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From previous Military Thread V23

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Looks like the UK is testing the Nexter Caesar 6x6 155mm SPH.
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RSAF's new drone Heron 1 now combat-ready
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Prostitutes, luxury hotel stays: More US navy officials charged with corruption in new 'Fat Leonard' indictment
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US Approves $66 Million Sale of Mortar Rounds to Singapore
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North Korea's threat 'more real than before'
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Military wins in first Trump budget
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Cambodia reluctant to repay US war debt
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Someone shot down a $200 drone with a $3M Patriot missile
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IDEX 2017: K21 Infantry Fighting Vehicle

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SHAH ALAM: The Beechcraft B200T M41-03 crash late last year has been classified as a training hazard. Deputy Defence Minister Datuk Seri Johari Baharum told the Dewan Rakyat today (March 16) that an investigation into the Dec. 21 crash had ruled out technical issues as the cause of the crash.
Full article available at Malaysian Defence.

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Successful Brimstone weapon integration flight trials continue for Typhoon

13 Mar 2017

A further series of flight trials of Eurofighter Typhoon with the low-collateral, high precision MBDA Brimstone air-to-surface weapon have been successfully completed at BAE Systems’ site in Warton, Lancashire.

The trials are part of ongoing development work on the Phase 3 Enhancement (P3E) package for Typhoon, which will also deliver further sensor and mission system upgrades as part of Project CENTURION  – the programme to ensure a smooth transition of Tornado capabilities on to Typhoon for the Royal Air Force by the end of 2018.

The trials were conducted using the UK Typhoon Instrumented Production Aircraft (IPA) 6, and formed part of work to gather air data on the weapon, measure environmental effects and expand the carriage envelope. Firing trials are now scheduled for later this year.
Full article available at BAE Systems Newsroom.
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Gripen E on target for debut flight in second quarter

5 March, 2017
By: Craig Hoyle

London: Saab’s Gripen E remains on course to make its flight debut during the second quarter of this year, as the Swedish manufacturer steps up its sales efforts for the new-generation fighter and its earlier C/D-standard variant.

Confirming that lead prototype aircraft 39-8 will get airborne before the end of the second quarter, head of Gripen Jerker Ahlqvist says: “So far, everything is going according to plan, and it looks really promising.” Deliveries of the GE Aviation F414-powered jet will start in 2019 for the Swedish air force, followed by aircraft for export customer Brazil.

Low-speed taxi tests with the Gripen E commenced at Saab’s Linköping production site late last year, and Ahlqvist says the company is currently validating its software in preparation for the first flight. Aircraft 39-8 is currently in ground test, while the second of its eventual three prototypes has entered final assembly.
Full article available at Flightglobal.com.



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Malaysia-Indonesia-Philippine joint maritime patrols in Sulu Sea to start in April

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Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines will commence joint patrols in the Sulu Sea in April, potentially putting an end to decades of lawlessness in the resource-rich waters.

Speaking to Channel NewsAsia in an exclusive interview on Tuesday (Mar 14), Malaysia's navy chief, Admiral Ahmad Kamarulzaman, said the cooperation is unprecedented and reflects the level of trust and confidence among the three nations.

"We first discussed it a year ago and now, we are looking at launching our first joint operation from Sandakan sometime next month," said Admiral Ahmad. "The three navies of Malaysia, Indonesia and Philippines will be working together.

"This is unique in the sense that not very often can you achieve this level of consensus, showing that all sides are serious in mitigating the challenges at sea especially due to kidnap for ransom and other cross-border crime."

The initiative in the Sulu Sea will involve not just maritime patrols, but also air patrols of the waters and coastline, said Admiral Ahmad. It is modelled after the current multilateral patrols in the Strait of Malacca that have successfully lowered the number of piracy cases reported to "almost zero", the navy chief stated.

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has also given Malaysia and Indonesia the green light for the "hot pursuit" of militant boats in Philippine waters. He said that if authorities in Malaysia identify militant vessels, they can chase them even into Philippine waters.

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Boeing, US government sign US$3.4 billion deal for AH-64E Apache helicopters

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REUTERS: Boeing Co said on Thursday it had signed a US$3.4 billion contract with the U.S. government through which the U.S. Army and an international customer will buy the latest Apache attack helicopter - the Apache 'E' variant.

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The Army will get 244 re-manufactured Apaches while the international customer will receive 24 new ones, the company said in a statement. http://bit.ly/2nfcHe6.

Boeing did not name the international customer.

(Reporting by Vishal Sridhar in Bengaluru; Editing by Sandra Maler)

- Reuters

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 17 2017, 09:04 AM)
Pak arab? Indon?

Boeing, US government sign US$3.4 billion deal for AH-64E Apache helicopters

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REUTERS: Boeing Co said on Thursday it had signed a US$3.4 billion contract with the U.S. government through which the U.S. Army and an international customer will buy the latest Apache attack helicopter - the Apache 'E' variant.

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The Army will get 244 re-manufactured Apaches while the international customer will receive 24 new ones, the company said in a statement. http://bit.ly/2nfcHe6.

Boeing did not name the international customer.

(Reporting by Vishal Sridhar in Bengaluru; Editing by Sandra Maler)

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Malaysia ?

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Malaysia can't use Apache ..... some module from Israel. laugh.gif
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Malaysia can't use Apache ..... some module from Israel.  laugh.gif
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err, some computers, medical equipment and treatment are developed by Israel , so how ? Its not a valid argument. Msia don't have an attack heli, msia does need some. Its either American apache, kiowa or Russian night hunter or alligator.
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Air strikes on north Syria mosque kill 42

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BEIRUT: At least 42 people were killed and dozens more wounded on Thursday (Mar 16) in air strikes on a village mosque in northern Syria, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

"The raids by unidentified warplanes targeted a mosque in Aleppo province during evening prayers, killing 42 people, most of them civilians," said the head of the Britain-based Observatory Rami Abdel Rahman.

"More than 100 people were wounded," he said, adding that many were still trapped under the collapsed mosque in the village of Al-Jineh, just over 30 kilometres west of Aleppo.

The village is held by rebel and Islamist groups, but no militant factions are present.

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Rescue workers struggled to pull survivors from rubble, and dozens of residents were still unaccounted for, the Observatory said.

Footage published by Halab Today, an online media group focused on news in Aleppo, showed piles of rubble where the mosque allegedly stood.

More than 320,000 people have been killed in Syria since the conflict began six years ago with anti-government protests.

A cessation of hostilities was brokered by rebel backer Turkey and regime ally Russia in December, but violence has continued across much of the country.

The Observatory, which relies on a network of sources inside Syria for its information, says it determines whose planes carry out raids according to type, location, flight patterns and munitions used.

But the skies over Aleppo province are busy, with Syrian regime and Russian warplanes as well as US-led coalition aircraft carrying out air strikes.

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Russia began a military intervention in Syria in September 2015, and in the past has dismissed allegations of civilian deaths in its strikes.

The US-led coalition, meanwhile, has been bombing militant groups in Syria since 2014.

The US-led coalition fighting IS said earlier this month that its raids in Iraq and Syria had unintentionally killed at least 220 civilians since 2014. Critics say the real number is much higher.

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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Mar 17 2017, 09:33 AM)
err, some computers, medical equipment and treatment are developed by Israel , so how ? Its not a valid argument. Msia don't have an attack heli, msia does need some. Its either American apache, kiowa or Russian night hunter or alligator.
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no choice, need carefully, later some people can used for hu-ha in politic
we already order MD530G light attack helicopter. laugh.gif
we nearly get Tiger few year ago.

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err, some computers, medical equipment and treatment are developed by Israel , so how ? Its not a valid argument. Msia don't have an attack heli, msia does need some. Its either American apache, kiowa or Russian night hunter or alligator.
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Rumours its the Saudi. As a few other Arab state has bought the E also.
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Malaysia can't use Apache ..... some module from Israel.  laugh.gif
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we already use JHMCS for hornet... JHMCS is half israelis.... biggrin.gif
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Boeing, US government sign US$3.4 billion deal for AH-64E Apache helicopters

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Its for Saudi.

Boeing gets $3.2B for Apache sales to Saudi Arabia

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Singapore's Heron 1 UAV reaches full operational capability

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
16 March 2017

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The Republic of Singapore Air Force's Heron 1 UAV, at the ceremony marking full operational capability. Source: IHS Markit/Ridzwan Rahmat

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* The Republic of Singapore Air Force has declared full operational capability on the Heron 1 unmanned aerial vehicle
* Platform enhances Singapore intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities, including in non-conventional operations

The Republic of Singapore Air Force has declared full operational capability on the Heron 1 unmanned aerial vehicle

Platform enhances Singapore intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities, including in non-conventional operations

The Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) has attained full operational capability (FOC) on its fleet of IAI Heron 1 medium-altitude long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).

A ceremony to mark the milestone, officiated by the country's Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen, was held on 15 March at the service's UAV Command in Murai Camp. The aircraft are operated across the RSAF's 119 and 128 squadrons, and was first inaugurated by the service in May 2012 to progressively replace the service's fleet of Searcher UAVs that entered service in the mid-1990s.

"The Heron 1 can be deployed with fighters and attack helicopters, amplifying the SAF's precision strike capabilities," said Ng, during his speech at the ceremony to mark the FOC. "Apart from these conventional operations, it can also be deployed against terrorist threats, because its persistence enables it to cover a wide area of surveillance," he added.

The Heron 1 features an overall length of 8.8 m, a wingspan of 16.6 m, a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 1,100 kg, and a payload capacity of 250 kg. With an endurance of more than 24 hours, the platform can attain a maximum operating range of about 200 km, and achieve cruise speeds of between 60 and 70 kt.

According to the RSAF, its Heron 1s have each been equipped with electro-optical infrared (EO/IR) turret and a laser designator to assist with target acquisitions, including when operating in tandem with the RSAF's fighter aircraft and attack helicopters.


http://www.janes.com/article/68759/singapo...onal-capability
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Four French Caesar SPHs involved in the battle of #Mosul against ISIS 22 destruction missions last week.


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QUOTE(miuk @ Mar 17 2017, 01:16 AM)
Your problem wont be the plane but rather the pilot  tongue.gif

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Back in the day it was the Caribous and Charlies.... zaman 80-an. Took that to Tioman a few times. Comes with a blue box with fried chicken and telur
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My blue box meal just comes with a bread and mineral water. and some sweet candies

Anyway, took the mistake of sitting next to the propeller on the Hercules. Habis pekak lepas mendarat
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Japan Largest Warship To Be Deployed To South China Sea



Japan plans to deploy its largest warship, Helicopter Destroyer LZUMO, on a three-month tour through the South China Sea beginning in May, three sources said, in its biggest show of naval force in the region since World War Two.

The LZUMO helicopter carrier, commissioned only two years ago, will make stops in Singapore, Indonesia, the Philippines and Sri Lanka before joining the Malabar joint naval exercise with Indian and U.S. naval vessels in the Indian Ocean in July.

The Izumo-class helicopter destroyer or 22DDH is a type of new helicopter carrier class constructed for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF). The ships of this class will be the largest surface combatants of the JMSDF.

The ship carries up to 28 aircraft. However, only 7 ASW helicopters and 2 search and rescue (SAR) helicopters are planned for the initial aircraft complement. For other operations, 400 troops and 50 3.5 ton trucks (or equivalent equipment) can also be carried. The flight deck has 5 helicopter landing spots that allow simultaneous landings or take-offs. The ship is equipped with 2 Phalanx CIWS and 2 SeaRAM for its defense.

Japan wants to invite Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte, who has pushed ties with China in recent months as he has criticised the old alliance with the United States, to visit the Izumo when it visits Subic Bay, about 100 km (62 miles) west of Manila. President Rodrigo Duterte said he’ll visit if he has time.

Japan warship deployment comes as the United States under President Donald Trump appears to be taking a tougher line with China. Washington has criticised China's construction of man-made islands and a build-up of military facilities that it worries could be used to restrict free movement.
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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Mar 17 2017, 09:33 AM)
err, some computers, medical equipment and treatment are developed by Israel , so how ? Its not a valid argument. Msia don't have an attack heli, msia does need some. Its either American apache, kiowa or Russian night hunter or alligator.
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There are more dedicated attack helicopters than those that you list.

Also, basic attack missions apart from anti-tank duties can also be taken by armed helicopters. They may not be as capable, but they are much cheaper, have basic observation & targeting capabilities, and are definitely better than nothing.

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Is Israel imposing 'apartheid' on Palestinians?



The UN Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia has issued a report which condemned the Israeli government for its treatment of Palestinians.

It says Israel is violating three international laws that list apartheid as a crime against humanity.

The authors call Israel an apartheid regime, saying it operates a system of divide and rule.

But the office of the UN Secretary General has distanced itself from the report.

And the Israeli government says it's an attempt to smear the only 'true democracy' in the Middle East.

So, will this UN report help or hinder the cause of the Palestinians?


Turkey about to buy S-400 from Russia?



Turkey has announced its wish to obtain Russia’s loan to buy weapons, including S-400 (NATO reporting name: SA-21 Growler) air defense missile systems, Rostec state corporation CEO Sergey Chemezov told the Rossiya-24 TV channel on Tuesday.

Turkish Defense Minister said that Ankara and Moscow made certain progress in talks on delivery of Russian-made S-400 air defense systems to Turkey, but the sides are still not ready to strike a deal.
"The Russian S-400 system will not be integrated into NATO missile defense system," the Turkish defense minister said, RIA Novosti reported.


Kosovo's president plans to build a national army




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Funny Comparison American Jets Vs Russian Jets




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we already use JHMCS for hornet... JHMCS is half israelis.... biggrin.gif
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that is buy long time ago ...
now our country politic "confrontation" is serious, any new military procurement also can be hu-ha even some politician just hu-ha just base on rumors news.
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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Mar 17 2017, 09:33 AM)
err, some computers, medical equipment and treatment are developed by Israel , so how ? Its not a valid argument. Msia don't have an attack heli, msia does need some. Its either American apache, kiowa or Russian night hunter or alligator.
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Only if we want to kill tanks in certain terrain
1stly our security concerns are different and 2ndly our terrain is different

For our kind of insurgent or sampan hunting Apache is overkill

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Malaysia never a fan of Apache

Seems like we used to be gossiped with the Rooivalk (TD Rejected the idea)
the Tiger and for some time the Zulu Cobra

I too like Zulu Cobra
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Mar 17 2017, 12:19 PM)
My blue box meal just comes with a bread and mineral water. and some sweet candies

Anyway, took the mistake of sitting next to the propeller on the Hercules. Habis pekak lepas mendarat
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Understand how You felt. But they don't issue you with ear plug?. I got chance to take the Charlie, Skyvan and huey for joy ride. Huey was fun, but charlie was the crazies. Pilot training mock landing.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 17 2017, 02:43 PM)
Malaysia never a fan of Apache

Seems like we used to be gossiped with the Rooivalk (TD Rejected the idea)
the Tiger and for some time the Zulu Cobra

I too like Zulu Cobra
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Malaysia should have more MDs. One squadron for each division. The full attack helicopter like apache or zulu only tag with the main armour brigade. More efficient. Also the Md can be use for specops.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 17 2017, 02:43 PM)
Malaysia never a fan of Apache

Seems like we used to be gossiped with the Rooivalk (TD Rejected the idea)
the Tiger and for some time the Zulu Cobra

I too like Zulu Cobra
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Good thing no masuk Rooivalk or Tiger, considering...

QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 17 2017, 02:57 PM)
Malaysia should have more MDs. One squadron for each division. The full attack helicopter like apache or zulu only tag with the main armour brigade. More efficient. Also the Md can be use for specops.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 17 2017, 02:48 PM)
Understand how You felt. But they don't issue you with ear plug?. I got chance to take the Charlie, Skyvan and huey for joy ride. Huey was fun, but charlie was the crazies. Pilot training mock landing.
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earplug is for the weak actually no earplug was provided, so I just use my earphones to damp down the aircraft noise

bila naik A400M rasa heaven, senyap je laugh.gif
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Malaysian defense: Budget hinders military asset procurement

By: Mike Yeo, March 15, 2017

MELBOURNE, Australia — Malaysia’s military continues to struggle to implement plans to recapitalize its assets, as the government’s budget is battered by slow economic growth mainly due to falling oil revenues.

As a result, major procurement programs for the Malaysian Armed Forces have mostly been put on hold even as existing platforms rapidly approach obsolescence. For the Royal Malaysian Air Force, this means that badly needed fighters, trainers, helicopters and maritime patrol aircraft will unlikely be acquired in the short to medium term.

Situated alongside the vital maritime trade routes and the hotly disputed islands of the South China Sea of which it partly claims, Malaysia faces a unique geographical challenge, as its territory is split by the South China Sea into two separate landmasses 365 miles apart at its narrowest point.

This has had the effect of spreading the RMAF thinner, with the service recently moving a squadron of BAE Hawk 108/208 light attack aircraft to eastern Malaysia in response to continuing unrest and lawlessness in neighboring southern Philippines. This has spilled over into Malaysia on a number of occasions in the form of kidnappings and even an armed insurrection in 2013 that necessitated a military operation, including airstrikes by RMAF aircraft, to it put down.

Malaysia’s $3.6 billion 2017 defense budget represented a 13 percent drop from 2016’s budget. And it represents 1.2 percent of gross domestic product, taking defense spending in real terms down to 2002 levels.

The budget includes $104 million to the RMAF for procurement, but as Malaysian defense analyst Dzirhan Mahadzir told Defense News, this will be used to pay for ongoing programs rather than new acquisitions.


Read more: http://www.defensenews.com/articles/malays...set-procurement

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Mar 17 2017, 03:21 PM)
earplug is for the weak actually no earplug was provided, so I just use my earphones to damp down the aircraft noise

bila naik A400M rasa heaven, senyap je  laugh.gif
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bring ur own earplugs la bang. i got 3 pairs in my laptop bag alone. hahahaha
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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Mar 17 2017, 03:28 PM)
bring ur own earplugs la bang. i got 3 pairs in my laptop bag alone. hahahaha
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The only time the MAF provided me with an earplug was during a firepower demonstration.

But it was useless when the Scorpion tank fired that 90mm cannon. That bitch was louder than Pendekar's 125mm cannon laugh.gif

I'm glad now they are changing it to 30mm, much more practical
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MALANGTODAY.NET– TNI Angkatan Laut terus berbenah dengan mendatangkan berbagai alat utama sistem pertahanan (alutsita). Hal tersebut dilakukan untuk menjadikan Korps Marinir berkelas dunia.

KepaIa Staf TNI Angkatan Laut (KSAL) Laksamana TNI, Ade Supandi, mengatakan TNI AL akan terus memodernisasi alat utama sistem persenjataan melalui kebijakan minimum essential force (MEF).

“Untuk melengkapi Korps Marinir agar memiliki postur sebagai marinir yang betul-betul kelas dunia, maka pengadaan kendaraan tempur akan terus ditambah,” jawabnya.

Ia menyebutkan, ada beberapa alutsista yang akan diperbarui di antaranya, mengganti kendaraan tempur tank PT76 buatan 1960 yang sudah tua dengan BMP-3F. Dikutip dari Antara, Ade menyatakan tahun ini BMP-3F akan masuk sekitar 30 unit.

“Kami juga akan lengkapi dengan kapal pengangkut kendaraan artileri BTR. Karena BTR kita sebagian di Lebanon, dari 11 unit baru datang empat unit yang datang,” ujarnya.


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The only time the MAF provided me with an earplug was during a firepower demonstration.

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I wouldn't call 3M cap ayam, but it was insufficient

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3M also got quite a few quality. better use ear muff at that kinda event. a good pair will cost u quite a lot.
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Houthi forces have shot down an Apache helicopter belonging to Saudi Arabia in the Yemeni province of Hudaydah, the pro-Houthi al-Masirah television network reported.

The incident allegedly took place in the Hudaydah’s Bayt al-Faqih district on March 16.

On January 25, Houthi forces downed another Apache helicopter belonging to the Saudi-led coalition in the Dhubab district of the province of Ta’izz.


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Bangladesh Navy has started its journey as a “three-dimensional force” as two submarines were commissioned in its fleet for the first time today (Sunday).

Prime minister Sheikh Hasina formally commissioned the twin submarines named “Nabajatra” and “Joyjatra” in the navy at a colourful ceremony in the Chittagong Naval Berth this noon.

She handed over the “commissioning formans” to the commanding officers of the submarines procured from China and formally unveiled their name plaques as per the rules of the navy.

“With the induction of the submarines, Bangladesh Navy has started its fresh journey with a new shape and strength alongside the progress of the country,” Sheikh Hasina told the commissioning function of two submarines.

The prime minister said a few countries of the world operate submarines, and Bangladesh has been placed in the list from today. “As a nation, it’s a matter of very much honour and dignity for us,” she said.

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Sheikh Hasina expressed her firm belief that the newly-commissioned submarines would play an important role in safeguarding the country’s sovereignty during any crisis period.

“The two submarines have added unprecedented capability to strengthening the defence system to save the country from the aggression of external enemies,” she said.

The prime minister later witnessed an introduction exhibition on achieving capability of a three-dimensional force by the navy with the participation of BN Ship Bangabandhu, two helicopters, two MPAs and an all-round naval commando team.

She also inaugurated various base support facilities constructed for the submarines and laid the foundation stone of BNS Sheikh Hasina, a full-fledged base for the submarines.

A documentary on the long work for the acquisition of the two submarines was screened at the function. A munajat was also offered on the occasion seeking continued peace, progress and prosperity of the nation as well as further development of the armed forces.

Ministers, parliament members, the chiefs of three services, diplomats and high civil and military officials were present on the occasion.
A ship brought Bangladesh’s first submarines to Chittagong Port from China on December 22. Earlier, the submarines were handed over to Bangladesh on November 14.


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On behalf of the Chinese government, Rear Admiral Liu Zizhu handed over the submarines to Bangladesh Navy chief Admiral Mohammad Nizamuddin Ahmed at a function at a Dalian city shipyard in Liaoning province.

The conventional diesel electric submarines are 76 metres in length and 7.6 metres in width and are equipped with torpedoes and mines, which are capable of attacking enemy warships and submarines. The highest speed of the submarines is about 17 nautical miles per hour and their displacement is 1609 tonnes.

The naval personnel of both the countries completed a sea trial and real training to operate the submarines, an ISPR release said.


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Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina says Bangladesh navy enters 'new era' with induction of 2 Chinese-made submarines


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Bangladesh's military has inducted its first ever submarines since the country gained its independence in 1971, the Bangladeshi Defense Ministry announced Sunday.

“First ever in its history, Bangladesh's navy has inducted two submarines ‘BNS Nobojatra’ and ‘BNS Joyjatra’ to its fleet,” the military’s media wing -- the Inter Services Public Relations Directorate -- said in a statement.

Speaking at a handing over ceremony at a naval base in the southeastern port city of Chittagong, Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina said Bangaldesh's navy had now entered “a new era” after the induction of the two Chinese-made 035G diesel-electric submarines.

“This day is very much a special day, not only for Bangladesh navy or Bangladesh armed forces but also for entire Bangladesh,” Hasina added.

The premier later laid the foundation stone of a submarine base in Pekua in the coastal city of Cox’s Bazar.

The 76-metre long and 7.6-metre wide submarines can achieve a top speed of 17 nautical miles per hour, according to the military statement.

Armed with torpedoes and mines, they are able to track and attack enemy ships and submarines, it said.

As part of Bangladeshi governments’ initiatives for reinforcement of its naval forces, the country bought the submarines from China for $203M in November last year, it added.



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Malaysia to send troops to Somalia on humanitarian mission

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia will send troops to Somalia as part of a humanitarian mission following prolonged drought in the country, says Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein.

The Defence Minister said the troops, along with assets, will be sent from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

"The decision (to send the troops) was reached after my meeting with Somalia Deputy Prime Minister Mohamed Omer Arteh Ghalib on Tuesday.

"He (Mohamed Omer) requested the ministry's assistance in providing aid in terms of food, medicine and expertise of the Armed Forces' medical unit," Hishammuddin said in a statement Friday.

He added that Somalia's request was brought to the attention of and approved by the Cabinet Friday.

Hishammuddin said three officers and 17 personnel from the Armed Forces Medical Core will be sent to Somalia.

"An infantry unit, consisting of an officer and 10 men, will provide security for the Malaysian delegation.

"Food and medical supplies will be flown to Somalia via a Hercules C-130 aircraft," he said.

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The Defence Minister said the troops, along with assets, will be sent from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.


Hishammuddin said three officers and 17 personnel from the Armed Forces Medical Core will be sent to Somalia.

"An infantry unit, consisting of an officer and 10 men, will provide security for the Malaysian delegation.


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So, this 31 personnel are part of Malaysian contingent in Saudi...
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So, this 31 personnel are part of Malaysian contingent in Saudi...
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US military action against nuclear-armed North Korea is an "option on the table", Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Friday (Mar 17) after warning the policy of strategic patience with Pyongyang was over.

In strong statements that appear to signal a sea change in American policy towards the isolated country, the United States' top diplomat said North Korea's burgeoning missile and nuclear programmes must be halted.

"Certainly we do not want to, for things to get to military conflict," he told reporters in Seoul, but added: "If they elevate the threat of their weapons programme to a level that we believe requires action, then that option's on the table."

"The policy of strategic patience has ended," Tillerson told a joint press conference with his South Korean counterpart Yun Byung-Se.

"We are exploring a new range of diplomatic, security, economic measures. All options are on the table."

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"Strategic patience" is the term given to the US policy under former President Barack Obama when the United States ruled out engaging the North until it made a tangible commitment to denuclearisation, hoping that internal stresses would bring about change.

Tillerson's visit to Asia -- South Korea is the second leg of the tour -- is his first foray into crisis management.

His remarks on Friday came a day after he said in Tokyo that 20 years of efforts to denuclearise the North had "failed" and promised a new approach.

North Korea has a long-standing ambition to become a nuclear power and conducted its first underground atomic test in 2006, in the teeth of global opposition.

Four more test blasts have followed, two of them last year.

Allowing the North to retain its present level of weapons technology was not appropriate, Tillerson said in Seoul.

"That would leave North Korea with significant capabilities that would represent a true threat."

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The United Nations has imposed multiple sets of sanctions on Pyongyang over its nuclear and missile programmes, but its main diplomatic protector and trade partner China is accused of not fully enforcing them.

Tillerson will be going on to Beijing on Saturday to press it to do more.

"I don't believe we have ever fully achieved the maximum level of action that can be taken under the UN Security Council resolution with full participation of all countries.

"We know that other nations can take actions."

Earlier in the day, Tillerson had visited the Demilitarised Zone dividing the two Koreas to gaze on the North for himself.

Under the glaring eyes of alert North Korean soldiers, Tillerson toured the Panmunjom joint security area, guarded by both North Korea and the US-led United Nations Command since the Korean War ended with an armistice in 1953.

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North Korean soldiers watched from their side of the demarcation line -- marked by cement blocks on the ground. At one point they were only a few feet from Tillerson, with one taking either video or photos.

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there is several existing un mission operating in somalia ady and the un chief did visit the country last week to monitor the worsening food crisis

New U.N. chief confronts the ‘nightmare’ of Somalia’s food crisis
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa...m=.ae6878fce443

'A nightmare:' UN chief urges help for Somalia hunger crisis
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireSt...famine-45955003
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DHAKA: A suicide bomber injured two Bangladeshi police officers on Friday when he attacked a base being built for the police anti-terrorist unit, officials said.

Local media quoting the BBC Bangla service said Islamic State had claimed responsibility for the rare attack on Bangladesh's security services.

Senior Dhaka police official Krishna Pada Roy said police were investigating the incident. It occurred a day after four people linked to a deadly cafe attack in the capital last year were killed when their suicide vests exploded during a raid in the southeastern town of Chittagong.

The injured police officers were taken to Dhaka's military hospital.

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Mufti Mahmud Khan, director of the Rapid Action Battalion (RAB), told reporters that a man aged about 25 had blown himself up when challenged as he tried to enter the police special security force's base, which is still under construction.

Initial evidence suggested he was a member of an extremist group, Khan said.

The bomb was homemade but very powerful, he said. Police had recovered another bomb from inside a bag carried by the bomber.

Police said there could have been many more casualties if the bomber had not struck while most base staff were at the mosque for Friday prayers.

The RAB base is located in a secure area of the capital city, close to several army barracks.

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Civil aviation and police officials said airports and prisons had been put on alert and security stepped up across the country. Interior minister Asaduzzaman Khan said the situation was under control.

Ishfaq Elahi Chowdhury, a retired air commodore and security analyst, said Friday's attack on counter-terrorism forces was "a new dimension" in the fight against Islamist militancy in Bangladesh.

Suicide attacks in the country are rare but there have been major incidents such as the attack in July last year on a Dhaka cafe in which 22 people, mostly foreigners, were killed.

Separately, Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina urged parents on Friday to remain alert to the risk of their children becoming radicalised.

(Editing by Catherine Evans)

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MANILA: The Philippines said on Friday it would strengthen its military facilities on islands and shoals in the disputed South China Sea and announced initial plans to build a new port and pave an existing rough airstrip.

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Defense Minister Delfin Lorenzana had been scheduled to inspect an outpost on Thitu, one of the disputed Spratly Islands, but his trip was canceled because of "safety issues" and he spent the day instead at a military base where he unveiled the development plans.

"We will build a runway and a port, a pier, for our ships" on Thitu, Lorenzana told troops at the Western Command's 41st anniversary. "We are a bit blind in that area."

Thitu is close to Subi Reef, one of seven manmade islands in the Spratlys that China is accused of militarizing with surface-to-air missiles and other armaments.

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The Philippines has squabbled with China for years over the South China Sea, but relations appear to have improved under President Rodrigo Duterte, who was scheduled to meet Chinese Vice Premier Wang Yang in Davao City in the southern Philippines on Friday.

The minister said Duterte had given approval to upgrade facilities not only on Thitu but on the eight other features in the South China Sea it occupies.

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Defense ministry spokesman Arsenio Andolong said landing on a porous runway on Thitu after heavy rains would have been dangerous.

A senior Philippine general said, however, the military also blocked a planned trip by a group of lawmakers to Thitu on Thursday, more because of concern over how China would react.

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"That is a contested area, that is not 100 percent ours," Lieutenant-General Raul del Rosario told a Congressional hearing on Thursday.

"That's why we are concerned if you fly there. Every time an aircraft flies there, it gets a warning and there are times they fire flares towards the aircraft."

The military declined to comment on Rosario's statement.

A fishing community of about 110 people live on Thitu. China has troops on islands it occupies but not civilians.

China claims most of the South China Sea, a strategic waterway through which about $5 trillion of goods passes each year. Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims.

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arshadraji-airdcraftPETALING JAYA: A retired brigadier-general has launched a tirade against the government in the wake of a report that budget cuts are preventing the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) from getting new fighter jets, helicopters and maritime patrol craft.

Speaking to FMT, Mohd Arshad Raji said the government’s inability to maintain the integrity of the armed forces gave a clear sign that the nation was “in trouble”.

