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English Classroom Question, dateline or deadline?
 
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TSjrrsim
post Mar 31 2017, 12:35 AM, updated 9y ago

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why malaysians like using dateline? cos deadline has the "dead" word? or they don't know dateline is not exactly correct?

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Dateline is the day and time something happened, most often a news report: the definition of dateline "Dateline Friday, June 26, 2015 at 10:00 a.m., the U.S. Supreme Court has announced that same-sex marriage is required by the Constitution."

the definition of deadline is the time by which a thing must be done. In news reporting, there's also a superlative called "drop dead deadline,"the time beyond with change for the next public report is impossible. drop-deadline "The Supreme Court's deadline for issuing the opinion was June 30th, the last day of Court before the Justices went on vacation."


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/dateline?s=t
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/deadline?s=t

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This post has been edited by jrrsim: Mar 31 2017, 09:37 PM
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post Mar 31 2017, 12:36 AM

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post Mar 31 2017, 12:38 AM

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deadline. Malaysians lazy to check spelling and assume it's dateline
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post Mar 31 2017, 12:42 AM

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Writing for impak maxima mah.

Also, revert is d other much abused 1 here.
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post Mar 31 2017, 01:04 AM

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Duedate
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post Mar 31 2017, 01:06 AM

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post Mar 31 2017, 01:07 AM

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Dateline" refers to the line of the newspaper where the date and place of publishing is printed. "Deadline", on the other hand, is the last time that something can be completed without being late. For example, the deadline for the newspaper is Saturday at 2 o'clock.
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post Mar 31 2017, 04:58 AM

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never seen anyone using dateline though
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post Mar 31 2017, 05:02 AM

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got meh?? I've never seen anyone (malaysians/non-malaysians) use dateline....
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post Mar 31 2017, 05:59 AM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 31 2017, 01:04 AM)
Duedate
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this. ts can kolos
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post Mar 31 2017, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(empatTan @ Mar 31 2017, 12:42 AM)
Writing for impak maxima mah.

Also, revert is d other much abused 1 here.
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Yup, revert.

I cringe at "please revert back as soon as possible".

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post Mar 31 2017, 07:43 AM

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Pronunciation mtfkr.
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post Mar 31 2017, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(empatTan @ Mar 31 2017, 12:42 AM)
Writing for impak maxima mah.

Also, revert is d other much abused 1 here.
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Mar 31 2017, 07:32 AM)
Yup, revert.

I cringe at "please revert back as soon as possible".

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I'm not a racist but according to dictionary.... it's Indian E....

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post Mar 31 2017, 07:48 AM

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Another cringe-worthy one I see all the time:

Noted with thanks

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post Mar 31 2017, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(empatTan @ Mar 31 2017, 12:42 AM)
Writing for impak maxima mah.

Also, revert is d other much abused 1 here.
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Apakah sarahan revert?
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post Mar 31 2017, 07:50 AM

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DEADline

Dead, Dead, Dead

really benci the pkm Dateline
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post Mar 31 2017, 07:50 AM

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It does not matter. In language, there is no right or wrong. It is what people in locality understand.

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post Mar 31 2017, 07:51 AM

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I was 1 of them
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post Mar 31 2017, 08:02 AM

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You are dead if you don't pass up your work on time.

So, it's deadline! rclxm9.gif


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post Mar 31 2017, 08:10 AM

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Got ppl use dateline?
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post Mar 31 2017, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 31 2017, 07:48 AM)
Apakah sarahan revert?
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There is plenty of debate on the internet

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/magazine...language-t.html

http://community.jobscentral.com.sg/articl...ou-are-misusing
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post Mar 31 2017, 10:17 AM

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my waifu tutor for cambridge also dont mensi to me about this. oh no.. my english vocab so poor sad.gif
TSjrrsim
post Mar 31 2017, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(gotgiant @ Mar 31 2017, 01:07 AM)
Dateline" refers to the line of the newspaper where the date and place of publishing is printed. "Deadline", on the other hand, is the last time that something can be completed without being late. For example, the deadline for the newspaper is Saturday at 2 o'clock.
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wasn't asking the difference actually.. asking why so many use it wrong.. you just said back what i said in the first post.. guess many forumers are really guilty of not reading before replying..

