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cheekiat95
post Jan 8 2018, 05:11 PM

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Hi, I have some questions here can anyone of you help me out?

1. How long does it takes for Makhamah Rayuan to translate Certificate of Good Conduct? Can it be completed in a day?

2. Knew that appointment can be made for certification at Chinese Consular, if I were to make an appointment, can the certification be done in the same day?

3. Certification at KPT and KLN can complete in a day?


Sorry I have to check for the turn-around time as boss dont let me take too much leave for doing this and so time is quite crucial for me.

Much appreciated notworthy.gif
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post Jan 17 2018, 02:05 AM

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Guys I'm an upcoming fresh graduate soon from the US. I applied to a big company in China and they look very interested in hiring me after an interview.

Problem is how much should I ask for starting salary in shenzhen, China? Really no clue on what their salary range is. My current salary is around 2k usd part time.

They require someone who can speak fluent English and Chinese and have an engineering background and all which I have.

Thanks
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post Jan 23 2018, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(calodin @ Jan 1 2016, 11:17 PM)
I've been searching for information regarding the step by step process of getting a Z visa for China. The info on how to get the Z visa is quite direct, but the amount of documentation that is needed to get the "Alien Employment Permit" which enables you to get the Z visa is astounding.

Since I had to find info from various sources and also a lot of trial and error, I would like to list down step by step what you need to do.

In order to get the "Alien Employment Permit", in my case, I am working for a multinational company and posted to China, so normally your company will ask a specialized company to handle your application for the work permit, they will email to you what are the requirements, in my case, it is:

1. Evaluation Form -
this form is just a form that you will need to fill with your info, with a passport size photograph with white background.

2. Reference letter -
this letter is a letter from your ex company saying that what position you held in the company and for how long. Must be in official company letterhead and it must show you have more than 2 years working experience.

3. Top Academic Cert -
Meaning, if you have a Uni Degree, use that, if have Masters Degree, use that. Please note that you need to photocopy and get the photocopy certified by "Kementerian Luar Negeri" (certified 1 copy is RM 10.00) and the link is http://www.kln.gov.my/web/guest/home. But do not do it now, wait until you get the "Letter of Good Conduct" please read below

Update## You need to get the chop from Kementerian Pengajian Tinggi (http://jpt.mohe.gov.my/) before you take your cert to be certified at KLN. Please take note, you need to have the chop dates in order like that, KPT chop first then only KLN chop

4. Non criminal record certificate or otherwise known as "Letter of Good Conduct". You need to register as an ekonsular user here  https://ekonsular.kln.gov.my/en/ and then apply for the "Letter of Good Conduct" online. You will need to scan a copy of a passport size photo. It says it will take 1 to 2 months but actually, it will take around 10-14 days. You need to always log into your account to check the status. Once ready you have to go to KLN to collect the letter which will be RM 20.

After you get the "Letter of Good Conduct", head over to Makamah Persekutuan (http://www.kehakiman.gov.my/node/178). Go to second floor to the
Makamah Rayuan and there you can get your "Letter of Good Conduct" and your "University Degree Cert" translated to chinese. Make photo copies of the
original documents (Letter of Good Conduct, University Degree and the translation). Go back to KLN and have all the photocopies certified as true copies.

You think you are done? Not yet...you still need to download this form (http://kuching.chineseconsulate.org/eng/lsfw/fd/P020111102508077558930.pdf) or (http://kuching.chineseconsulate.org/eng/lsfw/leg/P020131128607046329977.pdf) I have no idea why got 2 different forms, so to be on safe side, i filled up both. After that go to the Chinese Consular at Plaza OSK (http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/ce/cemy/eng/sgxx/t174883.htm) to get your "Letter of Good Conduct" and University Degree" authenticated (4 documents x RM 80 = RM 320). Please take note they only open from 9am to 11.00am. 4 days later come collect.
5. Health Screening -
I only found one Hospital that actually provides a package for Health Screening for China visa application purposes which is Tung Shin Hospital (http://www.tungshin.com.my/packages/health-screening-packages/). You need to download and print out the form, bring 2 passport size photograph in white background for the screening (https://www.visaforchina.org/MEL_EN/generalinformation/downloads/270951.shtml). The screening will cost around RM 400 and the report will take 3 days to process and available for pickup
After you get all the required documents, scan and send it to the people that is helping you apply for the Alien Work Permit, after which, they will email to you the permit and you will need to use the permit to apply for Z visa. This one you can ask any tour agent to do for you, they will know what to do.

