With echo Brain now.,..

Wes Borland is damn Cool.. even with the bizKit stuff!

Very riff Base.
Now on to final questions. Will perform more after that.

Pics coming up ..

damn dah lepas ke? when was it?

bizkit!!!woohoo respect!but i hate fred..aha

i was there! saw echo and blacktrix.

Sudah balik!

Clinic was surprising lah. At least from the get go, he said he wasn't a "soloist" and more of a "group player"...... but the stuff he did with the loop pedal was damn cool......
Alot more... what's the word..... Industrial Instrumental.....

But it was AFTER the clinic that have alot to talk about.

They had to shuffle us ALL THE WAY back to their Curve store..... NOT FUN if you're carrying a coffin case... and when you get to the signing.... "Can Only sign the provided Autograph card or a Yamaha guitar"..... WTF!!!???!!!

For those keeping score..... Yamaha BeatSpot Bad Marks = 2 (The first was for the over pricing)

Then once the event ended, and waited for Wes to clear before can go test out the amps.... their 3 MAIN DISPLAY AMPS all NOT WORKING!!!! Not even plugged in!

BeatSpot Bad Marks = 3

At LEAST one of the worker there was good enough to try to setup the amps. Turns out....... couldn't...... sigh. And NO tube amps in sight.....

However!!!!!!

There WAS a Gibson Les Paul SUPREME on display..... and guess what.....
Me and Echo tried it out! No Hassle!!!!

Will report more on the sound later.
Right now.... I'm hungry and I want to eat!

im hungry and want to eat too..

oh ya...

let me say it before blacktrix does

WES BORLAND PLAYED JAZZ!!!

wooo...

be afraid u guys.

....... and the Gibson Les Paul Supreme just plain, flat out SUCKED!!!!

Seriously.... It was just.... as echobrain put it.... Epiphone Quality.
The built was alright.... but the humbuckers....... urgh.
Don't think they were Burstbuckers.....

And it was DAMN light! Even my ZW Epi was heavier! And it was also only SLIGHTLY heavier then an Epi Custom LP......

Overall..... Very disappointed.

Oh..... and there were alot of Epi LP Standards...... however, all MIC.
The only MIK I saw was the Zakk Wylde epi Camo Bullseye.... Yup. They have it.

you know why the LP supreme is light?
cos apparently it uses the wood higher up on the tree, which i guess is older.
the wood on the bottom is heavier cos its being compressed by the weight.

and supremes dont use burstbuckers, just regular 490/498 pickups.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Mar 11 2007, 10:13 PM

If I'm not mistaken, I read somewhere that Beatspot is supposed to be some kind of a concept store where it's catered for players who want to test out gears before purchasing. Apparently, all their amps are ready-to-be-tested & guitars are hung at your disposal. Oh well, they're still new I guess.

Nice hairstyle btw, echo.

iianm gibby lespaul supremes have a chambered body
hence lighter?

actually all gibsons have weight relief holes, up to 9.
the standards, customs all.

But still..... not impressed with the sound.
I'd rather go for a Standard.

well yeah
and a standard costs less than a supreme right?

seriously guys, even if they sold it for RM8000, i would think twice about buying it. i told blacktrix its epiphone quality, no way would pay RM8k and above for it. just not worth it. only thing worth it is the looks i guess. soundwise, feel, etc, just not Gibson at all...not even Gibson Standard level.

edit: on my hair, thanks. haha. its not a new hairstyle. just didnt cut it over a month. $$$ all go to wes borland clinic, muse concert, etc

This post has been edited by echobrainproject: Mar 11 2007, 11:04 PM

how much were they selling that supreme?

They CLAIMED it was at RM8000...... but if you do a quick search at musician's friend, it retails for 2900USD Already!!!!

RM8k? i bet its a MIC 'special' thats been grossly marked up
that could explain its 'epiphone' quality.

yea, musiciansfriend has the LP supreme selling at USD2899.
with current rate, its easily RM10k.
list is USD4238.

i've seen 'special' LP supremes on ebay before.
looked pretty real, the serial number gives it away everytime.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Mar 11 2007, 11:29 PM

he.he..Gibson LP supreme ..has always been my "wish i could have that" guitar..

i am definitely going to the curve to rape it ..

If its original , and its 8k before discount..i will buy it on the spot .

Anyway , care to explain in detail why does it suck ? just because of the pickups ?

i am planning to PIMP MY GUITAR EMG it anyway ..

But anyway, back to the clinic......

Wes new favorite toy is the Boss Looping pedal. I must admit.... he DOES use it to great effect.

And no, he's not a soloist by any means..... but he is a damn good riffer. Alot of cool riffs he came up with and uses ALOT of effects...... most dominantly his delay and echo pedals.

And his Signature Guitar?
Definite GAS for me! It's a REALLY cool take on the semi-hollow body guitar..... all the size of a Les Paul, but without the weight. AND it has a cool whammy trem.

