French, Indonesian naval firms extend submarine study

By: Pierre Tran, March 31, 2017

PARIS — French naval defense specialist DCNS and Indonesian shipyard PT PAL have extended cooperation on studies for a potential order and local assembly of submarines for the Asian nation, the French president’s office said.

“The memorandum of understanding (MoU) covers the extension of an existing agreement (which expired in December 2016) between PT PAL and DCNS on an industrial cooperation with a view to an Indonesian acquisition of submarines,” the Elysée office said March 29. 

The agreement was among those signed during a visit to Jakarta by the French head of state, François Hollande. DCNS Chairman Hervé Guillou and PT Pal director Firmansyah Arifin signed the memorandum. 

Other agreements included a letter of intention on defense cooperation, signed by the respective defense ministers, and a letter of intent signed by Airbus Defense and Space and local partner PT Pelita to study an order for the A400M airlifter. 

The memorandum for naval studies also covered Indonesia’s interest in acquiring warships, under the Indonesian-French defense dialogue, DCNS said.

“Indonesia wants to reinforce its naval capacity and is discussing with France to explore projects of submarine and surface ships to be built in Indonesia with a high level of local industrial content, through Indonesian-French long-term cooperation,” the company said in a March 30 statement.

The French and Indonesian companies have been studying over the past few years an industrial plan based on a multipurpose, latest-generation version of the Scorpene submarine, capable of shallow and blue water missions, DCNS said.

“Other opportunities on corvettes and frigates are going to be assessed in the near future,” the company said. 

“DCNS is committed to establishing long-term partnerships with the Indonesian industry to enhance Indonesia’s local high-tech industrial content,” Guillou said in a statement.

Indonesia seeks to build up a submarine fleet, having in 2012 placed a $1 billion order for three South Korean attack submarines, with the first built in South Korea with on-site Indonesian engineers; part of the second built in Indonesia; and the third built by the state company PAL in the Indonesian port city of Surabaya.

The Indonesian Navy sought a fleet of at least 10 submarines and later revised the count to 12, according to a Dec. 5, 2015, report from Singapore-based S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies. That planned increased is part of Indonesia's Minimum Essential Force program, which runs to 2024 and seeks to boost naval capabilities.

^lawak april fool la brah

Indonesia takes delivery of AS565 MBe helicopters
Indonesia’s PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI) has delivered two AS565 MBe anti-submarine helicopters to the Indonesian military.
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The two are part of an order for eleven helicopters and they still lack the mission systems to perform their duties.

http://alert5.com/2017/04/01/indonesia-tak...be-helicopters/

Contracted for 11, the Indonesian Navy’s AS565 MBe Panthers helicopters are equipped by PTDI with the anti-submarine warfare (ASW) suite, which includes dipping sonar and torpedo. The first two green basic platforms arrived in Indonesia in mid March this year, for completion by PTDI and delivery to the Indonesian Navy by middle of the year.

Indonesia beefs up air and sea defences

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It launches two patrol boats while aiming to expand aerial reconnaissance and surveillance capabilities

Francis Chan Indonesia Bureau Chief In Jakarta

Indonesia's bid to secure its maritime territories continues with the launch of two new Navy patrol boats in Batam.

The christening of the PC-40M class vessels on Thursday took place a day after the Air Force announced plans to strengthen its aerial reconnaissance and surveillance capabilities by expanding its fleet of spy planes.

Air Force Lieutenant-Colonel Akal Juang told journalists in Makassar, South Sulawesi, on Wednesday that the aerial reinforcements will support naval operations against illegal fishing, smuggling and other border incursions.

According to a report in The Jakarta Post, the Strategic Reconnaissance Squadron has five military aircraft with high-resolution cameras and other equipment for air reconnaissance missions.

But the Air Force confirmed that more of such aircraft will be added to the squadron in time.

Navy Chief Admiral Ade Supandi on Thursday said the two new patrol boats - the KRI Torani 860 and KRI Lepu 861 - will be deployed with the Western Fleet, and patrol the Strait of Malacca, as ordered by President Joko Widodo.