“In modern warfare, the air force plays a vital role,” he said. “When air superiority is lost, the land battle becomes worthless.

“The Malaysian Armed Forces’ preoccupation in times of peace is to train for war. War tactics and techniques are highly dynamic. Any new innovation or invention in the weapons system demands new operational tactics and techniques.”

He said upgrades and the acquisition of new assets were essential to keeping the RMAF abreast with the region’s other air forces.


A nation with obsolete and outdated air force assets would be exposed to aerial threats from potential enemies, he added.

DefenseNews reported yesterday that major procurement programmes for the Malaysian Armed Forces had mostly been put on hold. It said this meant that “badly needed” fighters, trainers, helicopters and maritime patrol aircraft would unlikely be acquired by the RMAF in the short to medium term.

With more kidnappings taking place off Sabah and Sarawak, the RMAF recently moved a squadron of BAE Hawk 108/208 light attack aircraft to East Malaysia.

Concerns have been expressed that the thinning of resources comes amid threats arising from lawlessness in the southern Philippines and China’s aggressive stance on issues over disputed islands in the South China Sea.

The government allocated RM15.1 billion to the Defence Ministry under Budget 2017. Of this, RM1.8 billion is for asset maintenance. DefenseNews noted that the 2017 allocation represented a 13% drop in 2016 budget.

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At 2017 AUSA Global Force, ST Kinetics is offering its Next Gen Armored Fighting Vehicle (NGAFV) to the US Army for the service's Mobile Protected Firepower (MPF). In concept, the MPF is seen as a highly mobile vehicle that is able to accompany and support Infantry Brigade Combat Teams, and aid reconnaissance-in-force missions. The MPF will be a fully tracked armored vehicle light and small enough to negotiate urban areas, and traverse poor roads and bridges in underdeveloped regions of the globe.

Although still in the early stages, the US Army hopes to field an MPF vehicle by the mid-2020s.

The NGAFV has been developed by ST Kinetics and its demonstrator includes the company's HMX3000 fully automatic transmission and CMI's COCKERILL 3000 series turret.

Fully digitised and with the option of drive by wire, the NGAFV is to replace the Singapore Armed Forces' M113A ULTRAs. 

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By: Mike Yeo, March 17, 2017

MELBOURNE, Australia — Malaysia’s centerpiece plan for the restructure and recapitalization of its Navy has also been adversely affected by the country’s budget woes, leaving most of it underfunded or unfunded altogether.

The so-called 15-to-5 plan, unveiled in 2015, calls for a reduction of the Royal Malaysian Navy order of battle from 15 to five classes of ships and submarines, which it hopes will trim sustainment costs by retiring older ships and reducing the number of ship classes operated by the RMN by 2030.

The five ship classes will ideally consist of 12 French-designed littoral combat ships, 18 Kedah-class offshore patrol vessels, 18 Chinese-designed littoral mission ships, three multirole support ships of an as-yet undetermined design and four submarines.

Of these, only six lightly-armed Kedah-class offshore patrol vessels are already in service together with two French Scorpene diesel-electric submarines. Malaysia has also ordered six littoral combat ships based on the French Gowind 2500 design under a $2 billion contract signed in 2011, with two ships in various stages of construction at Malaysia’s Boustead Naval Shipyard.


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gee, just look at the equipment list of Malaysian Arm Forces ...

memang rojak, source from so many countries, to stock the spare parts alone already cost the tax payers heaps sad.gif

the sad thing about this is, small firearms also can not produce locally, now that is a drawback for arms industry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_..._Malaysian_Army

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Yes, Malaysian armed force had rojak equipment and vehicle. This is due to the malaysian government policy. 1. To keep the companies like Boustead a life.
2. Buying more asean countries weapon. Country like thailand, singapore and indonesia. Most probably the MPSS ship will be from indonesia.
3. TOT with the licence to sell to the region.
As for self made weapon , malaysia will be replacing all service pistol with your local made and design one
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though its not actually ak47 but its a chinese copy type81

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this one?

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And the scope sight, seriously?

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Damn, LP06 looks like shit, and from the look, it probably feel like shit

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gee, just look at the equipment list of Malaysian Arm Forces ...

memang rojak, source from so many countries, to stock the spare parts alone already cost the tax payers heaps sad.gif

the sad thing about this is, small firearms also can not produce locally, now that is a drawback for arms industry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_..._Malaysian_Army

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Yes, Malaysian armed force had rojak equipment and vehicle. This is due to the malaysian government policy. 1. To keep the companies like Boustead a life.
2. Buying more asean countries weapon. Country like thailand, singapore and indonesia. Most probably the MPSS ship will be from indonesia.
3. TOT with the licence to sell to the region.
As for self made weapon , malaysia will be replacing all service pistol with your local made and design one
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Damn, LP06 looks like shit, and from the look, it probably feel like shit

And the scope sight, seriously?
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 18 2017, 06:52 PM)
Local made and design service pistols?

this one?

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Geopolitical Standoff In Post-ISIS Middle East

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dont la dei... later ppl triggered
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Only the 9mm pistol.
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So only malinnov in production right?

Others LPs tayang only right?

Cause if it's for real, atm sure damn embarrass when carried it around
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QUOTE(TheModerator @ Mar 18 2017, 07:50 PM)
Sumpah tak kesah, if it's shit, it's shit!
So only malinnov in production right?
Others LPs tayang only right?
Cause if it's for real, atm sure damn embarrass when carried it around
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nope there is no plan to change anything
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Bro like i say its only the malinnov pistol. The other gun are from different company. Those Lp series gun don't even clear ATM. For malinnov you can check in the net.
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Bro like i say its only the malinnov pistol. The other gun are from different company. Those Lp series gun don't even clear ATM. For malinnov you can check in the net.
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http://aegismalinnov.com

As i said it the pistol. Its up to ATM and PDRM whether they want to use it. As they gun is local produce so its be malaysia market requirement, oversea sales are secondary. Same goes to Singapore ST engineering.
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Hundreds of British troops, tanks and heavy armour are sent to Russia’s border in the biggest show of force against Moscow since the Cold War

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A group of 120 soldiers arrived in Estonia, and 300 vehicles will arrive next week
The eastern European country, who thinks Russia is a threat, asked for the help
Sir Michael Fallon said the soldiers are 'standing up to Russian aggression'
Hundreds of British troops and tanks are on their way to an EU border with Russia in the biggest show of force against Moscow since the Cold War.

An advance guard of some 120 troops touched down last night at an air base in Estonia, a country which borders Russia and sees Moscow as a threat to the West.

Three hundred vehicles will arrive by next week, including Warrior infantry fighting vehicles, Challenger 2 tanks and AS90 artillery weapons.

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Hundreds of British troops and tanks are on their way to the Russian border in the biggest show of force against Moscow since the Cold War. They have touched down in Estonia. Pictured, vehicles being deployed to Poland
120 soldiers have already arrived in the country, with 300 vehicles arriving by the end of next week. Pictured, workers moving vehicles bound for Poland in Germany +9
120 soldiers have already arrived in the country, with 300 vehicles arriving by the end of next week. Pictured, workers moving vehicles bound for Poland in Germany

More troops will follow, bringing the UK total to around 800 by next month – all there at Estonia’s request – as part of a major Nato deployment to Eastern Europe.

Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon said the move was about ‘standing up to Russian aggression’.
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Bro like i say its only the malinnov pistol. The other gun are from different company. Those Lp series gun don't even clear ATM. For malinnov you can check in the net.
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yes ima referring to the malinnov
nothing is set in stone yet so better dun say anything yet

this lima 2017 event malinnov will try to market it to the security agencies so let see how it goes
quality wise if their goal is to have a competitive-shooting quality precision gun then its ady a very good standard lor
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isn't that too heavy and too big for mobility althought it has foldable buttstock ?
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looks good this M1P

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given their defence budget and regional threat the ak-variants still a jack of all trades rifle
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Using AK for marine weapon is no wrong. Its the manner of assaulting the beach. Wherther its using rubber boat, damen aluminium assault boat, CB90 or Seacat M14. After that on how the doctrine is carried out.
The para used the damen aluminium assault boat and rigid boats for their beach assault.
Hope they change to cb90 or the seacat m14 ( t loan from the police) for some exercise.
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the whole channel is also full with fantasy stuff..

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Using AK for marine weapon is no wrong. Its the manner of assaulting the beach. Wherther its using rubber boat, damen aluminium assault boat, CB90 or Seacat M14. After that on how the doctrine is carried out.
The para used the damen aluminium assault boat and rigid boats for their beach assault.
Hope they change to cb90 or the seacat m14 ( t loan from the police) for some exercise.
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all that you see is most likely just for show/demo stuff that suits the audience for a half an hour
their marines doctrine is supposedly modeled and trained by the us marines themselves


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'Pride of the Pacific' trains new Sri Lankan marine corps

Camp Pendleton Marines wrapped up the first official training mission with the newly created Sri Lankan marine corps last week, the latest sign of the U.S. military stepping up engagement in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region.

Sri Lanka stood up its new naval infantry this year with a core force of seven officers and 150 sailors and modeled it on the U.S. Marine Corps, its Navy announced in November.

More than 300 U.S. Marines and sailors with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit spent three days with Sri Lanka's fledgling corps, teaching them basic military skills.

The small island nation off the coast of southern India, Sri Lanka is situated along vital maritime transit routes and can play a important role in maintaining the strategic balance in the region and keep China in check.

Sri Lanka is between a rock and a hard place as India and China vie for regional dominance: historical grievances prevent Sri Lanka from getting too close to India, while aggressive Chinese expansion is seen there as a direct threat to autonomy.

“From Sri Lanka’s perspective, they are too weak to be totally independent, so their hope is to balance India and China in such a way as to not completely lose their autonomy,” explained Sarah Watson, an expert in security dynamics of the Indian Ocean at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

The joint training with the U.S. Marines shows that Sri Lanka is emerging as a “significant contributor” to security of the “maritime superhighways” of the region, U.S. Pacific Command commander Navy Adm. Harry Harris Jr. said in a statement in November.

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PARIS • Security forces shot dead a man who seized a soldier's gun at Paris Orly airport in France yesterday, less than two hours after the same man shot and wounded a police officer during a routine check, the Interior Ministry said.

The incident triggered a major security scare that shut down the airport and left thousands of travellers stranded. It took place at around 8.30am local time (3.30pm Singapore time) in the Orly-Sud terminal at the smaller of Paris' two international airports, located south of the capital.

The man, identified as Ziyed Ben Belgacem in media reports, tried to snatch a gun from a female soldier "in an extremely violent attack" on her before he was shot dead, a French army spokesman said.

Mr Benoit Brulon, a spokesman for France's anti-terror patrol force, said of the female soldier: "She's doing fine."

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Mr Brulon, speaking on BFMTV, said that the female soldier fell to the ground as she struggled with her attacker. "It was then that her comrades opened fire to protect her and people around," he said.

Separately, Interior Ministry spokesman Pierre-Henri Brandet said it was "possible", but had yet to be established, that the incident could be called a terrorist attack.

"There's possibly a terrorist motive, but that's something the justice system will have to ascertain, and it will do so in due time," Mr Brandet told reporters.

Interior Minister Bruno Le Roux said that the slain man had been linked to an earlier attack on police during a routine traffic inspection in the northern suburb of Garges-les-Gonesse at around 7am, in which an officer was slightly wounded in the head.

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He then continued south to steal another car in the suburb of Vitry-sur-Seine about 10km from Orly airport. In Vitry, he also "burst into a bar and threatened those present", Mr Le Roux said.

The Journal du Dimanche said that the suspect, a 39-year-old French citizen, was known for robbery and drug trafficking. His home was searched in 2015, the paper reported. A police source described him as a radicalised Muslim.

The anti-terrorism prosecutor has opened an investigation.

BFMTV, without giving a source, said the attacker had texted his father, saying: "I've screwed up. I've shot a policeman."

Police also searched his house in Garges-les-Gonesse, in the multiethnic Seine-Saint-Denis area.

A witness to the events at the airport told BFMTV that he saw the man in possession of the soldier's rifle and threatening her. "The soldiers were trying to reason with him," he said, adding that as he fled the scene he heard two shots.

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Mr Franck Lecam, a traveller bound for Tel Aviv, said that he heard "three or four shots" nearby as he was queuing to check in.

"There are policemen, emergency workers and soldiers everywhere," he said, after being forced to evacuate the terminal with around 3,000 others.

Air traffic to Orly was suspended and all incoming flights rerouted to Charles de Gaulle airport, in the north of Paris.

Several planes that were preparing for take-off or had just landed in Orly were grounded on the tarmac while the security operation unfolded. Passengers in the nearby Orly-Ouest terminal were confined in the building.

Elite police teams intervened quickly to secure the airport and search it for possible explosives, but none were found.

By early afternoon, Orly-Ouest had reopened and flights had started to resume. Orly-Sud had reopened to incoming flights, but outgoing flights were still suspended.

The incidents come five weeks before France holds presidential elections, and on the second day of an official visit to Paris by Britain's Prince William and his wife Kate.

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Germany owes US, Nato vast sums for defence, Trump tweets

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WASHINGTON • President Donald Trump yesterday tweeted that Germany must pay the United States more for providing defence, less than 24 hours after his first meeting with Chancellor Angela Merkel that highlighted their divides on policy and personality.

"Germany owes vast sums of money to Nato & the United States must be paid more for the powerful, and very expensive, defence it provides to Germany!" Mr Trump tweeted early yesterday.

Mr Trump's messages came less than a day after Dr Merkel, at their joint White House press conference, gently rebuked Mr Trump over his criticisms of her and others on social media. "In the period leading up to this visit, I've always said it's much, much better to talk to one another and not about one another, and I think our conversation proved this," the German leader said through a translator.

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The closely-watched first face-to-face meeting between the two leaders on Friday started awkwardly and ended even more oddly, with a quip by Mr Trump about wiretapping that left the German leader visibly bewildered.

Dr Merkel had arrived at a snowy White House hoping to reverse a chill in relations after Mr Trump's incendiary election rhetoric.

But stark differences between them on everything from trade to immigration were in full view during the meeting.

Their differences led to uncomfortable moments at a joint news conference thereafter.

Though Dr Merkel appeared relaxed, the body language between them was not especially warm.

The visit began cordially, with the two leaders shaking hands at the entrance of the White House.

But later, sitting side-by-side in the Oval Office, Dr Merkel's suggestion of another handshake went unheard or ignored by Mr Trump - an awkward moment in what are usually highly scripted occasions.

She frequently leaned towards him but he stared straight ahead.

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She was stony-faced as Mr Trump ripped into Washington's Nato allies for not paying for their "fair share" for transatlantic defence.

The US President also stood by unproven claims that the Obama administration tapped his phones, and expressed solidarity with a surprised Dr Merkel. "As far as wiretapping, I guess, by this past administration, at least we have something in common," he said to Dr Merkel, who looked bewildered.

In 2013, the German government said it had information that the US may have monitored Dr Merkel's mobile phone, prompting her to call then President Barack Obama to demand clarification.

Mr Trump, who as a presidential candidate had criticised Dr Merkel for allowing hundreds of thousands of refugees into Germany, said immigration was a privilege, not a right.

The German leader hinted at differences, saying: "This is obviously something we had an exchange of views about."

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Despite their differences, observers have said Dr Merkel - who had close relations with Mr Obama and Mr George W. Bush - is likely to seek a strong working relationship with the new US President.

"Those who know the Chancellor know that she has a knack for winning over people in personal discussions. I am sure that Donald Trump will not be immune," said Mr Juergen Hardt, a conservative lawmaker who helps coordinate transatlantic relations for the German government.

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If navy have no money why they funded lms project using their own budget?
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If navy have no money why they funded lms project using their own budget?
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Erm.... because that's the only thing they can afford, they have no money for another 6 Gowinds, 16 Kedah class OPVs, MRSSs, etc.?
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Erm.... because that's the only thing they can afford, they have no money for another 6 Gowinds, 16 Kedah class OPVs, MRSSs, etc.?
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haish... sad.gif if only they outsourced all gowind project to dcns, probably save us some billion and time.
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Mar 19 2017, 04:27 PM)
If navy have no money why they funded lms project using their own budget?
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the better question is, how navy can acquire their own money to fund lms procurement when news said Malaysia no money?

how accurate is this news?

is malaysia no money or defence media trying to speculate so that malaysia gomen feels the heat & later pump up their budget to buy big?

must remember that our current military budget is just 1.2% from total GDP compare to Aussie (2% from GDP), South Korea (2.6% from GDP), & even Singapore (3.2% from GDP)..Malaysia can always increase defence budget if they want to

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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 19 2017, 04:45 PM)
you must not forget how shitty ringgit perform against US dollars in real term, so 1.2% of GDP have to discount by at least 40%
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but still, its a small % of GDP compare to other countries around our region..& buying military stuff doesn't necessarily depend 100% on USD exchange rate..buying defence stuf from China does not put u into USD exchange rate at all..& also buying military stuf does not necessarily must use hard cash..we have bought military stuff without using cash befur..no prob bout that

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Mar 19 2017, 04:42 PM)
the better question is, how navy can acquire their own money to fund lms procurement when news said Malaysia no money?

how accurate is this news?

is malaysia no money or defence media trying to speculate so that malaysia gomen feels the heat & later pump up their budget to buy big?

must remember that our current military budget is just 1.2% from total GDP compare to Aussie (2% from GDP), South Korea (2.6% from GDP), & even Singapore (3.2% from GDP)..Malaysia can always increase defence budget if they want to
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The money the navy is using to buy the 4 ships are navys operational budget. With the lost of 1 lst and ship tranfered to MMEA, they save quite a lot to finance this on buy. As for procurement budget it depend on the finance ministry.
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the better question is, how navy can acquire their own money to fund lms procurement when news said Malaysia no money?

how accurate is this news?
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Has already been discussed: LMS procurement was from Navy's own painfully-saved tabung, and its really tight too so LMS does not have any amazing spec.

For gods sake "no money" doesn't automatically mean muflis until minum air paip doh.gif
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Mar 19 2017, 04:35 PM)
haish...  sad.gif  if only they outsourced all gowind project to dcns, probably save us some billion and time.
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True its cheaper if DCNS to make it. But a Gov will always place local first even its expensive. Benefit come in employment and logistic control.
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 19 2017, 04:54 PM)
Has already been discussed: LMS procurement was from Navy's own painfully-saved tabung, and its really tight too so LMS does not have any amazing spec.

For gods sake "no money" doesn't automatically mean muflis until minum air paip doh.gif
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This is true with the politics in malaysia now. A bad deal will make politic disaster.
Singapore has a higher budget for defence but how much is it for operation use. Don't get us wrongl. For some malaysian we buy to show off but it the reverse. Between f15 and rafale, it cheaper to use the F15 as the F16 is using a common engine. And why a large number of fighter. Even for us we don't know how many fighter are in Singapore. So most of our fighter and training aircraft are station oversea. Its to expensive for them to be station he and fly to US, French, australia etc.
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 19 2017, 04:54 PM)
Has already been discussed: LMS procurement was from Navy's own painfully-saved tabung, and its really tight too so LMS does not have any amazing spec.

For gods sake "no money" doesn't automatically mean muflis until minum air paip doh.gif
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i think its been discussed befur that the budget navy had from their tabung will be enough to get basic hull while the rest (system/radar/weaponary/etc2) will still need budget from ministry

but still, the budget is still so small compare to other countries (key player) around our region..so for my pov, its not becos gomen is short of money like the news reported, but its more about gomen put priority in other development rather than defence for recent budget planning

1.2% from total GDP is too small..even singapore got 3.2% from total GDP

the truth is, we never spend a lot

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so its up to malaysia gomen to set priority level of defence budget

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so its up to malaysia gomen to set priority level of defence budget
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and the priority level, like for everything in Malaysia, is - x% for my pocket, y% for actual armed forces use

before talking about why politikus from other sides don't like to allocate money for armed forces, tepuk dada tanya selera why there is x%...

P.S. This is solid fact about practical limitations to Armed Forces budget, so MKLMS, don't need to get snippy
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 19 2017, 05:13 PM)
and the priority level, like for everything in Malaysia, is - x% for my pocket, y% for actual armed forces use

before talking about why politikus from other sides don't like to allocate money for armed forces, tepuk dada tanya selera why there is x%...

P.S. This is solid fact about practical limitations to Armed Forces budget, so MKLMS, don't need to get snippy
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not going to say i disagree with u, but not everything about military procurement will have "x% for my pocket, y% for actual armed forces", unless u can prove otherwise

like previous Hornet procurement, its a gov-to-gov purchasing

what i see here is that gomen through najib administration have become very careful in military spending & plus najib's team focus for economic development more than military spending..past experience of military asset procurement has thought him a gud lesson i think..EC725, Su-30MKM, Scorpene, all being politicized to the max..funnily enough, behind the political outcry, there's always a figure thats have link to the lose lobbyist..i guess thats how the business work in defence market

ps: still remember anwar condemned EC725 procurement & said its better to buy Mi-171 Kazan in large number (LEL like we dunno who behind him)


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not going to say i disagree with u, but not everything about military procurement will have "x% for my pocket, y% for actual armed forces", unless u can prove otherwise

like previous Hornet procurement, its a gov-to-gov purchasing

what i see here is that gomen through najib administration have become very careful in military spending & plus najib's team focus for economic development more than military spending..past experience of military asset procurement has thought him a gud lesson i think..EC725, Su-30MKM, Scorpene, all being politicized to the max..funnily enough, behind the political outcry, there's always a figure thats have link to the lose lobbyist..i guess thats how the business work in defence market

ps: still remember anwar condemned EC725 procurement & said its better to buy Mi-171 Kazan in large number (LEL like we dunno who behind him)
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IMHO?
We already maxed out on defence stuff already, its too hot topic in Parliament, so move the x% to elsewhere and let the y% budget suffer... but that IS going offtopic so... *zip*
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Haix. Only if SAF follow ATM and offer their servicemen TLAT.  sad.gif

15% interest per annum guaranteed.  sad.gif
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To back. Thier regular are sign till retire. And Singapore is contract base. They have more perks than us. And for singapore more money waste when the person unit is disbanded. But this is a parcel of life may it be here or in malaysia.
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These past 2 weekends I saw pairs of soldiers patrolling Sunway Pyramid together with mall security guard. Pakai beret uniform and M16, I was rushing so I didn't get pics or a close look.

We got heightened security level sekarang ke?
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not going to say i disagree with u, but not everything about military procurement will have "x% for my pocket, y% for actual armed forces", unless u can prove otherwise

like previous Hornet procurement, its a gov-to-gov purchasing

what i see here is that gomen through najib administration have become very careful in military spending & plus najib's team focus for economic development more than military spending..past experience of military asset procurement has thought him a gud lesson i think..EC725, Su-30MKM, Scorpene, all being politicized to the max..funnily enough, behind the political outcry, there's always a figure thats have link to the lose lobbyist..i guess thats how the business work in defence market

ps: still remember anwar condemned EC725 procurement & said its better to buy Mi-171 Kazan in large number (LEL like we dunno who behind him)
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Buying military esset is balancing out what the military need and the economic point. For US esset, FMS sale are more expansive than a unit us by US itself. For european and russian they have TOT so local company will benefit. Thus to is also expansive. Problem with Russian is that they will allow limit level of TOT, thus maintenance level at the country is low. Infonesia had just sent back 2 SU for overhaul to russian via a cargo plan.
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KUALA LUMPUR: Budget cuts have forced Malaysia to consolidate its navy fleet, cutting down on new orders even as several existing vessels face impending retirement.
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topkek this news slowpoke like 6 months when bijan revealed the annual budget
in there almost everything got cut down (except for his own department like usual lel)

cutting down on news orders? i didnt recall the lms or sgpv project got shelved and the 15-to-5 plan is still going on
true several vessels is gonna be retired but that only comes in effect when their replacement or outsource vessel is operational

not sure if the author realize that in the transformation plan the navy will actually have more vessels compared to the current fleet

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 19 2017, 05:41 PM)
These past 2 weekends I saw pairs of soldiers patrolling Sunway Pyramid together with mall security guard. Pakai beret uniform and M16, I was rushing so I didn't get pics or a close look.

We got heightened security level sekarang ke?
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i say the whole world is on heightened security lvl
dangerous times we live in right now sad.gif
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err.. low morale doesnt exactly forces you out of the military career
most likely unattractive retirement plan or crappy home finance scheme?

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Thousands of soldiers quit the army as morale hits historic low

MORE than 15,000 soldiers quit the British Army last year as commanders struggled against falling morale.

The shocking figure represents almost one in five of the 83,340 soldiers serving and is thought to be the greatest single fall in 20 years.

According to official Ministry of Defence figures only 1,759 of the 15,325 regular troops to have left in the year leading to November did so because their time was up.

Nearly half – 7,439 – quit early, exceeding the 7,260 who left the Armed Forces during the previous year. There are now concerns that worsening conditions and a lack of “operational tempo” is failing to keep soldiers motivated.

The situation was exacerbated by 3,325 who were sacked on disciplinary grounds. A further 2,337 were “medically discharged”.

Former defence minister Sir Gerald Howarth MP said: “There is little doubt morale is under enormous pressure. Soldiers are concerned about the Future Accommodation Model, which may see them forced to rent or buy properties when what families actually want is to live in an Army environment.

“Particularly concerning is the effect of ‘historic war crime’ allegations. There is an increasing feeling that soldiers or veterans who find themselves arraigned for doing what they thought was right for their country are pretty much on their own.

The situation was worsened by thousands of soldiers sacked for disciplinary reasons
“Veterans who are now pensioners are waking up to allegations over events in Northern Ireland 45 years ago.”

“Any sense of certainty about the future has been taken away in a 10-year period which saw the defence budget shrink and annual reductions to the size and resources of the Armed Forces.”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/780954/br...loyment-defence

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I will be going back for my reservist this September.

After which I will receive SGD$5k into my CPF as a milestone reward.  biggrin.gif
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Good for you bro. Time to switch off from the real world.
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err.. low morale doesnt exactly forces you out of the military career
most likely unattractive retirement plan or crappy home finance scheme?
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The problem is the government failed to fulfil their part of the military covenant.why?Because the UK government for the 20 years has been shit
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 19 2017, 07:08 PM)
This is true with the politics in malaysia now. A bad deal will make politic disaster.
Singapore has a higher budget for defence but how much is it for operation use. Don't get us wrongl. For some malaysian we buy to show off but it the reverse. Between f15 and rafale, it cheaper to use the F15 as the F16 is using a common engine. And why a large number of fighter. Even for us we don't know how many fighter are in Singapore. So most of our fighter and training aircraft are station oversea. Its to expensive for them to be station he and fly to US, French, australia etc.
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lol... nah, bad deal will provide more bullets to pay for support

it is not show off, it is called show of force (for deterrent purposes), expensive or not... it is the strategic reason why they are left overseas

you singkie too?

QUOTE(keown83 @ Mar 19 2017, 07:08 PM)
1.2% from total GDP is too small..even singapore got 3.2% from total GDP

the truth is, we never spend a lot
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not only do you look at def budget vs gdp... you should look also at def/overall budget and also min amount req for a capable defense force

QUOTE(TigerLion @ Mar 19 2017, 07:26 PM)
Haix. Only if SAF follow ATM and offer their servicemen TLAT.  sad.gif

15% interest per annum guaranteed.  sad.gif
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you think it is a good thing? where do you think they made the $$$ from? same reasoning with cpf vs epf... if you know, then you will realize it is actually detrimental to the country overall

QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 19 2017, 07:41 PM)
To back. Thier regular are sign till retire. And Singapore is contract base. They have more perks than us. And for singapore more money waste when the person unit is disbanded. But this is a parcel of life may it be here or in malaysia.
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SAF cant afford to guarantee till retirement lor, used to have not anymore... to prevent dead weights and weak farmers.. more perks? hehehee...

QUOTE(TigerLion @ Mar 19 2017, 09:10 PM)
SAF also sign for life. Their 2nd contract is for life.
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2nd contract for life? nah... maybe for enlisted... not for officers...
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 20 2017, 12:10 AM)
lol... nah, bad deal will provide more bullets to pay for support

it is not show off, it is called show of force (for deterrent purposes), expensive or not... it is the strategic reason why they are left overseas

you singkie too?
not only do you look at def budget vs gdp... you should look also at def/overall budget and also min amount req for a capable defense force
you think it is a good thing? where do you think they made the $$$ from? same reasoning with cpf vs epf... if you know, then you will realize it is actually detrimental to the country overall
SAF cant afford to guarantee till retirement lor, used to have not anymore... to prevent dead weights and weak farmers.. more perks? hehehee...
2nd contract for life? nah... maybe for enlisted... not for officers...
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Yap. Singkie and staying where you can see F15, Charlie and Friendship flying overhead. And those F15 are loud.

Singapore defence budget is high due to reservist pay. NS pay is peanut to mindef but those reservist drain more from the mindef budget.
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Libyan warplane downed striking jihadists in Benghazi

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Benghazi: A fighter jet of forces loyal to a Libyan military strongman was shot down today as it attacked jihadist positions in Benghazi, a military source said.

"A MiG-21 was shot down by a heat-seeking missile," said Mohammad Ghunem, spokesman for the forces of strongman Khalifa Haftar, who is battling to oust jihadists from Libya's second city.
"The plane, targeted by terrorist groups, crashed in the district of Suq al-Hut but its pilot survived."

He said the jet was hit as it carried out a raid on the last bastion of "extremists" in the city's Mediterranean seafront district of Al-Saberi.
The pilot, Adel Abdullah Bushisha, was able to eject and landed by parachute in the east of the city, he said.


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Libyan warplane downed striking jihadists in Benghazi

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Probably a North Korean MANPAD, we already know ISIS/AQ has gotten quite a few of them
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 20 2017, 10:16 AM)
RMAF’s wings clipped by budget cuts
FMT Reporters | March 16, 2017

Noting the budget included about RM460 million to the RMAF for procurement, the report quoted Malaysian defence analyst Dzirhan Mahadzir as saying this would be used to pay for ongoing programmes rather than new acquisitions.

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Lel. FMT quoting Dzirhan. Dzirhan said don't read FMT.

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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 20 2017, 02:46 AM)
Yap. Singkie and staying where you can see F15, Charlie and Friendship flying overhead. And those F15 are loud.

Singapore defence budget is high due to reservist pay. NS pay is peanut to mindef but those reservist drain more from the mindef budget.
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you served? come army open house rclxms.gif

well, its all part of the larger defense strategy... if you're enlisted, they wont call you up if you're making a lot.. if you're an officer, they would only call you if you're very outstanding..

anyway, the defense budget does not include expenses by the military industrial complex...

Army Open House/ NS50 Showcase 2017

This year's AOH17 will be open to the Public on 27-28 May 17 (Sat & Sun). All are welcome, I will be manning two booths, for my unit and as well as for recruitment rclxms.gif Tentatively it will be at the F1 pit.

