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 Sunway Pyramid Digital Centre CS 1.6 Tournament, 29th of March till the 1st of April 2007

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post Mar 30 2007, 12:37 AM

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post Mar 31 2007, 12:30 AM

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Sunway Pyramid Digital Centre CS 1.6 Tournament
Results for Friday, 30/03/07

Losers' Brackets Round 1 - de_inferno
Bwar3 > KOG // 7 - 8 / 9 - 5 | Final Score: 16 - 13

Exff > Var|ous // 12 - 3 // 4 - 2 | Final Score: 16 - 5

Dei Cha Vu > God Father // Walkover Awarded to Dei Cha Vu.

Team Ash > Kilogram // 14 - 1 / 2 - 3 | Final Score: 16 - 4

Winners' Brackets Quarter Finals - de_train
PwyH < fTP // 5 - 10 / 10 - 5 // OT1: 0 - 3 / 3 - 0 // OT2: 1 - 2 / 2 - 1 // OT3: 1 - 2 / 1 - 2 | Final Score: 23 - 25

BIO < DiV // 2 - 13 / 0 - 3 | Final Score 2 - 16

Vr| < Logic5 // 6 - 9 / 1 - 7 | Final Score: 7 - 16

MKVL < Hybrid // 0 - 15 / 1 - 1 | Final Score: 1 - 16

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zirconium
post Mar 31 2007, 01:40 AM

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post Apr 1 2007, 09:30 PM

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any updates on this tourney ?
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post Apr 2 2007, 01:32 AM

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Any updates?
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post Apr 2 2007, 01:44 PM

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Auricom
post Apr 3 2007, 05:54 AM

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Sunway Pyramid Digital Centre CS 1.6 Tournament
Results for Saturday, 31/03/07

Losers' Bracket Round 2 - de_nuke
Bwar3 < MKVL // 1 - 14 / 0 - 2 | Final Score: 1 - 16

Exff > Vr| // Walkover Awarded to Exff

Dei Cha Vu < BIO // 1 - 14 / 1 - 2 | Final Score 2 - 16

Team Ash < PwyH // 5 - 10 / 0 - 6 | Final Score: 5 - 16

Losers' Bracket Round 3 - de_train
MKVL > Exff // 11 - 4 / 5 - 0 | Final Score: 16 - 4

BIO < PwyH // 7 - 8 / 1 - 8 | Final Score 8 - 16

Winners' Bracket Semi-Finals - de_nuke

fTP < DiV // 4 - 11 / 0 - 5 | Final Score: 4 - 16

Logic5 < Hybrid // 1 - 14 / 10 - 2 | Final Score: 11 - 16

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Results for Sunday, 01/04/07

Losers' Bracket Quarter Finals - de_dust2
MKVL < fTP // 6 - 9 / 1 - 7 | Final Score: 7 - 16

PwyH > Logic5 // 9 - 6 / 7 - 2 | Final Score: 16 - 8

Losers' Bracket Semi Finals - de_inferno
fTP > PwyH // 9 - 6 / 7 - 3 | Final Score: 16 - 9

Winners' Bracket Finals - de_inferno
DiV < Hybrid // 5 - 10 / 3 - 6 | Final Score: 8 - 16

Losers' Bracket Finals - de_train
fTP > DiV // 9 - 6 / 6 - 9 // OT1: 0 - 3 / 3 - 0 // OT2: 2 - 1 / 1 - 2 // OT3: 0 - 3 / 3 - 0 // OT4: 2 - 1 / 1 - 2 // OT5: 2 - 1 / 1 - 2 // OT6: 1 - 2 / 1 - 2 | Final Score: 32 - 34

Clarification for OT6:
DiV was disputed for a Flashbang bug violation in the 1st Half of OT6. Upon review of the demo at the end of the half, there was indeed an occurrence of the FB bug at the Triple crate exit/entrance on "Alley". Standard rules and procedure for a FB bug violation is to award 3 rounds to the affected team, regardless if the FB bug violation was unintentional or otherwise. As OT was still running, awarding 3 rounds to fTP would mean that they win, as the 1st Half score was 2 - 1 in their favor.

My advice to both teams was to play out the 2nd Half of OT6 and hopefully a winner could be decided. fTP, after a short discussion among themselves decided that they would still stand by their dispute and requested that I follow standard R&R, as this was the 2nd FB bug violation. (**Note: There was an earlier suspected occurrence of the FB bug at the same location, during OT5, but it was highly questionable as only a single fTP player was fully flashed. 2 other fTP players were also flashed, but it was not a complete "white-out", plus they could not confirm if they heard the FB(s) going off. **)

Taking that into consideration, I was left with the following options:
#1. Award the default 3 rounds for the FB violation to fTP, thus DiV outright loses.

#2. Declare the 1st Half of OT6 null and void, award the default 3 rounds for the FB violation to fTP and play out the 2nd Half of OT6, thus fTP would only need to win a single round in the 2nd Half of OT6 to win. This would mean that DiV would have to win all 3 rounds in the 2nd Half of OT6, to force the game into OT7. (I felt that this option was still unfair to DiV as they would be starting out the 2nd Half as Terrorists and would be greatly disadvantaged, trying to pull 3 rounds off fTP.)

#3. Declare the 1st Half of OT6 null and void. Entire OT6 will be replayed again, but with 2 rounds awarded to fTP and that their victory condition would be: out of the 6 rounds to be played in OT6, as long as they pull 2 rounds off DiV, they win the match. DiV would still have to win 5 rounds to force the game into OT7, but this option was marginally better than #2 as the fate of the match would not be decided on a single round.