The Strait of Malacca and the Singapore Strait are among the world's busiest sea routes.

With the two new vessels, the Navy now has 19 fast patrol boats, but plans to increase the number to 42 and deploy them from 14 naval bases across Indonesia.

This means naval patrols "will no longer be concentrated in one area as before", added Adm Ade, without specifying the area.

Published: Monday, 27 March 2017 21:47

LIMA 2017: Lacroix offering advanced spectral decoys for RMAF A400M airlifters

As the Royal Malaysian Air Force officially inducted its fourth and final A400M military airlifter at the 14th Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace exhibition (LIMA), the French company Lacroix was promoting innovative spectral decoy systems to bolster the aircraft's auto protection.

     
LIMA Lacroix offering advanced spectral decoys for RMAF A400M airlifter 640 001Airbus A400M military airlifter
(Credit: Airbus/S.Ramadier)
     
Providing new spectral decoys systems for the RMAF A400M airlifters fleet would allows the country's air force to extend its range of missions, said a Lacroix representative.

Hitherto focused on domestic transport missions, the four A400Ms belonging to RMAF would be able to be deployed in several missions, such as tactical transport for peacekeeping missions.

Among others protection systems, Lacroix developed decoys launched through MBDA's SAPHIR-400 expendable dispensing system, specially designed to carry out auto protection for the A400M military transport aircraft.

In order to carry out its protective role for this platform, SAPHIR-400 features a very large decoy capacity and is fully integrated within the A400M Defensive Aids Sub System (DASS). The system comes with a comprehensive Pre-Flight Mission Support Equipment (PFMSE) allowing Library Generation and Verification.

Backed by recent contracts and research performed with the DGA (French defense procurement agency) and various industrial players in the sector, including Airbus Group, Lacroix offers to provide the RMAF with the latest generation of spectral decoys.

Indonesian Navy will Build Scorpène-class Attack Submarines from France

By Arthur Dominic J. Villasanta , | March 31, 2017


A Scorpene-class submarine of the Royal Malaysian Navy.

Indonesia is pushing ahead with its plan to build its own Scorpène-class diesel electric attack submarines in partnership with French defense firm, DCNS.

DCNS and state-owned shipyard PT PAL have extended a partnership agreement that expired in December 2016 for the local assembly of submarines. It said the memorandum of understanding (MoU) covers the extension of the existing agreement between PT PAL and DCNS on industrial cooperation "with a view to an Indonesian acquisition of submarines."

The Indonesian Navy, the largest in Southeast Asia in numbers of ships and men, wants a fleet of 10 to 12 submarines. That planned increase is part of Indonesia's Minimum Essential Force program that also details the defense needs of the Indonesian Navy.

As part of this program, Indonesia in 2012 placed a $1 billion order for three South Korean attack submarines. The first will be built in South Korea with Indonesian engineers taking an active part in the process.

Segments of the second submarine will be built in Indonesia while the third built by PT PAL in the Indonesian port city of Surabaya. These three submarines have been designated the Nagapasa-class by the Indonesian Navy. The Republic of Korean Navy version is designated Improved Chang Bogo-class.

The navy also operates two other submarines belonging to the Cakra-class, a derivative of the Type 209 subs developed by Germany.

The MoU was among those signed during a visit to Jakarta by French President François Hollande. DCNS Chairman Hervé Guillou and PT Pal director Firmansyah Arifin signed the MoU.

The MoU also covered Indonesia's interest in acquiring surface warships for the Indonesian Navy under the Indonesian-French defense dialogue, DCNS said.

DCNS noted Indonesia wants to reinforce its naval capacity and is discussing with France to explore projects of submarine and surface ships to be built in Indonesia with a high level of local industrial content, through Indonesian-French long-term cooperation.

Over the past few years, the partners have been studying an industrial plan based on locally producing a multipurpose, latest-generation version of the Scorpène-class submarine capable of shallow and blue water missions. The local manufacture of corvettes and frigates will be assessed in the near future, said DCNS.