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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 20 2017, 11:44 AM)
interesting, who is not telling the whole truth now?  devil.gif
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why don't you summon dzirhan. he visit here sometimes to clarify somethings. fmt tend to recycle other source and write it back and make that news more sensational.
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why don't you summon dzirhan. he visit here sometimes to clarify somethings. fmt tend to recycle other source and write it back and make that news more sensational.
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This are just article and opinion, the only truth is when the army chief or the defence minister declare it. They have intention but to what was said latest by 2020 for MRCA. Maybe they will surprise everyone this Lima17.
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China and US discuss North Korea tensions



China's Foreign Minister has warned of a dangerous crossroads over North Korea.

Wang Yi was speaking after what he called "candid and productive" talks with the new US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

Tillerson said the US and China will work together to convince Pyongyang to choose "a better path".





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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Mar 20 2017, 10:21 AM)
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Lel. FMT quoting Dzirhan. Dzirhan said don't read FMT.
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Original article is from DefenseNews. Its a 2 part series article.

Malaysian naval power suffers budget woes

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Dzirhan Mahadzir‏ @DzirhanDefence

Folks, don't read the Free Malaysia Today articles citing the Defense News reports on Msia, read the orginals, lots of ad-libbing by FMT

4:25 AM - 19 Mar 2017
2 replies 12 retweets 10 likes

izwan hazman‏ @izwan_maman 16h16 hours ago

@DzirhanDefence original source Dari mana bang

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Dzirhan Mahadzir‏ @DzirhanDefence 16h16 hours ago

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/malays...ers-budget-woes … @izwan_maman
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https://twitter.com/DzirhanDefence/status/843423171030130688


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I will be going back for my reservist this September.

After which I will receive SGD$5k into my CPF as a milestone reward.  biggrin.gif
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owh, they pay straight into ur CPF account? not into ur personal bank account?
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More F-16 aircraft from US arrive in Indonesia

The Jakarta Post
Jakarta | Mon, March 20, 2017 | 11:43 am

Five F-16 jet fighters granted from the United States government will arrive at the Iswahjudi Air Force Base in Magetan, East Java, on Monday.

"Five F-16 fighter aircraft type F-16C/D from the US government will arrive today at Iswahjudi Air Force Base, Magetan," Head of public information at the Iswahjudi Air Force Base, Magetan, Mayor Tamsir, said on Monday as quoted on kompas.com.

The five jet fighters are a portion of the 24 aircraft the US government granted to Indonesia. Indonesia has received 14 aircraft until now.

"So there are still five more to come. According to schedule, they will arrive by the end of the year," said Tamsir.

Tamsir said one pilot from Iswahjudi would be one of the five pilots who flew the aircraft from the US to Indonesia.

Tamsir added that the five aircraft would received directly by Danlanud Iswahjudi, Marsma TNI Andyawan MP at the main base.

It was earlier reported that five F-16s from the US Air Force had arrived at Iswahjudi on Wednesday. The aircraft have been upgraded so that their ability is equivalent to a new plane.

The five aircraft are expected to strengthen Indonesia’s main weaponry system. (dis/wit)


http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2017/03...-indonesia.html

^^ Correction it should be four units and not five. Consist of 3 units F-16C and 1 unit F-16B.

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Spotlight on Malaysian companies' links with Pyongyang

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"No relation with North Korea, for your information."

This was the blunt response from Malaysian firm MKP Holdings
, when quizzed by The Straits Times over a report by the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) on possible violations of sanctions meant to stifle North Korea's nuclear arms programme.

In the recently released report, MKP - short for Malaysia Korea Partners - is investigated for establishing the International Consortium Bank (ICB) in Pyongyang via a joint venture. Under UN sanctions, institutions are barred from "establishing joint ventures and from taking an ownership interest" in North Korean banks.

The firm is just one example of Malaysia's failure to enforce the UN resolutions, as pointed out in the UNSC report. Malaysia is only now clamping down on North Korean activities, following the Feb 13 killing of Mr Kim Jong Nam, which was allegedly ordered by his half-brother, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

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The UNSC report and Malaysian police both say that another Malaysian company flouting the sanctions is Glocom, set up in 2009 as a front for the Reconnaissance General Bureau, North Korea's spy department. Police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said it is in the process of being struck off by the Companies Commission of Malaysia.

This came about only after media reports about Glocom's activities. The police did not explain why they did not act earlier.

A senior government official involved in law enforcement told The Straits Times that the authorities have been "working backwards" since the murder to stem the perception that Malaysia has been fertile ground for covert North Korean activities.

The UNSC report noted that it has yet to receive a reply from MKP and the Malaysian government on its inquiry about the firm's activities. The police also did not respond to The Straits Times' queries.

This much is known about MKP: Company documents show that it is engaged in "investments". It is jointly controlled by Malaysian businessman Yong Kok Yeap and North Korean Han Hun Il, alias Edward Han.

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Its website says that it started as a construction company but has since diversified into shipbuilding, trading, banking, medical technology and eco-tourism.

The website also states that the commercial bank ICB is licensed by North Korea's central bank in accordance with North Korea's foreign investment laws. The website claims that MKP has been involved in North Korean-linked projects for decades. The firm has even built a paddy museum in Kedah, which houses murals painted by 60 North Korean artists in 2004.

MKP also organised an art exhibition, Window To Pyongyang, in Kuala Lumpur in 2008. The show was officiated by Tan Sri Ong Tee Keat, then transport minister, according to The Star newspaper, which reported that the exhibition was attended by then North Korean ambassador Yang Bong Ryull and "MKP Group chief executive officer Dr Edward Han".

Besides Mr Han, Mr Yong was also present, said Mr Ong.

"(Mr Yong) seemed to be quite intimate with DPRK and quite close to the ambassador then," Mr Ong told The Straits Times, using an acronym for North Korea's official name.

MKP is also involved in deals in Africa like the Heroes Acre monument in Zimbabwe - a project by Mansudae Overseas Projects, North Korea's art construction company. It owns a Zambian financial leasing company, Commercial Capital Corporation, which the UN is investigating for possible links to North Korea.

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Last week, The Straits Times visited MKP's main office in an industrial estate in Balakong, outside Kuala Lumpur. Staff there threatened to call the police over "invasion of privacy". A visit to Mr Yong's home also yielded the same response.

But an MKP officer whom The Straits Times managed to reach said information on the MKP website "is old" and denied that the company had any involvement with North Korean entities.

The officer, Ms Siti Suzaini, also said Mr Yong is the sole director of the company and there is "no person at MKP Holdings called Mr Edward Han", even though the latest company documents show Mr Han has been MKP's director since 1998.

A check at a medical software subsidiary of MKP about 10 minutes from its headquarters found that the office appeared unoccupied, with unpaid sewage bills dating back to early 2015 strewn outside the premises.

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South Korean daily Chosun Ilbo reported last month that Mr Han is one of the regime's financiers and had business ties with the late Mr Kim.

Citing an unnamed source, the paper said he likely provided North Korean officials with information on Mr Kim's travel plans to Malaysia. He is said to have disappeared from work a week before the murder.

When The Straits Times visited Mr Han's residence near the popular Bukit Bintang shopping belt in Kuala Lumpur, no one answered the door, though the condominium unit appeared to be occupied.

North Korea expert Stephan Haggard, of the University of California, San Diego, said that there is a general view that Malaysia is lax on enforcement of its export control regime related to the funding of nuclear weapons, when it comes to Iran and North Korea.

"As long as governments are looking the other way, these violations will continue,"
said Professor Haggard.
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Air Force’s 7th, 8th FA-50PHs arriving March 29

March 18, 2017 Ruben Santos Nation

The Philippine Air Force is set to receive its 7th and 8th FA-50PH ‘Fighting Eagle’ Fighter/Surface Attack/Lead-in Fighters Trainer Aircraft (F/SA/LIFTA), 007 and 008, on March 29. The scheduled delivery will bring Air Force’s Fighting Eagles to 8.

“This is the fourth batch of planes to arrive, with tail numbers 007 and 008,” Air Force spokesman Colonel Antonio Francisco as quoted by Philippine Star.

005 and 006 arrived February 22 this year. First two units of the FA-50PH arrived November 28, 2015 followed by the second two units last December 8, 2016.

Remaining 4 of 12 ordered units are expected to be delivered within this year.

The FA-50PH is a multi role fighter variant of KAI’s T-50 Golden Eagle supersonic advanced jet trainer. It is capable of carrying short range air-to-air missiles, air-to-surface missiles with countermeasures such as chaffs and Infrared Flares. PAF’s acquisition of the 12 FA-50PH F/SA/LIFTA is under the AFP Modernization Program contracted with the Korean Aerospace Industries, Ltd (KAI) to enhance the country’s territorial defense capabilities.


http://www.update.ph/2017/03/air-forces-7t...his-month/15954
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Singapore Navy Launches Fourth Littoral Mission Vessel

Senior Minister for State for Defence Dr Mohamad Maliki Bin Osman officiated at the launching ceremony of the Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN)'s fourth Littoral Mission Vessel (LMV), Justice, at the Singapore Technologies Marine (ST Marine)'s Benoi shipyard today. The LMV was launched by Mdm Sadiah Shahal, wife of Dr Maliki.

Speaking at the ceremony, Dr Maliki highlighted that given the increasingly volatile maritime domain, the LMVs aptly illustrate how the RSN is "looking ahead to the next 50 years to make sure it stays relevant and ready for the challenges ahead." He added, "the RSN has designed the LMV to conduct a wider range of operations in a more complex environment. It will give the RSN greater mission flexibility and sustainability."

The launch of Justice is another significant milestone in the RSN's continued transformation to keep Singapore's seas safe. The LMVs are faster, more versatile, and equipped with sharper capabilities to further strengthen the RSN's effectiveness in seaward defence. The LMVs can be quickly configured with mission modules to take on a wide spectrum of operations, allowing the crew to deliver calibrated responses using lethal and non-lethal options to deal with a range of maritime threats.

The LMV project is progressing well, with LMV Justice expected to be fully operational by 2018, and all eight LMVs by 2020. The first three LMVs, Independence, Sovereignty and Unity, are presently undergoing sea trials and LMV Independence will be commissioned during the RSN's Golden Jubilee on 5 May 2017.

Also present at the ceremony were Chief of Navy Rear-Admiral Lai Chung Han and senior officials from the RSN.


https://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/press_roo...18#.WM-O9rglFdh
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this is a loss me thinks
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looks like the frame is busted
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Pesawat F16 yang Tergelincir Masih Bisa Diperbaiki

Chaidir Anwar Tanjung - detikNews

Jakarta - Pesawat F16 yang tergelincir di Bandara Sultan Syarif Kasim (SSK) II Pekanbaru dipastikan masih bisa diperbaiki. Hal ini diketahui setelah dilakukan cek fisik oleh tim Bantuan Pemeliharaan Lapangan (Banharlap) dari TNI AU.

Komandan Lanud Roesmin Nurjadin Pekanbaru, Marsma Henri Alfiandi mengatakan dari pengecekan diketahui pesawat tempur F16 mengalami tiga titik kerusakan saat tergelincir. Kerusakan itu terdapat pada bagian hidung pesawat, sayap dan bagian ekor dengan tingkat kerusakan antara 20 sampai 25 persen.

"Hasil penilaian tim Banharlap, pesawat F16 yang mengalami insiden masih laik terbang. Tapi tentunya bukan langsung diterbangkan, tapi masih perlu perbaikan," kata Henri.

Perbaikan pesawat tersebut, kata Henri, akan dilakukan di Lanud Iswahyudi. Namun yang terpenting adalah, bahwa pesawat yang sempat terbalik tersebut nantinya masih bisa difungsikan.

"Nantinya pesawat F16 akan dibawa ke Lanud Iswahyudi untuk dilakukan perbaikan serta di upgrade ulang," kata Henri.


Read more: https://m.detik.com/news/berita/d-3450069/p...bisa-diperbaiki

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Boustead secures RM1.17 billion contract from Ministry of Defence

By Bernama - March 20, 2017 @ 7:36pm

KUALA LUMPUR: Boustead Holdings Bhd's unit, Boustead Naval Shipyard Sdn Bhd (BNS), has bagged a RM1.17 billion contract from Malaysia's Ministry of Defence for the supply of four Littoral Mission Ships.

The contract, a collaboration between the governments of Malaysia and China, was awarded to BNS under direct negotiation, for collaboration with a partner shipyard in China.

It is to be implemented over four years, effective from the date of signing of the Letter of Acceptance by BNS, Boustead in a filing to Bursa Malaysia said today.

It said the Littoral Mission Ships will be designed by the partner shipyard and the first two vessels will be built and delivered in China in 2019 and 2020. The remaining two will be delivered in Malaysia in 2021.

The contract will have a positive effect on the earnings of the group for the financial year ending Dec 31, 2017, and will contribute positively to its future earnings. -- BERNAMA


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The Indonesian Air Force today took delivery of two units F-16C/D. Another two units F-16C is scheduled to arrive tomorrow on Tuesday.

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How does STRIDE and MIDAS function towards malaysian defence? Do they collaborate with malaysian defence industry or the stand alone reporting to Malaysia Defence ministry?
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Have to watch it in JB. But seem this year a lot of war and police movie
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PT PAL to finish submarine construction: Chief minister

Senin, 20 Maret 2017 22:30 WIB

Surabaya, E Java (ANTARA News) - Chief Minister for Maritime Affairs Luhut Binsar Panjaitan expressed his confidence here on Monday that state-owned shipyard PT PAL Indonesia would be able to finish assembling the submarine ordered by the ministry of defense.

"Seeing the current process so far I am convinced PT PAL Indonesia will be able to build a submarine by itself later," he said after inspecting the submarine workshop at PT PAL Indonesia shipyard.

Luhut also praised and believed that the domestic shipyard is not inferior compared to those abroad as it has been proven it is able to export warships.

After inspecting the submarine workshop Luhut and entourage inspected the construction of a strategic sealift vessel (ssv) ordered by the Philippine ministry of defense which will soon be delivered.

"The construction is good. I should admit it," he said.

The development of a submarine workshop is aimed at meeting the orders of the ministry of defense.

PT PAL Indonesia has been cooperating with South Korea with regard to construction of three submarines through training of Indonesian human resources in South Korea.

Of the three submarines ordered, one is totally assembled by the Indonesian workers while the fourth and following orders will be done fully by Indonesian workers.


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malaysia confirms buying 4 lms from china with some tech transfer..my question for expert here: why on earth with so many tt previously we still looking for foreign ships again..use previous tech we gain can we? if so difficult to do then better not do at all from waste the money again and again especially when money is the main problems right now..
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QUOTE(mrcg @ Mar 21 2017, 10:17 AM)
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/fdnews/233974.jsp

malaysia confirms buying 4 lms from china with some tech transfer..my question for expert here: why on earth with so many tt previously we still looking for foreign ships again..use previous tech we gain can we? if so difficult to do then better not do at all from waste the money again and again especially when money is the main problems right now..
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cheap and proven design. i think cost is the main factor and BNS don't have any available yard to construct the ship.
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cheap and proven design. i think cost is the main factor and BNS don't have any available yard to construct the ship.
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its not just this deal which in my opinion 1.11 b for 4 ships pretty cheap but look at overall picture..everytime want to buy ships need tt then next new batch another tt..what hell those people thinking actually when making the decision..people grow old day after day so the technical people that involve in this tt. the tech they gain if not pass to new gen will waste into thin air. i believe we must use the tech we gain and improve it so the new gen can empower the tech later in future instead tt there tt here like teh tarik session only mamak get rich but we gain fat
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QUOTE(mrcg @ Mar 21 2017, 10:54 AM)
its not just this deal which in my opinion 1.11 b for 4 ships pretty cheap but look at overall picture..everytime want to buy ships need tt then next new batch another tt..what hell those people thinking actually when making the decision..people grow old day after day so the technical people that involve in this tt. the tech they gain if not pass to new gen will waste into thin air. i believe we must  use the tech we gain and improve it so the new gen can empower the tech later in future instead tt there tt here like teh tarik session only mamak get rich but we gain fat
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the only ToT we (already) get right now are from the NGPV project. BNS did compete with others in SGPV, but lost probably due to tech offered. that about ship design. If about configuration and installation, the knowledge we gain from NGPV already applied on Kasturi class SLEP.
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Boustead secures RM1.17 billion contract from Ministry of Defence

By Bernama - March 20, 2017 @ 7:36pm
KUALA LUMPUR: Boustead Holdings Bhd's unit, Boustead Naval Shipyard Sdn Bhd (BNS), has bagged a RM1.17 billion contract from Malaysia's Ministry of Defence for the supply of four Littoral Mission Ships.
The contract, a collaboration between the governments of Malaysia and China, was awarded to BNS under direct negotiation, for collaboration with a partner shipyard in China.
It is to be implemented over four years, effective from the date of signing of the Letter of Acceptance by BNS, Boustead in a filing to Bursa Malaysia said today.
It said the Littoral Mission Ships will be designed by the partner shipyard and the first two vessels will be built and delivered in China in 2019 and 2020. The remaining two will be delivered in Malaysia in 2021.
The contract will have a positive effect on the earnings of the group for the financial year ending Dec 31, 2017, and will contribute positively to its future earnings. -- BERNAMA
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RM1.17 billion for 4 ship, cost about RM 300 mil each, USD @4.4/1 usd, it cost about USD 68 mill. still acceptable. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(mrcg @ Mar 21 2017, 12:54 PM)
its not just this deal which in my opinion 1.11 b for 4 ships pretty cheap but look at overall picture..everytime want to buy ships need tt then next new batch another tt..what hell those people thinking actually when making the decision..people grow old day after day so the technical people that involve in this tt. the tech they gain if not pass to new gen will waste into thin air. i believe we must  use the tech we gain and improve it so the new gen can empower the tech later in future instead tt there tt here like teh tarik session only mamak get rich but we gain fat
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tech transfer is not simple as passing a usb drive with all the blueprints... from a layman observer point of view, msia just dont have the military industrial complex needed to fully appreciate and make full use of such a technology... same can be observed from the aug case... if something as simple as that cant materialize, what more a complex system like a ship?

lets not be like the indians or indons and pay a premium while not making full use of it..
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Revisit: Operation Protective Edge 2014

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State comptroller’s Operation Protective Edge report states IDF failed to complete its mission

According to the state comptroller report on Operation Protective Edge, major gaps in military intelligence and the failure to relay important information to the Israeli Security Cabinet members who made decisions throughout the operation resulted in the IDF failing to complete its mission in Gaza.

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State Comptroller Joseph Shapira’s report on Operation Protective Edge that was released this afternoon (Tuesday) revealed that the IDF was not appropriately prepared for the Hamas terror tunnel threat. Shapira rejected Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s version of the series of events that led up to the operation and determined that while Netanyahu and then-Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon knew about the threat, this information was not relayed to the Israeli Security Cabinet and the threat was not handled properly

The report also revealed that Hamas still possesses active terror tunnels, confirming the statement made by a cabinet member earlier this week. In addition, the report claims that the IDF entered the operation without any clear strategies to eradicate the tunnel threat. Shapira’s report also criticized the cabinet for not functioning properly and its members for debating the goals of the operation while soldiers were fighting in Gaza. Israel’s state comptroller also stated in the report that some of the goals of operation were not achieved due to the major gaps in intelligence, lack of IDF preparations and the cabinet’s decision-making process.

“Out of the offensive tunnels that the IDF marked as a priority, it [the military] destroyed half of them and neutralized a few others,” wrote Shapira in the report. “The rest of the offensive tunnels were either just damaged or left in working condition.” Shapira concluded that because the main purpose of the operation was to destroy or neutralize the Hamas terror tunnels, the IDF did not complete its mission.

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The report also revealed that the Israeli security establishment was informed that Hamas is planning to kidnap Israelis or soldiers by using a tunnel prior to the operation. However, this intelligence was not clearly relayed to the cabinet members. According to the report, the possibility of a kidnapping was only mentioned during a cabinet discussion.

“Prime Minister Netanyahu was well aware of the tunnel threat, which he called a main and strategic threat, and held many discussions about it outside of the cabinet,” continued Shapira in the report. “He should have presented the cabinet with the tunnel threat in a detailed manner after he understood its seriousness.”

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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 21 2017, 01:49 AM)
Have to watch it in JB. But seem this year a lot of war and police movie
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this was suppose to realeased last year
but delay for some reason
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Indonesian PT PAL begins construction of the Indonesian Navy 3rd DSME Type 209 Submarine. Credit to Portal Komando.

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So this is how our Gowind class looks like?
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anang mcm mcm wai, nuan ulih nanchang aku, nuan ulih merinsa aku,  pia mega nuan ulih ngancurka tubuh aku tang nuan enda ulih mejal runding aku.
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Ok, I give up trying to translate it. If it's was something offensive I said, I apologize.

The langkau I remember when living in Sarawak was the clear liquid stuff usually served in Coke bottles.
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Mar 21 2017, 01:49 PM)
So this is how our Gowind class looks like?
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yes, but our Gowind have extra increase 9 meter hull length in middle of ship (between hanger and Engine exhaust)
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 21 2017, 03:17 PM)
must look at the fine print lo, does the corst cover the ship, powertrain, navigation system, weapons systems and maintenance? or just ship and powertrain only?
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should be. our military culture all ways all in. no really heave weapon, just main gun and machine gun, (no missile)
056 only cost about usd 100 with all include.
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 21 2017, 03:17 PM)
must look at the fine print lo, does the corst cover the ship, powertrain, navigation system, weapons systems and maintenance? or just ship and powertrain only?
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power train tu kereta bole bang. ships guna propulsion laugh.gif laugh.gif
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thank you for correction biggrin.gif

make it simple la like that ...warship engine
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engines + gearbox + shafting + propellers, if i may add. on merchant vessels, these alone consist about 30% of cost of vessel.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but Indonesia was ahead of entire ASEAN since even the 1950s. Even when Malaysia and Singapore was just a twinkle in the British eye, Indonesian military already have very serious assets.

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what happened to these asset now?
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It's preparation for regaining Papua by force, because the Dutch was reluctant to relinquish it. This show of force was successful, Dutch simply left.

Communist influence toppled in a massive purge, Sukarno replaced by Suharto. Indonesia switched to western side. No more parts from Soviet Union.

Other than scrapped, some fighters like MiG-21 was sent to the US. As replacement, Indonesia bought F-5 Tiger and others.
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 21 2017, 05:00 PM)
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Some in museum.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but Indonesia was ahead of entire ASEAN since even the 1950s. Even when Malaysia and Singapore was just a twinkle in the British eye, Indonesian military already have very serious assets.

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what happend to the AUG case? stamping composite plastic is not rocket science when we have companies that can do oil rig and semi conduction wafers
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steyr issue isnt really about quality but more about its maintenance and inherent design..

the steyr were brought "as is" meaning they were a stock design from their austrian factories
which may have worked in their country of origin but completely ignored our msian tropical settings

the humidity and lack of waterproofings means the mechanical parts needs to be dried off before every use
and with more mechanical parts its more prone to jams in the auto setting; suffice to say its a maintenance nightmare
even the aussie learned this and made modification to their own stery aug to the f88 standard

the rifle is actually is still in service though, but mostly for rear line troops and reserve particularly the artys and support corps

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LANGKAWI: Two Contenders for MRSS. Despite the MOU between Boustead and PT PAL, there is yet no guarantee that they will build the MRSS. Facing off against the offering is one from China though it is not clear which ship or the shipyard.
Although, one China firm is taking part in LIMA 17, CSSC, it did not display a LPD-type ship, similar to the MRSS concept. In the previous LIMA, they had of course.
PT PAL of Indonesia, in the other hand had a model of its MRSS and the picture of it as the backdrop of its booth. Basically its a refinement of the model shown in Indo Defense last year.
Boustead, meanwhile, did not have a model although it touted the MOU with PT PAL with a banner. I did not find anyone who could speak about the MRSS or even the LCS and LMS for that matter but I guess there is still time to speak with them in the next few days. Hopefully.
I am not sure whether the competition from China is a serious one or simply an attempt to make the Boustead/PT PAL offer an honest one. I am told the project will be funded soon, likely to be in 2018, if all goes well in the economic and political spheres, of course.
I am told a point defence system is needed while a medium calibre gun is also specified. Of course, if they decided on a China made ship, it is likely to be fitted with China made weapons system as Western companies are not allowed to fit military grade stuff on such vessels.
The Boustead/PT PAL model has a 57mm gun so I guess that is probably the choice of the builders. Interestingly, KRI Banjarmasin, the third Makassar class which the MRSS based on is fitted with a 40mm L70 Bofors gun as main gun. The ship is taking part in LIMA 17.
Anyhow, work on the MMEA OPV is expected to start early next year. The three ships will be built at the TTHE shipyard in Pulau Indah, THHE officials confirmed. As reported previously, the ship will be built to the Damen 1800 OPV design.
However, unlike 1800 design, the MMEA OPV will not come with a hangar for an embarked helicopter. It can land and refuel helicopters up to an AW139, however, as well as UAVs. No decision has been made on the UAV.
It will be fitted with four Caterpillar diesel engines with two screws for a design speed of 20 knots. It will be 83 meters long and crewed by 70 personnel.

i thought MRSS was not on the RMN priority list???

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QUOTE(James831 @ Mar 21 2017, 06:18 PM)
Two Contenders for MRSS--MalaysianDefence
i thought MRSS was not on the RMN priority list???
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not sure where did you get the idea?
mrss have always been on their priority list
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 21 2017, 05:19 PM)
looks like Indonesia is ahead of many countries in ASEAN  rclxms.gif
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i think its just the hull... even the indians can do that

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what happend to the AUG case? stamping composite plastic is not rocket science when we have companies that can do oil rig and semi conduction wafers
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idunnolol... the rest here might know better

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power train tu kereta bole bang. ships guna propulsion  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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term power train is used in the marine industry too...
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Russia and Indonesia are in discussions over a contract on the delivery of two stealth submarines to Jakarata, the deputy director of Russia's Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) told Sputnik.

LANGKAWI (Malaysia) (Sputnik) — Petukhov heads the Russian delegation at the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition LIMA-2017, where the Project 636 is among the 500 pieces of Russian military hardware showcased.

"The draft contract is under discussion," Mikhail Petukhov said of the Project 636 Varshavyanka class diesel-electric submarines.

The Varshavyanka-class is an improved version of Kilo-class submarines that feature elements of advanced stealth technology, extended combat range and the ability to strike land, surface and underwater targets.

The vessel, carrying crews of 52, has a top underwater speed of 20 knots and a cruising range of 400 miles (electric propulsion), with the ability to patrol for 45 days. The submarines are armed with 18 torpedoes and eight surface-to-air missiles.

The submarines are mainly intended for anti-ship and anti-submarine missions in coastal waters.


https://sputniknews.com/military/2017032110...sia-deliveries/

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Taiwan self made La Fayette-class frigate smaller version invisible type..
if Malaysia buy from Taiwan cheaper price..what u guy think?

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LIMA 2017: CSIC discloses further details of Littoral Mission Ship proposal for Malaysia

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Taiwan self made La Fayette-class frigate smaller version invisible type..
if Malaysia buy from Taiwan cheaper price..what u guy think?
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err.. the taiwan frigate is made in french
taiwan only did final weapons assembly
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this was suppose to realeased last year
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The last I watch was Bravo. Waiting for this 3. One on the UTK and the 2 army movies.
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err.. the taiwan frigate is made in french
taiwan only did final weapons assembly
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i think is missle boat..Kuang Hua VI-class missile boat
smaller version of french made frigate and change of little design on tht ship
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Mar 21 2017, 11:03 AM)
the only ToT we (already) get right now are from the NGPV project. BNS did compete with others in SGPV, but lost probably due to tech offered. that about ship design. If about configuration and installation, the knowledge we gain from NGPV already applied on Kasturi class SLEP.
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TOT does not mean the OEM handover all ther trade secret. For NGPV bought the right to its technology. For Gowind class. It was not stated on how much tech transfer was done. The advantage of TOT to the industry is to keep the builder know how on continuing the project. And expect more wired for kind of ship. As it is cheaper for a navy to run in along run.
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 21 2017, 08:16 PM)
wow, ini memang hari ini dalam sejarah ....
question now arise, while the aussies managed to mod to f88 standard, why malaysia did not follow thru?
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simply cuz it would cost more to mod it
smeo can oni afford for license-production

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Mar 21 2017, 08:15 PM)
i think is missle boat..Kuang Hua VI-class missile boat
smaller version of french made frigate and change of little design on tht ship
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sure it might be cheaper but its pretty much out of the question due to current political influences
and taiwan does rarely export its weapons due for the same reason

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 21 2017, 08:42 PM)
sure it might be cheaper but its pretty much out of the question due to current political influences
and taiwan does rarely export its weapons due for the same reason

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Taiwan self made La Fayette-class frigate smaller version invisible type..
if Malaysia buy from Taiwan cheaper price..what u guy think?
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 21 2017, 10:16 PM)
wow, ini memang hari ini dalam sejarah ....

question now arise, while the aussies managed to mod to f88 standard, why malaysia did not follow thru?
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dont compare with aus please... cool2.gif

QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 21 2017, 10:19 PM)
not too bad la... as far as welding steel plates are concerned laugh.gif
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www.shephardmedia.com/news/imps-news/lima-2017-china-proposes-light-lhd/

LIMA 2017: China proposes light LHD

21st March 2017 - 12:30 by Gordon Arthur in Langkawi
LIMA 2017: China proposes light LHD
The China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Company (CSOC) showed a large scale model of a landing helicopter dock (LHD) vessel at the LIMA 2017 exhibition in Langkawi, Malaysia.

Although labelled a landing platform dock (LPD) the ship model had a flat-top deck suitable for landing up to four helicopters. The model interestingly showed an embarked V-22 Osprey and MH-60 Seahawk while a spokesperson said the ship could embark ten helicopters in total.

This new design was an interesting addition to the potpourri of ship designs that CSOC exhibited especially considering the fact that the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) is not in the market for such a large-displacement vessel.

While the RMN has long had a desire to obtain LPDs it has been stymied in its quest by budgetary restrictions. Certainly it has no declared desire for an LHD.

Indeed, the most likely candidate to meet Malaysia's LPD requirement is the Multi-Role Support Ship (MRSS) from PT PAL being offered in conjunction with local partner Boustead Naval Shipyard. The MRSS is 163m long and displaces 12,000t.

A spokesperson from CSOC said the LHD model on display at LIMA 2017 had a displacement of approximately 20,000t. He confirmed it was not designed for the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) but that it had been proposed to several overseas customers.

Nevertheless there were similarities between the 20,000t LHD and the much larger Type 075 LHD that the PLAN appears destined to obtain. The shape of the island superstructure, for example, matched that of the Type 075 seen in unofficial artist's renditions.

Some sources within China previously stated that steel cutting on the first-of-class would take place in the first quarter of 2017.

The China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC) has apparently been awarded the construction contract for the Type 075 that will have an estimated displacement of 36,000t. This size would make it marginally smaller than a 40,500t Wasp-class LHD of the US Navy.

