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icemanfx
post May 12 2019, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 12 2019, 04:43 PM)
Cyberjaya is a great city to live - thats a fact

For those who treat it as a place to flip - stupid!

Any sane man can see Cyberjaya is a new city and only starting to mature so they cant absorb that much of properties

While i agree with you it is not a good place to invest it doesnt take away the fact that it is a great and liveable city for those who actually buy for their own living
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Every place is liveable. Tranquility in CBJ will likely disappeared when residence are fully occupied.

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 12 2019, 04:43 PM)
Why u want make yourself sleepless for so long just because of 20 Towers thing ?

For us , who buy for home stay do not worry about the 20 + one tower.

WE also admitted long time ago, Cyberjaya is not a good place to invest yr money ....it is an " opened secret" .go and look for somewhere else to invest ..no need for you to waste your time here.
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The issue is many still entice innocent to invest here.
icemanfx
post May 12 2019, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 12 2019, 06:25 PM)
I thought u promoted Cyberjaya as a failed S Valley long time ago , why so many  still do not  take your advice seriously  not to buy ?

Perhaps, u  forget to tell them a perfect place ( like where u live ) , lor ?

Do not feel heart sick if people do not take your advice, it is normal in any open forum.
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post May 12 2019, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 12 2019, 06:39 PM)
Another Fault of Cyberjaya , I am sure u mean that
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post May 12 2019, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 12 2019, 07:16 PM)
Not really

Good thing about cyberjaya it is a planned city

So you wont see dumpsters style industry, seedy 'massage' place, hawkers occupying main road, workshop beside restaurants, school located far away, factories and industries in the middle of residential areas etc
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CBJ is relatively new and planned without industry, couldn't compare with older cities. On the other hand, a sterile city is unlikely be vibrant.

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 12 2019, 07:40 PM)
That is why I ask Ice where she lives, and most of time she refuses to answer back.

If she dares not  say where she lives..perhaps it could be just  another place.......almost  as what u  just  describe above.

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Classic of uuu/BBB, has to name calling. Do you believe if I tell or matter; I live in a few countries or few time zone away from you.
icemanfx
post May 12 2019, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 12 2019, 08:02 PM)
Ya, Few countries where u live do not have a name ..I believe what u say laugh.gif

I want to invest/buy  a property in Jupiter too.
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Before you go so far, suggest to start at somewhere near first e.g PNH, sgn, ygn, Sin, BKK. Mind you leverage may not be available.

Certain property price jumped 3 folds in last 5 years in one of the city mentioned.

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post May 12 2019, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ May 12 2019, 08:14 PM)
I dun think just because u live in few countries , means u r better actually lol.
I stayed in UK and also Aussies before as my family members are Australians but doesnt mean im better lol
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post May 12 2019, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 12 2019, 08:22 PM)
I also strike first prize in lottery..better return than yr investments biggrin.gif
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Congratulations, hope you buy more and win even more.

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post May 12 2019, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 12 2019, 08:26 PM)
I treat it  as a small donation, donate only small amount each month... wink.gif
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post May 18 2019, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 18 2019, 01:37 PM)
Wow yes. You are correct. No bidder just now.
New price and details as below:

K02 is actually the block number. This unit is located at Ground Floor.
Come with 2 car park slots. Facing lake.

K02-03, Jalan Setia Marina 3/2, Setia Eco Glades, Cyber 1, 63000 Cyberjaya
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 607,500🔥🔥
Freehold
1414 sqft (Type B Harmonia)
Auction: 10-Jun-2019 (Mon)
*Vacant, brand new unit condition

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Launch price from❌ RM 854,205❌ ( 2015 )

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post May 18 2019, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 18 2019, 04:19 PM)
Actually it becomes big news in cyberjaya because it seldom happens so when it does happen it is actually “echoed” louder than compared to other places, because cyberjaya is full of rich and important people.

Just see the news headline and how they mention the “location” like cyberjaya, if this happened in a place like puchong, they won’t even bother put “puchong” in the headline (just an example).
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What is population of cbj vs puchong?
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post May 19 2019, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 18 2019, 05:37 PM)
Not sure, just telling you why it’s big news when it happens in cyberjaya, and why news headings also mention the location cyberjaya. Because this stuff not suppose to happen in a city like cyberjaya.
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On a news quiet day, brutal murder on headlines is not unusual regardless of area. are you saying cbj residents are holier than others?

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post May 19 2019, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 18 2019, 05:37 PM)
Not sure, just telling you why it’s big news when it happens in cyberjaya, and why news headings also mention the location cyberjaya. Because this stuff not suppose to happen in a city like cyberjaya.
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QUOTE(CK15 @ May 19 2019, 05:06 PM)
Don’t put your words into other mouth. All of us are the same. No one is superior than others. Just the brain not work the same.
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Read for yourself.