"DCNS is committed to establishing long-term partnerships with the Indonesian industry to enhance Indonesia's local high-tech industrial content," according to Guillou.

All Navy WWII vintage ships retired by 2020, replaced by modern warships

March 28, 2017 PNA Nation 0

By 2020, all World War II vintage ships of the Philippine Navy (PN) will be retired and replaced by newly-built vessels. PN spokesperson Capt. Lued Lincuna in an interview with the Philippine News Agency Tuesday said retirement of these “legacy ships” is required as their officers and crewmembers are needed to man the newly-acquired warships which are expected to be delivered.

Expected to be delivered and commissioned by then are the two missile-armed frigates, the contract of which was won by South Korean shipbuilder Hyundai Heavy Industries, and three missile-armed multi-purpose assault craft.

More crewmen are also needed to man the two strategic sealift vessels whose delivery are expected to be completed this May.

Lincuna said decommissioning of the PN’s World War II era-vessels are needed as operating and maintaining them is getting more costly and expensive.

Aside from this, they are no longer capable of competing with new vessels of similar class.

World War II ships in PN service include the BRP Rajah Humabon, BRP Rizal, BRP Malvar, BRP Quezon and the BRP Laguna among others.

nothing? cuz they are considering for a different type of scorpene (scorpene 1000)

Over the past few years, the partners have been studying an industrial plan based on locally producing a multipurpose, latest-generation version of the Scorpène-class submarine capable of shallow and blue water missions.

specs wise not even the same 
they could have combined the design from the scorpene 1000 industrial plan study into the conventional scorpene and made a new design? 

12 if following their MEF plan and across several submarine classes
not sure why they want use several class of attack sub at once?

cakra class
chang bogo class
scorpene class?
kilo class?

seems to have the x-bow configuration so its more likely a combination of both 1000 and the conventional design 

cakra class is essentially the older version of the chang bogo class so maybe they could keep it to train future chang bogo sailors?

  
DCNS Unveils an Evolution of Its Scorpene 2000 SSK Submarine at UDT 2015
 
At UDT 2015 the Undersea Defence Technology exhibition and conference currently taking place in Rotterdam, DCNS unveiled an evolution of its Scorpene 2000 diesel-electric submarines (SSK).
      
Xavier Mesnet, Submarine Marketing Director, told Navy Recognition during UDT 2015 that this evolution of the Scorpene 2000 design shows how DCNS integrates the latest technologies unveiled at Euronaval last year (such as the second-generation fuel-cell AIP, UUV deployment and recovery, Vipere multifunction buoy...) as well as industrial challenges and customer requirements.

The new Scorpene 2000 evolution model unveiled for the first time at UDT 2015 shows a redesigned sail and stern. According to Marie Nicod, submarine naval architect at DCNS, the only part left unchanged on the model shown at UDT 2015 is the bow. Up to 8 masts may now fit in the new sail because of its larger design. The stern is fitted with an X-rudder for better maneuvrability as well as pre-swirl stators: They reduce the rotational losses incurred by the propeller and further increase the performance of the screw.

DCNS can adapt the Scorpene 2000 series to specific customer requirements including its size and shape. Finally we were told that this evolution of the Scorpene 2000 may deploy the full spectrum of weapons: Torpedoes, Anti-ship missiles, Surface to air Missile, Cruise missiles plus special forces and UUVs.

indon got awac?

RAAF AND US NAVY RECEIVE L3 WESCAM MX-20D EO/IR

L3 was contracted to provide MX-20 electro-optical/infrared (EO/IR) imaging systems to the US Navy for installation on a number of P-8A POSEIDON Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft (MMA). Procured to support both US and Australian operations, the newly equipped P-8As will support worldwide naval missions conducted by the US Navy and the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF).

http://www.monch.com/mpg/news/11-air/569-r...-20d-eo-ir.html

Waiting for the new Singapore MPSS to come out as the replacement for the LST but it a LHD not a the drawing you post. Destroyer? Fat hope buy 6 submanrine, indonesia da bising nak beli destroyer. The corvette replacement most probably upscale version of the LMV with stealth design.