The Type 075 will have landing deck spaces for six helicopters and should be able to accommodate up to 30 helicopters. In the case of the PLAN this would probably include types such as the Z-8, Z-9, Z-18, Ka-28 and Ka-31. A main elevator is located at the stern.

On the Type 75 each corner of the hull features self-defensive weapons, including two H/PJ-11 11-barrelled 30mm close-in weapon system and two HQ-10 short-range surface-to-air missiles.

With the size of the PLAN Marine Corps set to rise from its current 20,000 troops to somewhere close to 100,000, China's navy will have an urgent need for LHDs.

The PLAN's largest amphibious support vessels at the moment are four Type 071 LPDs, although a fifth is under construction and a sixth is expected. Beijing had previously offered Malaysia this class of ship.

Interestingly, CSOC also showed a model of the Type 001 Liaoning aircraft carrier at LIMA 2017 as well, further underscoring China's efforts to make carrier acquisitions as routine and acceptable as possible.
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 21 2017, 09:19 PM)
lelz... prc will squeeze najib's balls  blush.gif
dont compare with aus please...  cool2.gif
not too bad la... as far as welding steel plates are concerned  laugh.gif
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For Taiwan they do not export their arms.
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actually they did.. though only rifles which is just small arms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T91_assault_rifle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T65_assault_rifle
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maybe najib say i buyr ur enemy weapon to counter my neighbor???  rolleyes.gif
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lelz.. totally conflicting statement... cause neighbor more kawan with prc's adversary
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www.shephardmedia.com/news/imps-news/lima-2017-china-proposes-light-lhd/

LIMA 2017: China proposes light LHD

21st March 2017 - 12:30 by Gordon Arthur in Langkawi
LIMA 2017: China proposes light LHD
The China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Company (CSOC) showed a large scale model of a landing helicopter dock (LHD) vessel at the LIMA 2017 exhibition in Langkawi, Malaysia.

Although labelled a landing platform dock (LPD) the ship model had a flat-top deck suitable for landing up to four helicopters. The model interestingly showed an embarked V-22 Osprey and MH-60 Seahawk while a spokesperson said the ship could embark ten helicopters in total.

This new design was an interesting addition to the potpourri of ship designs that CSOC exhibited especially considering the fact that the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) is not in the market for such a large-displacement vessel.

While the RMN has long had a desire to obtain LPDs it has been stymied in its quest by budgetary restrictions. Certainly it has no declared desire for an LHD.

Indeed, the most likely candidate to meet Malaysia's LPD requirement is the Multi-Role Support Ship (MRSS) from PT PAL being offered in conjunction with local partner Boustead Naval Shipyard. The MRSS is 163m long and displaces 12,000t.

A spokesperson from CSOC said the LHD model on display at LIMA 2017 had a displacement of approximately 20,000t. He confirmed it was not designed for the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) but that it had been proposed to several overseas customers.

Nevertheless there were similarities between the 20,000t LHD and the much larger Type 075 LHD that the PLAN appears destined to obtain. The shape of the island superstructure, for example, matched that of the Type 075 seen in unofficial artist's renditions.

Some sources within China previously stated that steel cutting on the first-of-class would take place in the first quarter of 2017.

The China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC) has apparently been awarded the construction contract for the Type 075 that will have an estimated displacement of 36,000t. This size would make it marginally smaller than a 40,500t Wasp-class LHD of the US Navy.

The Type 075 will have landing deck spaces for six helicopters and should be able to accommodate up to 30 helicopters. In the case of the PLAN this would probably include types such as the Z-8, Z-9, Z-18, Ka-28 and Ka-31. A main elevator is located at the stern.

On the Type 75 each corner of the hull features self-defensive weapons, including two H/PJ-11 11-barrelled 30mm close-in weapon system and two HQ-10 short-range surface-to-air missiles.

With the size of the PLAN Marine Corps set to rise from its current 20,000 troops to somewhere close to 100,000, China's navy will have an urgent need for LHDs.

The PLAN's largest amphibious support vessels at the moment are four Type 071 LPDs, although a fifth is under construction and a sixth is expected. Beijing had previously offered Malaysia this class of ship.

Interestingly, CSOC also showed a model of the Type 001 Liaoning aircraft carrier at LIMA 2017 as well, further underscoring China's efforts to make carrier acquisitions as routine and acceptable as possible.
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Now this is something i dont mind we get from china whistling.gif

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QUOTE(azriel @ Mar 21 2017, 07:44 PM)
LIMA 2017: CSIC discloses further details of Littoral Mission Ship proposal for Malaysia

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http://www.janes.com/article/68870/lima-20...al-for-malaysia
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Not like the suppose to be LMS.....because LMS, like RSN has container dock at the back to equip for different task. If this is the LMS that we are going to buy, I dont see any multi-mission capabilities.
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 21 2017, 10:09 PM)
actually they did.. though only rifles which is just small arms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T91_assault_rifle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T65_assault_rifle
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Thanks, did not no that.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 21 2017, 10:35 PM)
Now this is something i dont mind we get from china whistling.gif
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Actually need more a flat deck than a LPD. Having a flat deck type means more helis can be deploy especially when in patrol in eastern peninsula water. So with the right number of vessel. Is will be 365 day of continuous patrol. Thus saving fuel for helicopter to fly for patrol and back to Sabah or Sarawak. Its also could be use effectively as a ASW and ASUW warefare vessel when the Superlynx are station on it. So it use is no limitation.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Mar 21 2017, 10:37 PM)
Not like the suppose to be LMS.....because LMS, like RSN has container dock at the back to equip for different task. If this is the LMS that we are going to buy, I dont see any multi-mission capabilities.
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I hope they change to 57mm. With this configuration it more to MMEA boat.
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lelz.. totally conflicting statement... cause neighbor more kawan with prc's adversary
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Not like the suppose to be LMS.....because LMS, like RSN has container dock at the back to equip for different task. If this is the LMS that we are going to buy, I dont see any multi-mission capabilities.
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UK govt wants Malaysian companies to supply equipment to British armed forces

MARCH 21ST, 3:55 PM
BY HANI SHAMIRA SHAHRUDIN
LANGKAWI: The UK government wants Malaysian companies to consider supplying equipment to the British armed forces, as they have been extremely impressed by the high quality of equipment produced by local companies.

UK Trade and Investment, Defence and Security Organisation Senior Press Officer Adam Thomas said, after attending the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace exhibition (Lima) for several years, the UK government has been highly impressed by investments and researches made by Malaysian companies, which led to them producing high quality equipment.

“The UK government is encouraging companies to look to the UK to supply to our armed forces.

“We would like to use this opportunity to get Malaysian companies to look at the following website www.contracts.mod.uk, where Malaysian companies can register their (products and) capabilities with the Department of Defence.

“I think they should (register), because we are very, very impressed with the Malaysian companies here today,” he said when met at Lima 2017.

Thomas said one of the best ways forward is for Malaysian companies to have a joint venture with UK companies to access the UK market.

“We would like to see, in the future, Malaysian companies not only supplying for the Royal Malaysian Air Force but also to the (UK) Defence Ministry too.

“So we would like to welcome you to the UK market. There are no barriers, but the challenges are, of course, that they would have to maintain a piece of equipment which are about 6,000 or 7,000 miles away,” he said.

To date, 42 per cent of the UK’s armed forces equipment are supplied from countries all over the world.

Thomas said his team has taken note of the quality of vehicles, equipment and on the maritime side, including boats and the UK encouraged all Malaysian companies to register on the website.

“If they successfully supply to the UK, we can have joint agreements to supply to third party markets across the world (in the future).

"If it (the equipment) is good enough for Malaysian armed forces, why isn't it good enough for the UK armed forces too?,” he said.

He said the UK government will be using Lima 2017 as a platform to invite Malaysian companies to look for opportunities in the UK market.

He also congratulated the organisers and Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak for organising “a fantastic show.”

https://www.google.com.sg/amp/www.nst.com.my/node/223043/amp

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UK govt wants Malaysian companies to supply equipment to British armed forces

MARCH 21ST, 3:55 PM
BY HANI SHAMIRA SHAHRUDIN
LANGKAWI: The UK government wants Malaysian companies to consider supplying equipment to the British armed forces, as they have been extremely impressed by the high quality of equipment produced by local companies.

UK Trade and Investment, Defence and Security Organisation Senior Press Officer Adam Thomas said, after attending the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace exhibition (Lima) for several years, the UK government has been highly impressed by investments and researches made by Malaysian companies, which led to them producing high quality equipment.

“The UK government is encouraging companies to look to the UK to supply to our armed forces.

“We would like to use this opportunity to get Malaysian companies to look at the following website www.contracts.mod.uk, where Malaysian companies can register their (products and) capabilities with the Department of Defence.

“I think they should (register), because we are very, very impressed with the Malaysian companies here today,” he said when met at Lima 2017.

Thomas said one of the best ways forward is for Malaysian companies to have a joint venture with UK companies to access the UK market.

“We would like to see, in the future, Malaysian companies not only supplying for the Royal Malaysian Air Force but also to the (UK) Defence Ministry too.

“So we would like to welcome you to the UK market. There are no barriers, but the challenges are, of course, that they would have to maintain a piece of equipment which are about 6,000 or 7,000 miles away,” he said.

To date, 42 per cent of the UK’s armed forces equipment are supplied from countries all over the world.

Thomas said his team has taken note of the quality of vehicles, equipment and on the maritime side, including boats and the UK encouraged all Malaysian companies to register on the website.

“If they successfully supply to the UK, we can have joint agreements to supply to third party markets across the world (in the future).

"If it (the equipment) is good enough for Malaysian armed forces, why isn't it good enough for the UK armed forces too?,” he said.

He said the UK government will be using Lima 2017 as a platform to invite Malaysian companies to look for opportunities in the UK market.

He also congratulated the organisers and Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak for organising “a fantastic show.”

https://www.google.com.sg/amp/www.nst.com.my/node/223043/amp
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'ayat bodek'....

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Russia Keen To Upgrade Malaysian Combat Aircraft MiG-29N To MiG-29SM[SIZE=7]

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Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation has offered to modernize Malaysia’s MiG-29N fighter jets to MiG-29SM.

Russia also intends to deliver repair services, Sputnik news reported today.

"We are ready to provide full repair for these fighter jets and modernize them to MiG-29SM. We have brought a MiG-29SM simulator to this exhibition," a representative of Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) told Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, during his visit to the international aerospace and maritime exhibition LIMA-2017.

MiG-29SM is a multi-role combat aircraft carrying high-precision weapons capable of destroying air and surface targets. The series is considered to be one of the best jet fighters of the fourth generation.

The prime minister listened to the UAC's offers concerning Russian combat aircraft MiG-35 and MiG-29K (carrier-based). The Langkawi International Maritime & Aerospace Exhibition (LIMA) is an annual event taking place in Malaysia's resort Langkawi.

This year the exhibition will last from March 21 to 25, with Russia presenting fighter jets, submarines and amphibious aircraft. LIMA is the largest exhibition in the Asia Pacific region, which accounts for 45 percent of Russian military equipment sales


http://www.defenseworld.net/news/18776/Rus...SM#.WNGKB2-GPZ4
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 22 2017, 04:28 AM)
Meanwhile,

Russia Keen To Upgrade Malaysian Combat Aircraft MiG-29N To MiG-29SM[SIZE=7]

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yea..yea upgrade to SM & then 1 new rafale's squadron. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Mar 21 2017, 10:37 PM)
Not like the suppose to be LMS.....because LMS, like RSN has container dock at the back to equip for different task. If this is the LMS that we are going to buy, I dont see any multi-mission capabilities.
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from Jane's article,
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The platform can carry one 20 ft containerised mission module on deck in the aft section, and can deploy and recover two rigid hull inflatable boats (RHIBs) from launchers located at stern. This gives the ship the flexibility to be configured for a variety of missions including search-and-rescue, humanitarian assistance and disaster relief (HADR) and maritime surveillance operations.
http://www.janes.com/article/68870/lima-2017-csic-discloses-further-details-of-littoral-mission-ship-proposal-for-malaysia
or it's no the same one?

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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Mar 22 2017, 10:03 AM)
from Jane's article,

or it's no the same one?
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Maybe I miss this....because I am not seen enough space for container at the back
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good news , we should consider
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 22 2017, 04:28 AM)
Meanwhile,

Russia Keen To Upgrade Malaysian Combat Aircraft MiG-29N To MiG-29SM[SIZE=7]

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http://www.defenseworld.net/news/18776/Rus...SM#.WNGKB2-GPZ4
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Unlikely the rmaf will agrees to it which might just dampem their mrca hope if the mig 29 were to be upgraded.

The bean counter will use this excuse to further delay the mrca procrument. But then again, if rmaf hand are tied, they cant do anything also but to accept
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 22 2017, 10:26 AM)
Unlikely the rmaf will agrees to it which might just dampem their mrca hope if the mig 29 were to be upgraded.

The bean counter will use this excuse to further delay the mrca procrument. But then again, if rmaf hand are tied, they cant do anything also but to accept
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looks like the french is really on the go with rafale

Anyhow, what is happening basically, the French wants us to sign for 18 Rafales and they hoping it will be the centre piece of their president’s visit next week, March 27.
http://www.malaysiandefence.com/rafale-oui/
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JUST SIGN THE DAMM MRCA!!!


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Published: Tuesday, 21 March 2017 17:19

LIMA 2017: Damen Unveils its new MRSS Design Proposal for Royal Malaysian Navy

At LIMA 2017, the Langkawi International Maritime And Aerospace Exhibition currently held in Malaysia, Damen shipyards of the Netherlands unveiled a new design proposal for the Royal Malaysian Navy's (RMN) Multi-Role Supply Ship (MRSS) requirement. Damen's MRSS is based on its Enforcer product line of landing platform docks (LPD), more precisely, the Enforcer 10000.

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Damen MRSS Enforcer 10000 LPD LIMA 2017

Talking to Navy Recognition during the show, a Damen representative said he could not discuss Damen's existing or future local partner but explained the Enforcer design is particulary suited to the RMN's needs.

The Enforcer 10000 measures 157 meters in length with a beam of 24.8 meters. Its range is 10,000 nautical miles. It is capable of transporting 400 to 700 troops as well as two LCMs in the well deck and two LCVPs in davits. Finally it is fitted with two to three helicopter spots.

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Damen MRSS Enforcer 10000 LPD LIMA 2017
     
According to Damen, The Enforcer LPD is characterised by a stern dock that creates a sheltered environment for the deployment of Landing Craft in adverse conditions, including Sea State 4. This feature results in an extensive weather window enabling operations for 80% of the time worldwide, whereas alternative concepts usually manage only 30%.

The Enforcer design includes various essential, though cost-effective, survivability features:
- Watertight integrity: Compliance to damage stability requirements in docked conditions with unobstructed cargo deck access. No doors between compartments below bulkhead deck.
- Damage control facilities & Fire-fighting systems
- Signature Enhancements: Noise control, RCS Shaping, Ir suppression, Degaussing
- Vulnerability enhancements: NBC Protection, Shock proofing, Blast bulkheads, redundancy on mission-critical system.

There is at least one more contender for MRSS: Malaysian shipyard Boustead and its partner PT Pal from Indonesia. A MoU between the two companies was signed during Indodefence in Jakarta last year. In Malaysia, Damen is partnering with local shipyard Destini Shipbuilding for the delivery of three new OPVs to the Malaysian coast guard (MMEA).


http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/n...ysian-navy.html
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JUST SIGN THE DAMM MRCA!!!
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 22 2017, 10:40 AM)
looks like the french is really on the go with rafale

Anyhow, what is happening basically, the French wants us to sign for 18 Rafales and they hoping it will be the centre piece of their president’s visit next week, March 27.
http://www.malaysiandefence.com/rafale-oui/
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Must be from the botched deal from india..

Then again 18 rafeles.. what other goodies they willing to give if wang us to sign then and now?
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Once hearf the mrss will be funded.. the predatos come flocking again haha
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 22 2017, 11:05 AM)
Must be from the botched deal from india..

Then again 18 rafeles.. what other goodies they willing to give if wang us to sign then and now?
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2 more submarine
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 22 2017, 01:05 PM)
Must be from the botched deal from india..

Then again 18 rafeles.. what other goodies they willing to give if wang us to sign then and now?
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kasi free ok?


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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Mar 21 2017, 07:43 PM)
Taiwan self made La Fayette-class frigate smaller version invisible type..
if Malaysia buy from Taiwan cheaper price..what u guy think?
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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 22 2017, 11:12 AM)
2 more submarine
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Two more scorpene could easily cost those 18 fighter jets.


QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 22 2017, 11:14 AM)
kasi free ok?


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What the point if we lack awacs to support the bvraam metoer?

It will end up shooting blind as the figther itself radar range is not as far as the missile range. Awacs need to bridge tat gap and early detections
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 22 2017, 04:28 AM)
Meanwhile,

Russia Keen To Upgrade Malaysian Combat Aircraft MiG-29N To MiG-29SM[size=7]

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http://www.defenseworld.net/news/18776/Rus...SM#.WNGKB2-GPZ4
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AIROD MIG-29NM



The aircraft proposed by Airod's Aerospace Technology Systems Corporation, in conjunction with Malaysia's Sukhoi Technical Centre, would receive a new high-resolution, fire-control radar; improved cockpit ergonomics; and better avionics, while the type’s airframe life would be extended to 6,000h from the current 4,000h.

In addition, the aircraft would have greater commonality with Malaysia’s fleet of Su-30MKMs. The work would be done in Malaysia under licence from RAC MiG.


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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3520536/+520

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2...grade/70496604/

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 22 2017, 01:32 PM)
Two more scorpene could easily cost those 18 fighter jets.
What the point if we lack awacs to support the bvraam metoer?

It will end up shooting blind as the figther itself radar range is not as far as the missile range. Awacs need to bridge tat gap and early detections
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awac cannot gip free... hu huuu
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Indonesian Main Battle Tank Leopard 2RI In Action



Indonesian Main Battle Tank Leopard 2RI In Action. Specifically outfitted with bustle-mounted air conditioning systems to suit Indonesia’s tropical climate.
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 22 2017, 10:54 AM)
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Nah it is more about political will.
Currently military budget only having to paid for two major project av8 and the sgpv.
It is more likely for the government to wait for av8 project complete before going for mrca as it was less burden to its budget.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 22 2017, 11:32 AM)
Two more scorpene could easily cost those 18 fighter jets.
What the point if we lack awacs to support the bvraam metoer?

It will end up shooting blind as the figther itself radar range is not as far as the missile range. Awacs need to bridge tat gap and early detections
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I prefer we goes for saab leasing proposal.
Lease sampai 2030 by then we can find gooding 5th generation fighter available for us.
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Rafale deals got Awacs
So does Super Hornet but only if RMAF buy 36 hornet then get 4 E2D
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Rafale deals got Awacs
So does Super Hornet but only if RMAF buy 36 hornet then get 4 E2D
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Rafale offers which awacs?
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Rafale deals got Awacs
So does Super Hornet but only if RMAF buy 36 hornet then get 4 E2D
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Which aways include in the rafale deal?
No MPA come together in the deal?
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Rafale deals got Awacs
So does Super Hornet but only if RMAF buy 36 hornet then get 4 E2D
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That.... actually sounds good.

But I don't dare to even imagine the price tag....!
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36 super hornet + 4 e2d + weapons package + maintenance + spare.
I think it going to cost malaysia usd4bil max.
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Rafale offers which awacs?
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the same like before the Erieye, but not sure on what platform
it's more to SAAB offset
even before this when Gripen was rumored for leased the Erieye is under different set of deals and circumstances

QUOTE(James831 @ Mar 22 2017, 02:46 PM)
Which aways include in the rafale deal?
No MPA come together in the deal?
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MPA under different deals

QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 22 2017, 02:53 PM)
36 super hornet + 4 e2d + weapons package + maintenance + spare.
I think it going to cost malaysia usd4bil max.
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Me think +- 5bil
not sure if this original deals include the FMS
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LIMA 2017 Day 1: Maritime Segment International Presence









Day 1 video coverage at LIMA 2017, the Langkawi International Maritime And Aerospace Exhibition held in Malaysia. We are focusing on the international presence at the maritime segment.
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36 super hornet + 4 e2d + weapons package + maintenance + spare.
I think it going to cost malaysia usd4bil max.
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This best deal if offer. Anyway French tak buat Awac or AEw plane. They buy from US.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 22 2017, 02:53 PM)
36 super hornet + 4 e2d + weapons package + maintenance + spare.
I think it going to cost malaysia usd4bil max.
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dream on la usd 4b....

for brazilian fighter contest,

36 rafale =8b ++
36 SH = 7.5b
36 gripen = 5b

36 SH + 4 e2d probably going to cost about 9-10b usd
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Must be from the botched deal from india..

Then again 18 rafeles.. what other goodies they willing to give if wang us to sign then and now?
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Ridzwan Rahmat, Langkawi - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
21 March 2017
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Airbus DS is positioning the C295 for a possible MPA contest in Malaysia
The platform is being promoted as a flexible aircraft that can be quickly configured between military transport and maritime patrol roles
A model of the C295 aircraft in maritime patrol configuration at LIMA 2017 in Langkawi. (IHS Markit/Ridzwan Rahmat)
A model of the C295 aircraft in maritime patrol configuration at LIMA 2017 in Langkawi. (IHS Markit/Ridzwan Rahmat)

Airbus Defence and Space (DS) has positioned the C295 in maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) configuration for the Royal Malaysian Air Force's (RMAF's) maritime surveillance requirements, a company official told Jane's at the Langkawi International Maritime (LIMA) exhibition in Malaysia.

The variant is based on the C295 twin turboprop light tactical transport aircraft that is in use with operators such as the Bangladesh Army Aviation.

Although a formal procurement process has not been initiated, Jane's understands that the Malaysian government is considering the acquisition of between four and eight MPA platforms to either progressively replace, or complement the RMAF's existing fleet of Beechcraft B200Ts.

According to specifications provided by Airbus DS, the C295 can attain a range of up to 2,000 n miles with a 6-tonne payload and features an endurance of up to 11 hours. The platform can also be equipped with electro-optical and infrared sensors for anti-submarine warfare (ASW) missions. To prosecute submarines, the platform can also be armed with torpedoes deployed via hard points beneath its wings.

"The aircraft is also flexible and can also be quickly re-configured for either military transport or maritime patrol roles", said Jose Luis Rey, a marketing manager at Airbus DS, in an interview with Jane's at LIMA 2017.

The RMAF was known to operate a fleet of four Beechcraft B200T airframes in MPA configuration, according to data from Jane's. However in December 2016, one of the aircraft crashed near the Butterworth airbase in Penang, killing a crew member onboard and injuring three others.

http://www.janes.com/article/68868/lima-20...mpa-requirement

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 22 2017, 03:23 PM)
the same like before the Erieye, but not sure on what platform
it's  more to SAAB offset
even before this when Gripen was rumored for leased the Erieye is under different set of deals and circumstances
MPA under different deals
Me think +- 5bil
not sure if this original deals include the FMS
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Would be nice if they offer globaleye together

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 22 2017, 02:53 PM)
36 super hornet + 4 e2d + weapons package + maintenance + spare.
I think it going to cost malaysia usd4bil max.
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Super Hornet is not much cheaper than future expected price of F-35A, ~USD 100m per

36 biji F-18 SH already USD 3.6 bil
lets say 200 AIM120 and 100 AIM9, another USD 0.2 bil for easy calc
4 E-2D about USD 200 mil each
Already hit USD 4.6 bil
Plus spares? Training?

Whats our annual procurement budget, USD 1 bil? If we dedicate half of that we'd be spending nearly 10 years paying for it, even more if interest + inflation factored in

And TDM TLDM can forget gettng any other big ticket items too... like 15 to 5....

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M346 trainer
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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Mar 22 2017, 06:39 PM)
1500 bhp vs 620 bhp and yet buffel kalah?! dayum!!!
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weight n grip?

QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 22 2017, 07:44 PM)
Super Hornet is not much cheaper than future expected price of F-35A, ~USD 100m per

36 biji F-18 SH already USD 3.6 bil
lets say 200 AIM120 and 100 AIM9, another USD 0.2 bil for easy calc
4 E-2D about USD 200 mil each
Already hit USD 4.6 bil
Plus spares? Training?

Whats our annual procurement budget, USD 1 bil? If we dedicate half of that we'd be spending nearly 10 years paying for it, even more if interest + inflation factored in

And TDM TLDM can forget gettng any other big ticket items too... like 15 to 5....
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Japan rolls out new military vessel

The second of Japan's largest military ships is now officially on duty.

A commissioning ceremony has been held in Yokohama dockyards near Tokyo.


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Belgium's anti-terror laws raise concern

One year ago, Brussels was subjected to the worst attack in Belgium's history.

Three coordinated bombs went off in the airport and the underground, killing 32 people and wounding hundreds more.

Belgium is still on high alert, but rights groups are concerned by the country's new counter-terrorism measures and allegations of police abuse.
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 22 2017, 05:44 PM)
Super Hornet is not much cheaper than future expected price of F-35A, ~USD 100m per

36 biji F-18 SH already USD 3.6 bil
lets say 200 AIM120 and 100 AIM9, another USD 0.2 bil for easy calc
4 E-2D about USD 200 mil each
Already hit USD 4.6 bil
Plus spares? Training?

Whats our annual procurement budget, USD 1 bil? If we dedicate half of that we'd be spending nearly 10 years paying for it, even more if interest + inflation factored in

And TDM TLDM can forget gettng any other big ticket items too... like 15 to 5....
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usd 4.6b for 36SH and 4 E-2D is way too cheap/low...

just look at the Brazilian fighter contest ,they chose gripen at the price of usd 5b, instead of 36 SH for usd7.5b or 36 rafale for usd 8b

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 22 2017, 05:30 PM)
Would be nice if they offer globaleye together
Itu saja? Why would need another jet trainer when our hawk still can go on
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globaleye is just and newer erieye on different platform

QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 22 2017, 06:12 PM)
Shut it bunny
Later I eat rabbit satay baru ko tau bruce.gif
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now you make me crave fro bunneh satey
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globaleye is just and newer erieye on different platform
now you make me crave fro bunneh satey
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Itu saja? Why would need another jet trainer when our hawk still can go on
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Can you really say that hawk and m339cm is enuf for tudm?

not only just the airframe, but also the LIFT which we lack right now
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Can you really say that hawk and m339cm is enuf for tudm?

not only just the airframe, but also the LIFT which we lack right now
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M339cm is for basic jet training. The hawk 108 is for LIFT. Hawk 208 is for light attack. and yes TUDM lack numbers in LIFT. But for now. With all TUDM plane configure with a pilot and WSO. It still.bearable.
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Russia planning series of defense contracts with Indonesia on Su-35 fighter jets

Military & Defense March 22, 8:17 UTC+3

A military contract on helicopters may follow as well

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LANGKAWI (Malaysia), March 22. /TASS/. A contract to deliver Su-35 multirole fighter jets to Indonesia will be the first in a series of planned defense deals with this country, the director for international cooperation and regional policy at Russia's defense industry conglomerate Rostec said Wednesday.

"Once the Su-35 deal is complete, we plan to engage in naval projects with the Indonesian side," Viktor Kladov, who heads the joint delegation of Rostec and state arms exporter Rosoboronexport, told reporters at the Langkawi International Maritime & Aerospace Exhibition (LIMA) in Malaysia.

A contract on helicopters may follow, the official said, adding that Indonesia also showed interest in Russia’s Be-200 multipurpose amphibious aircraft to tackle wildfires.

"Indonesia is interested in purchasing two or three aircraft of this kind," he said.


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Rafale appears in the lead as Malaysia seeks new fighter jets - defense source

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LANGKAWI, Malaysia, March 22 (Reuters) - France's Rafale fighter jet is emerging as the frontrunner as Malaysia looks to replace its aging fleet of combat aircraft, a source in the Southeast Asian nation's defense ministry said on Wednesday, despite narrowing its defense spending this year.

French President Francois Hollande was expected to make a pitch for the Rafale, made by Dassault Aviation SA, when he and his team visit Malaysia next week, the source said.

"The ministry's top leadership have been promoting the Rafale," said the source, who was not authorized to speak to media on the negotiations.

"It's been done in promotional material for LIMA, and even at top government meetings," the source said, referring to this week's biennial Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition.

Malaysia was looking to buy up to 18 jets in a deal potentially worth more than $2 billion, the source said.

Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein was reported in media as saying that the race for new fighter jets has narrowed down to the Rafale and the Eurofighter Typhoon, built by BAE Systems .

The plan is to replace the Royal Malaysian Air Force's (RMAF) squadron of Russian MiG-29 combat planes, nearly half of which are grounded.

Dassault, which declined comment when approached, has kept a low profile in the race. BAE has been on a consistent and public campaign over the past six years to win the Malaysia contract, even establishing a regional office in the capital, Kuala Lumpur.

Steve Osborne, BAE's sales director for military air and information for the Asia Pacific region, said the Typhoon had a good chance of landing the deal as the company already supplied defense equipment to Malaysia.

"We believe this gives the government of Malaysia the confidence in us that they may go with us...," said Osborne.

An industry and a government source with knowledge of the negotiations said any decision would take at least two more years, as Prime Minister Najib Razak is focused on more domestic concerns in the run up to national polls that must be held by 2018.

Malaysia cut its total defense budget by 12.7 percent to 15.1 billion ringgit ($3.41 billion) this year, as Najib grapples with growing public discontent over rising living costs.

Besides Dassault and BAE, other suitors courting Malaysia are Russia's Sukhoi and Sweden's SAAB, which is selling its single engine Gripen.

Two industry sources said Sukhoi was also in talks with Indonesia, potentially to deliver up to two full squadrons of the new SU-35 planes. An Indonesian ministry official said in November that the ministry was looking to buy "nine or 10" of the planes, though the award had not been finalized.

SAAB, which is proposing a lease arrangement with Malaysia for use of the Gripen, is also in the running for a deal to deliver 36 single engine multi-role combat aircraft to the Philippines, according to an industry source who has direct knowledge of the negotiations.

"We're expecting a decision by the Philippine government between 2018 and 2020. Their procurement process is scheduled to happen between 2021 and 2024," the source said.


Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/22/reuters-ame...nse-source.html

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usd 4.6b for 36SH and 4 E-2D is way too cheap/low...

just look at the Brazilian fighter contest ,they chose gripen at the price of usd 5b, instead of 36 SH for usd7.5b or 36 rafale for usd 8b
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Figures are just based on flyaway cost, ofcourse need to input interest + profit + support costs etc
More likely ~USD 9B doh.gif unless we get mega discount whistling.gif

So can continue dreaming lah
But I agree with TUDM stance to find 2 engine plane
The higher cost is worth it in the end as insurance to preserve airframe and pilot, we already have very few of both
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LIMA 2017: MD 530G to reach Malaysia this year

22nd March 2017 - 12:51 by Gordon Arthur in Langkawi

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MD Helicopters confirmed that the Malaysian Army will receive its first, and possibly second, MD 530G light scout helicopter before the end of 2017.

