there u go thanks for clarifying and well said bro!  i know plenty of people like that who buy premium tyres and belittle others

On what car are these?? See, if you cannot afford properly good tires for your rim size, don't use such big rims in the first place! Use big rims for what, showing off only??    Even if you think the width provide extra grip but in fact better tires at smaller sizes may still outperform shit wide tires at the limit, especially their controllability. Note also wider tires will be easier to aquaplane, hence now you're thinking to use tires which is already noted as having shit aquaplaning resistance too at such wide sizes, so go figure how they will perform in the wet!    Actually IMHO shit tires like this is only suitable for people who has mad driving skills with lighting reflexes and very high sensitivity to sense the tires at the limit, in other words a professional/race driver. Normal drivers like us need better tires to compensate for our normal driving skill to keep us safer. So unless you're a pro driver, better avoid shit tires like this!

Still pro drivers do have more skill than average drivers, no denying there so when they are faced with emergency situations they have better reaction and response on how to control the car, for example handling the car in a skid or emergency braking. Then there's the level of mentality, pro drivers will be calmer in such situations as they have experienced it many times before, while average drivers tend to panic and react often wrongly. They are also more sensitive on how the car behaves especially approaching and past the limit as they have done it countless times. So yeah, even in normal roads their skill and experience will still give them advantage to handle critical situations.
Normal people who review cannot be taken too seriously because as I said most likely they don't have the skill and the equipment to do a proper assessment, and their experience with various different tires are still comparatively much more limited to the pro reviewers. It's like if you're used to using a low end/slow phone/computer, then when asked about another slow laggy computer then you will say it's still not bad, but if you already tried the good ones then now you know how crappy the crap ones are!    Same with cars & tires, if you haven't tried good tires, then you may not have the idea how good it should be, so the shit one you think are still ok.

Shops of course will speak good things la, they will try to sell to make money what!    So you want to believe everything shops tell you? We as customers must be smarter than that!

I personally would not try crap tires like that, coz I value myself better than just the price difference of such cheapo tires vs the good ones. I also enjoy driving and having decent handling or at least to maximize the handling capability of my car, so no I would not risk worsening it! I actually had tried low end cheaper tires before even though not as cheap as this Landsail, for example a low/mid range model of GT Radial, low end models of Goodyear/Bridgestone/Continental and even those were already shit!  So trying even lower ones like this Landsail or other China tires?? Thanks, but no thanks!  

Anyway it's up to you, none of my business coz it's your money, your car, your life. I just give recommendation based on what I think is the best way, up to everyone to take or not, I don't really care actually. 

Who says I'm heated up? I'm as calm as ice here and I keep smiling right? 

As I said, if shops, no matter what they only think about profit! Of course they will say good things about products that they carry ma! Where got shops who have some products and then tell you they are shit??? 

People in BMW club can be anybody, who knows what! The only thing sure about these people are they definitely have money but that doesn't say anything about how good they are when comes to evaluating tires properly.  Reputable media on the other hand do have such experience as they have done it many times over. So who do you trust, a nobody just because they own BMW or belonging in some BMW clubs, or people who really know what they are doing and even actually live by doing such reports??? Common sense should prevail there.

As for myself, as I said I have tried lower end tires before which are still more reputable than this Landsail and yet they're already shit, why on earth should I go even lower to try even shittier ones??? It's like you already tried some crappy food and yet you want to try those even lesser ones just for the sake of trying?? C'mon dude, again common sense shall prevail!

Anyway I think you've made up your mind so no matter what anybody said here, it will never change your mind coz you just want to buy cheapo tires, either because you're a cheap skate or you just really cannot afford properly good tires since you've gone with too big rims without thinking of the consequences! (You know better which one are you). So I'm not gonna waste more time trying to convince you otherwise as it's also none of my business, so help yourself.

Before you imply anything, answer these questions first:
- One asked if to use some China low end tires, then another person advise in a normal manner by giving a relevant reference link by a European media reviewer that says that tire is no good. Is the advisor being a 'smart ass' here?? Read the real first response of the person who advised in this case ya.
- Now despite such input, the person asking still basically say he doesn't believe and would want to try himself still. So basically ignoring/neglecting what has been advised to him despite him asking the advise to begin with. He even went as far as trying to defend by saying some random people from some club say it's good. Now who is the 'smart ass' now??

I suggest if you don't bother to really read in detail or think about it, just keep your nose clean and don't brown it up by sticking it up some random guy back side.
Have a good day!

Likely drive BMW wor....since mentioned that BMW forum members find this tyre very value for money   
To be fair, unlike tyres, smartphone components are pretty standard around the world and the parts bin (mainly the chipset) performance are pretty much objectively known and tested by so many parties. Pretty much all the performance of different brands will perform similar if use the same particular chipset. Only variation will be the optimisation done on the OS "skin" applied on top of the android platform, but still won't deviate much.

And the fact is that the particular tyre was already tested and the comment is highly unfavourable towards safe driving. There are proper and well known brands that sell at similar (or very slight premium) but so much better performance.

But after all, as you said, his money, his wheels, his car, his choice...

Yeah man, go figure, and now he/she got some other busy body kissing his/her ass too! 
Sigh got many weird people here lately...     
Bro (or maybe sis?), just answer my questions first la. If cannot then just bugger off, coz your nose is already so stinky full of that brown crap from sticking it into the other guy's/girl's back side ya. 

Comparing tires to phones, wasting my time only... 

Still haven't truly answer my questions too but going around and round and not paying attention to the details.
Apparently typical busy body person you are huh, meddling in other people's business/arguments until your nose is so brown and smelly already.   
Maybe I hit 2 soft spots lately with just 1 stone huh??  

Just go to sleep la kid, it's past your bed time already and I don't want to waste my time anymore with people like you.

i see i see    Thank you for reminding that the free speech space here was "abused" 

So people sell you A insurance RM100 for 100k medical coverage, then get info from some other place say this is good deal, should buy. Mana tau another B insurance company sell RM100 for 150k medical coverage. Then some "lansi lanyong" folks just pointed out, "eh, got better deal, forget about A, consider B insurance."

Fuh kena, cucuk....you think mod so free to check every single post meh....

Tag him in la....report the "offensive" posts, so we can get "free holidays" 
Really wonder why so easily offended when a friendly advise can turn so hostile and twist into personal attack.

It is like playing chess with a pigeon, even if win against it, no matter what, still shit on the chess board....

Fellors, can you properly read what i wrote with the insurance example :
1) A company RM100 for 100k coverage
2) B company RM100 for 150k coverage

Assuming all else being same, why still A? With the same RM100, why pay A when B gives you additional 50% coverage/benefits??

From what i observed, the posts have been read into "too much" into distorting the main intent of the message.

The insurance was an example given to describe the simple point that for landsail money (or top up a little more), can get another brand that is more established product and proven performance.

If even this seems offensive, then well....just let it be....