UPDATE: WE NEED HELP TO CORROBORATE THE PERPERTRATOR'S STORY:


Update:
The family found out that the opposing party made a police report. In the police report, he stated that my cousin in his kapcai RAMMED INTO him.
WE NEED witnesses. Please tell US if you've witnessed the accident. IT was BUSY road. A busy area. SOMEBODY must have seen something.

IF its true that my cousin rammed into him, we'll accept it.
BUT IF HE WAS KNOCKED DOWN, and not the one ramming, then we NEED TO KNOW. Because we WANT TO PURSUE JUSTICE.


Update: I've also updated relevant information as of below







Two Sundays ago during Cheng Meng, a hit and run happened to my cousin. If you've heard anything, or know anything, PLEASE talk to me.
My nieces lost their father.

TL;DR:
He rode on a kapchai and got knocked down.
Time: 4pm, (edited from noon)
Date: 26th March, 2017 (Cheng Meng period)
Location: Bakar Arang, Sg Petani. (the ONE AND ONLY U-TURN IN BAKAR ARANG ,SG. PETANI NEAR PETRONAS) *UPDATED*


I cannot promise you any reward.
But, please.
There must be a closure.
WE'VE FOUND THE PERPETRATOR. NOW WE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH OF THE SITUATION.


the long story edition:

My cousin rode a kapcai (with helmet and all).
He got knocked down, and probably had a bad fall. It was HIT AND RUN.
The other party who knocked him sped off. The other party never bothered to even check on my cousin. The other party left him for dead just like that. (THIS IS STILL TRUE). HE MADE A POLICE REPORT, BUT the family does not TRUST that report. IT was entirely one sided in the opposing party's favour. HE NEVER BOTHERED TO EVEN MEET to apologize. He did absolutely NOTHING.

WHERE IT HAPPENED:
At a dual-lane carriageway that has a U-TURN in Bakar Arang, Sg. Petani, nearby Petronas.

SPECULATION:
These speculation were based on orally transmitted bits of information about the opposing party's police report (since the family can't get the opposing party's police report, apparently)

1. Car switched lane from right to left. Because according to the police report he did so because the right lane was congested with cars that wanted to U-turn.
2. Somehow someway my cousin was knocked down. THe opposing party reported that my cousin rammed his kapcai into his car.
3. after the kapcai rammed into his car, the driver fled to a police station to report it that he got banged by a kapcai.

WHAT WE KNOW:
1. The man who called an ambulance saw a car speeding off. He saw bits of the car number, (but as of typing the funeral is going on, so I can't get the car number just yet, and i don't even know if there's anything WORTH doing to the car number)
2. The man who dialed the ambulance saw a dark skinned man, that looked Indian.
3. When family found out about the opposing party's police report, it was a Muslim name.
4. Family could only report that an accident has happened.
5. Despite having an accident, the victim was in pain, and assisted by some passerbys. He never got to mention how he was involved. It just happened to him.


ON OUR SIDE:
1. No witnesses, but found car number. But no actualy witnesses to the accident.
2. There were passerbys that helped him. Some called the ambulance. Ambulance was reportedly supposed to arrive in 15 minutes time (from GH?)
2a) Somebody recognized my cousin and contacted his worker. His worker rushed to accident site to assist my cousin.
2b) He complained of chest pain. Ambulance never arrived despite after 15-20 minutes, daughter arrived, and made decision to quickly drive to the nearest hospital. Jam, etc. (Probably this made things worse, I don't know). They tried to send him to Metro, then due to traffic went to Pantai. Pantai took a scan on him, (at this point he slipped into coma) and told the worker and daughter that he was dying. Pantai told the family to send him over to GH.
Some took pics of him (typical modern society) and passed around. Eventually the family found out. He was conscious when the LAST KNOWN picture of him was shown (which I'll never post here). He was last photographed assisted into a sitting postion on the asphalt floor. (Probably something that shouldn't be done)

Then he slipped into a coma.
He passed away today, (5th April, 2017), at 1.45pm.

Right side of the skull fractured.
Brain compressed.
Blood clot in the head.

7 vertebrae bones from the neck down cracked.
Right hip bone fractured.

He never got the chance to say goodbye to his family.
He never got the chance to say anything to his family.

We knew people helped / assisted him.
We knew there were no witnesses to the accident.
We knew it was a hit and run, because there were traces.

Police NOW KEPT THE CASE OPEN *EDITED FROM CLOSE CASE* due to death of a party involved.

I beg of you.