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post May 20 2019, 02:12 PM

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Theft/ Pencuri Office Break In at Cyberjaya – Lets share his picture until he is caught!
http://www.diyanazman.com/2013/03/01/theft...l-he-is-caught/

Acting on a tip off, police arrested nine more people. Eight Nigerians were arrested in an apartment in Cyberjaya; while a Filipino woman was arrested in an apartment in Jalan Kuching.
https://www.nst.com.my/news/2015/12/117555/...gerian-scammers

Police believed they have solved 26 cases after busting an African "Love Scam", arresting 13 individuals in Puchong and Cyberjaya on Jan 5.
https://www.thesundaily.my/archive/1672330-ASARCH347045

Nigerians, one local nabbed in Cyberjaya over African scam
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...r-african-scam/

KUALA LUMPUR: A Nigerian man believed to have been involved in an 'African Scam' worth RM3.6 million was detained at a condominium in Cyberjaya yesterday morning.
http://english.astroawani.com/malaysia-new...yberjaya-113062

“We raided several locations at Jalan Klang Lama, Cyberjaya and Damansara and arrested the suspects, aged between 28 and 40,” he said when contacted yesterday.
Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017...1kSBjrs6cCv3.99

3 foreign men, local woman detained over Cyberjaya hit-and-run case
Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...CWzoxChdLg02.99

Robbers Are Allegedly Using Kindness Of Strangers In Cyberjaya To Prey On Grab Drivers
https://says.com/my/news/netizens-in-cyberj...-attack-drivers

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post May 20 2019, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(status quo @ May 19 2019, 09:15 PM)
Cyberjaya is the highest income per capita city in Malaysia after Putrajaya.

it is a very low crime rate area.
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Cbj lovers are truly syok sendiri. Since when statistics department has publish data down to district level? BTW, what is population of cbj? Day time and night time population? What is household income distribution?

QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 19 2019, 10:45 PM)
I didn't mean to sound holier than thou, just giving my two cents on the issue since you all were discussing it.

And as you pointed out, what Cyberjaya goes through, other cities go through as well, but Cyberjaya always gets echoed louder than others.
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Echoed loudly by cbj lovers.

QUOTE(status quo @ May 20 2019, 03:12 AM)
secretariat for counsel of emminent person . ex-khazanah director dr muhammad khalid did mentioned this. i also remember many other studies did mention this.
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Kindly enlighten us with these studies.

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QUOTE(PPbee123 @ May 20 2019, 05:19 PM)
Not saying that the previous post was right about CBJ having the highest per capita income in Malaysia after Putrajaya, but the statistics department collects and publishes household income for 20 districts.

https://www.dosm.gov.my/v1/index.php?r=colu...mdhMjFMMWcyZz09
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Thanks for sharing.
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 20 2019, 07:53 PM)
I’ve been all around Klang valley and Cyberjaya doesn’t have the amount of foreigners as say pj or kl. It’s just because the city is small that it seems to have a lot more than others. People like you seem to have some hatred towards cyber, i really wonder why?

I’ve stayed all around Klang valley and I can say the stuff you read like bad drivers is actually untrue. You get worse drivers in other parts of kl than cyber. In fact after staying cyber, I dread driving into kl as there are worse drivers and worse roads to endure.

So I really am curious why you hate on cyber so much?
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We have no interest or feeling on cbj, couldn't possibly hate cbj. it is only cbj lovers couldn't afford to loss branded different opinion haters.

with more foreclosure and dropping auction price in cbj, expect cbj lovers to be more emotional aggressive, defensive.

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post May 21 2019, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 21 2019, 12:51 AM)
And you get more foreigners in other cities. Cyber is a small city, with a small population. So when you see a white person, they will stand out, when you see a China person they will also stand out, when you see blacks, they too also stand out.

But the way you describe it is like there's no other race except Africans here when it's actually far from the truth.

So quite curious actually what is your hidden agenda? Did you invest in a house and lose money and now taking a hit?

Or are you unhappy your wife made you move to another city?

Just curious. Every story has a backstory to it and I'm singling you out cause non stop you have been bad mouthing cyber.

You are like how Lim Kit Sing bad mouths Najib and Najib calls him Menhen (Menteri Hal Ehwal Najib).

Maybe should call you Menteri Hal Ehwal Cyberjaya.
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Classic of blinded by greed herd behaviour, name calling. almost certain, you have much vested interest in cbj and couldn't afford to loss. unfortunately, name calling and denying reality won't relieve you of your losses.


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post May 21 2019, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ May 21 2019, 02:36 AM)
I don’t own any property. I’m just staying here temporarily and really find it funny how you bad mouth the place.

My intention is to only find out why you keep badmouthing it?