Speaking to Shephard at the LIMA 2017 exhibition in Langkawi, Craig Kitchen, chief commercial officer of MD Helicopters, said the first two rotorcraft had been certificated, and the next four are coming into build.

He said they will be delivered 'as soon as possible' since the Malaysian Army wanted one or two units in 2017 and the remainder in 2018. Kitchen described a 12-month build schedule for each helicopter.

A signing ceremony for Malaysia's six helicopters was signed at DSA 2016, with the contract valued at RM321 million ($82.6 million). At that time the quoted delivery schedule was two units by December 2016, and the remaining four in May-June 2017.

Kitchen put the delay down to two reasons. One was the time taken to get contractual issues straightened between the various parties and government.

The other reason was due to gaining the necessary certification because of the customised options Malaysia selected. Its MD 530Gs have a full glass cockpit, for example, with an improved mission management system.


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Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/22/reuters-ame...nse-source.html
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SAAB, which is proposing a lease arrangement with Malaysia for use of the Gripen, is also in the running for a deal to deliver 36 single engine multi-role combat aircraft to the Philippines, according to an industry source who has direct knowledge of the negotiations.

"We're expecting a decision by the Philippine government between 2018 and 2020. Their procurement process is scheduled to happen between 2021 and 2024," the source said.
Philippines is buying 36 Gripens?
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The navy chief said the programme should be formally announced in August or September.
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 22 2017, 05:44 PM)
Super Hornet is not much cheaper than future expected price of F-35A, ~USD 100m per

36 biji F-18 SH already USD 3.6 bil
lets say 200 AIM120 and 100 AIM9, another USD 0.2 bil for easy calc
4 E-2D about USD 200 mil each
Already hit USD 4.6 bil
Plus spares? Training?

Whats our annual procurement budget, USD 1 bil? If we dedicate half of that we'd be spending nearly 10 years paying for it, even more if interest + inflation factored in

And TDM TLDM can forget gettng any other big ticket items too... like 15 to 5....
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Not really.
super hornet is way cheaper than f35.
Fly away cost ~usd70mil.
Unless you are talking about the f18G or the Australian version.
That would be expensive and malaysia unlikely to get approval to buy it.
Iirc we were once offer usd1.5bil+ for 18 super hornet + spare.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...ication-154840/

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 22 2017, 03:46 PM)
dream on la usd 4b....

for brazilian fighter contest,

36 rafale =8b ++
36 SH = 7.5b
36 gripen = 5b

36 SH + 4 e2d probably going to cost about 9-10b usd
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That depend on the requirements.
Brazil super hornet is around usd7bil it include ew stuff similar to Australia version.
http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/brazi...hornet-aircraft
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 23 2017, 12:03 AM)
Not really.
super hornet is way cheaper than f35.
Fly away cost ~usd70mil.
Unless you are talking about the f18G or the Australian version.
That would be expensive and malaysia unlikely to get approval to buy it.
Iirc we were once offer usd1.5bil+ for 18 super hornet + spare.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...ication-154840/
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Those are 2002 dollars
USD 1.5 bil then is about USD 2 bil in 2016 dollars

Now some other sources do say 2016 F/A-18 flyaway cost is still 70M, but wiki quotes ~98M, source 2015 DOD budget... I suspect this is total program cost which we should expect to be charged

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 23 2017, 12:38 AM)
Those are 2002 dollars
USD 1.5 bil then is about USD 2 bil in 2016 dollars

Now some other sources do say 2016 F/A-18 flyaway cost is still 70M, but wiki quotes ~98M, source 2015 DOD budget... I suspect this is total program cost which we should expect to be charged
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it more towards hardware addons.
They try standardised passive ew on all their sh.
Without ew equipment it should be around 70mil flyaway cost.

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That depend on the requirements.
Brazil super hornet is around usd7bil it include ew stuff similar to Australia version.
http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/brazi...hornet-aircraft
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still,even earlier SH block 1 wont be as cheap as you suggested before.

QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 22 2017, 02:53 PM)
36 super hornet + 4 e2d + weapons package + maintenance + spare.
I think it going to cost malaysia usd4bil max.
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still,even earlier SH block 1 wont be as cheap as you suggested before.
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Unless Boeing close the production reopening and low production would be very expensive.
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btw, this is dsca annoucement about kuwait SH...10.1b for 40 units
(more expensive than brazil offer probably because of more services/support related)..

btw,the avionics almost similar to the brazil's offer
so it seem that these are the standardized specs for new built SH...


http://dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/governmen...ircraft-support
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still,even earlier SH block 1 wont be as cheap as you suggested before.
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i guest F18 ASH block3 flyway price should be usd 80-90 。。。usd 15mi for ammunition, usd 20 mi for 5 year parts/service. l

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hopefully get FREMM-ER .... but with at lease 48-64 VLS.
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LCS build 0.5 out of 6 already looking at LCS AAW?
Will we operate Aster 30?!

QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 23 2017, 12:57 AM)
Should be around usd70mil.
Unless Boeing close the production reopening and low production would be very expensive.
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Should still be produced for some time to come
Future USN carrier air wing should be 24 F-35C 24 F/A-18E + 3 or 4 more F/A-18 Growler
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globaleye is just and newer erieye on different platform
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globaleye mainly add surface radar to provide superior surface monitoring, means can also do sea radar seach, AIS detection, etc。
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Dafuq
LCS build 0.5 out of 6 already looking at LCS AAW?
Will we operate Aster 30?!
Should still be produced for some time to come
Future USN carrier air wing should be 24 F-35C 24 F/A-18E + 3 or 4 more F/A-18 Growler
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base on our navy use US standard weapon missile
LCS AAW possible with 4 fix panal Sea Master 400 radar + SM2 missile (wish) + CAMM-ER+ SeaRAM2 for 3 layer defense。

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hopefully get FREMM-ER .... but with at lease 48-64 VLS.
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I'll settle for 40 Sylver
32 Aster 30, 16 Crotale Navale and 4 SCALP brows.gif
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base on our navy use US standard weapon missile
LCS AAW possible with 4 fix panal Sea Master 400 radar + SM2 missile (wish) + CAMM-ER+ SeaRAM2 for 3 layer defense。
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Rojak giler
French ship, US + British missiles laugh.gif

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i guest F18 ASH block3 flyway price should be usd 80-90 。。。usd 15mi for ammunition, usd 20 mi for 5 year parts/service. l
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SH block iii is still at the demonstrator phase. although trump had ordered a study between SH and f35, its not yet a sure case.
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SH block iii is still at the demonstrator phase. although trump had ordered a study between SH and f35, its not yet a sure case.
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This best deal if offer. Anyway French tak buat Awac or AEw plane. They buy from US.
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France Airbus have C295 AEW ... but radar/system is from Israel+Thales.
if got money can fund project A319 Erieye or A319 AEW with C295 AEW radar system also can
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SH block iii is still at the demonstrator phase. although trump had ordered a study between SH and f35, its not yet a sure case.
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SH block iii long time done project already, and offer to few country AF, include RMAF since 2013, but so far only Kuwaiti is order F18 not sure what version.
off couse if customize extra future module different story。

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I'll settle for 40 Sylver
32 Aster 30, 16 Crotale Navale and 4 SCALP brows.gif
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.....while I'm dreaming, Miss Universe and 5 million dollars too... sigh doh.gif doh.gif
Rojak giler
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but sylver can't do quadpack missile。 using MK41 can have ESSM or future CAMM-ER & JSM missile VLS... CAMM quardpack so far only develop for Mk41 and ExLS vls
SCALP i like very like too, but under international weapon control can't export missile over 300km range。 so France can't export to as。

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but sylver can't do quadpack missile。 using MK41 can have ESSM or future CAMM-ER & JSM missile VLS...  CAMM quardpack so far only develop for Mk41  and ExLS vls
SCALP  i like very like too, but under international weapon control can't export missile over 300km range。 so France can't export to as。
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Well, unless DCNS offer Mk 41 VLS so we can fit in SM2, ESSMs and JSM, we're stuck
Sylver can quadpack Crotale... alternatively, mix MICA and Aster 30 - don't know if there are space+weight savings there

Nah, don't really care for SCALP - much rather have 12 or even 16 shots NSM brows.gif

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6 gowind + 6 FREMM for Malaysia. One can dream...

but based on budget allocation and our current building speed for the first Gowind.... maybe 2040 at least before we can see the new navy taking shape. by that time neighbouring countries probably on another level....
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 22 2017, 11:25 PM)
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They are pushing the 2nd batch and 3 batch
as all 3 batch have different type of role

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Dafuq
LCS build 0.5 out of 6 already looking at LCS AAW?
Will we operate Aster 30?!
Should still be produced for some time to come
Future USN carrier air wing should be 24 F-35C 24 F/A-18E + 3 or 4 more F/A-18 Growler
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LCS duit navy sendiri should be ok
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btw, this is dsca annoucement about kuwait SH...10.1b for 40 units
(more expensive than brazil offer probably because of more services/support related)..

btw,the avionics almost similar to the brazil's offer
so it seem that these are the standardized specs for new built SH...
http://dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/governmen...ircraft-support
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The latest super hornet version.
Huhu with all the premium.
adding new cockpit, cft and reduce rcs.
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It will be the same Gowind hull lengthen. If its is a AAV most probable Ester15/30. The same hull but different configuration. Concept used by south korea and US. So no new class of hull and will be cheaper in long run as BHS has the know how.
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They are pushing the 2nd batch and 3 batch
as all 3 batch have different type of role
LCS duit navy sendiri should be ok
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1st batch is ASW

2nd batch is AAR

3rd batch is? Combined ASW/AAR? Multirole?

Anyway based on dcns response, it look like the aaw would quite similar to our neighbour formidable class vessel. Meaning syvler vls to similarize with the existing batch but diff different radar system.

High possibility of the APAR radar on the intergrated mast system.. somehow we are hooked onto the idea.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 23 2017, 07:19 AM)
1st batch is ASW

2nd batch is AAR

3rd batch is? Combined ASW/AAR? Multirole?

Anyway based on dcns response, it look like the aaw would quite similar to our neighbour formidable class vessel. Meaning syvler vls to similarize with the existing batch but diff different radar system.

High possibility of the APAR radar on the intergrated mast system.. somehow we are hooked onto the idea.
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With MPSS coming, TLDM need top cover escort. So most probably TLDM will have MPSS next with the LCS batch 2 build in parallel. The LCS batch 1 and 2 will be the escort ship for any amphibious operation.
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6 gowind + 6 FREMM for Malaysia. One can dream...

but based on budget allocation and our current building speed for the first Gowind.... maybe 2040 at least before we can see the new navy taking shape. by that time neighbouring countries probably on another level....
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if see price, FREMM not really expensive if not TOT/IP.
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LIMA already 3rd day..any promising news for ATM new procurement?

3rd day already i can go LIMA..just arrived in langkawi

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It will be the same Gowind hull lengthen. If its is a AAV most probable Ester15/30. The same hull but different configuration. Concept used by south korea and US. So no new class of hull and will be cheaper in long run as BHS has the know how.
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well if see LCS construction picture, LCS hull too small (not enough deep) to install Sylver 50 VLS system for Aster30. it need increase to around 4000 tons for capable install 32 VLS ... so better get DCNS FTI Medium-Size or FREMM-ER Frigates.

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Well, unless DCNS offer Mk 41 VLS so we can fit in SM2, ESSMs and JSM, we're stuck
Sylver can quadpack Crotale... alternatively, mix MICA and Aster 30 - don't know if there are space+weight savings there

Nah, don't really care for SCALP - much rather have 12 or even 16 shots NSM  brows.gif
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well DCNS in Australia Frigate project is offer MK41.
Crotale too old and short range.
Best combination option
1) Smarts-L lwc radar + APAR2 radar +Mk41
2) Sea Fire 500 integrated imask + Sylver vls
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if see price, FREMM not really expensive if not TOT/IP.
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Malaysian government and TLDM mentality is all naval ship to be made in malaysia. Even MMEA ship will be made in malaysia. Design can be from any country. The LMS will also be made in malaysia. The first 2 will be made i china to finalise the design with BNS personal attached to learn Chinas production method. Only ships that they cannot do due to size or shipyard capability then be made by conuntry of origin. So changing of hull will always with TOT.
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well if see LCS construction picture, LCS hull too small (not enough deep) to install Sylver 50 VLS system for Aster30. it need increase to around 4000 tons for capable install 32 VLS ... so better get DCNS FTI Medium-Size or FREMM-ER Frigates.
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Hull design can be the same. It jus adaption. Increase and lengthening of hull. Same as meko series ship.
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MINDEF awards contract for new Armoured Fighting Vehicle
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SINGAPORE: The Ministry of Defence (MINDEF) has awarded a contract to Singapore Technologies Engineering for the production and supply of a new Armoured Fighting Vehicle (AFV).

In a press release on Wednesday (Mar 22), the ministry said the new vehicle will replace the ageing ULTRA M113 AFV, which has been in service since the early 1970s.



The development of the new AFV started in 2006, a project undertaken by the Defence Science and Technology Agency together with the local defence industry, MINDEF said.

The vehicle weighs 29 tonnes and has a maximum speed of 70kmh. It will operate alongside the Bionix Infantry Fighting Vehicle.

"The next-generation AFV will provide our armoured forces with enhanced firepower, protection, mobility and situational awareness," MINDEF said.

Delivery of the new AFV will begin in 2019.

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London has Fallen!!: Four victims killed in UK parliament 'terrorist' attack



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LONDON: Four victims were killed and 40 injured after being run over and stabbed in a lightning attack at the gates of British democracy on Wednesday (Mar 22). Police attributed the attack to "Islamist-related terrorism".

The attack unfolded across Westminster Bridge in the shadow of Big Ben, a towering landmark that draws tourists by the millions and stands over Britain's Houses of Parliament - the very image of London.

The attacker's car struck pedestrians on the bridge before crashing into the railings surrounding the heavily-guarded Houses of Parliament, sowing first shock then panic in the seat of British power.

The assailant then ran through the gates brandishing a knife and stabbed a 48-year-old policeman to death before being shot dead by another officer.

Prime Minister Theresa May described the attack as "sick and depraved" and said that "the terrorist chose to strike at the heart of our capital city" in an attack on Britain's democratic values.

Standing outside her Downing Street residence after an emergency cabinet meeting, May voiced defiance and said parliament would meet as normal on Thursday, while Britain's security alert level would be kept unchanged.

"We will all move forward together, never giving in to terror and never allowing the voices of hate and evil to drive us apart," said May, who was dressed in black.

May was in parliament at the time of the attack and was seen being ushered away in a silver car as what sounded like gunfire rang out, British media reported.

London mayor Sadiq Khan issued a statement saying the police were "dealing with the incident and an urgent investigation is underway". He also thanked authorities and emergency services for their hard work and "tremendous bravery".

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'ISLAMIST-RELATED TERRORISM'

Britain's top counter-terrorism officer Mark Rowley said the four victims included a policeman guarding parliament and three members of the public.

"Islamist-related terrorism is our assumption," Rowley told journalists, adding that investigators believed they knew the identity of the assailant who was shot dead by police.

The attack came a year to the day after Islamic State militants killed 32 people in twin bomb attacks in Brussels and after a series of deadly assaults in Europe that had hitherto spared Britain.

Parliament was locked down for several hours and hundreds of lawmakers and visitors were later evacuated to nearby Westminster Abbey and the headquarters of London's Metropolitan Police.

An air ambulance flew in and police cordoned off a large area, while tourists on the London Eye, a popular visitor attraction, were stuck up to 135m in the air for more than an hour during the incident.

"I saw three bodies lying on the ground and a whole lot of police. It was pretty terrifying," said 16-year-old American Jack Hutchinson who was stranded on the observation wheel with his parents.

Foreign Office minister Tobias Ellwood, whose brother Jonathan was killed in the 2002 Bali bombing, was pictured with his face smeared with blood helping to give first aid to the fatally wounded police officer.

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FRENCH, KOREANS, ROMANIANS HURT

Three French pupils on a school trip were among those hurt and a seriously injured woman was rescued from the River Thames following Wednesday's incident.

Five South Korean tourists were wounded, the Yonhap news agency reported, while the Romanian foreign ministry said two Romanians were also injured.

A doctor at nearby St Thomas' Hospital said they were treating people with "catastrophic" injuries.

Press Association news agency photos believed to be of the attacker lying on an ambulance stretcher showed he was wearing black clothes and had a beard.

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'REAL SENSE OF PANIC'

British lawmaker Mary Creagh told AFP there was "a real sense of panic" as the attack unfolded.

Polish former foreign minister Radoslaw Sikorski was in a taxi on the bridge and said a car "mowed down at least five people ... one of them bleeding profusely".

Pictures of what happened next showed two people being attended to on the ground inside the vehicle entrance gates of parliament, with a knife visible on the cobblestones.

Three shots were heard on video footage.

Jason Groves, the Daily Mail newspaper's political editor, said he saw the officer firing "with a handgun, and then gets closer to him and shoots him again from over him and he doesn't get up".

A Twitter user @ClaudiaScore said she had been on the bridge when she heard a loud bang. Video footage she recorded showed a car crashed into a railing with its bonnet still smoking.

On her Twitter page, Claudia said she "tried to check on the guy stuck under the car but couldn't get to him" and that he "looked in really bad shape". "I'm shaken up to say the least," she added.

An eyewitness at the scene tweeted that he heard what sounded like an explosion and raised voices outside parliament.

"I saw people running past the entrance to the New Palace Yard entrance to parliament, and then at least one person try to run into the Yard itself. A police officer chased this person and then wrestled them to the ground," tweeted Owen Bennett, who is the deputy political editor of the Huffington Post UK.

"Shots were then fired, but I can't remember how many and I didn't see who fired them."

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'WE ARE NOT AFRAID'

Britain's allies reacted with shock and vowed to stand with London in the fight against terror.

US President Donald Trump and French President Francois Hollande both spoke to May and Chancellor Angela Merkel said Germany stood with Britons "against all forms of terrorism".

Lights on the Eiffel Tower in Paris will also be switched off at midnight in solidarity with victims of the attack.

Social media users shared an altered image of a London Underground sign reading "We Are Not Afraid" and the hashtag #PrayforLondon trended on Twitter.

Britain's last terror attack was the assassination of Member of Parliament Jo Cox by a pro-Nazi sympathiser in her constituency in northern England last June.

The worst previous attack in London was in 2005 when four British suicide bombers inspired by Al-Qaeda attacked the transport system, killing 52 innocent people.

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Hull design can be the same. It jus adaption. Increase and lengthening of hull. Same as meko series ship.
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Meko have different model A100, A200。 A200 already middle class frigate at 3000-4000 tonne class(not lcs spec)
Gowind 3000 series LCS so far is large model and is max length.. we need more deep hull means more long length and tonne to install sylver 50 vls,
unless we want make 4000 tone gowinds?
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LIMA 2017: MALAYSIA RECEIVES SIMULATOR FOR H120

Thales delivered a flight and navigation procedures trainer (FNPT II) to Malaysian company Gadang Kasturi, which has been using it for training Royal Malaysian Air Force pilots on the H120 helicopter at the Royal Air Force College in Alor Setar since December last year. This marks Thales’ first sale of a flight simulator to the Malaysian market.

The simulator allows RMAF pilots to receive initial training without the use of operational aircraft as has been the case previously. They can also receive training in scenarios not easily accomplished on real aircraft, such as system failures and emergency procedures.

The delivery signals what the company characterises as “the beginning of a strong partnership in the field of flight simulation” with Gading Kasturi. The development of the FNPT, based on the systems currently in use with French Army light aviation units, also involved a collaboration with small French contractor 6MOUV, specialists in tailored flight simulation solutions.

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Meko have different model A100, A200。 A200 already middle class frigate at 3000-4000 tonne class(not lcs spec)
Gowind 3000 series LCS so far is large model and is max length..  we need more deep hull means more long length and tonne to install sylver 50 vls, 
unless we want make 4000 tone gowinds?
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Hull design is the same its the length and width different. What on top depends on the length and width. The heavier your top the longer and wider. Bouyancy related. For hull is more on how efficient the ship goes to the water. All shipbulider will experiment on hull design. This is where most of the RND is done.
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For some time now, and for the very logical reason that "stop ship, this is MMEA" is not as universally translatable or to the point as "stop ship, this is Malaysia Coast Guard"
QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 23 2017, 10:49 AM)
All shipbulider will experiment on hull design. This is where most of the RND is done.
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also where the bulk of design costs kick in.

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 23 2017, 07:19 AM)
1st batch is ASW

2nd batch is AAR

3rd batch is? Combined ASW/AAR? Multirole?

Anyway based on dcns response, it look like the aaw would quite similar to our neighbour formidable class vessel. Meaning syvler vls to similarize with the existing batch but diff different radar system.

High possibility of the APAR radar on the intergrated mast system.. somehow we are hooked onto the idea.
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I remember first batch is ASW and second is AAD
third I dont recall

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Taiwan plans show to reel in more to join its army

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With many of the young shying away from signing up with the army even as Taiwan prepares to scrap conscription from next year, it plans to roll out the big guns - as well as high jinks and romance - to woo potential recruits.

Taiwan's Defence Ministry will be spending NT$12.8 million (S$590,000) to produce a 16-episode military drama serial tentatively titled The Best Choice, an effort that has drawn comparisons with the popular South Korean drama Descendants Of The Sun shown last year.

The K-drama, about the romance between a special forces captain and his doctor girlfriend, reportedly led to more South Koreans turning up at an army enrolment exercise.

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Responding to reporters' questions on Monday, Taiwan's National Defence Ministry spokesman Chen Chung-chi played down comparisons with the South Korean show. "We have our own style, culture and standards. We hope that the Taiwanese public will like our version."

While the storyline and cast of The Best Choice is still being finalised ahead of filming next month, its director Liang Hsiu-shen, who previously acted in 1970s military education videos, said the show would be "lively and romantic".

While the Defence Ministry cannot confirm if this is the first drama serial that they are funding, analysts say it is generally uncommon for government ministries to sponsor dramas.

The Taiwan military usually produces its own print, television and online advertisements to raise its public profile. It hopes that the upcoming drama will inspire more people to sign up as career soldiers.

Currently, about six in 10 people in Taiwan's 200,000-strong military are career soldiers, falling short of the target of nine in 10 in order for conscription to be scrapped.

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Many Taiwanese stay away from the military because they feel the highly regimented lifestyle is not commensurate with the pay. At the same time, the military is struggling with its image following a series of accidents, including a recent report of air force officers being tested for illicit drug use.

A recent poll by the China Times newspaper found that only 29 per cent say they have confidence in the ability of the Taiwan military.

In recent weeks, Taiwan has also unveiled plans to increase defence spending and develop more weapons in response to China's increased military posturing.

Military-themed dramas and movies are an evergreen genre in Taiwan. The most recent one is Soldier, a 2011 work by TV station Sanlih Entertainment Television. Others include the popular Yes Sir movie, which came out in 1987 and spawned seven sequels featuring big names like Takeshi Kaneshiro.

But it is not known how effective they were in boosting recruitment.

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Former deputy defence minister Andrew Yang said such military-themed shows are a "waste of money" as their impact is limited.

He also warned against over-glamourising military life. "You don't want people who eventually qualify and join the military to end up feeling duped when they realise they are not cut out for the tough training and discipline," said Dr Yang, secretary-general of the Chinese Council of Advanced Policy Studies.

Professor Lin Lih-yun, from the National Taiwan University's Graduate School of Journalism, said the military will need to be more creative in storytelling to strike a chord with people. "Youths nowadays are more savvy and may be turned off when they feel they are watching propaganda."

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I remember first batch is ASW and second is AAD
third I dont recall
It' easily recognizable and easier to communicate.
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Sanctions won't halt nuclear programme: North Korean envoy

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GENEVA • North Korea has nothing to fear from any US move to broaden sanctions aimed at cutting it off from the global financial system and will pursue "acceleration" of its nuclear and missile programmes, a North Korean envoy told Reuters.

This includes developing a "pre-emptive first strike capability" and an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), said Mr Choe Myong Nam, deputy ambassador at the North Korean mission to the United Nations in Geneva.

"Even prohibition of the international transactions system, the global financial system, this kind of thing is part of their system that will not frighten us or make any difference."

He called existing sanctions "heinous and inhumane".

North Korea has been under sanctions for "half a century" but the communist state survives by placing an emphasis on juche, or "self-sufficiency", he said. His country wants a forum set up to examine the "legality and legitimacy of the sanctions regime".

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He denounced ongoing joint annual military exercises being carried out by the US and South Korea on the divided peninsula and criticised remarks by US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson during his talks with regional allies last week.

"All he was talking about is for the United States to take military actions on DPRK," Mr Choe said, using the acronym for the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Mr Choe declined to give technical details of North Korea's rocket engine test on Sunday - seen as a possible prelude to a partial ICBM flight - calling it a great historical event that would lead to "fruitful outcomes".

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"I can tell you for sure that the intercontinental ballistic rockets of the DPRK will be launched at any time and at any place as decided by our Supreme Leadership," Mr Choe said, recalling leader Kim Jong Un's pledge in a New Year's address.

Meanwhile, North Korea's state media announced that the reclusive country will hold a rare parliamentary session on April 11, which marks the fifth anniversary of Mr Kim's appointment as the chairman of the ruling Workers' Party of Korea.

North Korea will also mark the 105th birth anniversary of founder Kim Il Sung on April 15.

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Indonesian Army Leopard 2RI MBT AMAP Composite Armor. Credit to Carlos @owl__hoot.

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singkie vs indon version.. what's the difference?
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ASuW  - anti surface warfare
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Both are using the same AMAP Composite Armor by IBD Deisenroth. The Indonesian Leopard 2RI is equipped with Night Vision Camera at the front and rear of the tank for the driver.

Comparision:

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nope only the NSM
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Even model on display already shows 8 pack launcher for the NSM though earlier model render actually shows the launcher type for Exocet

if ASuW.. i would expect more launcher for a bigger missile capacity or a combination of NSM and Ecoxet missiles

then it could also be batch 3 to be general purpose type like the italy fremm laugh.gif

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Singapore version i believe more suitable for urban warfare
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Both are using the same AMAP Composite Armor by IBD Deisenroth. The Indonesian Leopard 2RI is equipped with Night Vision Camera at the front and rear of the tank for the driver.

Comparision:

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Kurganets-25 - New Russian IFV




Designer: Kurgan Machine-Building, Kurganmashzavod
Manufacturer: Kurganmashzavod
Produced: 2015

Weight: 25 tonnes (28 short tons)
Crew: 3 (+8 passengers)

Main Armament
Kurganets-25 IFV: Bumerang-BM turret
Kurganets-25 APC: 12.7 mm Kord machine gun

Engine: 800 hp
Power/weight: 32 hp/tonne
Suspension: Torsion Bar

Speed
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On Water: 10 km/h (6.2 mph; 5.4 kn)
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Well I don't know if Leo 2SG also have these features but iinm both the Indonesian Army Leo 2RI & Leo 2A4 are equipped with Jenoptik all-electric turret and weapon stabilization systems. That is why Indonesia Leo 2A4 is designated as the Leo 2A4+.

The Leo 2RI have the capability to fire the latest Rheinmetall 120mm DM11 programmable high-explosive round.

http://www.janes.com/article/39370/leopard...eastward-es14e2

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On behalf of a German systems supplier, the Jenoptik Defense & Civil Systems division will equip military land vehicles with turret and weapon stabilization systems and with 17-kW Auxiliary Power Units.

28 April 2014

Jenoptik received the two orders, worth 13.5 million euros in total, from Rheinmetall, a leading German manufacturer of security and defense technology. Until the end of 2015, Jenoptik will supply all-electric turret and weapon stabilization systems as well as 17-kW Auxiliary Power Units (APUs) for retrofitting tanks of the Leopard 2 type, which will be delivered to the Republic of Indonesia. The stabilization systems contract was awarded at the end of March 2014 already, the APU contract followed in mid-April.


https://www.jenoptik.com/press/pressrelease...y-land-vehicles

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Jenoptik Awarded Auxiliary Power Units Contract For Polish Leopard 2 Tanks

Our Bureau 03:27 PM, March 20, 2017

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Jenoptik Awarded Auxiliary Power Units Contract For Polish Leopard 2 Tanks

The Jenoptik Defense & Civil Systems segment is to supply 17-kilowatt auxiliary power units and electric turret and weapon stabilization for the Leopard 2 tank.

Jenoptik was awarded the contracts at the beginning of 2017 as a part of a Polish modernization program for the Leopard 2 tank. The Group will supply 126 of the 17-kilowatt auxiliary power units to the Polish company ZM Bumar Labedy S. A. The company Rheinmetall Defence will receive another seven of these units as well as ten electric turret and weapon stabilization systems.

The contracts worth 10.6 million euros will be processed in cooperation with Polish subcontractors. Delivery is scheduled for the years 2017 to 2020.

The electric turret and weapon stabilization systems replace the hydraulic systems used to date. They are for the most part maintenance-free and generate less heat inside the tank. Basically these systems steadily align the turret and weapon while the tank is in motion. The compact auxiliary power units reliably generate electrical energy for the on-board system in the smallest possible space while the engine is switched off.


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ASuW  - anti surface warfare
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NGPC are wired for exocet.
SGPC are wired for NSM.
Wired is not mean the hardware wiring. Its more on the software. All western design missle have Stagnag standard. Even all plane are the same for all western design. For Chinese and russian is different hardware configuration.
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Well I don't know if Leo 2SG also have these features but iinm both the Indonesian Army Leo 2RI & Leo 2A4 are equipped with Jenoptik all-electric turret and weapon stabilization systems. That is why Indonesia Leo 2A4 is designated as the Leo 2A4+.

The Leo 2RI have the capability to fire the latest Rheinmetall 120mm DM11 programmable high-explosive round.

http://www.janes.com/article/39370/leopard...eastward-es14e2
https://www.jenoptik.com/press/pressrelease...y-land-vehicles
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NGPC are wired for exocet.
SGPC are wired for NSM.
Wired is not mean the hardware wiring. Its more on the software. All western design missle have Stagnag standard. Even all plane are the same for all western design. For Chinese and russian is different hardware configuration.
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most CMS is plug n play.. even now day can integrate china weapon into western CMS

though have to pay $$$ EXTRA

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most CMS is plug n play.. even now day can integrate china weapon into western CMS

though have to pay $$$ EXTRA
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For western design ship yes, it plug an play but you need to configure the missile source code and system software. And this will cost money. Yes a ship can mount and deploy 2 tgpe of missile. For Chinese design ship all western weapon can not do plug and play type unless the wiring system for chinese is the same as western stagnag. It just like Iphone and android phone charging cable. Same supply voltage but different connector.
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For western design ship yes, it plug an play but you need to configure the missile source code and system software. And this will cost money. Yes a ship can mount and deploy 2 tgpe of missile. For Chinese design ship all western weapon can not do plug and play type unless the wiring system for chinese is the same as western stagnag. It just like Iphone and android phone charging cable. Same supply voltage but different connector.
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HTMS Naresan, Chinese hull but remodified and rewired to western CMS to equip with western weapon and radar.