I ultimately decided on option #3 and specifically mentioned to Jab before the start of OT6 again, that even if the score was (1 - 2 / 2 - 1) in their favor, fTP still wins as they took 2 rounds off you. This was my concession to fTP to get them to agree to replaying OT6 and the lifeline to DiV. Better this than to outright lose. Both teams then agreed to the conditions and played out the match. At that point, I cannot confirm if DiV 100% understood the conditions for OT6, but neither did they at any point before the start of OT6 ask for further clarification.

Grand Finals - de_dust2
Hybrid > fTP // 9 - 6 / 7 - 8 | Final Score: 16 - 14

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Sunway Pyramid Digital Centre CS 1.6 Tournament
Final Placings:
1st - Hybrid
2nd - fTP
3rd - DiV
4th - PwyH
5th/6th - MKVL & Logic5
7th.8th - BIO & Exff

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Break me a farking give people. I R farking tired after 6 days of running this event ok. T_T"

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post Apr 3 2007, 08:35 AM

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post Apr 4 2007, 03:03 PM

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Demos have been uploaded
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chiam_ace
post Apr 4 2007, 06:29 PM

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70% of the photos is PWYH vs FTP

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post Apr 5 2007, 01:18 AM

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hey, i was wondering that dispute of flashbug. no matter whats the reason about was suppose to be only deduct the rounds from the buggas which they did a flashbug round only, thats all. easily settle. For example, OT6 was 2-1 regarding DiV to fTP was suppose to give away the round they won, as a result DiV gets 1 and 2 for Ftp in 1st half. Eventually they are able to settle their score in the 2nd half. however whats done its done. Just L2P next event. L2P = learn 2 play. hope this clear out all the confusion between the gamers and marshals out there. peace out.

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post Apr 5 2007, 01:55 AM

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actually i thought it's forfeiting the remaining rounds in that half (including the round when the flashbug occurred) for example if the score was 4-3, after the bug it'll automatically be 12-3. I've seen it happen during events like WEG, CPL, etc.. but maybe the rules have changed since then.

what do i know..

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post Apr 5 2007, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(chiam_ace @ Apr 4 2007, 06:29 PM)
70% of the photos is PWYH vs FTP

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post Apr 5 2007, 10:45 AM

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warafak la zirconium. anyway GG.. i got no idea about the FTP vs DiV
anyway experience it :\ sad to say this and im so EMO on that day because of this.. hahaha
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post Apr 5 2007, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(jetz @ Apr 5 2007, 01:18 AM)
hey, i was wondering  that dispute of flashbug. no matter whats the reason about was suppose to be only deduct the rounds from the buggas which they did a flashbug round only, thats all. easily settle. For example, OT6 was 2-1 regarding DiV to fTP was suppose to give away the round they won, as a result DiV gets 1 and 2 for Ftp in 1st half. Eventually they are able to settle their score in the 2nd half. however whats done its done. Just L2P next event. L2P = learn 2 play. hope this clear out all the confusion between the gamers and marshals out there. peace out.

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So I'll be expecting you to be a referee the next time we have a major tourney, since you have such vast experience in dealing with disputes ? Talk is cheap, we can all spin this incident six ways to sunday and till the cows come home and we'll still be talking about it.

DiV claimed ignorance to such a thing as a flashbang bug, and I was willing to give them a benefit of a doubt that it was purely unintentional. I did tell fTP to forget about it and continue on with the 2nd Half of OT6, instead of filing for a dispute. While reviewing the demo, it did show that Bobo had aimed both his FBs into the crates. But the fact that it happened twice (although the 1st time during OT5 was highly questionable), in the same area would be suggesting something no ?

The OT6 Half that was declared null and void was 2 - 1 in fTP's favor. So if following your suggestion, giving a round to fTP would mean that the score would be 3 - 0 to fTP. That still comes down to DiV having to pull off 3 rounds in de_train as Terrorists to force the game into OT7, no ? And fTP would only have to win a single round to win. So we're back to square one again.

The only confusion I saw was the fact that Jab didnt explain properly the terms and conditions of the new OT to his team. I do not believe that he didnt understood what I said as I spelled out the terms to both the team leaders. If Jake perfectly understood, how come Jab didnt ? And if he didnt understand, why didnt he run it by me again ?

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post Apr 5 2007, 07:56 PM

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well. thanks for the invitation but no thanks being a marshal for any tourney. i just wanna share my knowledge with u guys having the hardwork on tourneys. Back to the topic, the null and void is not neccessary needed. the 1st half OT6 which one of the round that has flashbugged. Just deduct that round tat they won. But the flashbugged round, if the victims as u say Ftp, if they are still to win that round even if Div did a flashbug, its consider as nothing, therefore warning is given. But if Ftp is to lose that round due to flashbug, that round consider as Div exchange 1 win round to Ftp. It's the same OT6, and in the 2nd half they can just settle the score. As i said, for example, 1st half 2-1 div to ftp, means score change in 1sthalf 1-2 div to ftp. thats it. so try to fix it in the next event.

By giving 2 rounds to ftp and out of 6 they just need another 2 rounds to pull it off. so whats div condition? fight for draw within 6 rounds? of course they will think its really unfair and nuisance to them. Or do they need 6-0 to win the game perfectly.
I do understand ur generousity and consideration for both teams. However, according to the most common basic rules its only to deduct the win rounds from those flashbug players only, but not giving 2 or more free wins to the victims. Hope u understand what i am trying to explain here. This will be my last post to explain it again. biggrin.gif

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