For malaysia some army personnel think bullpup guns design are clumsy and difficult to change mag.

Sorry bro what i meant was when was for singapore buying 6 submarine Indonesia sudah bising, ini pula kalau Singapura beli destroyer type ship.

http://cimsec.org/singapores-fleet-moderni...nd-steady/21897

TNI AL should get the Absalon class or Damen's Crossover class as their new frigate. Will serve indonesia better with indonesia geography.

In a statement announcing the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, DCNS recalls that it has already cooperated with PT PAL in recent years to "identify the best industrial solution for today offering a multi-purpose submarine Of the last generation of the Scorpene class ". It is now a question of going further by studying new possibilities concerning corvettes and frigates, ie the Gowind 2500, the FREMM, and even the intermediate size frigates (FTI).

I have some new informations. It seems all PT-91M's for Malaysia not only were complete new builds, but also the composite armor used in front hull and turret structures was more modern CAWA-2 armor developed in Poland, and not the original one.

Some rumors also suggest some of the PT-91's used by Polish Army, also use CAWA-2 armor.

AH-1F and AH-1F EDA Royal Thai Army (https://www.facebook.com/ball.kittidej)

Another issue that has resurfaced in recent years is the launch of a new attack helicopter by the Royal Thai Army to replace the seven AH-1F in the 3rd Battalion Army Aviation Centers.

Composed of AH-1F, supplied in 1991, 3 machines from the original 4 units (1 unit fall at the north over 10 years ago) and the four units AH-1F EDA repaired in a year 2011.

AH-1F is the same as UH-1H with long life and no spare parts production line. Need to be discharged in the near future.

The Army Aviation Center needs 8 new helicopters to fly, but no information is available what type of attack is this now? Attack helicopters are : France-Germany Tiger, Leonardo A129 Mangusta, Italy/Turkish Aerospace Industries T129 ATAK, Russian Mil Mi-28NM and may include with Chinese Z-10.

However, the need to provide new attack helicopters to replace the AH-1F is still in limited budget. The Army needs to supply helicopters for general use, such as the need for AW-149 and Mi-17V5 for new more, etc.

Poland is Looking for Leopard 2 Tanks

PUBLISHED AT: Friday, 31 March 2017, 10:12


Photo: ppor. Krzysztof Gonera.

Jakub Palowski
kontakt@defence24.pl

Poland is examining potential chances of acquiring additional used Leopard 2 tanks, so that abilities of the armoured forces are maintained and expanded.

As we were informed by Tomasz Szatkowski, Undersecretary of State at the Polish Ministry of Defence, Poland is looking at possibilities of acquiring additional Leopard 2 main battle tanks.  Similarly as in case of the previous batches of Leopard 2A4 (to be upgraded to 2PL) and Leopard 2A5 acquired by Poland, second hand vehicles are also being considered to be a viable option.

Indeed, we are looking at this type of opportunities. We have been asking the Germans about that but they no longer are in possession of used vehicles of this type. The Spanish Leopards are quite old, so doubts exist whether we should reach out for them. This is an ongoing process, and should the acquisition phase be entered, the eye of the beholder will have a close look at the details.

Undersecretary of State at the Polish Ministry of Defence

So far Germany has Poland with information, according to which they no longer have used Leopard 2 tanks at their disposal. On the other hand, the main battle tanks that could be obtained from Spain are indeed quite old. As we know, they cannot be compared e.g. with  the Leopard 2A5 tank from the capability point of view.

Earlier on, the Polish Ministry of Defence had decided to transfer some of the Leopard 2A5 tanks that were acquired back in 2014 from the 34th Armoured Cavalry Brigade based in Żagań to the 1st Armoured Brigade based in Wesola. As Deputy Minister Szatkowski noted, the latter unit has a higher level of readiness. It has also been located closer to the potential area of operations.