I'm clutching at straws. His family are clutching at straws.

Despite what my religion teaches me, and what Buddhism teaches their family (the family is bereaved, but they accepted the death), I cannot but to scream in anguish that my cousin is a victim to a hit and run while the killer walks away shirking responsibilities. I can accept that he's gone (because I have to). But I cannot accept the injustice.

Please, help me.

You can PM my inbox, if there are leads. I beg of you.

Please. Some people tell me its crazy to ask /k, but here I am, because i've exhausted all methods that I know. People to call, clues to note, etc. I'm at wits' end.

If you know anything, please. *EDITED*

(It wasn't a robbery, his personal items were still with him, AFAIK).


Any advices, please tell me.

This post has been edited by hyperyouth_firepower: Apr 8 2017, 09:33 AM

Mod, please kindly help to pin

sorry to hear tht TS...

Mod..please pin this...

I'm so sorry for your loss. Sorry I can't help you, but I sincerely hope someone here can.

Got viral at fb?

Anyways, RIP ts cousin.

Don't think it will be that easy to find the perpetrator since there might not be any witness.

sorry to hear about your cousin but without witnesses i don't think there's anything more than we can do.

I've wrote something similar in my FB. But via a recommendation (not via fb), I've also posted here, as asked to.

Sorry to hear about this.

In SG, when something like this happens, the traffic police would put up a big sign at the accident spot with the time and date, asking if anyone saw the accident to please contact them.

It helps, sometimes.

Any CCTV around the place that accident took place?

at least some details on location / time and all would help. if now how are we going to help ?

I believe chasing down this path will not lead to closure. YOU need to let it go, no evidence of the accident how to find culprit, even if u found the culprit u can't do anything which in turn will lead to further discontent in ur heart.

Follow the buddha teaching, please don't choose the vengeful path but instead learn to forgive. The karma cycle goes on for you and the culprit and i truly believe the culprit will have what's coming to them in this life or other. Each time i see someone with disabled child i really believe someone in the family must have done some fuck up stuff that warrant such karma to hit them.

apparently no.
post updated on the TLDR side. My apologies for not making certain things clear.

I'm not a Buddhist, but the bereaved family are.
I do believe in Karma.

But I also am believer of "active" action, rather than to be passive.
Its true that it'll hurt more. But this is one pain that i'm willing to bear. Because as ridiculous as it sounds, its something I want to know. I want to find out. I want to seek justice.

Do you have a Google Maps of where the incident happened? Edit: Saw the date/time. My mistake.

This post has been edited by pikachu01: Apr 5 2017, 04:22 PM

By pursuing the truth u are making things awkward for the family who are readied to let it go. You may be ready for the pain but not ppl around you. Pursuing the truth is not for u to decide alone

unfortunately, no. i can't even pinpoint it. But i'll try (because i don't want to give any bad info).

and you know the family are ready to let it go?

Sorry bout your lost

Hope you find the perpetrator

TS just said it, u might want to read first post again

accepting the death is one thing

pursuing the perp is another

Condolence to your cousin and family TS

This post has been edited by andrewcha: Apr 5 2017, 05:25 PM

No vehicle parts left in the scene? Maybe pieces of headlamp?

I agree...someone just try to put his word into other ppl mouth...
Y start to object when ppl try to do somethg....

TS, I am truly sorry for what happened to your relative. RIP, and hope with the support of close frens and family members, the immediate family will find closure one day.

I hope that u will get the justice that u hope for one day, that the one who knocked down your cousin will be arrested. God bless u and the cousin's family.

This post has been edited by 4everlove: Apr 5 2017, 06:35 PM

Please tell that to my nieces. They're underaged. And all they can say is "my dad got hit and run, and I don't know who did it."

What to add more? Karma? God's will?

At the very least, what I'm trying to do, despite grasping at straws, is to search for a possible answer.

An answer to WHO did it.
An answer to WHY the other party did it, and never bothered to help.
An answer to WHAT actually happened.


An answer to learn.

I don't want to face my nieces and tell them "your dad used a bike. He abided by the rules. He wore a helmet, a certified helmet. Yet he died to an outlaw".


add on:

and i don't want to tell them "its over, its done, move on".

I want to tell them "even the slightest hope there is, we'll do it. It may never be revealed, but at least we did all we can".

Because I can't afford to say those words you quoted. Because I for as hell can't.

My religion teaches me "death is a messenger of joy".

Never in it does it tell me "to turn a blind eye to injustice".

