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post Apr 18 2017, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 18 2017, 07:49 AM)
Also because it flies so damn slow i heard that sometimes radar systems will ignore it as something significant and dismiss it as background noise.

Made of wood also helps,as it acts as a radar-absorbing material (RAM).
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there have been cases where it flies backwards too.
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post Apr 18 2017, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Apr 18 2017, 01:17 PM)
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demmmm! aku x pernah overslept smpi jatuh laut. lebih2 pun watchkeeper ketuk kabin macam nk roboh pintu
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post Apr 18 2017, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Apr 18 2017, 04:14 PM)
The An-2 is also hard to lock on with IR system, especially low-powered IR seekers in MANPADS missiles.

During the Yugoslav wars, the Croats retrofitted some old agricultural An-2s to drop home-made bombs on the Serbian forces. The Serbs had a hard time countering these planes as they were hard to detect and destroy via radar or IR homing missiles, so they had to use the (very expensive) TV-guided SA-6 SAM missiles to take down these very old planes.
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the legendary An-2!
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post May 23 2017, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 23 2017, 04:15 PM)
went i see the KD perdana RHIB photo,i guest just about 6 meter+-,  so small RHIB to fit 9 personal, it more suitable to fit 6-7 personal, i guest they keep over load the RHIB for long time. so malfunction is expected.
RHIB use for boarding party to check foreign boat/suspect boat, it come with many spec/size. it not use for patrol, it carry by KD Perdana。Navy boat and warship usually carry 1-2 unit RHIB for Boarding /rescue/transportation proposes。 
CB90 also not design to use as Patrol,but we lack of patrol boat so no choice have to use want ever RMN have. use over spec job, every asset have lifespan...
from below photo, same to KD perdana RHIB, it look like RHIB is lack of GPS dome/Radar dome/radio,mostly come with personal radio.  it suitable for Line of sight (from patrol boat) operation。 means no beacon at all.
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liferaft pun better equipped in that sense... at least got radar reflector, handheld gmdss radios, epirb + sart, emergency ration + drinking water. heheh
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post Aug 14 2017, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Aug 13 2017, 05:41 PM)
DHC-4 Caribou Gunship TUDM (Projek Jentayu)
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was it a success?
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post Aug 23 2017, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Aug 23 2017, 03:51 PM)
US Navy 7th Fleet commander to be dismissed from his post after warship collision

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WASHINGTON  (NYTIMES) – One day after ordering a rare suspension of ship operations worldwide, the US Navy plans to relieve the commander of the fleet that has suffered four collisions in Asia and the deaths of more than a dozen sailors this year, a US official said on Tuesday (Aug 22).

Vice Admiral Joseph Aucoin, the head of the 7th Fleet, is expected to be removed on Wednesday, the official said.  Aucoin had been expected to retire in the coming weeks, but his superiors pushed up his departure date after losing confidence in his leadership. The action was first reported by The Wall Street Journal.  Navy officials declined to comment Tuesday night. But Admiral Scott Swift, the commander of the US Pacific Fleet, was flying from Singapore to the 7th Fleet headquarters in Yokosuka, Japan, where he is expected to relieve Aucoin. 

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Aucoin, a highly decorated fighter pilot, has commanded the fleet since September 2015.  The admiral’s removal would come as the Navy is preparing to conduct a rare suspension of ship operations worldwide for a day or two in the next week to review safety and operational procedures.
More broadly, Navy officials are also investigating the role that training, manning and crew communications may have played in the collisions.

Divers have found remains of missing US sailors in the flooded compartments of the Navy destroyer John S. McCain, which collided with an oil tanker Monday off Singapore, Swift said. He declined to say how many bodies had been located in the ship, which is docked at Changi Naval Base in Singapore. He also said that the Malaysian navy, which was part of the search effort, had reported recovering a body at sea that might be one of the 10 missing sailors.

“We have discovered other bodies during the diving on the McCain today,” Swift said at a news conference, held within sight of the damaged ship. “But it is premature to say how many or what the status of the recovery of those bodies is.” The body found by the Malaysian navy was being handed over to the Americans for identification.

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Ships and aircraft from five nations were searching for the sailors near the site of the collision. Swift said the search at sea would continue despite the discovery of remains in the ship. “The focus of the United States Pacific Fleet is our 10 missing sailors and their families,” he said. “We are always hopeful there are survivors.”

On Tuesday afternoon, the White House issued a statement expressing “great sadness” over the deaths of the sailors aboard the McCain. “As the Navy begins the process of recovering our fallen sailors, our thoughts and prayers go out to their families and friends,” the statement said.

The collision was the second in two months involving a destroyer from the Navy’s 7th Fleet, which is based in Yokosuka, Japan.  In June, the destroyer Fitzgerald collided with a cargo ship off Japan. Soon afterward, searchers found the bodies of seven missing sailors in its flooded berthing compartments.

After the collision Monday, Admiral John Richardson, the Navy’s top officer, announced that all 277 Navy ships worldwide would take an “operational pause” to review basic seamanship, teamwork and other “fundamentals.” Defence Secretary Jim Mattis told reporters that an inquiry into the collision had already begun. “We obviously have an investigation underway, and that will determine what happened,” he said.