For now No Chinese CMS can intergrate with western weapon.
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Demand for Russian Weapons Grows as Langkawi Exhibition 2017 Kicks Off

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The 14th Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace (LIMA) exhibition 2017 has attracted over 555 participants from 36 countries. A total of 101 aircraft, 61 ships and boats will be on aerial and static displays.

Reports coming in from LIMA suggest that new contracts are being signed for supplies of Russian arms to countries of Southeast Asia. The regional market is one of the most important for Russia despite its geographical distance.

According to expert from the Center for Strategic Research Anton Tsvetov, the growing demand for Russian weapons speaks not only of the quality of Russian equipment but also of regional tensions.

The terms of contract for the supply of 12-18 multi-purpose SU-35 fighters of the 4+ generation are being discussed with Indonesia. The same fighters are being supplied to China. Other potential buyers include Venezuela and Vietnam.

Furthermore, it has become known that a contract for the purchase of two diesel-electric submarines of project 636 Varshavyanka is being discussed with Indonesian partners. Last year, the last of six such submarines was delivered to Vietnam in the framework of a flagship contract for Russian-Vietnamese military-technical cooperation.

The representative of Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) also reported on the supply of an additional batch of Yak-130 combat training aircraft to Myanmar.

Russia’s participation  at the exhibition in Langkawi is another reminder that the Southeast Asian market is of great importance for Russian weapons. The largest buyer of Russian arms remains Vietnam, but for countries such as Malaysia, Russian technology, especially aviation, is critical for combat capability of the armed forces.

According to Tsvetov, the first steps are being taken in the direction of military-technical cooperation with partners such as Thailand and the Philippines as the munitions and military equipment are one of the few markets in Southeast Asia where Russia is highly competitive.

“The relatively inexpensive but high quality weapons can compete in developing markets of the region without bringing “the baggage” in the form of political demands or set standards in the field of democracy or human rights,” the expert said.

In this sense, growing tension in Southeast Asia accounts for the growth of the defense needs.

At the same time, obtaining military assistance from the United States is fraught with a loss of trust with China and has some internal limitations as well. Russia’s motives, in turn, are not being questioned in Beijing.

The expert stressed that it is important to understand that for Russia, arms deals in Southeast Asia  are still more centered around commerce than politics. However, arms exports remain an important tool whose promising political influence should not be underestimated.


https://sputniknews.com/military/2017032310...-weapons-grows/


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Russian Knights SU-30SM solo display test for LIMA 2017 Langkawi



LIMA 2017 | Amazing ROKAF Black Eagles Aerobatic Team





LIMA 2017 Day 2: Military Aircraft and Aerobatic Teams Flight Demonstrations




*Rafale, Gripen, Su-30MKM and F/A-18D fighter jets, as well as Jupiter (Indonesia), Black Eagles (Republic of Korea)t-50 and Russian Knights (Russia) SU30SM aerobatic team*

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ever wonder why the russians very quiet on UAV front?
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SMH they fall behind in UAV development, waaaay behind PRC. only now they are developing their own UAV. but they are far ahead from other on UGV sector
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SMH they fall behind in UAV development, waaaay behind PRC. only now they are developing their own UAV. but they are far ahead from other on UGV sector
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As proven in Syria, mighty Ruskies needs no UAV.... Just level the whole vilage from the sky tongue.gif
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Royal Thai Navy Submarine Yuan Class "Buy 2 Get 1 Free".

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March 23, 2017 09:52

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It’s finally Chinese submarines for Thailand. But the government would pay for only two as the third one was “a free gift”, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha revealed at his weekly press briefing yesterday.

The announcement by the PM ends a wait of over two decades for the Navy.

Thailand had four submarines in 1937, the first country in Asean to have submarines and only the second in Asia.

Made in Japan, they became damaged over time and were beyond repair. Following the defeat of Japan in World War II, the submarines were discharged in 1951.

Since then, Thailand has never had any submarines. The Thai Navy revived its quest for some submarines to be deployed in the Thai waters, especially in the Gulf of Thailand, in 1995. 

Several western countries – Germany, Sweden, France – and Russia were eager to offer new submarines at good prices, but the Navy’s dream was hampered by budget shortage and political problems.

In 2010, the Navy made another try, eyeing six submarines from Germany, though they were second hand. The Navy then readjusted the plan, eyeing one brand new submarine from either Germany or South Korea, but even that bid was suspended.

It was only when the current military government took power in 2014 that the Navy felt itself closer to realising its dream.

The three submarines are Yuan Class S26 T, which have been developed exclusively for Thailand based on China’s Yuan Class Type 039 A. 

They would be nearly 78 metres long and 9 metres wide, equipped with the latest technology AIP (Air Independent Propulsion) system, that would allow them to dive consecutively up to 21 days without surfacing. Normal nuclear-based submarines can dive around seven to 10 days.

The deal would cost Thailand Bt3.6 billion.

Sensing the criticism of the Navy’s obsession with acquiring submarines, Prayut urged the public to understand why the country needed the subs, and that too from China.

“The submarines from China are the cheapest with the quality relatively acceptable. It has also offered services after purchase, something extra that we have received. I asked my Deputy Prime Minister Prawit [Wongsuwan], and he is ready for any examination of their worthiness.

“We are not rich, and we don’t have much money to spend [on them]. We cannot build them on our own so we have to buy them from others,” said Prayut.


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LIMA: KAI pitches T-50 for future Malaysia trainer, attack role

22 MARCH, 2017 SOURCE: FLIGHTGLOBAL.COM BY: GREG WALDRON LANGKAWI

Korea Aerospace Industies (KAI) is promoting its T-50 advanced jet trainer, light attack aircraft to Kuala Lumpur.

KAI had a large stand at this year’s show at the Langkawi Internationa Maritime & Aerospace Exhibition. Its appearancec was also in support of the South Korean air force’s Black Eagles display team, which performed daily in the show’s flying display.

The Black Eagles display with eight T-50B aircraft. It started using the type in 2009, having previously used the Cessna A-37 Dragonfly.

There is a no formal requirement for new trainer aircraft in Malaysia, so KAI sees its presence at the show as mainly introductory in nature.

The type fills two roles, both as an advanced jet trainer and a light attack aircraft. It is understood that all T-50 aircraft subsequently produced will be the FA-50 variant, which has a light attack capability with precision weapons, and a cannon.

KAI has enjoyed strong success with the type in Southeast Asia, selling the aircraft to the Philippines, Thailand, and Indonesia.

Kuala Lumpur has insufficient assets for training pilots, with just seven MB-339CM trainers – the eight aircraft crashed in May 2016, with both the pilot and co-pilot ejecting safely.

A decision on new trainers is likely to be years away. It is unlikely made until Kuala Lumpur selects a new fighter under the auspices of the Multi-role Combat Aircraft (MRCA) deal. The MRCA decision has been delayed for years, with no clarity on timelines.

The T-50 also forms the basis Lockheed Martin’s bid in the US T-X competition to replace the Northrop T-38.


https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...trainer-435452/


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T-14 Armata - Russian Main Battle Tank [Review]



The T-14 Armata is a new Russian main battle tank based on the Armata Universal Combat Platform. It is the first series-produced next generation tank. The Russian Army plans to acquire 2,300 T-14s in the period 2015-2020.

Type: Main battle tank
Place of origin: Russia
Used by: Russian Ground Forces
Designer: Ural Design Bureau of Transport Machine-Building, Uralvagonzavod
Manufacturer: Uralvagonzavod
Unit cost: T-14: $3.7 million
Produced: 2015-present
Number built: 100+

Specifications
Weight: More than 50 t, 49 t (with Urban Warfare Package)
Length: 10.8 m (35 ft)
Width: 3.5 m (11 ft)
Height: 3.3 m (10 ft)
Crew: 3

Armor:
44S-sv-Sh
1,000–1,100 mm vs APFSDS and 1,200–1,400 mm vs HEAT

Main armament:
125 mm (4.92 in) smoothbore 2A82-1M tank cannon with 45 rounds (32 of them in the autoloader)

Secondary armament:
12.7 mm (0.50 in) Kord machine gun (6P49), 7.62 mm (0.30 in) PKTM machine gun (6P7К)

Engine:
diesel
1,500 hp–2,000 hp

Power/weight: 31hp/t
Transmission: 12-speed automatic gearbox
Operational range: min 500 kilometres (310 mi)
Speed: 80 km/h (50 mph)-90 km/h (56 mph) (estimated)

A main battle tank (MBT), also known as a battle tank or universal tank:

Today, main battle tanks are considered a key component of modern armies. Modern MBTs seldom operate alone, as they are organized into armoured units which involve the support of infantry, who may accompany the MBTs in infantry fighting vehicles. They are also often supported by surveillance or ground-attack aircraft.
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a country so far away from everywhere on earth, NZ don't even need military protection, those who dare to even venture far to New Zeland will eventually succumb to logistic and supply issue 10 days into battle  devil.gif
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RTA ordered ZBL-09 from NORICO to be commissioned in the cavalry unit.

Foreign correspondent said to TAF in LIMA 2017 yesterday that the Royal Thai Army signed the order to buy 34 ZBL-09 8×8 and 12,506 30 mm round from China’s NORICO.

ZBL-09 can be compared to BTR-3E1 earlier procured and deployed in the infantry units. RTA will buy one battalion of ZBL-09 and aim for 2020 delivery at the price of 1.695 mil USD each. TAF believe that this order is a part of the 400 million Baht project to upgrade the RTA maintenance factory to be able to maintain and refurbish all Chinese-made vehicle in RTA, including VT-4 tank, Type-85 and ZBL-09. Thy aim to become the regional center for Chinese vehicle maintenance.

22/03/2560 07.45 น. ThaiArmedForce.com – กองทัพบกไทยจัดหา ZBL-09 จากจีนจำนวน 34 คัน พร้อมกระสุน 12,506 นัด โดยจะเข้าประจำการใน หน่วยทหารม้า

ผู้สื่อข่าวต่างประเทศกล่าวกับ TAF ในงาน LIMA 2017 วานนี้ว่า กองทัพบกไทยได้ลงนามจัดซื้อยานเกราะล้อยาน 8×8 แบบ ZBL-09 จาก NORICO ประเทศจีนแล้ว

ZBL-09 มีสมรรถนะใกล้เคียงกับ BTR-3E1 ที่กองทัพบกไทยเคยจัดหาและประจำการอยู่ในหน่วยทหารราบ โดยกองทัพบกไทยจัดหาจำนวน 1 กองพัน คาดว่าจะได้รับรถในปี 2562 โดยกำหนดราคากลางของรถที่ราคาคันละ 1.695 ล้านเหรียญสหรัฐ (59,325,000 บาท) และกระสุนขนาด 30×165 มม. ที่ราคานัดละ 155 เหรียญสหรัฐ (5,425 บาท) ซึ่งเป็นการยืนยันว่ารถจะมาพร้อมกับป้อมปืนขนาด 30 มม. TAF เชื่อว่าการจัดหาในครั้งนี้เป็นส่วนหนึ่งของสัญญาการจัดตั้งโรงงานซ่อมสร้างยุทธยานยนต์จีนมูลค่า 400 ล้านบาทที่กระทรวงกลาโหมจะลงทุนที่โรงงานซ่อมสร้างยุทโธปกรณ์สายสรรพาวุธของกองทัพบก เพื่อเพิ่มศักยภาพให้สามารถซ่อมบำรุงรถถัง VT-4 และยานเกราะ Type-85 รวมถึง ZBL-09 ดังกล่าว โดยคาดหวังว่าโรงงานจะเป็นศูนย์กลางในการซ่อมบำรุงยุทธยานยนต์ของจีนในภูมิภาคได้

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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 24 2017, 10:46 PM)
check out their list of active military aircraft, ZERO fighter/attack/recon aircraft

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_activ...litary_aircraft

this is a blardee good strategy, keep the spending on where it is needed.
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thats actually a pretty standard thing even today
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 25 2017, 12:24 AM)
I believe most of the fully upgraded US Humvees in Iraq have electric turrets
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cuz they have to if not it would be near impossible to bring it around with hand crank alone
their turret nowadays is more heavier and protected than even some apc open turret
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cuz they have to if not it would be near impossible to bring it around with hand crank alone
their turret nowadays is more heavier and protected than even some apc open turret
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Certainly more than our poor Igla operator laugh.gif

Btw since when we have 40mm AGL blink.gif

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 25 2017, 01:23 AM)
Certainly more than our poor Igla operator laugh.gif
Btw since when we have 40mm AGL blink.gif
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the 40mm agl is not that rare i think..
seen it numerous times when it got deployed to sabah

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dem paras.. they like to go around with little to no protection  laugh.gif

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the 40mm agl is not that rare i think..
seen it numerous times when it got deployed to sabah
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Tak ingin tenaga tentara habis, TNI bikin mekatronik mortir 81mm
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Tak ingin tenaga tentara habis, TNI bikin mekatronik mortir 81mm

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Merdeka.com - Dalam peperangan, jumlah personel tentara harus dimaksimalkan. Termasuk untuk urusan penggunaan senjata. Selama ini, dibutuhkan setidaknya 15 personel TNI untuk mengoperasikan meriam. Dinas Penelitian dan Pengembangan Angkatan Darat (Dislitbangad) tengah menyiapkan Mekatronik mortir 81mm yang lebih canggih.


Dalam pengoperasian alat ini menggunakan software dan hanya membutuhkan tiga orang. Kepala seksi uji senjata amunisi laboratorium Dislitbangad Mayor Inf Suratmoko menuturkan, mekatronik mortir 81mm tidak menghabiskan tenaga personel tentara. Suratmoko menargetkan tahun depan Mekatronik mortir 81mm akan mendapatkan sertifikasi.

"Mudah-mudahan tahun depan akan kita sempurnakan dan sertifikasi. Kemudian meriam kita masih butuh 15 orang jadi prajurit kita habis. Kami ingin meningkatkan hal-hal yang seperti ini nah inilah fungsinya penelitian," jelas Suratmoko di Laboratorium litbang di Pusdik Kopassus Batujajar, Bandung Kamis, (23/3).

Mekatronik ini bisa mencapai 85 derajat dari yang sebelumnya hanya 14 derajat saat masih menggunakan sistem manual. Suratmoko beralasan keterbatasan tenaga dalam pengembangan menjadikan mekatronik ini baru dikembangkan tahun depan.

Kekurangan pada alat saat ini adalah masih membutuhkan kursi untuk menaruh mortir ke ujung laras. Nantinya jika sudah disertifikasi pada 2018, alat ini sudah ada di dalam kendaraan, sehingga pengoperasiannya tinggal menggunakan GPS dan langsung ditembakkan ke sasaran.

"Kesulitan saat penembakan butuh kursi untuk menaruh mortir ke ujung Laras. Jadi untuk penembakan tetap satu-satu. 2018 sudah disertifikasi dan di kendaraan, jadi kita nggak lagi ngangkat mortir. Kita tinggal mengarah dengan GPS lalu tembak," jelasnya.


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Mig-29 upgrade programme is in the card biggrin.gif

I actually hope this will go through even when rmaf is getting 18 new aircraft. we're lacking airframe and we cannot rely on hawks to defend entire sabah/sarawak. Hope both hawk and mig-29 are stationed in labuan on permanent basis while the f-18/su30/rafale (kek) can rotate

oso, many sabah/sarawak pipu have served with smokey bandits. our first female fighter pilot (a sabahan ) served with the migs as well as our current air force chief (sarawakian)
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 25 2017, 10:58 AM)
Mig-29 upgrade programme is in the card biggrin.gif

I actually hope this will go through even when rmaf is getting 18 new aircraft. we're lacking airframe and we cannot rely on hawks to defend entire sabah/sarawak. Hope both hawk and mig-29 are stationed in labuan on permanent basis while the f-18/su30/rafale (kek) can rotate

oso, many sabah/sarawak pipu have served with smokey bandits. our first female fighter pilot (a sabahan ) served with the migs as well as our current air force chief (sarawakian)
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were you watching the tn50 event?
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donch think any aircraft carrier can make it to New Zeland without making pitstops ... even the biggest and the baddest aircraft carrier need to be supported every 2 weeks for food and other stuffs.

so New Zeland is safe, no need to waste marnee
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 25 2017, 10:58 AM)
Mig-29 upgrade programme is in the card biggrin.gif

I actually hope this will go through even when rmaf is getting 18 new aircraft. we're lacking airframe and we cannot rely on hawks to defend entire sabah/sarawak. Hope both hawk and mig-29 are stationed in labuan on permanent basis while the f-18/su30/rafale (kek) can rotate

oso, many sabah/sarawak pipu have served with smokey bandits. our first female fighter pilot (a sabahan ) served with the migs as well as our current air force chief (sarawakian)
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next ,we gonna have 5 types of combat aircraft...sukhoi,f18,hawk,mig,rafale ?.... a truly rojak...

how efficient is that with the number of each type of aircraft is very low... we are going to have 5 different types of logistic footprint (maintenance,support,groundcrew and pilot training, etc)

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 25 2017, 12:29 PM)
next ,we gonna have 5 types of combat aircraft...sukhoi,f18,hawk,mig,rafale ?.... a truly rojak...

how efficient is that with the number of each type of aircraft is very low... we are going to have 5 different types of logistic footprint (maintenance,support,groundcrew and pilot training, etc)
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in the RMAF future plan
Hawk is not a front line fighter
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in the RMAF future plan
Hawk is not a front line fighter
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Technical the hawk 208 was suppose to be front line figbter back then. But with new multirole aircraft its use is obsolete. Any aircraft is good to be use in Sabah and Sarawak. Even in the Lahad Datu incident the F/A18 joint in the operation. What Sarawak/Sabah airspace lag is a fast multirole fighter to do interception. The TUDM learnt the hardway with MiG29 doing interception duties. To me they should sell the mig. Get Typhoon. 18 plane of tranche 3 and get tranche 2 from Saudi if they want to sell them upgrade to tranche 3. Place one squadron in East malaysia and one in West malaysia. Get another squadron of MKM and place in East. Get second hand FA18 from kuwait or get 16 fA18E/F split them into 2, so you good a good balance. Next trainer scrap the mb339 and hawk and get m346. For turbo prop trainer pc7mk 2 is ok.
Why this mix? Easy one scantion/embargo. Two, at any point of time if and aircraft is grounded another can fly. 3. Each aircraft got it pro and con so. Use the best for a mission. For save fuel from flying from east to west and vic versa.

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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 01:33 PM)
Technical the hawk 208 was suppose to be front line figbter back then. But with new multirole aircraft its use is obsolete. Any aircraft is good to be use in Sabah and Sarawak. Even in the Lahad Datu incident the F/A18 joint in the operation. What Sarawak/Sabah airspace lag is a fast multirole fighter to do interception. The TUDM learnt the hardway with MiG29 doing interception duties. To me they should sell the mig. Get Typhoon. 18 plane of tranche 3 and get tranche 2 from Saudi if they want to sell them upgrade to tranche 3. Place one squadron in East malaysia and one in West malaysia. Get another squadron of MKM and place in East. Get second hand FA18 from kuwait or get 16 fA18E/F split them into 2, so you good a good balance. Next trainer scrap the mb339 and hawk and get m346. For turbo prop trainer pc7mk 2 is ok.
Why this mix? Easy one scantion/embargo. Two, at any point of time if and aircraft is grounded another can fly. 3. Each aircraft got it pro and con so. Use the best for a mission. For save fuel from flying from east to west and vic versa.
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IIRC the last plan for RMAF is only 2 front role fighter
but in these original plan does not include the Hawk and the MB339 and even the Hornet at one Point
only MKM + (What ever replaces the MIG). laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 01:33 PM)
Technical the hawk 208 was suppose to be front line figbter back then. But with new multirole aircraft its use is obsolete. Any aircraft is good to be use in Sabah and Sarawak. Even in the Lahad Datu incident the F/A18 joint in the operation. What Sarawak/Sabah airspace lag is a fast multirole fighter to do interception. The TUDM learnt the hardway with MiG29 doing interception duties. To me they should sell the mig. Get Typhoon. 18 plane of tranche 3 and get tranche 2 from Saudi if they want to sell them upgrade to tranche 3. Place one squadron in East malaysia and one in West malaysia. Get another squadron of MKM and place in East. Get second hand FA18 from kuwait or get 16 fA18E/F split them into 2, so you good a good balance. Next trainer scrap the mb339 and hawk and get m346. For turbo prop trainer pc7mk 2 is ok.
Why this mix? Easy one scantion/embargo. Two, at any point of time if and aircraft is grounded another can fly. 3. Each aircraft got it pro and con so. Use the best for a mission. For save fuel from flying from east to west and vic versa.
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Actually this is the minimum number TUDM suppose to have.
The good for Malaysia is that the regional countries, may it be Singapore, Indonesia and Thailand are very close friend to Malaysia. The problem with Malaysia now is Philippines.

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All Over The Place

Marhalim Abas March 25, 2017 Malaysian Defence

LANGKAWI: The budget crunch is forcing the RMAF to relook its plans and there is a possibility it may have to extend the life of its Mig-29 Fulcrum fleet.

RMAF chief Jen Affendi Buang told reporters yesterday that every possibility were being looked at as the Fulcrum replacement program was not moving for the time being.

Upgrading the Fulcrum was a possibility, he said without giving any timelines when a decision will be made.

Speaking earlier, Defence Minister DS Hishammuddin Hussein refused to say outright that either the Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale have been down selected for the MRCA program.

He also said no contract signing for the MRCA was expected during the official state visit of French President Francois Hollande visit next week.

Pressed further, Hishammuddin asked back which is better Typhoon or Rafale or schools?

I replied F35, please.

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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 01:33 PM)
Technical the hawk 208 was suppose to be front line figbter back then. But with new multirole aircraft its use is obsolete. Any aircraft is good to be use in Sabah and Sarawak. Even in the Lahad Datu incident the F/A18 joint in the operation. What Sarawak/Sabah airspace lag is a fast multirole fighter to do interception. The TUDM learnt the hardway with MiG29 doing interception duties. To me they should sell the mig. Get Typhoon. 18 plane of tranche 3 and get tranche 2 from Saudi if they want to sell them upgrade to tranche 3. Place one squadron in East malaysia and one in West malaysia. Get another squadron of MKM and place in East. Get second hand FA18 from kuwait or get 16 fA18E/F split them into 2, so you good a good balance. Next trainer scrap the mb339 and hawk and get m346. For turbo prop trainer pc7mk 2 is ok.
Why this mix? Easy one scantion/embargo. Two, at any point of time if and aircraft is grounded another can fly. 3. Each aircraft got it pro and con so. Use the best for a mission. For save fuel from flying from east to west and vic versa.
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1 sq of t3 typhoo
1 sq of t2 typhoon
1 sq of new mkm
1 sq of hornet/superhornet..

it just a wet dream.

the reality is,we dont have the money.... 18 units of new twin-engine fighters will probably cost at least usd3b(thats around RM13b-14b). that just the acquitision cost... the maintenance and operating cost will be higher.
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 25 2017, 02:29 PM)
next ,we gonna have 5 types of combat aircraft...sukhoi,f18,hawk,mig,rafale ?.... a truly rojak...

how efficient is that with the number of each type of aircraft is very low... we are going to have 5 different types of logistic footprint (maintenance,support,groundcrew and pilot training, etc)
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add prc plane... lagi rojak rclxms.gif
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The Indonesian Army Aviation Corps (Penerbad) 11th Squadron is set to receive the first 3 units AH-64E Apache Guardian in November 2017.

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Delapan Apache Siap Perkuat Skadron 11 Penerbad

Komisi I DPR RI Kunjungan Kerja ke Penerbad

25 Maret 2017 7:12 WIB

SEMARANG, suaramerdeka.com - Delapan Heli Apache akan segera diterima Skadron 11 Penerbad Semarang. Pengiriman pesawat canggih buatan Amerika tersebut akan dilakukan dua tahap, dengan tahap pertama sebanyak tiga unit akan diterima November, sedang lima unit sisanya pada tahun 2018. Hal tersebut diungkapkan Wadanpuspenerbad Brigjen TNI Eko Susetyo usai menerima kunjungan kerja Komisi I DPR RI di Skadron 11/ Serbu, Penerbad Semarang, Jumat (24/3).

“Heli Apache akan kita terima sebanyak delapan unit yang akan dikirim bertahap. Ini menjadi alutsista penerbad dengan teknologi tercanggih dan terbaru. Untuk itu kita telah melakukan persiapan, baik untuk kemampuan pilot menerbangkannya maupun dalam perawatannya. Sejumlah personil pilot sudah kami kirim untuk mengikuti training di Amerika. Apache ini akan menjadi kekuatan baru yang menunjang tugas Penerbad yang bisa digunakan dalam tugas heli serang, patrol perbatasan atau dilibatkan dalam  pengamanan laut maupun ilegal fishing,”jelasnya.


Read more: http://berita.suaramerdeka.com/delapan-apa...on-11-penerbad/

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1 sq of t3 typhoo
1 sq of t2 typhoon
1 sq of new mkm
1 sq of hornet/superhornet..

it just a wet dream.

the reality is,we dont have the money....  18 units of new twin-engine fighters will probably cost at least usd3b(thats around RM13b-14b). that just the acquitision cost... the maintenance and operating cost will be higher.
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True about cost. But typhoon and Superhornet fuel consumption is still lower that a F15 and worst with F15 strike eagle. I am not sure about the MKM. But russian maintenance doctrine suck big time. To what I know russian pilot have low fly time compare to Western pilot. This is to save the flight hours of there aircraft. Thats why western plane can last longer. Dia orang punya mentality rosak buang dan beli baru.
Defence of the country is expensive but the peace it being is priceless. That why Singapore has a strong deterrent policy. For Singapore flying F15 is expensive but it is covered by cheaper F16. Even the US National guard are thinking of retiring the F15 and fly f16 only.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 02:10 PM)
True about cost. But typhoon and Superhornet fuel consumption is still lower that a F15 and worst with F15 strike eagle. I am not sure about the MKM. But russian maintenance doctrine suck big time. To what I know russian pilot have low fly time compare to Western pilot. This is to save the flight hours of there aircraft. Thats why western plane can last longer. Dia orang punya mentality rosak buang dan beli baru.
Defence of the country is expensive but the peace it being is priceless. That why Singapore has a strong deterrent policy. For Singapore flying F15 is expensive but it is covered by cheaper F16. Even the US National guard are thinking of retiring the F15 and fly f16 only.
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Mkm is doing fine.
Having russian jet biggest worries is about getting those spare parts but it seem likes malaysia is doing well solving these issues.
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If malaysia want we can get a very very good deal from russian.
We can get a sqn of mkm + upgrade of the existing mkm + a very good weapons package for usd2bil easily.
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Mkm is doing fine.
Having russian jet biggest worries is about getting those spare parts but it seem likes malaysia is doing well solving these issues.
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Tudm need another squadron of MKM to cut down the cost. Indonesia has just sent 2 of its SU to russia via antonov cargo plane and one each. Cannot imagine the cost, the the transport + the overhual cost. The more plane you have, better rotable planning TUDm will have and a heavy overhaul can be done locally which reduce the tranportation cost. Overhead will be lower in long run and airframe hours can be save.
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Is it possible for malaysia JV with Russia and maybe also India to set up service center or spare parts factory in malaysia?
Perhaps this will solve the maintenance problem.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 02:32 PM)
Tudm need another squadron of MKM to cut down the cost. Indonesia has just sent 2 of its SU to russia via antonov cargo plane and one each. Cannot imagine the cost, the the transport + the overhual cost. The more plane you have, better rotable planning TUDm will have and a heavy overhaul can be done locally which reduce the tranportation cost. Overhead will be lower in long run and airframe hours can be save.
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Mkm maintenance is all done locally.
The maintenance will be lot easier with the maintenance center complete last years.
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QUOTE(James831 @ Mar 25 2017, 02:40 PM)
Is it possible for malaysia JV with Russia and maybe also India to set up service center or spare parts factory in malaysia?
Perhaps this will solve the maintenance  problem.
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Yes they can. But why setup a company that will lost money. Imagine that your are running a service centre can you survive if you only repair one product and the product servicing follow planned time. You need to pay high salary for workers who will not do anyrhing at some time. And the amount of spares you need to keep. That the reason all TLDM will be going to BNS or may be Destini. Its to keep malaysian working.
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It seem like we will begin our major maintenance su-30mkm for ~rm400mil.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 02:52 PM)
Yes they can. But why setup a company that will lost money. Imagine that your are running a service centre can you survive if you only repair one product and the product servicing follow planned time. You need to pay high salary for workers who will not do anyrhing at some time. And the amount of spares you need to keep. That the reason all TLDM will be going to BNS or may be Destini. Its to keep malaysian working.
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We have a sizeable market in South east asià vietnam and indonesia is operating su30 and su27.
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Defence of the country is expensive but the peace it being is priceless.
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i agree with this statement,but your suggestion for 4 squadron of new fighter is impossibles. thats around 60 to 70 fighters..we simply cannot afford that. biggrin.gif

with limited budget,we just need to be creative.for eg:

- instead of twin engine,we can opt for single engine.( i know tudm prefers twin engine).acquisition and running cost is cheaper
- instead of two-seater jet, we can opt for single seater.we can reduce the number of pilot/wso.
- instead of new jet, why not opted for 2nd hand jet
- instead of fighter jet, why not acquire medium to long range sam such as hq-9 or s300.....a2/ad strategy...running cost probably lower than a squadron of fighter jet..

Personally, i would prefer we acquire mpa and aew&c first,before new fighter...but, if Mig's replacement is a must, just go with Kuwaitis' hornet.No need to create a new footprint for logistic.We can train the crew and pilot our self...