This post has been edited by hyperyouth_firepower: Apr 5 2017, 06:21 PM

You sure it was hit and run? You studied the bike?

The family didn't paid too much attention. They were only trying to get him to the hospital when they found out. That is another story, but its difficult to keep calm when your loved ones are hurt.

All I know is that the front end of the bike is totalled. Bent rim (which suggests the impact has to be very strong), and crashed front.

OP,ask this in Penduduk Sg Petani Facebook page. Yiu have better luck there. Bakar Arang is like 5 minutes from my home. RIP.

how can Police Close the Case just because no Witness?

Could try checking nearby car workshop to see if got suspicious accident vehicle. Any things worth a try......

Could you guide me there? PM is fine. I'm not sure if I go the correct FB page

I no want rempit liao

So sorry and deepest condolence
I am not in Malaysia and I can't help much on the witness part
But i can offer a small donation to your uncle family just pm me

Thank you for the gesture, but I will have to decline on their behalf. The thought matters.

I'm only exhausting every methods available to see if I can find any trails or leads.

nothing i can help except replying something just so this thread stays up.

condolences to u n affected families.
like all malays will say
'semoga dipermudahkan'

sorry to hear
btw accident people dont just simply help them to sit.
ask them to lie down where its safe just by dragging them aside while waiting for ambulance. told them dont move, the risk of fracturing and damaging the spine and the fracture anywhere include skull is more if they move without splint and cervical collar

I will do my part in sharing this. Hope you have made police report. Hope the bastard will be caught.

Kindly put up a public post in fb and post the link here... The sharing power of fb is more than /k

My advice is to let it go. Its a much better closure to vaguely know its a hit and run case, than to catch the suspect but no evidence to charge him and he walk off scott free...and to think of all the time and energy needed for court cases and such ...and frankly u might even mistakenly arrest a completely innocent suspect who might get wrongly jailed.

And all for what?

Sad case, my condolences.

Faku hit and run bastard

Rip my fello k

Rip

RIP to the deceased...
The most important things is the deceased family ... dont double their burden ...
Please act if the the deceased family said so (when thier emotion is settle down)

Anyway kudos on your initiative to fight for justice for the deceased

When all else failed,maybe gives supernatural method a try. Careful not to get scammed though. Maybe a psychometer? Only need to touch an object to read the memory like the bike. No idea where to find one.

Jesus christ...

look for any shops nearby (where those incident took place). Their CCTV is your best bet.

Bakar Arang is big.. you need to be specific which road, or better yet give GPS coordinate

giv us the coordinate, we will try assist u, maybe intering the road there is CCTV as well as exiting the road. maybe there is a chance that CCTV can spot the exact car before and after damage

My condolences TS for your loss. I don't even want to imagine myself in the nieces shoes now...

I'm in Klang valley so wont be able to help, but have you thought of checking the car workshops around the area? Try asking around if there's an accident damaged car that came for repairs recently and without insurance claims

Thank you for the wishes, and also thanks for the advices on what kind of information I should look into.

I'll get to and update a.s.ap:

To some who kept telling me to lay off the case:

I won't. There may be zero hope. There may be a slight chance. But i'll hang on to it. Because its unfair to see the killer roam free.

Its unfair to tell others "dah langgar lari dah, redha jer". Talk is cheap. Try walking it when it happened to you, or your loved ones. I won't be opionated, or rather, i won't speak out my mind (because I'm grieving and I don't want to make enemies now talking bullcrap about 'forget and move on').

Yes, i'm no saint, nor am I a good person. But at the very least, I'm trying. Because I can't, i'm asking for help here.


The funeral is on-going. The entire family is completely dumbfounded. I've been trying to ask nicely (because i'm so, so, so far away) for the exact location, but I can't get it. I need time.

For two weeks he suffered.

The only consolation that I can tell myself, and tell my nieces is that their dad has left this mortal world of suffering. That he has begun another journey, another cycle of life. That he mustn't have grievances, and be attached to this world.

Thank you to the others who've given advices. I'll work on it.

Again, I cannot offer anything. But I can only type here, thank you. From the deepest part of my heart. Because to others what is "common sense", it may have evaded me. Your advices will allow me to know what to work on.

Thanks again.

Condolences

INFO updated:

opposing party made a police report, and the family finds the report very suspicious.

Any questions please ask.

Family having funeral now.