At his news conference Tuesday, Swift discounted suggestions that the crew of the McCain had been overworked or underprepared. He said the crew responded quickly after the collision, righted the ship and prevented an even bigger disaster.  “I was on the McCain this morning and looking at the eyes of those sailors, and even after their heroic efforts yesterday, I didn’t see exhaustion,” he said. “I didn’t see a crew that was taking a knee, so to speak. They are on their game.”

The admiral said there were no signs of failure in the ship’s steering system or of a cyberattack, two possibilities that had been mentioned in news reports.  But he noted that the investigation was in its earliest stages and said, “We are not taking any consideration off the table.”

The destroyer is named after John S. McCain Sr. and John S. McCain Jr., Navy admirals who were the grandfather and father of Senator John McCain of Arizona.

In Washington, McCain, who is the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, released a statement endorsing the operational pause.  “I agree with Admiral Richardson that more forceful action is urgently needed to identify and correct the causes of the recent ship collisions,” he said. “Our sailors who risk their lives every day, in combat and in training, deserve no less.”

James G. Stavridis, a retired four-star admiral who commanded U.S. forces in Europe and Latin America, said the pause “makes sense, but it comes at a challenging time operationally.”

“The pause gives everyone a chance to stop the day-to-day operations, review training manuals, run drills to respond to crisis, study the specifics of previous collisions, rest and recuperate from the tempo of operations,” Stavridis said.

The Navy declined to confirm names of the missing sailors, but, by Tuesday, some of their relatives had begun to identify them.  Jacob Drake, 21, of North Lewisburg, Ohio, was among the missing, according to a cousin, Brandie Roberts. “We are all having a very difficult time not knowing where he is or what has happened,” Roberts, 27, said in a Facebook message, adding that her family was “refusing” to lose hope. Roberts said he had last spoken with Drake last week.

Family members of Logan Palmer, an interior communications electrician petty officer 3rd class who was from Illinois, said in a statement released by the Navy that they, too, were awaiting “word from the Navy on our son Logan.”

And Darryl Smith, the father of Kenneth Smith, an electronics technician petty officer 3rd class, said in a separate statement provided by the Navy that he was waiting for news about his son. “I appreciate the courageous work of the crew in the aftermath of the collision and the ongoing rescue efforts,” Smith said.

The collision between the McCain and the Alnic MC, a Liberian-registered tanker about three times its size, occurred east of Singapore.
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kelakar gila alasan cyber attack.
kalau mechant ships tu maybe la vulnerable. tu pun too many ifs to be fulfilled to make it happen.
apsal grey hull xmo nk switch on AIS kt situ? dah tau kan tempat tu gila sibuk, awal pagi lak tu. sure penuh atas bridge masa tu sebab nk masuk VTS scheme. kenapa x bole nk share info between themselves?
lain la kapal merchant, paling ramai pun 6 orang je on the bridge, 1x Master, 1 x duty officer, 1 x AB plus 2 extra lookouts (selalunya kadet atau OS)...

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post Aug 25 2017, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Aug 24 2017, 12:39 PM)
Only tanker was detected before collision with US destroyer

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SINGAPORE - Oil tanker Alnic MC was detected by the Singapore maritime authorities before its collision with American destroyer USS John S. McCain in Singapore waters on Monday (Aug 21) morning.

The Maritime and Port Authority of Singapore (MPA) said in response to queries from The Straits Times on Wednesday (Aug 23) that its Vessel Traffic Information System (VTIS) had detected only the presence of Alnic MC.

The monitoring system detects and tracks vessels via radar or the Automatic Identification System (AIS) signals, and enables an alert to be sent to vessels in the event of an impending collision and to get them to change course.
The MPA said the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea requiring mandatory carriage of AIS is, however, not applicable to ships of war and troop ships.

"In this case, MPA's VTIS and radar detected only the presence of the tanker," it said when asked by ST whether it had tracked the two vessels before the collision.

"The incident occurred in Singapore waters in the Traffic Separation Scheme in the Singapore Strait. Investigations are ongoing."

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Naval experts say the VTIS had likely detected the tanker through the latter's AIS. But the[b] AIS in the warship might have been switched off. Still, other vessels in the vicinity should have been able to detect or see the destroyer on their radar systems or by sight.
RSAF personnel boarding a C-130 before a search for missing sailors from the USS John S. McCain on Day Three of the multi-national search-and-rescue efforts on Aug 23, 2017.
Even as a probe is under way, experts have also suggested other possible causes for the collision - including a potential cyber breach that may have disabled the destroyer's computer system. It has also been suggested that the warship could have been hit by a technical failure that jammed its steering. Human error is another possible cause that has been floated.[/B]

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Admiral Scott Swift, commander of the US Pacific Fleet, told reporters in Singapore on Tuesday that nothing is being ruled out in the investigations. This includes possible negligence on the part of the crew, which will be investigated, he said, adding that "every scenario will be reviewed and investigated in detail".