/just my 2 cents opinion
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 25 2017, 02:54 PM)
It seem like we will begin our major maintenance su-30mkm for ~rm400mil.
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Don't get me wrong Singapore way is always a tripartite way. Where the Armed force will say what they want may it be the airforce, navy and the Army. The government will let DSO and DSTA research on the best with feedback form the armed force and together with ST work out the best solution. It in ST website, you can check it. With this ST will get project going and this Singapore got work, not just singaporean as some are malaysian worker too. If cannot be done locally get from oversea like the new LMVs. Malaysia on the other hand will let the market decide even with TOT. But done get your government wrong, even with TOT is expensive but there will be many malaysian with work. Thats why you Navy Chief is smart with the 15 to 5 class . it a win win situatuation politically and financially in the long run.
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Don't get me wrong Singapore way is always a tripartite way. Where the Armed force will say what they want may it be the airforce, navy and the Army. The government will let DSO and DSTA research on the best with feedback form the armed force and together with ST work out the best solution. It in ST website, you can check it. With this ST will get project going and this Singapore got work, not just singaporean as some are malaysian worker too. If cannot be done locally get from oversea like the new LMVs. Malaysia on the  other hand will let the market decide even with TOT. But done get your government wrong, even with TOT is expensive but there will be many malaysian with work. Thats why you Navy Chief is smart with the 15 to 5 class . it a win win situatuation politically and financially in the long run.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 02:52 PM)
Yes they can. But why setup a company that will lost money. Imagine that your are running a service centre can you survive if you only repair one product and the product servicing follow planned time. You need to pay high salary for workers who will not do anyrhing at some time. And the amount of spares you need to keep. That the reason all TLDM will be going to BNS or may be Destini. Its to keep malaysian working.
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they also service the civilian sector as they know they would go kaput if they oni service the military sector
boustead got another shipyard in penang for the civilian sector and destini is buildings OnG sector vessels well b4 they got mmea contract
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 25 2017, 02:59 PM)
i agree with this statement,but your suggestion for 4 squadron of new fighter is impossibles. thats around 60 to 70 fighters..we simply cannot afford that.  biggrin.gif

with limited budget,we just need to be creative.for eg:

- instead of twin engine,we can opt for single engine.( i know tudm prefers twin engine).acquisition and running cost is cheaper
- instead of two-seater jet, we can opt for single seater.we can reduce the number of pilot/wso.
- instead of new jet, why not opted for 2nd hand jet
- instead of fighter jet, why not acquire medium to long range sam such as hq-9  or s300.....a2/ad strategy...running cost probably lower than a squadron of fighter jet..

Personally, i would prefer we acquire mpa and aew&c first,before new fighter...but, if Mig's replacement is a must, just go with Kuwaitis' hornet.No need to create a new footprint for logistic.We can train the crew and pilot our self...
/just my 2 cents opinion
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You forget we need to cover sabah and sarawak as well.
Medium to long range SAM is expensive and you need lots of them to cover malaysia.
Jet is much cheaper option and flexible strategic as you can use it to attack and defence.
Tudm have preferences over two engine jets as they have better combat radius as to single engine jets.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 03:08 PM)
Don't get me wrong Singapore way is always a tripartite way. Where the Armed force will say what they want may it be the airforce, navy and the Army. The government will let DSO and DSTA research on the best with feedback form the armed force and together with ST work out the best solution. It in ST website, you can check it. With this ST will get project going and this Singapore got work, not just singaporean as some are malaysian worker too. If cannot be done locally get from oversea like the new LMVs. Malaysia on the  other hand will let the market decide even with TOT. But done get your government wrong, even with TOT is expensive but there will be many malaysian with work. Thats why you Navy Chief is smart with the 15 to 5 class . it a win win situatuation politically and financially in the long run.
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speaking ToT and offset,

Saab's partner for Mig replacement program is Deftech, which is a sister company of CTRM ( company that makes aerospace composite component)...
both deftech and ctrm are wholly owned by drb-hicom...

so dont count out Gripen yet... they got a big cable. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 25 2017, 03:19 PM)
You forget we need to cover sabah and sarawak as well.
Medium to long range SAM is expensive and you need lots of them to cover malaysia.
Jet is much cheaper option and flexible strategic as you can use it to attack and defence.
Tudm have preferences over two engine jets as they have better combat radius as to single engine jets.
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Yes true fighter are flexible and using SAM there going to be radar gap.
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 25 2017, 03:15 PM)
they also service the civilian sector as they know they would go kaput if they oni service the military sector
boustead got another shipyard in penang for the civilian sector and destini is buildings OnG sector vessels well b4 they got mmea contract
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The problem come not with the civilian side of boustead but the. Naval shipyard in Lumut as they need project to keep running.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 05:08 PM)
Don't get me wrong Singapore way is always a tripartite way. Where the Armed force will say what they want may it be the airforce, navy and the Army. The government will let DSO and DSTA research on the best with feedback form the armed force and together with ST work out the best solution. It in ST website, you can check it. With this ST will get project going and this Singapore got work, not just singaporean as some are malaysian worker too. If cannot be done locally get from oversea like the new LMVs. Malaysia on the  other hand will let the market decide even with TOT. But done get your government wrong, even with TOT is expensive but there will be many malaysian with work. Thats why you Navy Chief is smart with the 15 to 5 class . it a win win situatuation politically and financially in the long run.
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not everyone can afford a DSO or DSTA... they have thousands of brainy nerds and geeks with phds there... and funding them doesnt all come from mindef.. that's why singkie's military industrial complex is so strong...
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Philippine troops rescue ship captain kidnapped by militants

MANILA: Philippine soldiers on Saturday rescued one of two Filipino cargo ship crewmen taken captive just two days ago by suspected Abu Sayyaf militants, a security official said.

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The troops recovered Aurelio Agacac, the ship captain, in the remote village of Basakan in the southern Philippine province of Basilan, said Colonel Juvymax Uy, commander of the military’s 104th Brigade and Joint Task Force Basilan.

The kidnappers took Agacac and his companion Laurencio Tiro captive from a cargo ship off Basilan on Thursday, only hours after soldiers rescued two Malaysians held for about eight months on a southern island.

Uy said the abductors were forced to abandon Agacac to delay the pursuing troops and evade a firefight.

"The victim looked alright," he told reporters.

Uy said the soldiers had also captured a wounded suspect during the pursuit who died while being transported to the hospital in Basilan.

Uy did not confirm that the kidnappers were Abu Sayyaf members.

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Abu Sayyaf, a small but violent Islamist group known for kidnappings, beheadings, bombings and extortion, is still holding a number of Filipino and foreign nationals captive, including some Indonesians and Malaysians.

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has threatened to impose martial law in the south, home to the majority of Filipino Muslims, to address the security problem there.

(Reporting by Enrico dela Cruz; Editing by Christian Schmollinger)

- Reuters
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The problem come not with the civilian side of boustead but the. Naval shipyard in Lumut as they need project to keep running.
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actually their shipyard in lumut also can service civilian customer if there is a demand
they can also service civilian ships its not like tldm have a monopoly on their service

a superyacht being serviced at lumut shipyard
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 25 2017, 03:54 PM)
actually their shipyard in lumut also can service civilian customer if there is a demand
they can also service civilian ships its not like tldm have a monopoly on their service

a superyacht being serviced at lumut shipyard
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 25 2017, 03:19 PM)
You forget we need to cover sabah and sarawak as well.
Medium to long range SAM is expensive and you need lots of them to cover malaysia.
Jet is much cheaper option and flexible strategic as you can use it to attack and defence.
Tudm have preferences over two engine jets as they have better combat radius as to single engine jets.
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is mig29 have a better combat radius than f16 or gripen(without external tank)?
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 25 2017, 04:26 PM)
is mig29 have a better combat radius than f16 or gripen(without external tank)?
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Yes. Mig 29 have better combat radius.
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is mig29 have a better combat radius than f16 or gripen(without external tank)?
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Radius of Msian Mig29 = 500 to 1300 km?
Radius of Msian F16 and Gripen = 0
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 12:11 PM)
True. Their only consent is any naval force briching Australia defence. Thats the reason they collaborate with australia and work together on the Anzac frigate.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 01:33 PM)
Technical the hawk 208 was suppose to be front line figbter back then. But with new multirole aircraft its use is obsolete. Any aircraft is good to be use in Sabah and Sarawak. Even in the Lahad Datu incident the F/A18 joint in the operation. What Sarawak/Sabah airspace lag is a fast multirole fighter to do interception. The TUDM learnt the hardway with MiG29 doing interception duties. To me they should sell the mig. Get Typhoon. 18 plane of tranche 3 and get tranche 2 from Saudi if they want to sell them upgrade to tranche 3. Place one squadron in East malaysia and one in West malaysia. Get another squadron of MKM and place in East. Get second hand FA18 from kuwait or get 16 fA18E/F split them into 2, so you good a good balance. Next trainer scrap the mb339 and hawk and get m346. For turbo prop trainer pc7mk 2 is ok.
Why this mix? Easy one scantion/embargo. Two, at any point of time if and aircraft is grounded another can fly. 3. Each aircraft got it pro and con so. Use the best for a mission. For save fuel from flying from east to west and vic versa.
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>Replace entire LIFT/2nd line fleet
Why not another T80U armour regiment and some KDX Aegis destroyers while you're at it rolleyes.gif

Hawk 208 with AAMs have been suggested to help cover UK QRA requirement, but its true that RAF opted to bring back 2 squadron of Typhoon T1 instead - best choice really. For us, Hawk 208 is currently quite useful for potential Pinoy-hunting, whether its Suluks or MILFs.

QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 25 2017, 02:19 PM)
Mkm is doing fine.
Having russian jet biggest worries is about getting those spare parts but it seem likes malaysia is doing well solving these issues.
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French to upgrade Rafale's to F4 standard. Payloads with a decent platform?


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During the March 20 meeting of the Ministerial Investment Committee, Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian decided to authorize the launch of initial development of the new F4 standard for the Rafale combat aircraft.

This standard, integrating experience and feedback from combat operations, should contribute to strengthen the Rafale's capabilities to operate alone or as part of a coalition. New developments will include improvements to network working methods, sensor developments and their integration.

The F4 standard will also take into account the expected evolutions of missiles, of the power plant and the integration of new capabilities. The first aircraft fully equipped to this new standard should be commissioned by 2025, but certain functionalities will be available as early as 2023.

This new standard is part of the continuing evolution of the aircraft which will progressively constitute the entire French manned combat aircraft fleet.

The launch of a future tranche of Rafale aircraft will be decided by the next LPM multi-year program law to meet the requirements of the Air Force.
Interesting.

New engines, new networking methods, new sensors and the evolution of power plants.

Are we seeing a variation of the US Navy's "payloads over platforms" meme? Could we say that the French have adopted "payloads with a decent platform"? If so, then I say brilliant. We're seeing the same with Super Hornet and I think that is the most practical and cost effective approach.

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JMSDF, Thai aircraft carriers participating in Singapore’s inaugural fleet review
The Republic of Singapore Navy will be mark its 50th birthday with an inaugural International Maritime Review on May 15.



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Russia stilll agree to give us parts and servicing?
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Russia stilll agree to give us parts and servicing?
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Are we invited to your fleet review BTW?
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Are we invited to your fleet review BTW?
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This year, the Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN) commemorates her Golden Jubilee. The RSN’s development has mirrored that of Singapore as our island nation transformed from Third World to First. At 50, the RSN stands strong, ready and committed.
"Now we have a fully capable and integrated Naval Force…It shows how far the RSN has grown, and we are now capable of protecting our sea lines of communication, which are vital for Singapore, because we are a Maritime Nation." - President of Singapore Dr Tony Tan Keng Yam during a visit to Changi Naval Base in 2016.
As part of the anniversary celebrations, the RSN will host Singapore's inaugural International Maritime Review (IMR) on 15 May 2017. The IMR is an opportunity for the RSN to welcome our friends from around the world to join us in our 50th anniversary celebrations. Working with like-minded navies from the region and beyond to tackle common trans-boundary maritime security threats, the RSN has strengthened mutual trust and understanding to interoperate effectively with other navies and maritime agencies. The RSN, together with our international partners, continues to ensure a safe and secure maritime environment for all.

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Russia stilll agree to give us parts and servicing?
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if not we wont be signing a service deal with them for our MKM maintenance

part from india have some quality issues or so i was told. Then we opt to stock pile parts sourced direct from russia and build service center for the MKM. Partly also to improve the MKM readiness

Lesson learn from MiG29 exp


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Yes, we have also secure majority of the spare parts.
Iirc we also get some of the parts from china as well.
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if not we wont be signing a service deal with them for our MKM maintenance

part from india have some quality issues or so i was told. Then we opt to stock pile parts sourced direct from russia and build service center for the MKM. Partly also to improve the MKM readiness

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SATMO Indonesian Army AH-64E Technical Assistance Field Team
       
The Mission and Installation Contracting Command - Fort Bragg (MICC-FB) in support of the United States Army Security Assistance Training Management Organization (USA-SATMO) has a requirement to provide the Indonesian Army, Tentara Nasional Indonesia (TNI), with an AH-64E Technical Assistance Field Team (TAFT) in Indonesia.

MICC-FB is seeking information from interested contractors that are capable of providing an AH-64E TAFT to assist TNI in building a mission-ready AH-64E Attack Helicopter Company with appropriate instructor pilot, maintenance support and an organic training capability that will allow TNI to sustain the force.


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LEKIU CLASS (FFGHM)
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Indian AWACS! laugh.gif
Adding yindian rojak to the rojak fleet... bolehkah hmm.gif laugh.gif

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Indian AWACS! laugh.gif
Adding yindian rojak to the rojak fleet... bolehkah hmm.gif laugh.gif

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...30-aewc-434146/
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Germany Bans Rheinmetall From Exporting Products To Turkey

Germany is denying clearance to Rheinmetall for few defense trades with Turkey amid a row over campaign appearances by Turkish officials in pursuading support for a referendum that could boost President Tayyip Erdogan's powers.

"The German government is currently denying clearance for some export contracts", Rheinmetall Chief Executive Armin Papperger told reporters on Thursday after the release of its full-year results.

He said Rheinmetall remained in talks with Turkey over a contract to supply a defense system for its Leopard battle tanks, after the country lost 10 such vehicles in its war against the Islamic State.

Rheinmetall and peer Krauss Maffei jointly build the Leopard tanks. "Europeans would not be able to walk safely on the streets if they kept up their current attitude towards Turkey," Erdogan said on Wednesday.

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Legendary Airborne and Amphibious Assault Op Just Happened In Syria

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A combat operation that legends are made of just occurred under the cover of darkness on March 21-22 as US Special Operations troops and elite Kurdish special forces parachuted deep into deep into ISIS-held ground while other US-backed SDF troops made an amphibious assault that succeeded in retaking the Tabqa Dam from the Islamic State who were caught by surprise.

Some of the following information is unconfirmed but comes from our trusted sources and will give a more in depth look at what happened beyond the “official” CJTF-OIR statement.

The airborne troops jumped from at least a half dozen rotary-wing aircraft into at least two different drop zones onto a peninsula west of Raqqa near Abu Asi. There are even rumors of a high altitude jump taking place. The Syrian democratic Forces (SDF) have proven to be the top indigenous fighting force in the region, without a doubt. Yet, a very very small population within the ranks of the SDF is airborne qualified, and there were indeed Kurdish troops on the jump. This means that the Kurdish Counter Terror Group (CTG) from northern Iraq was definitely there leading the way. It’s also possible, and even likely, that the CTG’s Syrian counterpart, the Syrian Kurdish Anti-Terror Forces Command (HAT) were also in on the Airborne operation, considering the high echelon of their training. The key strategic ground now held on the Western flank cuts off the main ISIS supply route flowing from Aleppo to Raqqa.

Meanwhile, a massive amphibious mission was underway. The SDF’s Kurdish YPG and Syrian Arab Coalition fighters led by Marine Special Operations Command (MARSOC) boarded Zodiac watercraft and whatever boats they could find, and made a more direct assault onto the dam itself, east of the airborne drop zone. The dam was being used as an ISIS headquarters, a prison for high value individuals, and a training camp. They were successful in taking the dam.

As the footholds across the Euphrates were confirmed, bridge boats were loaded with combat vehicles, supply trucks, and command and control vehicles, and they made their way for the beach heads to reinforce the initial shock troops who were carrying very little water, ammo, and supplies in order to stay highly mobile.

According to our reports, the fighting was intense, but somewhat brief, as Islamic State forces were caught of guard, most likely overconfident after the coalition’s recent failed attempt to take the dam. ISIS had also most likely pushed a good portion of their force to fortify the east of Raqqa after a recent night of successful raids by these same elite SDF troops and US commandos. Some ISIS fighters were killed, while most panicked and retreated into the actual town of Tabqa. Reports on twitter say that IS is now pushing troops to reinforce and entrench Tabqa for a fight.

While airborne and amphibious assaults were happening, ISIS was taking an absolute beating from the skies. AH-64 Apache helicopters rocked enemy fighting positions and scattering fighters. The newly arrived Marine artillery unit pounded IS targets all night. Fighter jets continuously stayed on station scorching through the sky in order to keep enemy heads down while the ground forces could set up shop.

US-SDF forces now have Raqqa blocked on three sides and hold some critical high ground. The coalition forces are wasting no time and have now initiated airstrikes and clearing operations to purge the tactically useless, but necessary, town of Tabqa and will also be conquering the strategic Tabqa airfield to the south.

Another important aspect of retaking this ground, the airfield, and getting Raqqa completely surrounded has just as much to do with our competitors as it does with the Islamic State. Russian and Syrian regime forces have been steadily making their way toward Raqqa from Homs and Palmyra to the south. They’re too late. This latest successful operation has all but blocked Syrian and Russian forces from meddling in the Raqqa operation and the rest that will follow in the region.

ISIS is on their last leg in Raqqa, and while they will undoubtedly fight wildly like a cornered, desperate animal, using seemingly unlimited SVBIEDs, booby trapping every house and street, and fighting from hidden tunnels below the city… they are dead men walking. It’s over, but they just don’t know it yet.
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Ukranian Missile Depot Sabotaged Causing Missiles To Fly Out Like Fireworks


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An ammunition base in Ukraine has allegedly been sabotaged and the blaze has resulted in the evacuation of more than 20,000 people who live nearby.

The fire broke out in the base situated in Balakliya, near Kharkiv, which is around 100 kilometres from the front line of the ongoing war between Ukrainian government forces and Russia-backed separatists.

Due to the current political situation, Chief military prosecutor Anatoliy Matios is convinced the fire cannot be a coincidence and is the “result of sabotage.”

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The munitions depot fire fell on the same day as the killing of Russian lawmaker Denis Voronenkov, who moved to Ukraine last year, prompting Ukrainian officials to declare the blaze “no accident” and an “act of state terrorism” by Russia.

All residents within a 10km (6 miles) radius of the fire have been evacuated in an attempt to keep the population safe.

Thankfully, there has been no reported civilian casualties reported.



The base, which spans more than 350 hectares, stores 138,000 tons of ammunition, including missiles and is a key supply for Ukrainian forces at war with the separatists.

Take a look at footage of the blaze below:

Authorities are investigating the possibility of an explosive device being dropped from a drone, which was the method believed to have been used when someone tried to set the base on fire in December 2015.

The conflict between Ukrainian forces and pro-Russian rebels has claimed more than 9,700 lives since 2014.

http://www.unilad.co.uk/video/ukranian-mis...like-fireworks/
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hmm.. interesting development  hmm.gif

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Kuwait Air Force - 28 F/A-18Cs and 7 F/A-18Ds in service as of November 200
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwait_Air_Force

i guess they want to sell off their old stuff since they are getting newer super hornet and typhoon
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hmm.. interesting development  hmm.gif

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No surprise if India want it, they have the know how to carry put a full overhaul

I was also told our mig29 is relative low hour compared to india whose use it more intensively

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 26 2017, 07:43 PM)
Kuwait Air Force - 28 F/A-18Cs and 7 F/A-18Ds in service as of November 200
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwait_Air_Force

i guess they want to sell off their old stuff since they are getting newer super hornet and typhoon
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another million dollar question.. will they also transfer their missiles and ammunition to us if the deal goes through
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another million dollar question.. will they also transfer their missiles and ammunition to us if the deal goes through
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they wont...it can be used for the new SH
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another million dollar question.. will they also transfer their missiles and ammunition to us if the deal goes through
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why would we want their ammo too? rclxub.gif

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beat us buying a new one to resupply
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beat us buying a new one to resupply
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The missile got shelf life. Not worth the maintenance. Can buy from Us new one
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Indonesia is Considering the Possibility of a Licensed Production of Components for BMP-3F

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LANGKAWI / Malaysia / TASS / - Indonesia is considering the possibility to establish a licensed production of shells and components for infantry fighting vehicles BMP-3F, Mikhail Petukhov, deputy director-general of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC), told reporters at the LIMA arms exhibition.

"At present, the Indonesian side is studying Russian proposals for the organization of licensed production of ammunition and individual components for previously delivered BMP-3F," Petukhov said.

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According to him, Russia is ready to cooperate with potential foreign customers in the field of licensed production of equipment. "We are ready for this format of cooperation, but its appropriateness, parameters and prospects should be considered in each specific case," he said.

BMP-3F is a version of a combat vehicle for the Marine Corps, it can also be used by the Coast Guard and border guards. The machine is used to conduct combat in the coastal zone, on the coast, during the landing of the sea assault. Its arms include guns of 100 and 30 millimeters caliber, anti-tank guided missiles, a 7.62 millimeter machine gun. Crew BMP-3F consists of three people, the car can carry up to seven people landing.

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The first BMP-3F was delivered to Indonesia in 2010, then the Asian country received 17 vehicles. Later, the Indonesian military received 37 more infantry fighting vehicles.

Exhibition LIMA 2017 takes place on the island of Langkawi from 21 to 25 March. More than 550 companies from 36 countries participate in it, over 300 official representatives from more than 60 countries are invited to the events.

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marhalim so fast update this new story laugh.gif
http://www.malaysiandefence.com/kuwaiti-hornets/
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marhalim so fast update this new story  laugh.gif
http://www.malaysiandefence.com/kuwaiti-hornets/
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Very interesting. So we will get the answer after Kuwait get their. SH.
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Israeli Air Force to host 7 nations in its largest-ever air drill
By: Barbara Opall-Rome, March 21, 2017 (Photo Credit: Matty Stern/US Embassy Tel Aviv)
TEL AVIV, Israel — The Israeli Air Force will host flying forces from seven nations later this year in the largest and most complex air exercise in its history.

Nearly 100 aircraft and several hundreds of air warriors and support crews from the United States, Greece, Poland, France, Germany, India and Italy will converge here in the autumn for Blue Flag, a biennial, two-week drill aimed at honing the type of planning, targeting and coordinated command and control demanded by coalitions operating in high-threat theaters.

“It will be a massive exercise; the biggest ever for the IAF. Seven nations plus Israel,” said Lt. Col. Richard Hecht, the Israeli Air Force's chief of international affairs.

Of the seven confirmed participants, four have never before actively participated in Blue Flag, which began in 2013 and continued in 2015 as a four-way exercise involving Israel, the U.S., Greece and Poland. This year, however, four new nations are participating, along with officers and attaches from nearly 40 countries who are expected to attend as observers.

“Everybody wants to engage and cooperate with the IAF. It’s a privilege,” said Hecht, who spent four years on the Israel Defense Forces’ J5 planning staff, primarily coordinating bilateral issues between the U.S. and Israel.

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marhalim so fast update this new story  laugh.gif
http://www.malaysiandefence.com/kuwaiti-hornets/
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they have low flying time aren't they, the Kuwait's Hornets...?

buy them, spend a few millions upgrade a bit like upgrade old radar to APG-79 AESA radar...avionics...

seems like a fine deal to me...

and that news of sell offer for Saudi's Blackhawks to us...intriguing..but highly doubt gov got the money to get them..

btw the US M109 SPH offer dead already right?
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 26 2017, 11:06 PM)
btw the US M109 SPH offer dead already right?
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not dead
delayed

the usa still reserve the m109 for atm
unless the top level says otherwise
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Ooooo some commonality in our fleet at last!

Jilat Kuwaitis tho... ah well our politikus very good at it rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 26 2017, 11:06 PM)
btw the US M109 SPH offer dead already right?
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no marny
And yes what marny we got, should spend on ships and jets
Kuwait deal not always got rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 26 2017, 11:13 PM)
Ooooo some commonality in our fleet at last!

Jilat Kuwaitis tho... ah well our politikus very good at it rolleyes.gif
no marny
And yes what marny we got, should spend on ships and jets
Kuwait deal not always got rclxms.gif
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Most probably all the buying will b after malaysia election. BTW when is it, and H20 and KJ dialog on your new wawasan 2050.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 27 2017, 12:06 AM)
they have low flying time aren't they, the Kuwait's Hornets...?

buy them, spend a few millions upgrade a bit like upgrade old radar to APG-79 AESA radar...avionics...

seems like a fine deal to me...

and that news of sell offer for Saudi's Blackhawks to us...intriguing..but highly doubt gov got the money to get them..

btw the US M109 SPH offer dead already right?
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even our hornet dun have aesa radar die die wanna put aesa radar on other pipu hornet
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 26 2017, 11:31 PM)
even our hornet dun have aesa radar die die wanna put aesa radar on other pipu hornet
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Legacy hornet no easa but the easa was installed on the Superbug
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 27 2017, 12:37 AM)
Legacy hornet no easa but the easa was installed on the Superbug
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 26 2017, 11:37 PM)
Legacy hornet no easa but the easa was installed on the Superbug
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There are suggestions to install apg-83 radar into legacy hornet.
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 26 2017, 11:12 PM)
not dead
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the usa still reserve the m109 for atm
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iinm, Our government not yet given the green light for the procurement.
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There are suggestions to install apg-83 radar into legacy hornet.
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The way I see it TUDM want a new fighter with confirm Aesa installed.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 27 2017, 01:06 AM)
and that news of sell offer for Saudi's Blackhawks to us...intriguing..but highly doubt gov got the money to get them..
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no mang.. jilat saud a bit harder maybe can get for free... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 27 2017, 01:13 AM)
Ooooo some commonality in our fleet at last!

Jilat Kuwaitis tho... ah well our politikus very good at it rolleyes.gif
no marny
And yes what marny we got, should spend on ships and jets
Kuwait deal not always got rclxms.gif
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jilat all... get all the freebies... best...
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also scale down version - APG-79(V)X



Test Flight Confirms Suitability of Latest Raytheon AESA for Hornet Upgrades
A successful flight test of the Raytheon-built APG-79(V)X AESA radar system has demonstrated the functions needed to extend the combat relevance of F/A-18C/D Hornet aircraft for 15 to 20 years. Hornet fleets upgrading to the new APG-79V(X) radar will receive Super Hornet-like capabilities, including:

extended detection ranges
simultaneous air-to-air and air-to-ground capabilities
production of high-resolution synthetic aperture radar (SAR) mapping
industry leading reliability

“We put our latest AESA radar to the test, and it exceeded our expectations,” said Mike “Ponch” Garcia, business development director of Tactical Airborne Systems for Raytheon’s Space and Airborne Systems business, and a former F/A-18E/F Super Hornet pilot/instructor. “Our APG-79(V)X combines the best features of our AESA portfolio to maintain tactical advantage for F/A-18C/D aircraft.”

Since fielding the world’s first operational AESA radar for airborne platforms in 2000, Raytheon has delivered more than 500 tactical AESA radars for F-15, F/A-18E/F, EA-18G and B-2 aircraft. The APG-79 system, a U.S. Navy program of record, flies globally on F/A-18E/F Super Hornets and EA-18G Growlers, and has seen service in four combat theaters since its first delivery in 2006.

“Our experience with AESA radar systems ensures a low-risk transition to the APG-79V(X). Installations require less than 60 minutes,” said Roy Azevedo, vice president for Raytheon’s Space and Airborne Systems business. “In these uncertain economic times, when defense budgets are particularly tight, Raytheon’s APG-79V(X) radar offers a proven, cost-effective solution for Hornet life extension, as well as significant opportunities for in-country manufacturing partnerships.”

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they have low flying time aren't they, the Kuwait's Hornets...?

buy them, spend a few millions upgrade a bit like upgrade old radar to APG-79 AESA radar...avionics...

seems like a fine deal to me...

and that news of sell offer for Saudi's Blackhawks to us...intriguing..but highly doubt gov got the money to get them..

btw the US M109 SPH offer dead already right?
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well according to WIKI ....
Kuwait's Hornets is F18C single seat version ... seems our RMAF want 2 seater ...
Kuwait have 7 unit F-18D 2 seater trainer jet.

for me look both also seems not suitable to RAMF... any way good to get other 8-10 F-18C/D to setup full squadron in Penang AB, or get more unit to setup F18 in sabah too.

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 27 2017, 10:24 AM)
well according to WIKI ....
Kuwait's Hornets is F18C single seat version ... seems our RMAF want 2 seater ...
Kuwait have 7 unit F-18D 2 seater trainer jet. 

for me look both also seems not suitable to RAMF...  any good to get other 8-10 F-18C/D to setup full squadron in Penang AB, or get more unit to setup F18 in sabah too.
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in this age of highly modernized avionics and greater situational awareness has been achieved, do we even need two-seater anymore i wonder....

for ground bombings, i could understand the advantage of two-seater.... 1 can pilot, keeping eyes on the sky.. the other focus on bombing ground targets, SAM suppression and such..

but current avionics should have even the odds for single-seater
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 27 2017, 10:24 AM)
well according to WIKI ....
Kuwait's Hornets is F18C single seat version ... seems our RMAF want 2 seater ...
Kuwait have 7 unit F-18D 2 seater trainer jet. 

for me look both also seems not suitable to RAMF...  any good to get other 8-10 F-18C/D to setup full squadron in Penang AB, or get more unit to setup F18 in sabah too.
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the single seat c version can just take over the migs role
though the c version actually have the same capability like the d version
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 27 2017, 10:35 AM)
in this age of highly modernized avionics and greater situational awareness has been achieved, do we even need two-seater anymore i wonder....
for ground bombings, i could understand the advantage of two-seater.... 1 can pilot, keeping eyes on the sky.. the other focus on bombing ground targets, SAM suppression and such..
but current avionics should have even the odds for single-seater
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military expert said 2 pair eye still better than 1 pair eye in sea flying. better observation too。

QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 27 2017, 10:38 AM)
the single seat c version can just take over the migs role
though the c version actually have the same capability like the d version
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Five Dead After Ukrainian Military Copter Crash

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Ukraine's Defense Ministry said a military helicopter has crashed in the eastern Donbas region, killing 5 people aboard.

The ministry said the crash happened March 26 near Kramatorsk, the headquarters of the military operation against Russia-backed separatists in the eastern part of the country.

Two crew members and three passengers died when the Mi-2 copter crashed after apparently flying into some power lines, the ministry said.


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now says gripen and s.hornet still in the mrca selection
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He is a politician who heads Mindef so more pull in more investment to country. For TUDM requirement now is twin engine gen 4.5 fighter. The WSO system start with USN F14 where WSO monitors the long range intercept radar armed with those phoenix missile. So its not just in attack configured plane.
TUDM found that this ease the burden of a lone pilot and also with fighters plane with multi role capability, the practise continue. Mig29 of Tudm was in superiority fighter role therefore they bought the single seats.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 27 2017, 12:51 PM)
He is a politician who heads Mindef so more pull in more investment to country. For TUDM requirement now is twin engine gen 4.5 fighter. The WSO system start with USN F14 where WSO monitors the long range intercept radar armed with those phoenix missile. So its not just in attack configured plane.
TUDM found that this ease the burden of a lone pilot and also with fighters plane with multi role capability, the practise continue. Mig29 of Tudm was in superiority fighter role therefore they bought the single seats.
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Why tudm insist on twin jet? Our neighbours all have a mix of twin and single jet

High end twin jet like f15/sukhoi and mid range single engine f16/gripen



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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 27 2017, 02:15 PM)
Why tudm insist on twin jet? Our neighbours all have a mix of twin and single jet

High end twin jet like f15/sukhoi and mid range single engine f16/gripen
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different country got different point of view, doctrine & justification on selecting either single or twin engine

there's no right or wrong in choosing between these two, only benefits over limitation

so farx tudm opted for twin engine..in the eyes of tudm, twin engine are better than single, at least on malaysia territory as we devided into east & west

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Nice didn't know that.
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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 27 2017, 02:15 PM)
Why tudm insist on twin jet? Our neighbours all have a mix of twin and single jet

High end twin jet like f15/sukhoi and mid range single engine f16/gripen
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Our High-Low mix is supposed to be Sukhoi/Mig/Hornet and Hawk sweat.gif

Twin jet safeguards against loss of the whole jet and pilot in case of single engine malfunction when flying over the sea, and since TUDM in almost any mission is going to be flying over some sea, its a good idea...
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RTA Ordered ZBL-09 (UPDATE)

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22/03/2560 07.45 น. ThaiArmedForce.com - RTA ordered ZBL-09 from NORICO to be commissioned in the cavalry unit.