Also, he made quite a few mistakes during the performance and had to stop and just restart everything, including his backing band......

FYI... his Backing Band was an iPod.......

EDIT: And dude..... seriously.... for 8K..... go get an LP standard instead of THAT Supreme. Heck... get 2 Epi Les Paul Customs..... me and echo both agreed that the Supreme only sounds SLIGHTLY better then the Epi Custom..... and those were MIC Customs!
It's the overall sound of the guitar. You'll know what we mean as soon as you pickup the guitar and play it. There's no other way to describe it.

This post has been edited by blacktrix: Mar 12 2007, 12:12 AM

its not that beautifully constructed as i expected it to be. of course, it looks good from far. on the price, the guy wasnt sure so he told me prob around 8k. he asked me to call back on wednesday and by then theyll confirm the price (wth?). it says made in US at the back, but looking at the way they printed the serial number, maybe everdying is right. its too good for a MIC crap copy, but no where near a gibson standard.

lol..i am more of a person who believes in finger tone more than the guitar itself that produce good tone..as long as its a decent wood

how many players we know that owns a ESP , Ibanez Prestige , Gibson , PRS and still sounded like crap..

i already own 2 epiphones , i think i have enough of epis

oh..so 8k is not confirm yet lar ? ..
chiew..

I like to go for the glamour...."what guitar you using?"
"hmm..nah..cheap stuff..just a Gibson LP supreme "



anyway , more specific can? how bad is the construction ? you mean by ..even changing the pickups and a good setup..still wouldn't help it ?

last time when i went to bentley to try out the PGM300..it was like sh!t..
after my friend got it , the guitar went to tham and it plays like a dream

gapnap, dont lie la...
i know you wouldnt be caught dead with a GIM guitar.

hmm maybe i'll make a trip to the curve as well

seems like everyone is going to see that supreme
lol

if only i had kept the pics of that fake LP supreme i saw on ebay.
everything looked so real, 2 screw truss rod cover, nice gibson inlays on headstock etc.
just the way the serial number was stamped on the back, and the actual numbers itself didnt make sense.

hahaha..thats true..fvck GIM ..

i want branded stuffs lar ..GIM abit ***** lar..

hoho..materialistic guitar style

who doesnt ? XD

btw, gapnap.

theres a LP standard for SGD2200 and a LP classic for SGD2100 right now on orangeguitar.com.
im contemplating now

omg
lol
im still saving for that orville or epiphone japan custom

have to help my mom sell that furniture then i can get it XD

does orville/epi japan customs follow the gibby neck profiles or they have the slimmer necks?
or im just gonna have to go down there to find out
lol


This post has been edited by sean392: Mar 12 2007, 12:57 AM

my 'orville by gibson' '61 RI has a similar neck to the gibson.
not too sure on the LPs.

ok, time to bring this over to the spam thread.
poor wes borland will never sell any of his yamaha if this goes on

btw, wes borland did say he was gonna concentrate more on songwriting than any technical stuff for his clinic.
guess he knows his strengths etc, too bad im not a fan of his songwriting either.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Mar 12 2007, 01:05 AM

AFAIK, the epi japan Fujigen follows the 60s neck profile, mine does any way. Not too sure about the Yamano ones tho

yeah . its fvcking good buy !

you deal with them before ? how do i make the payment and such ? any tip ?

oh yeah..

besides SOFT and orange guitars . any other Singapore / Thailand sites i can get used gear ?

i emailed ishibashi like 20 times . totally gave up on them . so fast yea the nice deal are taken away

last post here, move it to the spam thread.
ie. guitar phreaks.

the other SG site is luthermusic.com.
thai sites i dont bother, not as if i can read thai in the first place.

Thanks everdying.....

Anyway. back to Wes (and any more things OTHER then the Wes clinic shall be moved..... I might close down this thread too).....

I can't believe how many "kids" in the audience was just there to hear him play Limp Bizkit stuff..... And when you hear the guy in the audience ask "Why did you leave Limp Bizkit"..... me and Echobrain just went "awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww............"
Could hear the hold audience then follow.....

blacktrix, clean up this thread then we can discuss about the 'advice' given by wes and also post up pics and vids. your friend did take quite a few vids of the clinic with his camera. maybe u could ask it from him and share them shere.

i was too


i got his last performance taken with camera phone wan me post on youtube?

sure. post it on youtube.
im still waiting for pics from blacktrix

i got 1, first one which he screwed up and the proper one xD
but its erm rotated CCW90°

tak apa. just post. i'll post what i ahve soon.

ok i'll upload it later just came back from undang test now time to sambung tidur~

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Added on March 17, 2007, 3:52 pmok finally got to upload it after hours of trying


all videos not rotated, so go rotate your head

This post has been edited by SweetTooth: Mar 17 2007, 05:24 PM

Good one guys.

cannot see anything...

I think he got the Youtube Tags wrong.....

woops sorry lemme edit
All done

This post has been edited by SweetTooth: Mar 17 2007, 05:25 PM