The collision left 10 US sailors missing and five injured. The US Navy said on Tuesday that the bodies of some sailors had been found.

Military experts say it is not uncommon for naval vessels to switch off their AIS systems for security purposes. Dr Sam Bateman, a former commodore of the Royal Australian Navy and adviser to the Maritime Security Programme at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, said: "Warships often don't have their AIS switched on because of security... That is a real problem."

The International Maritime Organisation - a United Nations agency that oversees the safety and security of the global shipping sector - told ST it is compulsory for all merchant ships to switch on their AIS and other detection systems. But the guidelines do not apply to military vessels.

"While not mandatory, we do encourage all vessels - military and commercial - to adhere to the guidelines," a spokesman said, pointing out that cyber attacks against the shipping industry are a growing concern.

- Additional reporting by Zaihan Mohamed Yusof
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cyber attack my arse!
Naaah! It's blardy incompetence in the 1st place.
1. AIS wasn't switched on, confirmed by Singapore VTS. Y USS JSM didn't switch on her AIS? they already know it's a busy place there
2. Hull is grey, impeding visibility of those who were trying to look visually at the ship. Alnic bridge team must've had hard time trying to locate USS JSM visually.
3. Accident time is 0524h local time. the best time to fall asleep even if u r awake. Heck. i'd fell asleep on my watch during that time. Sleepy heads on the Straits driving ships looking for targets not seen on the radar...
4. Radar return is weak due to shape of hull. The design of USS JSM is such that harder to be detected by powerful military radars, let alone civil-spec S-band and S-band navigation radar.
5. Navigation light was not visible (?). hence bridge team on board Alnic can't figure out where USS JSM was heading.
6. Radio silence. Doubtful if the CIC / bridge team of USS JSM would reply to radio calls from any merchant ships. They can't even see her (JSM) on the radar, let alone identify her name, etc.
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post Aug 25 2017, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Aug 25 2017, 11:09 AM)
Director general of national security council,General zulkifle and ambassador zulhasnan rafique met with Trump at White House..

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I wonder why najib is sending NSC's director to meet trump.

General Zulkifle is the former CDF/PAT , while zulhasnan is the former f5e pilot in tudm..
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post Aug 28 2017, 03:26 PM

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[quote=KLboy92,Aug 25 2017, 08:29 PM]
Apparently its normal for US warships to turn off AIS.

The result of the initial inquiry establishing the sequence of events on board USS Fitzgerald has been published. Would like your opinion on it, if you have time to read it:

http://www.secnav.navy.mil/foia/readingroo...0Fitzgerald.pdf

A lot of navies keep their AIS powered off. It's their choice. But from logical point of view, the stretch of water is very busy. Wouldn't it help a bit of u switch on our AIS let ur presence be known thus making it a lot safer? I've done transiting the Singapore Strait countless times and well aware of the hazards. Every bit of information is very helpful.
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post Aug 29 2017, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Aug 28 2017, 04:14 PM)
This is the US Navy, YOU get out of the way!  laugh.gif
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normally any navy ships keep clear of all traffic, only USN ship kiasu enough to tell other ships off like tat.
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post Aug 29 2017, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(vendetta87 @ Aug 28 2017, 08:00 PM)
hmm.gif i skimmed through the report...it only mentions the incident...not a word on what happened

they off IAS but no off radar right ?

the Crystal also got radar or 'watcher' right ?

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i've said earlier, Arleigh Burke class is shaped as such that the radar return is smaller than it should've been. Watchkeepers on Crystal might have thought only small fishing boat when the fact that it was Fitzgerald.

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post Aug 29 2017, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 25 2017, 08:29 PM)
Apparently its normal for US warships to turn off AIS.

The result of the initial inquiry establishing the sequence of events on board USS Fitzgerald has been published. Would like your opinion on it, if you have time to read it:

http://www.secnav.navy.mil/foia/readingroo...0Fitzgerald.pdf
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post Aug 30 2017, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Aug 29 2017, 07:40 PM)
hear tht those US ship which involve collision with commercial ship..got went to south china sea..thn kena hack interupt the system..not sure is bullshit or wat
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Nk cover line on their ship driving incompetence la tu. Macam2 alasan. Hahahahaha
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post Aug 30 2017, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Aug 29 2017, 06:44 PM)
even if its look like a small fishing boat its not okay to ram right thru it lar
both dun even see each other as both dun even tried to change their course prior to the collision

mccain otherwise was reported to have steering problem b4 her collision
though this only fuels some rumors about possible hack to her system (though that sounds like a total bs)
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I believe Alnic didn't even see JSM was even there in the first place. And JSM being JSM, believed she had the right of way. Matilanakkkkk!
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post Sep 6 2017, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 6 2017, 04:38 AM)
no regimental march-past?

the announcers and cameramen suck. really.

didn't know we use MASH bus. interesting.
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tipa2 taun oso like that. tv3suku even more despicable. bole masa assets march past the grand stand, dorg sibuk tunjuk the 2 hosts temubual n buat kuiz ringkas kt pengunjung. mmg despicable acts sungguh!! vmad.gif

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