I hope at least me going thru all those running around, I write my experience here hope I can save other people a lot of time instead of running around like a blind fly.
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Can i have more details on the chop from Kementerian Pengajian Tinggi for the degree cert? Can i know where should i go or who should i look for?
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post Jan 23 2018, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(wayne91 @ Jan 23 2018, 02:54 PM)
Can i have more details on the chop from Kementerian Pengajian Tinggi for the degree cert? Can i know where should i go or who should i look for?
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To get the chop from Kementerian Pengajian Tinggi....you need to go to...Kementerian Pengajian Tinggi lar...go to recept and tell you want to get photocopy of your cert certified

http://www.mohe.gov.my/hubungi-kami/alamat-dan-lokasi
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post Jan 24 2018, 05:50 PM

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Great write up TS. Thank you for sharing.
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post Jan 25 2018, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(wayne91 @ Jan 23 2018, 02:54 PM)
Can i have more details on the chop from Kementerian Pengajian Tinggi for the degree cert? Can i know where should i go or who should i look for?
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I just went KPT today. You need to bring letter of proof from your university to proof that you studied and graduated. Bring also your original degree cert. Go to KPT, enter through main entrance, then turn right and look for helpdesk 6. Letter of proof IS A MUST, without that the office wont chop for you even you bring your ori cert.
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post Jan 25 2018, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(sheldonyong @ Jan 17 2018, 02:05 AM)
Guys I'm an upcoming fresh graduate soon from the US. I applied to a big company in China and they look very interested in hiring me after an interview.

Problem is how much should I ask for starting salary in shenzhen, China? Really no clue on what their salary range is. My current salary is around 2k usd part time.

They require someone who can speak fluent English and Chinese and have an engineering background and all which I have.

Thanks
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The minimum requirement to get China work permit is 2 years of working experience in related field.
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post Jan 25 2018, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(cheekiat95 @ Jan 25 2018, 04:05 PM)
I just went KPT today. You need to bring letter of proof from your university to proof that you studied and graduated. Bring also your original degree cert. Go to KPT, enter through main entrance, then turn right and look for helpdesk 6. Letter of proof IS A MUST, without that the office wont chop for you even you bring your ori cert.
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Are you graduated from oversea university? Because i went today morning as well. The officer just get my IC and original certificate to check something on their system then they chopped "Certified True Copy" with date for me. Are we having the same chop? biggrin.gif btw im graduated from Multimedia University which is local private U.
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post Jan 25 2018, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(cheekiat95 @ Jan 25 2018, 05:20 PM)
The minimum requirement to get China work permit is 2 years of working experience in related field.
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'related' as long as intern or part time qualifies too and not to worry visa is not a problem, company told me that but I'm not sure what salary range to nego..

This post has been edited by sheldonyong: Jan 25 2018, 10:20 PM
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post Jan 26 2018, 10:38 AM

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Guys I just came back from the Chinese Consulate. They said that in addition to my degree, which was certified by KLN and KPT, they require a letter from my university stating that i attended and graduated from there. The guy was questioning where i studied. I studied at Monash University in Sunway. He seems particular about the location whether Malaysia or Australis. Does it matter? Monash told me it takes them 3 - 5 working days to produce the letter which will cause a delay.