Family accepted the fact that

a) one can adhere to the rules and drive / ride properly, but you cannot avoid others who dgaf about others. Especially car drivers who dgaf when switching lanes.
b) in chinese beliefs, there are earthbound souls that will disturb the living. Its his bad luck. And worse that the ambulance never arrived in time, prompting the panicking worker and daughter (who arrived later) to make a decision to send the father by their own means in a traffic jam.

But the grieving family cannot accept the fact that in the police report by opposing party, the statement was my cousin rammed into the hit and run driver's car.



Please, /k.

Please give proper advices.

What can I do? What can we do?

Sorry to hear that. I know that pain.

sorry to hear that. hope justice will prevail.

This one really need /k lawyer's advise. Any lawyers here can help?

if wait wait wait for too long, cctv recording also gets overwritten, recycled.

That is strange
When is the report?
Any picture of motor/car?

None. The deceased's family only got to know orally that there was another report made by the opposing party.

It was only found out when one witness came up to tell them he / she saw the plate of the car speeding off.

Then when the family went to update, only found out that the opposite party made a police report stating my cousin rammed into his car.

Wth....go all out on them
May justice prevails

don't give up...must pursue justice until the end

the petronas perhaps has a cctv pointing to the accident location?

When the other party made the police report, there would have been photos taken by the police for the record.

Can you request for those photos? You might be able to tell from the damage to the car as to who hit who.

if i remember correctly the petronas station is set fruther back from the u-turn described in by the ts

how come langgar lari?

from the story it shows the other party already made report...it is not compulsory to stay at the scenea after any accident...deswai got police for us to report and they will investigate...

How come? Because the person who saw the car see him sped off with no concern.

If that ain't hit and run just because he's got a sensational police report, I don't know what is.

I'm about to curse, but I shall refrain from doing so. Yes, I'm upset with your insinuation.

Dear TS

Firstly, I am truly sorry to hear about your loss. My sincere condolences to you and your relatives.

Are there any photos of the accident scene taken prior to debris/bike removed from the road? Can I also know how the scene/road look like? If this have already been shared earlier, do let me know which page.

I want to see the road structure.

Hi there.

I'm sorry that I could not. There was only one picture of the deceased that was taken by a passer by, in a sitting position before he slipped into a coma but I have not been allowed to post the picture of the deceased.

All I know is that it happened in a dual lane road in Arang Bakar, not too far away from Petronas. It happened around 100m from some shop lot area, (but from google maps I think the entire area is developed?)

I'm trying to narrow down, but the deceased was only finally buried after final rites and last respects on 9th April, 2017.

If I can find a way to upload the pic censoring the deceased, I may, if I have the permission. The family is still grieving.

You don't have to share the photo from the incident. A photo from google map of the road structure would help.

I will try. I'm sorry because the family is just too grieving to mention details.

hyperyouth_firepower this is why nowadays people smart already. even accident best to run away fast fast first then later on only go report to police later what happened. if they remain on scene and met people like you and your thinking and relative donno what will happen to their own lives. too emotional and too heart feeling than brain feeling.

donno full story yet already blame the other party call people perpetrator. you got see it happened? so fast blame others. people already reported to police of what happened. if really at fault no dare go report police station. now report already and let police to take care of business. don't simply call other criminals without proof!!

Nice try trying to insinuate I would have assaulted him, with knee-jerking eh?
There were people who assisted my cousin. Somebody much later found out and reported the car plate number, to which the deceased's family went to update the police report, and then found the other party's report, so full of sensationalism about my cousin "ramming into his car" for no reason. Some people have offered to try to see if they can find the same passerbys who helped my cousin, because they were able to inform how the accident happened. Right now, I'm just trying to find the same set of people and hopefully they can testify as witness.

And you say there's no basis to blame the other party?

Really?

Are you trying to troll here?

Sorry bro. Only thing I can do is pray the fcker will get what he deserve.

Let's say he is right, let's just say he is right, the family is ready to accept, after all they just want to know the truth. It doesn't change the fact that my cousin already left this world.

However, its the police report made by the other party that's suspicious. That's why I'm appealing if there are witnesses who can come forward. If the other side is a liar, he should be charged as a liar.

hyperyouth_firepower
To TS, my deepest condolence to you /your cousin 's family and may be rest in peace.

Now on the topic at hand, I'm afraid I won't be able to help much besides spreading the word around as I'm based in KL.

From what I've read and assumptions from the bike damage as described by you, it may very well be your cousin did in fact rammed the car.
However whether it is the driver or rider 's fault (eg: car making a sudden turn, or without signaling etc) would be unclear without witnesses.

