculate my usage of old car is about 2223km per month, so is about 18month will reach 40k. Should i take which option?

take rebate .. u RM1000 only ??? honda giving at least RM3000 rebate now for honda city .. some more u can ask for discount from SA

Its an option to take 2years free service or change to cash rebate worth rm1000, ofcourse the 3k discount is still there 3+1

How much would it cost for each service? When do I need to do major service? Anyone have an idea of service fees?

I just bought mine. I opt for the free service and Labour because those cost are subjected to inflation. And if touch wood any major part spoil, pretty sure the cost of part itself will make it way more worth it when compared to RM1k haha...

Though keep in mind they would have done their market research so the offering will be comparable

Is free service, not free part if any of your major part spoil~ Even major part spoil and you are still under warranty then you don't need to pay anything.

honda malaysia website, u can find the cost for each service for their cars.

warranty does not cover wear and tear components, everywhere is the same.

Honda jazz facelift coming out on thursday.

I would choose jazz FL over city anytime

Got new Jazz meh?..

no yet... need to wait sometime

I plan to buy the Jazz but the cvt gearbox is a concern to me bcos previously there're issues with the gearbox...A little worry about this..

Any jazz gk owners here?..

This post has been edited by Ruwen: May 13 2017, 10:55 AM

nowadays most new model are come with CVT .... there is not much worry as CVT has been implement quite some time edy ... it should be improved and less problem ..

This post has been edited by destee88: May 13 2017, 10:52 AM

Almost all (6 out of 8) models from Honda are using CVT... if it is really problematic, I think many people would be complaining now.

Yeah dats what i thought too...Recently during yumcha session with my buddies, a fren of mine said the cvt gearbox on previous honda city are problematic especially those above 100k mileage, few of his frens driving honda city shared their problems with him.

proton owner with cvt not worry,their car is more problematic than us ..lol

Old generation honda's cvt having fatal problem................but Honda has change new cvt since long time ago, current cvt no more problem

New Honda Jazz opening for pre-order

Got pricing already?

why not vios?
toyota got better after sales than honda imho

Price not yet release

New Vios having bad fuel consumption if compare to city

Really? I tot newer engine comes with good fc

mind to share why?
just because prefer hatchback version? better looking?

Honda City ok la...
A safe choice, other than facelift in design and paddle shift?, any changes to other things like suspension and so on? which i doubt so.

As many had commented, a good all rounder for its price.
Reasonable NVH for its class, improved ride comfort to acceptable level especially for rear passengers compared to 2009 model.

Though some rattling issues and wind noise at high speed.

Already in most showrooms and booking ready.

For the hybrid need to wait for a few months i think. That is what i am told

Magic seats..... You will understand if you are on site with the car. You can fit things that city cannot. Fit a size L road bike. City can also fit but it will take all your 2nd/boot space because it can only be lie down..

The looks

and it is mostly base on personal preference. I like city too but i prefer the jazz over it

Who cares about paddle shift lol.. No one uses it especially on normal cars.. I dont even use it on my companies new civic car. Sports car is different.

Rattling and wind noise even exist in 200k cars ( my sister's 330e ) . If it is noticeable and able to discover by soundproofing staffs. Then it will be easy otherwise

This post has been edited by Eternalgl0ry: May 21 2017, 02:22 AM

Got my new facelift city two months ago, wondering any new driver same as me by having a car problem with a weird sound while car engine start and drive up to speed by reaching first 40km/h. It happened to me about one month after get the car, at the same time when i send my car for first 1000km service, i got informed the service person on the incident. But i've been told by the service incharge person, this is actually the car electronic generater sound, and it just normal and even happened for all their other honda city car. I was like, wth..am i looks like a girl that so easy for cheat?! I could say, obviously the sound are abnormal, initially i thought the sound was came from aircond compressor, who knows i tried switch off my aircond for testing, it still the same. And It only happened on the every FIRST reach of 40km/h, when u start up ur engine!!

This post has been edited by cammy1286: May 31 2017, 10:35 PM

Check the H. City thread in Car Clubs. What the service person said is true indeed LOL

If you are looking for a B Segment car, City is the best choice in terms of many aspect includes safety, performance, design, and maintenance

Hi Guys,
Engine of Jazz is it same as City ? which one is more fuel economic ?

Thanks

yes is ,, they said hybrid version is more fuel economic

choose hybrid, honda has move from system to the sport hybrid i-DCD (Intelligent Dual-Clutch Drive) system, which is more advanced, powerful and efficient.

Thanks destee88 and tergezut for answering !

Do you guys know how is the fuel consumption of Jazz and City ?

Can't afford for new Hybrid car ...looking for used car actually

Tested both Proton Persona & Honda City over the weekend. Both are HUGE disappointments in my opinion. However, the more worthy buy will be the Proton Persona. Just my 2 cents.

#jgnkecamsaya

if not mind petrol oil sucker on new persona then is fine ...

You mean the new Persona sucks petrol like mad?

Mostly city driving not good, 11km/l usually but I've seen lower.

potong are well known for their petrol oil sucker. Especially their funny turbo engines from exora , SS and preve

The service fees for them are also not cheap.

dont buy used hybrid cars. Warranty battery void will make you pay until you cry

its only max 4 k for battery change.