It’s like some people exist in order to spite someone or something, like in your case, that spite is cyberjaya.
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I have no interest or feeling on cbj, just share reality and offer my opinion.

cbj is just another town, has crime, dirts, sin, etc. why can't cbj lovers accept it? why cbj lovers must resorted to name calling?

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post May 21 2019, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ May 21 2019, 06:21 AM)
You have to look at the per capita figures, not the nominal counts. Admittedly, I have no data on this other than anecdotal evidences, but it appears the percentage of foreigners over the total population is much higher in Cyberjaya than in other cities. I can also vouch that these foreigners know about Cyberjaya as a crime den even back in their original countries. They would talk about Cyberjaya as to how we talk about "London, Paris, New York". Places that they aspire to be.
 
I suggest you do not get personal about my decisions here. I was not the one who forced people to make the mistakes of buying overpriced developer units in Cyberjaya. I have a number of clients who bought in Cyberjaya, but they tended to pay for auction units (great deals) and units in matured areas with stabilized prices such as Pinggiran Cyberjaya. As it is, it is very difficult for Cyberjaya investors to exit the market due to these paper losses, and the longer they hold the unit, the longer they bleed through low or lack of rentals. I would know, I rent here. 

For now, I noticed the most ardent defenders of Cyberjaya seem to be the ones who overpaid for their condos and are looking at their paper losses on a daily basis, with news about auctions that are further dragging the prices down. I am not bad mouthing Cyberjaya for fun, it is just that I live here and I can see it happening, I report what I observe, added with some of my thoughts on the issues. I have been told that people appreciate my insights, because those with vested interest in Cyberjaya cannot be trusted to give critical information or unbiased opinions about the city they have invested in.

A good number of millennials have been declared bankrupt for buying units in Cyberjaya and in turn being foreclosed by the bank. This is because they believed the stories peddled by people with vested interests (agents, developers, fellow investors) about investing in the city, and as a whole, in properties. Cyberjaya should serve as a warning to those who are planning to buy properties for investment purposes. 

I am a mortgage broker by trade, and by right I should be encouraging people to buy as many properties as they can, so I can help them with loan applications. But I have no interests in that. Unless you are buying auction units at barrel-bottom prices, a fire-sale units with owners who want to let got their units to avoid foreclosure, or units in stabilized areas like Pinggiran Cyberjaya, I would tell you to forget it. Property investments are dangerous especially for a newbie. A single wrong decision (such as buying overpriced developer units in Cyberjaya) can doom you to bankruptcy.
 
Once my unit in Serenia is completed, you are open to criticize the city and I look forward to defending it. I welcome you to do so as long as you stick with facts, figures, or evidence-backed observations (pictures, self-counts, etc) - or not, as I will destroy your arguments. This is an open forum after all, a number of my posts here have been reported but the admins and mods have not taken any actions against me; and it is very appalling though to see people with vested interests in Cyberjaya trying to shut my mouth. It is akin to a farmer who tries to put a lipstick on a pig, but got angry with me because I called out the pig.

For the uninitiated, I am not calling Cyberjaya a pig: To put "lipstick on a pig" is a rhetorical expression, used to convey the message that making superficial or cosmetic changes is a futile attempt to disguise the true nature of a product or person. (Wikipedia link)


I dont know which unit Charm of Nusantara is.. but I assume it is a terraced house? Which road is it on?

1. As for the transacted prices, there is no way to know if the prices were "marked up".

2. Latest transaction is only 1.150M, which is not much higher than the 1.1M launching price. When was it launched?

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post May 22 2019, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 21 2019, 04:03 PM)
No offense but serenia city....is totally different few tier lower league than cbj....

Its like buying a house in smbandar baru salak tinggi or dengkil....

If you could afford a better choice and u despise cbj, u shuda bought any props in putrajaya. There the market value still roughly holds as many of the dev there is just gomen quarters and theres not many oversupply private residential in putrajaya yet

Serenia City is like par level with Dengkil, Salak Tinggi, pedalaman Sepang area. But if thats how much u can afford as i know the price there is still wayy cheaper for landed and highrise. No issue.
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Cbj lovers like to use seg as example but vast majority of cbj poorperly are condo and irrelevant to seg. Cbj launch and asking price is higher than salak tinggi, dengkil, etc due largely to developers marketing and overpricing.

There is no doubt town planning, infrastructure, facilities, etc are important. Current number of home in cbj could cater >2 times of cbj population a few years ago. But why over half of newly vped condo remain unoccupied?

Cbj could syok sendiri continue to claimed to be the bestest in the universe but the volume and price of subsale and auction reflect the reality. No matter how much cbj lovers could syok sendiri, overhang couldn't be denied.

Until cbj poorperly price dropped significantly, many of condo will remain unoccupied.

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