Regardless who's fault, the car driver should have stayed on the scene to help, if anything, it may not have sparked this thread when everyone is at scene and have everything clarified on the spot.
Right now, in my humble opinion, the burden of proof lies to the car driver as the driver fled the scene, and in most cases, you only flee in fear /of guilt.

I too, have faced similar/same case (s), and fortunately have survived albeit with permanent implants on my spine.

2 cases, both which have respective threads on LYN:
- 15 May 2016 a car hit and run me while I'm on my bike
- (can't remember exact date) a kapchai rammed into my iswara from behind and both riders/pillion (passenger) were not wearing helmet and there was a lot of blood on the scene. Thankfully both of them survived. It was clear I wasn't guilty and neighbors/witnesses were fortunately on my side and so were the police.

With the above 2 experience, I can say that I have my share of experiences on both ends and my general /personal advise is to not be emotional in dealing with this case.
Most importantly, do respect the immediate family of the deceased 's decisions.

Technically speaking its not hit and run.

Infact when I was working in a certain majority state... the police told us to NOT STOP if we get into an accident with the locals as we will be in "trouble", told us to drive directly to the police station.

Agreed and quoted for truth on this

Such injuries is very unlikely happened to kapchai if he's the one ramming the car.

If the other way around, its possible.

And also possible to have both party speeding..

Sure got at least 1 witness but in today's world who wants to trouble themselves? Good samaritans suffer much losses most of the time.

Hi joe bro,joe_kopitiam is another guy? At first I thought you changed identity and prefer pink now. joe-kopitiam must be a secret admirer maybe he's a she

I agree with the first part of your post. Just have to let it go. It happened to my family,42 years ago. A son was lost just like that. No compensation,nothing. It was a hit and run too. Nobody saw who did it bcs the driver took off so fast. He would still have to pay back his karma.

I disagree with the highlighted portion. How could an innocent person suffer for the sins of others? The disabled child must be repaying his/her own karma.

Think of it this way. It could be destined this particular soul will be reborn as disabled person, destiny will made t so that the soul to be birth into the care of another sinner. A chance for him to redeem himself together along with the child.

The worst could happen to u is looking at ur child suffer while u are unable to do anything. My theory is very far fetched but it helps me sleep better at night. Helps remind me to do as much good as possible

No lah. We are distantly 'related'. I hang out at the mamak, he hangs out at the kopitiam. That's all.

No wonder you call yourself mamak,not that you're a rl mamak. This joe uses pink so could be a girl. Who knows? Hey calling joe_kopitiam to clarify,please bro (or is it sis?) LOL just for the fun of it.

By the way I also don't see you around much. I haven't had time to hang around much these days. RL could be our problem haha.

This post has been edited by Seinz: Apr 12 2017, 12:15 PM

I see. If you put it this way,that is possible. Both child and parent are paying back their own individual karma.

That's why it's safer to do our best not to commit any wrongful acts purposely in this lifetime. We will have to pay back in our future lives if we reincarnate. To be reborn an animal is the worst punishment.

Whatever hardship,pain and suffering I go thru' in this life I try to accept by telling myself I'm paying back. In thinking like this we won't feel so much bitterness. Sometimes it feels unfair that we have to suffer so much unnecessarily (e.g. by falling seriously sick,losing financially in business,something happens to a child etc) bcs we didn't do anything bad yet bad things keep happening.

Then you notice so and so had it so good till the end. It could be his blessed feng shui or his karma. Or is it fate? Or does one's fate dependent on one's karma? If so it's even more important we not do anything bad.

This post has been edited by Seinz: Apr 12 2017, 01:59 PM

Lots of work lately.

hi ts

firstly condolences for your lost.. hope this case settle fast.

can you provide the picture of the motorcycle? by that, we can try to figure out how it happen and such..

One problem of RL. Then it's family. Those singles will have gf/bf problems. RL is actually problematic,compared to hanging around at /k/ or wherever. Goodday bro.

Dear everyone.

Thanks for the messages of condolences, and advises.

As of right now, no new updates have been made.

However, just to answer some queries, because on our side, at the moment its conjencture based on few sources, including oral retell based on the other party's police report (because I don't have one copy with me, and I don't think its even okay to show it here?)



1) accident happened in a dual lane road (or carriage way?) very near to a u-turn.
2) for some report, what I've heard is that the opposing party stated he switched lane, and suddenly felt somebody ramming into him. Fearing anything happened, he fled and later made a police report.


The whole point I'm raising is that I don't trust the opposite party, at all. Its easy to make sensational claims like my cousin ramming into him (let's just say I find doubts with the police report).

