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post Apr 5 2017, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Inf3rnal @ Apr 5 2017, 04:00 PM)
any rules stating that only non-muslim can purchase and collect winnings?

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hi, for witnessing the draw, only people 21 or older & non muslim can participate.

i see no rule saying muslims over 21 cannot buy.

the problem is when claiming the prize, if small amount i think they don't care, but if big payout, they might bring in the religion card to refuse payment, simply because, it's against the law for muslims to judi, thus you committed a crime, thus, Sports Toto may have the reason to refuse payment.

for buying, as long nobody make noise they don't care.
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can pick 1 number and another number random lucky pick for 4d jackpot or not? minta tunjuk ajar.
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:07 PM

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Special draw means what? Higher pay out?

Why whatsapp group always remind today is special draw day?
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 5 2017, 04:06 PM)
hi, for witnessing the draw, only people 21 or older & non muslim can participate.

i see no rule saying muslims over 21 cannot buy.

the problem is when claiming the prize, if small amount i think they don't care, but if big payout, they might bring in the religion card to refuse payment, simply because, it's against the law for muslims to judi, thus you committed a crime, thus, Sports Toto may have the reason to refuse payment.

for buying, as long nobody make noise they don't care.
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No issue for payout below 30k. If 30k n above u need to collect at their hq. If below can just collect the winning at those small toto outlets. They dont even check ur ic.
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Apr 5 2017, 04:05 PM)
I wont deny i used to buy toto. Long time ago when i was working in statistics field. Just like to test my number skills.

Won 1st prize 4d 3 times yo biggrin.gif
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how much you won total?

did you use excel or some database to calculate?

since 4D involves only 10k numbers i think normal database can handle.

the difficulty part is updating the database manually for all the results including latest ones.

did you take into account the age of the Numbers opened into your calculation? for example a number just opened 1st time has lower chance to open in the next draw compared to a number that has opened 3 times but long ago etc?
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Apr 5 2017, 04:07 PM)
Special draw means what? Higher pay out?

Why whatsapp group always remind today is special draw day?
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SP draw was yesterday.
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:10 PM

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do u think is it a business idea that to help those can't gamble to buy number and claim prize? brows.gif

flat rate service charge or percentage based .
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Apr 5 2017, 04:09 PM)
No issue for payout below 30k. If 30k n above u need to collect at their hq. If below can just collect the winning at those small toto outlets. They dont even check ur ic.
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for small amount they pay cash, if 30k they pay cash or cheque?
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Apr 5 2017, 04:10 PM)
do u think is it a business idea that to help those can't gamble to buy number and claim prize?  brows.gif

flat rate service charge or percentage based .
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they rather trust their cinaman kuli than some strangers dude.

i mean once you claim the prize (or even got hold the ticket), it's legally urs. unless someone points a gun at your head to return it to them. most likely, you would rather die that give back.
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Apr 5 2017, 04:10 PM)
do u think is it a business idea that to help those can't gamble to buy number and claim prize?  brows.gif

flat rate service charge or percentage based .
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hang slow by decades. my relative been doing that for decades already, they call it tulis nombor.
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QUOTE(ISawYou @ Apr 5 2017, 04:13 PM)
hang slow by decades. my relative been doing that for decades already, they call it tulis nombor.
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that's common for chinese neighborhood. malay society also same?
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Apr 5 2017, 04:15 PM)
that's common for chinese neighborhood. malay society also same?
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those are underground bookie, win no guarantee, sometimes bookie will run. most importantly, no guarantee!
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:18 PM

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da fuk, the explanation macam astro science. Cant u make a simple version
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 5 2017, 04:16 PM)
those are underground bookie, win no guarantee, sometimes bookie will run. most importantly, no guarantee!
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why they don't introduce online ticketing system like cinema? laugh.gif
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:19 PM

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today buy 5096 brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(will4848 @ Apr 5 2017, 04:19 PM)
today buy 5096  brows.gif  brows.gif

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wonder if got a set of number appear twice when draw?
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post Apr 5 2017, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 5 2017, 04:10 PM)
how much you won total?

did you use excel or some database to calculate?

since 4D involves only 10k numbers i think normal database can handle.

the difficulty part is updating the database manually for all the results including latest ones.

did you take into account the age of the Numbers opened into your calculation? for example a number just opened 1st time has lower chance to open in the next draw compared to a number that has opened 3 times but long ago etc?
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I only buy when i am confident a number will come up. I only buy rm 2 big 2 small, iperm big rm2. So, once win rm12+++.

Can just refer www.4d2u.com for the history draw for any set of numbers. From there u can use whatever theory calculations to get a pattern. I noticed the pattern will change after a big win.

Forgit the year, but there was this 1 year there was no pattern that i could establish. Which made me stop buying. The numbers are all totally random. Even if i got a set of numbers right, but it was impossible to get straight, only iperm winnings. Not sure about now though.

I always believed in chaos theory. From there i just hentam gaban make my own hentam gaban formula, which actually worked a few times. Hahaha
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 5 2017, 04:11 PM)
for small amount they pay cash, if 30k they pay cash or cheque?
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That i dunno. Never win that much
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Oh this thread is very informative. Never knew the big or small is for what. Now I know. Mod should pin this.

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