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post Apr 6 2017, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 6 2017, 10:03 AM)
if aunty not Chinese she might not get u, give u normal, then when open u though u won coz u bao, end up no bao.

i-perm is how to confirm ur ticket is correctly Baoed. it won't print Bao.
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street term for i-perm is ibox, just say to the auntie at counter.
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post Apr 6 2017, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(lfw @ Apr 6 2017, 10:41 AM)
are you a mathematician? laugh.gif

i'm also trying to analyze the pattern, so far manage to get a little bit of 899-X, 889-X, 990-X (i-perm of course) usually come out in every draw...this is for Magnum 4D.
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almost all have similar calculations method.
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Lyu @ Apr 6 2017, 09:31 AM)
To get exact price , u need to increase ur min bet to 24RM else the prize will be 1/24 due to 24 combination of numbers
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in the license 4d seller... there is no way to buy lesser than RM1
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:48 AM

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not my ticket
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(lfw @ Apr 7 2017, 10:48 AM)
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special prize dia pun mau kecoh ke? somemore only rm1 and bao.. total prize will be less than 50 i think


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post Apr 7 2017, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(lfw @ Apr 7 2017, 10:48 AM)
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not my ticket
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That guy stupid or what? Buy perm with same number but different arrangement. Might as well just buy 1 perm n put rm3 on it
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post Apr 7 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Apr 7 2017, 10:51 AM)
That guy stupid or what? Buy perm with same number but different arrangement. Might as well just buy 1 perm n put rm3 on it
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maybe buy for different people?
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post Apr 7 2017, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Apr 7 2017, 10:51 AM)
special prize dia pun mau kecoh ke? somemore only rm1 and bao.. total prize will be less than 50 i think
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He will get RM50 for that.

200/12 = 16.6 X 3 = 49.8 roundup to RM50
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post Apr 11 2017, 12:02 PM

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so i need to know

if real people can really win millions

or just gimmick, they take friends n relatives or staff to do a show of ppl winning to encourage ppl buying?
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post Apr 11 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Petre @ Apr 11 2017, 12:02 PM)
so i need to know

if real people can really win millions

or just gimmick, they take friends n relatives or staff to do a show of ppl winning to encourage ppl buying?
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No solid evidence, but i'm sure there will be legit people winning the big prize.

however there might be few doubts (technically possible):

1.If only 1 or few legit buyers won a jackpot, they might add in more "Winning Tickets" to split up the jackpots so they pay less money

2.For those 6/XX Jackpot the probability is very low, so it might be possible to use this as an exploit for a "Favored Payout" for many reasons.

Technically with a complex draw machine, you can actually get the exact number you want to draw out, for example set each ball with special magnets, or weight that is hard to tell from hand but easily detected by machine etc, and use a software to compute out the numbers that will output the lowest overall payouts. there will still be many people winning due to the amount of bets placed.

3.to win big claims you have to fulfill all the T&C, legit ticket, legit age, non-muslim, Ticket must be in good condition etc.


Not sure about the claim time limit how it is affected by Jackpots (since Jackpot gets claimed by new winners what happens to old winners?)

I've heard stories of neighbors winning big prize (they never say), but suddenly instant financial success, open own big company etc.

In overseas like Singapore & USA where fraud is harder to do, i think it's possible to win Big in malaysia legitimately.
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post Apr 11 2017, 12:36 PM

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if you are over 21 & non-Muslim, you can view or participate in the draw every Wed/Sat/Sun 7pm 13th floor Berjaya Timesquare, and sometimes Tuesday 7pm special draw.

This post has been edited by advocado: Apr 11 2017, 12:36 PM
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post Apr 11 2017, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Agent X @ Apr 11 2017, 12:38 PM)
can take picture or not ??video ??
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not sure. i don't see why cannot. bring a phone if can snap few pics lo. if cannot just tell us what u saw.
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post Apr 11 2017, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Agent X @ Apr 11 2017, 12:38 PM)
can take picture or not ??video ??
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no any device can take in

i been b4

tis 4d toto magnum & damacai all is lucky win

your luck good u will win

its random pick number

u can be how good in math but cant beat 4d all

dont waste your time & money

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post Apr 11 2017, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(donfutsal @ Apr 11 2017, 12:48 PM)
no any device can take in

i been b4

tis 4d toto magnum & damacai all is lucky win

your luck good u will win

its random pick number

u can be how good in math but cant beat 4d all

dont waste your time & money

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how you know? like i said, if billions are involved, i'm sure you can set the machine to draw the numbers you want, if it's machine picked. every ball can have unique ID only the machine can tell, maybe a chip inside, weight etc.

of course if the ball is hand grabbed by some random guess then it leaves little room for cheating.
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post Apr 11 2017, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 5 2017, 03:30 PM)
what do you mean by bao?

prize goes by per bet, unless it's jackpot related. for prize some has maximum payout so if too many people win exceed the limit they will only get a share on it depending on their bet.

for jackpot it's shared if there is multiple winner.
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Do you know the red number?红字。how many money after buy,then they decline to accept more bets?????


For 4d game.
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post Apr 11 2017, 12:52 PM

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post Apr 11 2017, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 11 2017, 12:50 PM)
how you know? like i said, if billions are involved, i'm sure you can set the machine to draw the numbers you want, if it's machine picked. every ball can have unique ID only the machine can tell, maybe a chip inside, weight etc.

of course if the ball is hand grabbed by some random guess then it leaves little room for cheating.
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how i noe ? i had been b4 at berjaya myself thumbup.gif

go & c 1st den u will understand

its nothing to do with the machine or chip inside cuz its pure luck game

i guess u watch too much of movie doh.gif



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post Apr 11 2017, 12:58 PM

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duh magic tricks can also be very convincing.
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post Apr 11 2017, 01:16 PM

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U buy from car ekaiden or random?
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QUOTE(donfutsal @ Apr 11 2017, 12:57 PM)
how i noe ? i had been b4 at berjaya myself  thumbup.gif

go & c 1st den u will understand

its nothing to do with the machine or chip inside cuz its pure luck game

i guess u watch too much of movie  doh.gif
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Can explain how the draw process? The machine/system generate some random number? Or their staff randomly pick up some numbers?

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