IF there are witnesses (because there was one who came up to assist with identifying the plate number, therefore the plate number of the opposite party was found, and thats' when the family found out the opposite party made a police report some time after updating the police report), we need more to corroborate, and see if what the opposite party is saying true or false.


On the other hand, about karma, letting it go, etc.

I'm not letting it go until I found the truth. Especially if the other party lied.

I'm grieving in my own way. I'm coping with that grief. But no matter how, the family's grief is worse.

I have two nieces, one about to enter university. She's never going to have her dad by her side when she registers. When she graduates. In fact, I seriously doubt if their original plan to enter a certain university would be in fruition. After all, the main breadwinner for the family is no longer.

If she grows older, and god willing, be blessed with marriage, her father won't be there as her witness. If by any chance, god willing she is blessed with a child, her father won't be there to share the joy.

And more. Not forgetting the very fact that she lost one shoulder to cry on.


As for the other party who made my cousin suffered to death; there are only two consequences.

1. He either gets away scot free.
2. He gets jailed for a short time (the jail term for reckless driving is short).

After that?

He still gets to enjoy his time in the world. With his family. With his children.



And here, we're told to "let it go".

Its easy to say, but not that easy to walk that talk.

THIS.

Check the bike's damage.

If he rams the car, the front will be damaged badly. If he is rammed, the sides will show.

Unless its a front vs front collision.....

deswai i ask ts for picture of the bike..
at least can see how it happen and see if it does match with the other party story

This is the only pic I could find. Again, its second hand. Its taken from a video, where the deceased is around. the guy in orange blocked most of it, so its not very clear.

I'm sorry as this was the ONLY known video / footage taken by a passerby who was a friend who didn't know that the deceased would have slipped into a coma by then.


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hyperyouth_firepower

not a clear.. but from the pic, the front rim does not showing any bent or dent..
if the bike ram to the car, the fork should be going to inside ( near to engine ) due to impact..

again this is just my opinion..

From the little I can see, it does look like he's been tipped over. To say he's rammed is a bit too much an exaggeration. The bike is very much 1 piece still. His head injuries is due to unsecured helmet?

This post has been edited by quikstep: Apr 12 2017, 06:18 PM

according to the doctor, a very bad angle fall, most likely. but his right hip and skull fractured, so it tallies with the fact that the car was on the right when it happened.

The thing is, no matter what, my cousin passed on to the next world. Its not like something that can be reversed.

I have to stress again; if the other party didn't lie, fine. Probably he'll be charged for reckless driving, probably not.

But if the other party lied, I can't take it standing down.


on the helmet, I have no idea. probably dah buka helmet. Because in this video, the deceased was already sitting with assistance from passerby, with them asking questions, etc.



Also, irregardless of class, creed, I just want to thank everyone. Especially in the video. Well, the current Malaysia is very.. easily triggered with racism. But the advices and assistance provided (especially to the deceased), I'm touched to think that on the community /ground level, it isn't like what I read on newspapers about Peninsular.


This post has been edited by hyperyouth_firepower: Apr 12 2017, 06:41 PM

RIP

TS comes across as a very sentimental person. These days people are so busy with life they don't even bother with their own parents,left along siblings and least of all grandparents,uncles/aunts and cousins (? LOL).

#1 - NO he won't get away scot free if he had left the victim to die on the road. Whatever it is it was an accident. The perpetrator could not have hit the victim on purpose. However,to leave the victim to die is cruel but he could have panicked or the driver was a woman so she could have felt it was safer to drive straight to the police station. Once a rider came from the side line and hit my car from behind (he was joining the main road). He fell but via my rear mirror I saw him getting up to lift up his bike so I did not stop either. He was wrong anyway.

Also,we all know how negligent many motorcyclists are,forgetting that a motorbike is a killing machine. They don't secure their helmets,ride fast and dangerously,overtake without bothering about their own/others' safety,riding fast and following closely behind buses/lorries etc when they know they can't see what's happening in front (when the bus brakes/stops suddenly what happens? It makes me think the motorcyclist has a death wish) don't maintain their machines etc. I've come across bikes without any lights at nite and the riders were in dark clothing. If they are dark-skinned summore,drivers see nothing if the road is dark unless they have very good eyesight. Many a time I get a shock of my life bcs of such couldn't-be-bothered motorcyclists.

Of course,I don't mean to insinuate that this particular victim was also negligent. He could have been a 100% responsible rider yet the accident still happened.