No offense but serenia city....is totally different few tier lower league than cbj....

Its like buying a house in smbandar baru salak tinggi or dengkil....

If you could afford a better choice and u despise cbj, u shuda bought any props in putrajaya. There the market value still roughly holds as many of the dev there is just gomen quarters and theres not many oversupply private residential in putrajaya yet

Serenia City is like par level with Dengkil, Salak Tinggi, pedalaman Sepang area. But if thats how much u can afford as i know the price there is still wayy cheaper for landed and highrise. No issue.

I think we said again and again before dun touch non landed. U r talkin g about IOK which was the only parcel they were dumb enough to launch. Their landed is doing well. The semis and bungalows are good buy if u r into it.
Somehow u choose the worse one to compare. Like that no place is liveable. Out of the 11 landed I own , majority out of cyber mostly in subang ones i cant say all are doing perfect as well. So it's not a cyber problem. If u r interested i can tell u which landed are good in cyber.
Lepironia semi the resort one is good , starting at sub 2m, charm of nusantara is ok, if u r looking for budget ones IOB landed are good , terrace starting at 1m. These are good for own stay

Another factor that i love live in cbj:

1) near to klinik kesihatan presint 9. Whenever my kids got fever for 3days, we will straight go there for blood test. Rm1 only. And i can go after office hour. Really convenient, fast service, average 40mins-1hour only start from register, until collect medicine. The KK operates until 10pm. Saturday also open.

2) we love food court at p9 (beside KK) Really cheap food and tasty.

3) a lot of public pool, every precint have public pool for small kids. So far i bring my kids to p9, or pool at dataran gemilang.

4) whenever my kid want to play sand or pantai, i bring him to maritim, beside pullman have a man made beach.

Well....we love pjaya alot, but property there dont have G2G. So better live in cbj, and have fun at pjaya. Heheheh

thanks for the reply. Ceria looks fine for his budget of below 400k. What about verdi?

I posted the management-fee defaults for the Crystal Serin Residence in the post you quoted - didn't say anything about Serin Residency. Albeit I put it in spoiler tags, but this time around, for visibility, I'll leave it open for all to see since you guys are so pampered     






Yeap, only 1 transaction for as long as the website has recorded this ( i set the timeline to "all transactions"). VP 2 years ago and only 1 transaction? Launch price RM550k as per propsocial, and now developer lelong at 400k? So now the owners can't liquidate their assets because most of them would have loans outstanding with the banks north of RM400k.

Tag this post

This violates PDPA, once I know where this guy work I will report him

Anyway, many developer units

I am now stay in puchong and near to lrt but I rather drive to putrajaya sentral to take the 20 minutes train.... I did it for few years already, I tried lrt also but still klia transit is the best.

I partially agree with you. My view are
1) it is fine to stay in rented property or buy a property as long as you are aware and really aware what you are doing.
2) people have to ask themselves, if I don't buy property, where my money will go after deducting rental. The reality is a lot of people will spend it.
3) interest (the actual amount paid as interest) for mortgages is reducing over the years, so time play a role. Start young has an advantage. I always regret I didn't start earlier.
4) I always feel the mortgages become "lighter" over the years because income increases over the years. I always surprised I actually "save" so much money when I see the difference between my property price vs how much I owe banks.

I can talk very long but in short, if you know what you are doing, please go ahead. It is easy to say I can invest money in higher returns tools but really not easy to do depending on each person ability.

Again, just a friendly reminder, do share good things about buying property, I am sure you have reasons to buy property. And I fully believed not all condos in cbj are bad, we can not lump them together.....

There must be good things about cbj also otherwise why you stay there.....

Where did I say resale value is not important? I am saying when buying house, people do not just consider resale value. All the problems you mentioned about own stay happens in every else. When a couple is married, they do not make hasty decision of living somewhere else just because they get a new job offer or just because their spouse demand to move. No one will accept a job offer if they can't cope with it especially it is inconvenient. If it is an irresistible offer, then the salary should be sufficient to cover any traveling expenses. You make it sound like Cyberjaya is somewhere deep in the jungle where it is not accessible at all. Just because it takes you 1 1/2 hour to travel to KL, you make a big fuss about it but a lot of people do that regularly. I have a colleague who stay in Seremban and travel 2 hours everyday to work. She says its OK as she just love her house in Seremban. There are also colleagues who stay in Puchong and Damansara who travel 1 to 1 1/2 hour to work everyday because nobody can avoid the jams if your office is in the city center. Some colleagues who take LRT or MRT travel also need at least an hour to travel to work and they are OK too.

Did your wife force you to move to Cyberjaya? Is this the origins of your hostility to Cyberjaya?

When I was young and my gf (now my wife) told me (when we looked at the city view), there were thousands of lights (from the houses) but none of them belong to us. Renting and owning a house is really different, very different feeling.

Not necessarily one of the unit in the 20 towers in cbj, but can be in any other places. Hope you will get one.