Foreign correspondent said to TAF in LIMA 2017 yesterday that the Royal Thai Army signed the order to buy 34 ZBL-09 8x8 and 12,506 30 mm round from China's NORICO.

ZBL-09 can be compared to BTR-3E1 earlier procured and deployed in the infantry units. RTA will buy one battalion of ZBL-09 and aim for 2020 delivery at the price of 1.695 mil USD each. TAF believe that this order is a part of the 400 million Baht project to upgrade the RTA maintenance factory to be able to maintain and refurbish all Chinese-made vehicle in RTA, including VT-4 tank, Type-85 and ZBL-09. Thy aim to become the regional center for Chinese vehicle maintenance.


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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 27 2017, 02:15 PM)
Why tudm insist on twin jet? Our neighbours all have a mix of twin and single jet

High end twin jet like f15/sukhoi and mid range single engine f16/gripen
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TLDM preference due to crossing SCC, better flight radius and can still fly if one engine is down. USN also have the same principle but the F35 is kind of force to take. That why now they are lobbing on the Superbug against the F35.
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QUOTE(lordy @ Mar 27 2017, 02:10 PM)
no matter how good the hardware it is, if the fellas who monitor the radar continue to sleep on the job, nothing will come by.

hint : the missing jetliner  devil.gif
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For radar you need two. One primary and one secondary. Satu on satu off. For all military radar operator procedure on reporting is the most critical so breakdown of comm is somtime high. But for that missing jet thingy is the civilian site fault. So it the aircraft comm was handed over to another ATC. Its that ATC problem as any diversion of route is from that ATC.

Info any military radar operator in this world will follow a strict rule on civilian flight. Can see, can observe can tell reporting officer but not my problem to tell civillian world. Act only if threat is to the country. Cannot kepo on other country civilian flight.
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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Mar 27 2017, 02:25 PM)
i hope they can return to black after their old ceo kicked out recently. juicy stories about BNS Lumut i got from a very important insider. hahaha
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They should by now. They need to fully utillize the shipyard not just for naval but also civillian ship. Malaysian government policy is to have local yard working on naval project so people got work. Not wrong there was a plan to buy lekiu class batch 2 and have it build in East malaysian shipyard. But project was cancel as it deem the ship to expansive.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 27 2017, 04:14 PM)
They should by now. They need to fully utillize the shipyard not just for naval but also civillian ship. Malaysian government policy is to have local yard working on naval project so people got work. Not wrong there was a plan to buy lekiu class batch 2 and have it build in East malaysian shipyard. But project was cancel as it deem the ship to expansive.
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dont suppose you know that o&g (oil rigs, piping, other engineering work) is bread and butter for boustead
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Damen punya MRSS lawa la pulak
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 27 2017, 04:35 PM)
Damen punya MRSS lawa la pulak
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Damen being Damen bang, manada produk dia yg x cantik. kalau tgk Sea Axe patrol vessels dia pun mau bdarah gak idung ooooo
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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Mar 27 2017, 04:57 PM)
Damen being Damen bang, manada produk dia yg x cantik. kalau tgk Sea Axe patrol vessels dia pun mau bdarah gak idung ooooo
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The best is the Crossover class.
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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Mar 27 2017, 04:57 PM)
Damen being Damen bang, manada produk dia yg x cantik. kalau tgk Sea Axe patrol vessels dia pun mau bdarah gak idung ooooo
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Memang la, but the model they try to push the RMN is not up min length
even the Makassar for RMN will be longer
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 27 2017, 05:07 PM)
The best is the Crossover class.
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Damen can adapt one hull form for many tasks, be it crossover or sea axe. for small boats, i really like sea axe design. can turn it into osv, armored patrol boats, even sea shepherd also use the design for their anti-whaling fleet pursuit vessel.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 27 2017, 05:20 PM)
Memang la, but the model they try to push the RMN is not up min length
even the Makassar for RMN will be longer
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berapa panjang? proposed modified makassar pun dah 150m.

ok, jumpa dah. 163m.

btw,
boleh je mintak yg bigger version. maybe mahal sangat.
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Memang la, but the model they try to push the RMN is not up min length
even the Makassar for RMN will be longer
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boleh panjang lagi tu..huhuhu..nak duit ke tak nak???hahahah
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 27 2017, 05:07 PM)
The best is the Crossover class.
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France, Malaysia To Sign Deals On Defence, Agriculture - Reezal Merican

KUALA LUMPUR, March 27 (Bernama) -- Agreements on defence and agriculture will be signed during French President Francois Hollande's state visit to Malaysia, says Foreign Deputy Minister Datuk Seri Reezal Merican Naina Merican.

He said Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak and Hollande were scheduled to witness the sigining of the deals which included a defence-related agreement and another agreement on the establishment of a platform for 'Sustainable Agriculture Landscapes in South East Asia' tomorrow.

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v8/newsindex.php?id=1341847


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France, Malaysia To Sign Deals On Defence, Agriculture - Reezal Merican
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issit true that mmea is getting Do-228 as its mpa?

really not much upgrade compare to beechcraft
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 27 2017, 07:45 PM)
issit true that mmea is getting Do-228 as its mpa?

really not much upgrade compare to beechcraft
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do228 should be enough for mmea...
btw,beechcraft also should be given to mmea..

TUDM should get a real mpa with ASW capability...
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 27 2017, 07:51 PM)
do228 should be enough for mmea...
btw,beechcraft also should be given to mmea..

TUDM should get a real mpa with ASW capability...
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maybe deswai the gomen is currently negotiating for surplus p3 orions from nippon
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 27 2017, 07:57 PM)
maybe deswai the gomen is currently negotiating for surplus p3 orions from nippon
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I think its just a 'sales pitch' by RUAG...

btw,production licence for do228 is held by Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL)
even for the new generation of do228, the fuselage, wings and tail will be manufactured by HAL
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topkek punya company. better buy indon NC-212/219 mpa la
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The Indonesian Army took delivery of the final batch of 21 units Leopard 2RI MBTs. Credit to IPC Car Terminal.

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 27 2017, 06:53 PM)
nah.. maybe just minor stuff
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ngeh ngeh ngeh, tengok je la besok laugh.gif

btw, on Kuwait F18s'

if with FMS for upgrade then it is advisable to take from them

as the amount of money to upgrade the C/D to match ours C/D is huge
better buy newer from the US, true story
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 27 2017, 08:46 PM)
ngeh ngeh ngeh, tengok je la besok  laugh.gif

btw, on Kuwait F18s'

if with FMS for upgrade then it is advisable to take from them

as the amount of money to upgrade the C/D to match ours C/D is huge
better buy newer from the US, true story
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kuwait had request $420m support deal for hornet and US already approved it. lets see whether kuwait decided to proceed or not...
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WASHINGTON, May 26, 2016 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Kuwait for F/A-18 C/D services and support. The estimated cost is $420 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on May 24, 2016.

The Government of Kuwait has requested a possible sale of the following Non-Major Defense Equipment (MDE): continuation of contractor engineering technical services, contractor maintenance services, Hush House (an enclosed, noise-suppressed aircraft jet engine testing facility) support services, and Liaison Office Support for the Government of Kuwait F/A-18 C/D program. This will include F/A-18 avionics software upgrades, engine component improvements, ground support equipment, engine and aircraft spares and repair parts, publications and technical documentation, Engineering Change Proposals (ECP), U.S. Government and contractor programmatic, financial, and logistics support. Also included are: maintenance and engineering support, F404 engine and engine test cell support, and Liaison Office support for five (5) Kuwait Liaison Offices. There is no MDE associated with this possible sale. The total overall estimated value is $420 million.

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3 more Malaysians rescued from Abu Sayyaf


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KUALA LUMPUR: Philippine troops have rescued three Malaysians held captive by Abu Sayyaf rebels, the military said on Monday (Mar 27), the second such operation in four days as security forces step up offensives against the notorious Islamist group.

The Eastern Sabah Security Command (ESSCom) said the kidnap victims, Fandy Bakran, 27, Mohd Jumadil Rahim, 24, and Mohd Ridzuan Ismail, 33, were rescued in an operation in waters off Sulu last night.

The three men were kidnapped from a ship eight months ago, and their rescue means no other Malaysians are currently held hostage as two others were rescued at sea last week.

The military said the three Malaysians were rescued on Jolo island in the southern Philippines on Sunday.

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The other two - Tayudin Anjut, 46, and Abd Rahim Summas, 63, - were rescued by the Filipino security forces last Thursday.

Tayudin and Abd Rahim arrived at the KL International Airport (KLIA) in Sepang last night and had been reunited with their families.

Prime Minister Najib Razak met them at his residence this morning.

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Abu Sayyaf has its roots in separatism but engages mostly in banditry. It has proven a formidable opponent for the Philippine military, with its small, agile and well-equipped network entrenched in the jungles of two southern islands, from which they prey on slow cargo boats.

It has gained a reputation as one of the world's most brutal groups, delivering on its promises to behead hostages for whom ransom is not paid before a deadline. Among its victims in the past eight months was a German and two Canadians.

Netherlands, Indonesian, Filipino and Japanese citizens are among those still held.

Defence Secretary Delfin Lorenzana recently described Abu Sayyaf's kidnappings as a national embarrassment.

The government is concerned hardliners in the group have been in contact with extremists in the Middle East with a view to setting up Islamic State cells in the restive south of the vast archipelago nation.

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 27 2017, 08:46 PM)
ngeh ngeh ngeh, tengok je la besok  laugh.gif

btw, on Kuwait F18s'

if with FMS for upgrade then it is advisable to take from them

as the amount of money to upgrade the C/D to match ours C/D is huge
better buy newer from the US, true story
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How much is kuwait going to sell their aircraft?
If we can get it dirt cheap I hope our government spend bit more on upgrading all the hornet and perhaps get 2-4 e2d would be the best deal for tudm.
We should be less worries on getting 2nd hand f18 that were not operates on aircraft carrier as f18 airframe capable of 8000-9000 hours.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 28 2017, 08:38 AM)
How much is kuwait going to sell their aircraft?
If we can get it dirt cheap I hope our government spend bit more on upgrading all the hornet and perhaps get 2-4 e2d would be the best deal for tudm.
We should be less worries on getting 2nd hand f18 that were not operates on aircraft carrier as f18 airframe capable of 8000-9000 hours.
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hope to get it free ^^
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Keeping Singapore's coastline secure amid changing threats

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Not only have efforts to enter Singapore illegally by sea have become more organised, the nature of threats has also changed.

SINGAPORE: Ninety-four people were arrested for trying to breach Singapore's coastline in 2015 - a five-year high, and an average of one person every four days.

As efforts to enter Singapore illegally by sea become more organised, with perpetrators using faster boats, decoys and camouflage to evade detection, the Police Coast Guard is likewise stepping up surveillance with new technology, including panoramic electro-optics sensors along Singapore’s borders, as well as tethered unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones, that will be deployed from coastal patrol craft by 2019.

Singapore’s coastline is also guarded by floating sea barriers, land fences and sea fences. It is estimated that by 2030, 75 per cent of Singapore's coastline will be barricaded in one way or another.

The nature of threats to Singapore has also changed.

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“In the past, (we saw threats like) piracy, sea robbery, smuggling,” Comprehensive Maritime Awareness Group commander Senior Lieutenant Colonel (SLTC) Nicholas Lim told Channel NewsAsia.

“We always thought that these were the concerns of other countries. But in the last few years, these threats changed. It’s become more transboundary. For example, we are aware of Islamic State (IS). Now they have followers, sympathisers in different parts of the world and they conduct (activities) on behalf of their leaders,” he said. “Terrorists are planning and plotting so we always have to be on the lookout.”

FOILING THE MARINA BAY ROCKET PLOT

The Police Coast Guard is part of the Singapore Maritime Crisis Centre (SMCC), which also comprises security agencies including the navy, Immigration and Checkpoints Authority, Singapore Customs, as well as the Maritime and Port Authority of Singapore.

Set up in 2011, the SMCC was the nerve centre of the operation that foiled the plot to fire a rocket at Marina Bay from Indonesia's Batam island in August 2016, shortly before Singapore's National Day.

"We had some indication about the plots by the terrorists," SLTC Lim said, explaining how the navy and Police Coast Guard worked together to have different layers of ships patrolling the area.

"In SMCC, we used our systems, including analytics in the social media domain; we were able to pick up linkages between the syndicate of six that were arrested, with another person that was linked to them, and was involved in the maritime domain."

NEED FOR STRONGER COOPERATION INTERNATIONALLY

There is also room for working on an international level in order to deal with threats, SLTC Lim said.

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The Singapore Navy hosts an international working group called the Information Fusion Centre (IFC) in Singapore. The multinational information-sharing hub sees people from different countries and various agencies working together to increase awareness of maritime security events in and around the region.

IFC was part of the global search effort for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 when it went missing in 2014.


The group also helped inform the Indonesian Navy that a vessel - Hai Soon 12 - had gone missing in the Java Sea in May 2016.

“When something happens, we want to make sure that the relevant agencies from the different countries are aware and once they are aware, they will be able to respond to those incidents,” said SLTC Lim.

Acting on the information, the Indonesian Navy sent a warship to locate the vessel and discovered that it had been invaded by pirates, who were subsequently arrested.

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LIMA 2017: Malaysian shipbuilders plough ahead

27th March 2017 - 9:10 by Gordon Arthur in Langkawi

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Progress in shipbuilding, rather than the aerospace industry, was most observable at the LIMA 2017 exhibition in Langkawi, with some naval projects making significant progress.

These include the Second Generation Patrol Vessel - Littoral Combat Ship (SGPV-LCS), new coast guard OPVs and plans for multirole ships.

Boustead Naval Shipyard (BNS) is constructing six 3,100t SGPV-LCS vessels. Abdul Aziz bin Ahmad, head of Boustead Heavy Industries Corporation (BHIC), told Shephard that the first of class will be launched in August and that it would definitely be delivered in time for LIMA 2019.

The hull is in the construction phase and the majority of the ship's equipment is ready to be installed.

The second and third SGPV-LCS vessels are also under construction. The keel for the second vessel's hull was laid on 28 February and is 30% complete.

Aziz said he expected follow-on boats to be completed on a rolling drumbeat every 10 months, with construction speeding up as BNS's experience grows.

The SGPV-LCS for the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) measures 111m long and it is based on DCNS's Gowind 2500 design. A $2 billion contract was signed in 2011. As part of the RMN's '15-to-5' plan, the navy eventually wants to field 12 of this class.

Elsewhere, Malaysia has long professed a desire for multirole ships for the RMN. Such platforms are necessary for moving equipment between Peninsula and East Malaysia, amphibious operations and for providing a versatile capability for disaster relief missions.

Malaysia has lacked a strategic sealift capability gap since the loss of the landing ship tank KD Sri Inderapura owing to a fire in 2009.

The leading contender to build three so-called Multi-Role Support Ships (MRSS) is a tie-up between Malaysian shipyard Boustead and PT PAL of Indonesia. The two signed an MoU on 2 November 2016 at the Indo Defence exhibition.

The MRSS, an evolution of the Indonesian Navy's Makassar class, displaces 12,000t and is 163m in length. Data shown at LIMA listed a cruising speed of 18kt, and accommodation for 140 crew and 500 troops.

It can accommodate four helicopters (two in hangars and two on the flight deck), as well as up to 16 main battle tanks and six other armoured vehicles. Its well deck can host two landing craft, plus two rigid-hulled inflatable boats (RHIB) are mounted on davits.

The MRSS will have a medium-calibre gun (either 57mm or 76mm), two 30mm cannons and four 12.7mm machine guns.

A PT PAL spokesman said it has not yet been decided whether they would be built in Indonesia or Malaysia.

Notably, the Indonesian Navy brought KRI Banjarmasin, its third Makassar-class landing platform dock (LPD) on which the MRSS is based, to LIMA 2017.

A spokesman from PT PAL told Shephard that it will hand over similar ships to the Philippine Navy. The Philippine's second LPD is due in May, if not sooner. The Philippine ships, 2m shorter than Indonesia examples, are based on the same Makassar-class platform. The Philippines holds an option for two more vessels too.

It is unclear when funding for the MRSS will be allocated, as the project depends on the financial health of the government coffers, especially as the SGPV-LCS and four Littoral Mission Ships (LMS) from China have been prioritised.

China, fresh from its surprising success in scooping a contract for the aforementioned LMS, may fancy its chances of supplying an LPD-type vessel instead of Boustead/PT PAL. The China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC) exhibited a scale model of a 20,000t LPD at LIMA 2017, while another Chinese shipbuilder showed a similarly sized landing helicopter dock.


Read more: https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/imps-new...s-plough-ahead/
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North Korea tests another rocket engine

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WASHINGTON: North Korea has carried out another test of a rocket engine that US officials believe could be part of its programme to develop an intercontinental ballistic missile, officials told Reuters on Monday (Mar 27).

The latest test follows one earlier this month, and is another sign of Pyongyang's advancing weapons programme. It comes amid mounting US concerns about additional missile and nuclear tests, potentially in the near future.

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Several US officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the test took place on Friday night and the engine could possibly be used in an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM).

Earlier this month North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said his country had conducted a test of a new high-thrust engine at its Tongchang-ri rocket launch station, saying it was "a new birth" of its rocket industry.

At the time, North Korea's official media said the engine would help it achieve world-class satellite launch capability, indicating the test was of a new type of rocket engine for long-range missiles.

Kim also has said North Korea is close to an ICBM test-launch.

North Korea has been testing rocket engines and heat-shields for an ICBM while developing the technology to guide a missile after re-entry into the atmosphere following a liftoff, experts have said.

Once fully developed, a North Korean ICBM could threaten the continental United States, which is around 9,000 kilometres from the North. ICBMs have a minimum range of about 5,500 kilometres, but some are designed to travel 10,000 kilometres or farther.

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The reclusive state has conducted five nuclear tests and a series of missile launches in defiance of UN resolutions.

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said during a visit to the region that a military response would be "on the table" if Pyongyang took action to threaten South Korea and US forces.

The Trump administration is still deliberating its policy on North Korea, but appears to be giving priority to less risky options than pre-emptive military strikes.

It is considering sweeping sanctions aimed at cutting North Korea off from the global financial system as part of a broad review of measures to counter Pyongyang's nuclear and missile threat.

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 27 2017, 07:45 PM)
issit true that mmea is getting Do-228 as its mpa?

really not much upgrade compare to beechcraft
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i'd rather MMEA getting ShinMaywa US-2 since MMEA is close to Japan biggrin.gif icon_idea.gif icon_rolleyes.gif Amphibious just like CL-405
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 28 2017, 06:38 AM)
How much is kuwait going to sell their aircraft?
If we can get it dirt cheap I hope our government spend bit more on upgrading all the hornet and perhaps get 2-4 e2d would be the best deal for tudm.
We should be less worries on getting 2nd hand f18 that were not operates on aircraft carrier as f18 airframe capable of 8000-9000 hours.
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unclear how much we will pay for the hornets dirt cheap or maybe free but we have to pay for the upgrade

The problem is upgrading the hornet to RMAF standard right now is prices
the cost of upgrading the hornet swallow almost all the FMS funding

in the future maybe, but if in near future we might have to say goodbye to the current MMRCA program
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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Mar 28 2017, 10:56 AM)
i'd rather MMEA getting ShinMaywa US-2 since MMEA is close to Japan  biggrin.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  Amphibious just like CL-405
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Get china AG600 better, bigger tonne ... can carry 12 tonne water great for aerial firefighting for bush-fire in MY and Indonesia, also as transportation plane upto 50 poeple good for peninsular and Sarawak/Sabah logistic, offcouse Sea SAR laugh.gif

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Best case... sudah bincang ngan orang lain
Worst case... takde wang laugh.gif

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...uy-rafale-jets/
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 28 2017, 03:26 PM)
Oooo
Best case... sudah bincang ngan orang lain
Worst case... takde wang laugh.gif

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...uy-rafale-jets/
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any military enthusiast should expected this
since all know current economic situation and election with in 1 year.
any big procurement big should be stop by Gov already。

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unclear how much we will pay for the hornets dirt cheap or maybe free but we have to pay for the upgrade

The problem is upgrading the hornet to RMAF standard right now is prices
the cost of upgrading the hornet swallow almost all the FMS funding

in the future maybe, but if in near future we might have to say goodbye to the current MMRCA program
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Non-upgraded Hornet will have reduced/no commonality with RMAF Hornets, or absolutely tabuli pakai?

If the former, should just bite the bullet, at least got more airframes... if latter, then that IS a problem.
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what is that?
looks liek the gustav?

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 28 2017, 03:34 PM)
any military enthusiast should expected this
since all know current economic situation and election with in 1 year.
any big procurement big should be stop by Gov already。
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Depend on gov... if they want, special funding can be allocated but really depends if PM willing to take the risk especially when election is close.
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boleh panjang lagi tu..huhuhu..nak duit ke tak nak???hahahah
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For MRSS from PT PAL, how much could it cost with TLDM spec. Helipad need to upgrade to maedium heli strength and vehicle ramp strength increase to more than 50 ton capability. With Indo/Philippines marines and navy using light heli and amphibious force don't have tank MBT spec tank. Even indonesia army have separate LST to carry their Leopard2.
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I wonder what equipment will we use for our MRSS? hmm.gif

New helis, LCAC, landing crafts, amphibious armored vehicles? we never had most of these before. New purchases incoming?
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 28 2017, 04:56 PM)
what is that?
looks liek the gustav?
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 28 2017, 05:30 PM)
I wonder what equipment will we use for our MRSS? hmm.gif

New helis, LCAC, landing crafts, amphibious armored vehicles? we never had most of these before. New purchases incoming?
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we dun have plan for marine corps (not anymore) so we dun need lcac or aav. prolly lcu to land lori 3 tan and other light vehicle but that's about it. mrss is mainly for logistical sapork and humanitarian effort anyway

LPD deck is big so any type of helo can land without need of haul down device like rast, so any type of helo can land, even nuri
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Myanmar's child soldiers reunite after 16 years



Myanmar's child soldiers reunite after 16 years

Two former rebels in Myanmar have been reunited in their homeland for the first time since giving up their armed struggle 16 years ago.

The twins were part of the so-called "God's Army" as child soldiers, and grew up to lead a violent struggle against Myanmar's military.

Al Jazeera's Wayne Hay reports from Yangon.
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Awesome aerial display of Sukhoi SU-30MKM and SU-30SM during LIMA 2017


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Su30MKM's main base, Gong Kedak. Why would the base be there??



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Rafale…Non and Orions

Marhalim Abas
March 28, 2017
Malaysia - RMAF

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Kawasaki P-3C Orion

Anyhow, apart from the Saudi/Kuwait aircraft, Malaysia has also been offered surplus P-3C Orions MPAs from Japan. The Defence Ministry is hoping Japan will pay for the refurbishment costs just like what happened with the two ex=Japanese Coast Guard ships donated to the Malaysian Coast Guard.

Japan paid for the RM26 million refurbishment cost of KM Pekan, the media was told at LIMA 17.

No one can tell me the cost of refurbishing the four aircraft offered but RMN chief Admiral Kamarulzaman Badaruddin told me that if accepted that the Orions will be stripped of the submarine hunting equipment and no weapons will be donated as well. The other surveillance gear will be maintained.

Japan has some 81 Orions in service with its navy. These aircraft were licensed built Kawasaki of Japan, which is manufacturing their replacements, the P-1 MPA.


http://www.malaysiandefence.com/rafale-non-orions/

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 28 2017, 05:57 PM)
Su30MKM's main base, Gong Kedak. Why would the base be there??



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Wasted 5 minute and no answer also

Not even informative
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 28 2017, 07:10 PM)
Wasted 5 minute and no answer also

Not even informative
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by watching the video you just basically give the youtuber money for him to continue his bullshіt biggrin.gif
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Our economy situation basically destroyed hopes of rmas getting their new MRCA
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 28 2017, 05:04 PM)
we dun have plan for marine corps (not anymore) so we dun need lcac or aav. prolly lcu to land lori 3 tan and other light vehicle but that's about it. mrss is mainly for logistical sapork and humanitarian effort anyway

LPD deck is big so any type of helo can land without need of haul down device like rast, so any type of helo can land, even nuri
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With ATM capabilities now and asset available.
Rejiment that most probably using for amphibious assault and heli assault would be 10 Para and the Mechanise brigade.
Helicopter should be EC725 or Nuri. Both medium weight helicopter.
For amphibious landing, LCVP and LCM.
LCVP can carry personnel and vehicle up to 5ton load if not wrong. LCM such as LCM1e which Australia and Spain is using can carry 1 MBT.
For normal personnel assault TLM got CB90s and Police marine got Seacat m14 or 18.
For logistic wise the LCVP and LCM is capable it the matter of how many the ship can carry.
For now the PT PAL ships are good for Indo and Philipines forces as they have marine with sea going APC. It not that singapore and Malaysia APC cannot swim but the level of survivallity with certain sea state.

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Time to scrap idea of those high end fighter

Maintain, upgrade the su30mkm and hornets. I think these are already capable


Retire all mig, hawlks and ancient f5 replace with KAI FA-50 / TA-50/gripen

maintain just 3 variant of jet

Su30mkm
F18
TA-50/gripen

Our navy wake up from their wet dream, with sensible 15 to 5 plan

When will air force wake up

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QUOTE(TigerLion @ Mar 28 2017, 06:26 PM)
Why is Gong Kedak chosen to be the base for the Su30MKM?
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Why Gong Kedak, first is not putting all the fighters in one base.
Never ever put your egg in one basket.

http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/malaysia

The advantage for TUDM in puttin plane at northern part of peninsula Malaysia is due to the Indonesian Natuna Airspace which was heavily guarded by Indonesian airforce. There was one complain where TUDM charlie was escort by indonesian fighter plane. So for Gong kedak it nearer and faster for them to reach East Malaysia. For proctection from attack wise not really as the Iraq war has shown that how far your base is it still possible.
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QUOTE(TigerLion @ Mar 28 2017, 07:26 PM)
Why is Gong Kedak chosen to be the base for the Su30MKM?
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why not tho. Gong kedak airbase is there since ww2 and since other major airbase already had its fighter wings (F/A-18 in butterworth, Migs in kuantan, hawk in both butterworth and labuan on rotation basis), naturally gong kedak is chosen so not to overcrowd other airbases and to improve rmaf coverage
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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 28 2017, 06:22 PM)
Our economy situation basically destroyed hopes of rmas getting their new MRCA
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Malaysia should have capability to buy the asset now. The main problem is politics. With people bad mouthing every single buy, like saying someone pocketing money and buying a submarine that cannot swim. It going to be hard and political no-no if the malaysian election is coming. So most probably any announcement will be after election. If TUDM to choose a western MRSS ship, politician will bring in question of why don't buy from this maker or that, its cheaper. They done care of the spec. It happen the the EC725 buy.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 28 2017, 07:29 PM)
With ATM capabilities now and asset available.
Rejiment that most probably using for amphibious assault and heli assault would be 10 Para and the Mechanise brigade.
Helicopter should be EC725 or Nuri. Both medium weight helicopter.
For amphibious landing, LCVP and LCM.
LCVP can carry personnel and vehicle up to 5ton load if not wrong. LCM such as LCM1e which Australia and Spain is using can carry 1 MBT.
For normal personnel assault TLM got CB90s and Police marine got Seacat m14 or 18.
For logistic wise the LCVP and LCM is capable it the matter of how many the ship can carry.
For now the PT PAL ships are good for Indo and Philipines forces as they have marine with sea going APC. It not that singapore and Malaysia APC cannot swim but the level of survivallity with certain sea state.
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point is, since the marine corps plan is put on the backburner, both navy and army didn't have to spend too much for specific equipments other than landing craft

the main use of mrss is for logistic and humanitarian effort after all
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Maybe skip the Typhoon/Rafale MRCA altogether. Get the Kuwaiti Hornets in good numbers

And when the Su30 and FA-18 need to be replaced, then go directly to fifth generation.

By that time, the F-35 will be cheaper and there will be copies/variant (although not as good) like the KAI or TAI or even the…. HAL version (or maybe not!!) Pak fa

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 28 2017, 06:44 PM)
Time to scrap idea of those high end fighter

Maintain, upgrade the su30mkm and hornets. I think these are already capable
Retire all mig, hawlks and ancient f5 replace with KAI FA-50 / TA-50/gripen

maintain just 3 variant of jet

Su30mkm
F18
TA-50/gripen

Our navy wake up from their wet dream, with sensible 15 to 5 plan

When will air force wake up
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Good idea but will not happen.
One is SU30mkm and Mig are russian. So if NATO or US go to UN and ask for embargo on russia and if this happen those plane will be grounded.
Two if and accident happen in one type of plane or helicopter and the plane/helicopter were force to be grounded due technical check. TUDM will have less plane/helis to fly. Thats why TUDM insist on new set of western plane. World politics do play a part ob the choice. Not that FA50 and Grifen are no good but safer to fly across water with 2 engine.
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 28 2017, 08:23 PM)
Good idea but will not happen.
One is SU30mkm and Mig are russian. So if NATO or US go to UN and ask for embargo on russia and if this happen those plane will be grounded.
Two if and accident happen in one type of plane or helicopter and the plane/helicopter were force to be grounded due technical check. TUDM will have less plane/helis to fly. Thats why TUDM insist on new set of western plane. World politics do play a part ob the choice. Not that FA50 and Grifen are no good but safer to fly across water with 2 engine.
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>US go to UN and ask for embargo on russia
>russia is a permanent member in unsc
>embargo

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 28 2017, 07:17 PM)
point is, since the marine corps plan is put on the backburner, both navy and army didn't have to spend too much for specific equipments other than landing craft

the main use of mrss is for logistic and humanitarian effort after all
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Malaysia will not go all the way to have a US marine, Indonesian marine type of force. They will use the MRSS more like the british. So specification more or less with the capability when needed. The main buy apart from the MRSS ship with capabilties of landing medium size helicopter are the LCVP and The LCM for heavy loads. They used to be interested on italian and south koerean ship with its ability to carry cargo and helicopter as this are asset needed or military and HADR duties.

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