Just want to know if anybody came across this problem.
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post Jan 26 2018, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(fuzz82 @ Jan 26 2018, 10:38 AM)
Guys I just came back from the Chinese Consulate. They said that in addition to my degree, which was certified by KLN and KPT, they require a letter from my university stating that i attended and graduated from there. The guy was questioning where i studied. I studied at Monash University in Sunway. He seems particular about the location whether Malaysia or Australis. Does it matter? Monash told me it takes them 3 - 5 working days to produce the letter which will cause a delay.

Just want to know if anybody came across this problem.
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I also just came back from consulate just now. The guy that servicing me didn't requested letter from me, but KPT is the one which requested the letter from me.
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post Jan 26 2018, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(wayne91 @ Jan 25 2018, 06:03 PM)
Are you graduated from oversea university? Because i went today morning as well. The officer just get my IC and original certificate to check something on their system then they chopped "Certified True Copy" with date for me. Are we having the same chop? biggrin.gif btw im graduated from Multimedia University which is local private U.
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Nope. I graduated from UTAR. That officer insisted to get the letter proof from my UNI bangwall.gif

Then I called my uni and they prepared the letter and send me thru email. I show her and then she only chop for me bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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post Jan 26 2018, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(sheldonyong @ Jan 25 2018, 10:18 PM)
'related' as long as intern or part time qualifies too and not to worry visa is not a problem, company told me that but I'm not sure what salary range to nego..
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IKR. But the permit is tough to get now. My employer in China told me it is better to have 2 years of working experiences before applying for permit as they are very strict in this now. Btw are you working in China now?
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post Jan 26 2018, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(cheekiat95 @ Jan 26 2018, 11:00 AM)
I also just came back from consulate just now. The guy that servicing me didn't requested letter from me, but KPT is the one which requested the letter from me.
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Can i know how much the Consulate charge to certify each document?
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post Jan 26 2018, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(wayne91 @ Jan 26 2018, 12:31 PM)
Can i know how much the Consulate charge to certify each document?
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RM164.80 per copy. rclxub.gif
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post Jan 26 2018, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(cheekiat95 @ Jan 26 2018, 01:24 PM)
RM164.80 per copy.  rclxub.gif
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omg. how many copies you certified? 4 ? Degree Cert (chinese, english) and Certificate of Good Conduct (chinese, english) ?
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post Jan 26 2018, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(wayne91 @ Jan 26 2018, 03:20 PM)
omg. how many copies you certified? 4 ? Degree Cert (chinese, english) and Certificate of Good Conduct (chinese, english) ?
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I certify 3 copies. My degree cert is bilingual. Super expensive tho but I will try to claim from my employer haha icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 26 2018, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(cheekiat95 @ Jan 26 2018, 12:10 PM)
IKR. But the permit is tough to get now. My employer in China told me it is better to have 2 years of working experiences before applying for permit as they are very strict in this now. Btw are you working in China now?
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No not yet, waiting for graduation and offer letter.. sad.gif
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post Mar 8 2018, 08:51 AM

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Hi all, if I got total of 2 year working experience in the related field ,but none of the position I stay more than 2 year.. Is it possible to apply the Z visa?

And any. Net developer job in china ? Thanks
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post Apr 1 2018, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(welcome27 @ Mar 8 2018, 08:51 AM)
Hi all,  if I got total of 2 year working experience in the related field ,but none of the position I stay more than 2 year.. Is it possible to apply the Z visa?

And any. Net developer job in china ? Thanks
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As long as your working experience gained after your GRADUATED DATE as mentioned on your academic certificate is more than 2 years then it should be ok. Do get your letter proof of working duration from your previous employers with clearly mentioned the working period in each respective company that you served.

I failed to get my Z visa due to the graduation date (convo date was mentioned on my cert but in fact i started working 4 months before my convo), even if i have sufficient working experiences. End up I have to use the other visa (M visa) with limited duration of stay to be able to "trade" in china now. Using travel visa to work in china is a BIG NO, dont even try to think of it.

This post has been edited by cheekiat95: Apr 1 2018, 12:14 AM

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