QUOTE(butterjiken @ Mar 31 2017, 04:58 AM)
never seen anyone using dateline though
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QUOTE(TSOM @ Mar 31 2017, 05:02 AM)
got meh?? I've never seen anyone (malaysians/non-malaysians) use dateline....
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QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 31 2017, 08:10 AM)
Got ppl use dateline?
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are u sure? or do u just assume they used the correct version? I created this thread after beh tahan seeing people use "dateline" again on THIS forum.. hopefully i can help raise awareness and reduce the cringeworthy "dateline" being used

QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Mar 31 2017, 05:59 AM)
this. ts can kolos
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haha.. yes please tell all your friends that dunno which one is correct to use due date instead

TSjrrsim
post Mar 31 2017, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Mar 31 2017, 07:48 AM)
Another cringe-worthy one I see all the time:

Noted with thanks

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apa sarahan? depending on the context i don't see the problem

QUOTE(seventwo @ Mar 31 2017, 10:17 AM)
my waifu tutor for cambridge also dont mensi to me about this. oh no.. my english vocab so poor sad.gif
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haha, glad i could help you with this, the whoel purpose of this thread actually. please use "deadline" or "due date" in the future unless u really mean the dateline on a newspaper or the international dateline

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post Mar 31 2017, 09:12 PM

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post Mar 31 2017, 09:14 PM

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kasi ikat mati. deadline
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post Mar 31 2017, 09:18 PM

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"With regards to" to refer to a certain matter. mad.gif
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post Mar 31 2017, 09:21 PM

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deadline is deadline
there's no such thing as dateline
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post Mar 31 2017, 09:24 PM

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Revert doesn't mean reply. It means to switch back to the previous situation.
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post Mar 31 2017, 09:24 PM

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i say depends on your work, sometimes it can be dateline sometimes it can DEADline
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post Mar 31 2017, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Mar 31 2017, 09:24 PM)
i say depends on your work, sometimes it can be dateline sometimes it can DEADline
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so when is it dateline?
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post Mar 31 2017, 09:28 PM

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post Mar 31 2017, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Mar 31 2017, 05:59 AM)
this. ts can kolos
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at work, we all use "cut-off date". Not duedate, not deadline, dateline
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post Mar 31 2017, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(jrrsim @ Mar 31 2017, 09:26 PM)
so when is it dateline?
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manglish slang

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post Mar 31 2017, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 31 2017, 01:04 AM)
Duedate
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u pregnant isit?
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post Mar 31 2017, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Annoynimous @ Mar 31 2017, 09:24 PM)
Revert doesn't mean reply. It means to switch back to the previous situation.
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there is an example that is *barely* acceptable. You attach a document to be signed by someone and ask them to revert the document once signed.

Revert = Reply (X)
Revert = Return something (acceptable?)

any english gurus or grammar nazis care to comment?

QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 31 2017, 09:29 PM)
at work, we all use "cut-off date". Not duedate, not deadline, dateline
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sounds good too!
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post Mar 31 2017, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Mar 31 2017, 09:31 PM)
manglish slang
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which means it's still WRONG.. that's not manglish, that's ignorance

QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Mar 31 2017, 09:32 PM)
u pregnant isit?
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post Mar 31 2017, 09:45 PM

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"Dateline" refers to the line of the newspaper where the date and place of publishing is printed. "Deadline", on the other hand, is the last time that something can be completed without being late. For example, the deadline for the newspaper is Saturday at 2 o'clock. The dateline will be printed and italics.

Dateline is not a commonly used word. Others have explained its meaning, which has to do with newspaper publishing. The word deadline is used in day-to-day speech to refer to the date and/or time by which something, usually work-related, must be completed.
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QUOTE(jrrsim @ Mar 31 2017, 09:32 PM)
there is an example that is *barely* acceptable. You attach a document to be signed by someone and ask them to revert the document once signed.

Revert = Reply  (X)
Revert = Return something (acceptable?)

any english gurus or grammar nazis care to comment?

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If we're going pure grammar Nazi mode, both are wrong. But English as a language, evolves. Words take on new meanings as usage expands to more non-native speakers.
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QUOTE(jrrsim @ Mar 31 2017, 09:32 PM)
there is an example that is *barely* acceptable. You attach a document to be signed by someone and ask them to revert the document once signed.

Revert = Reply  (X)
Revert = Return something (acceptable?)

any english gurus or grammar nazis care to comment?
sounds good too!
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Without looking at dictionary, both are not suitable and flat out incorrect..

Revert are more like, return to the previous state/condition/situation?

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