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TSVickyF
post Mar 13 2017, 06:09 PM, updated 9y ago

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Would just like to get some opinion on who to bear the cost for the Pipe leaking in the condo unit.
Lower floor unit's toilet ceiling pipe is leaking and is asking the upper floor unit owner to bear the cost.
What if in future all other pipes are leaking, is the responsibility to fix still the upper unit?
Please advice.
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post Mar 13 2017, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(VickyF @ Mar 13 2017, 06:09 PM)
Would just like to get some opinion on who to bear the cost for the Pipe leaking in the condo unit.
Lower floor unit's toilet ceiling pipe is leaking and is asking the upper floor unit owner to bear the cost.
What if in future all other pipes are leaking, is the responsibility to fix still the upper unit?
Please advice.
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Your pipe, your responsibility. So Yes.
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post Mar 13 2017, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(VickyF @ Mar 13 2017, 06:09 PM)
Would just like to get some opinion on who to bear the cost for the Pipe leaking in the condo unit.
Lower floor unit's toilet ceiling pipe is leaking and is asking the upper floor unit owner to bear the cost.
What if in future all other pipes are leaking, is the responsibility to fix still the upper unit?
Please advice.
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I heard many cases...
all vary
- Some share cost,
- Some upper

New unit?
TSVickyF
post Mar 13 2017, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Mar 13 2017, 06:24 PM)
I heard many cases...
all vary
- Some share cost,
- Some upper

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It's about 10yrs old.

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post Mar 13 2017, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(VickyF @ Mar 13 2017, 06:09 PM)
Would just like to get some opinion on who to bear the cost for the Pipe leaking in the condo unit.
Lower floor unit's toilet ceiling pipe is leaking and is asking the upper floor unit owner to bear the cost.
What if in future all other pipes are leaking, is the responsibility to fix still the upper unit?
Please advice.
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i could be wrong, but malaysian piping always run upwards, that means its his pipe is leaking................

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post Mar 13 2017, 06:48 PM

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Check with your condo management. They should have the rule.


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post Mar 13 2017, 08:41 PM

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If its your, you​pay for it. Simple.
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post Mar 13 2017, 08:45 PM

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Best is ask your condo management..
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post Mar 13 2017, 11:10 PM

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leaking may coz by many reason,
1. some because waterproofing problem, mean the upper unit waterproofing had problem, then only the water is leak from the upper floor to lower ceiling, then upper floor need to pay.
2. If upper water pipe leaking and wet until lower unit, then upper floor pay.
3. If lower floor pipe leaking, of coz that usually will not effected upper floor, so lower floor pay.

In general, check who's leaking, then who pay. That is possible to check where the leaking from.
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post Mar 13 2017, 11:14 PM

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your pipe, you pay. even if its the toilet shit pipe lol...

btw rain drain pipe who pay (if those runs within your compound)? technically unit owner doesnt need it...
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post Mar 14 2017, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Mar 13 2017, 11:10 PM)
leaking may coz by many reason,
1. some because waterproofing problem, mean the upper unit waterproofing had problem, then only the water is leak from the upper floor to lower ceiling, then upper floor need to pay.
2. If upper water pipe leaking and wet until lower unit, then upper floor pay.
3. If lower floor pipe leaking, of coz that usually will not effected upper floor, so lower floor pay.

In general, check who's leaking, then who pay. That is possible to check where the leaking from.
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It's the lower floor's toilet ceiling pipe tats leaking. N it was patched before the first time but by previous tenant which I din get any complain from.

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QUOTE(VickyF @ Mar 14 2017, 01:37 AM)
It's the lower floor's toilet ceiling pipe tats leaking. N it was patched before the first time but by previous tenant which I din get any complain from.
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If what u say it 100% correct, then just to make sure the lower floor ceiling pipe is belong to upper floor or lower floor, as long as had know the pipe is belong to which floor, then that floor will be pay for it. However, sometime that will still be challenge by why the pipe is leak, for example, if upper floor change floor tiles and hack too deep until break the pipe. or lower floor make a drill to ceiling for reason then make the pipe leak.
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post Mar 24 2017, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Mar 13 2017, 11:10 PM)
leaking may coz by many reason,
1. some because waterproofing problem, mean the upper unit waterproofing had problem, then only the water is leak from the upper floor to lower ceiling, then upper floor need to pay.
2. If upper water pipe leaking and wet until lower unit, then upper floor pay.
3. If lower floor pipe leaking, of coz that usually will not effected upper floor, so lower floor pay.

In general, check who's leaking, then who pay. That is possible to check where the leaking from.
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post Mar 24 2017, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 13 2017, 08:45 PM)
Best is ask your condo management..
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We filed a complaint for the management to come n check... But the manager juz said it's after warranty period, asked us the upstairs n downstairs to look for outside contractor to settle.
Is this actually the right way of the condo management to deal with tis matter?
I just think they are totally irresponsible to answer in such manner.

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post Mar 24 2017, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Mar 13 2017, 11:10 PM)
leaking may coz by many reason,
1. some because waterproofing problem, mean the upper unit waterproofing had problem, then only the water is leak from the upper floor to lower ceiling, then upper floor need to pay.
2. If upper water pipe leaking and wet until lower unit, then upper floor pay.
3. If lower floor pipe leaking, of coz that usually will not effected upper floor, so lower floor pay.

In general, check who's leaking, then who pay. That is possible to check where the leaking from.
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The situation now is tat her lower floor Pipe is leaking n blame the upper floor. But the upper floor doesn't know if it's their fault n of cors would not b responsible until proven guilty by the law. If upper floor is proven to b responsible, of cors they nid to pay.
But the question here is who can show the proof of who is really responsible here?
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post Mar 24 2017, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(VickyF @ Mar 24 2017, 01:32 AM)
The situation now is tat her lower floor Pipe is leaking n blame the upper floor. But the upper floor doesn't know if it's their fault n of cors would not b responsible until proven guilty by the law. If upper floor is proven to b responsible, of cors they nid to pay.
But the question here is who can show the proof of who is really responsible here?
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As per what I know is the condo management have to be a middle party, they need to check on the situation and find out who's piping is leaking. If the management side report is not accept by lower or upper level, then challenge it to the court then, at that time, both of them will need to spend lot of money for lawyer and specialist to check on the place with report, so at the end, they have their own choice to choose what way to settle.
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post Mar 24 2017, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(VickyF @ Mar 24 2017, 01:24 AM)
We filed a complaint for the management to come n check... But the manager juz said it's after warranty period, asked us the upstairs n downstairs to look for outside contractor to settle.
Is this actually the right way of the condo management to deal with tis matter?
I just think they are totally irresponsible to answer in such manner.
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You asking the management to take the responsible or asking them to check for you who pipe is it and what recommend?

It is totally 2 different thing.


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post Mar 24 2017, 11:39 AM

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Under the Strata Title Act (Part XV, s58 (a)); the presumption (under the law) is that if the roof leaks in a strata title, upstairs is responsible.

Enforcement of the Strata Title Act is still unproven. Ask the JMB to confirm and make a ruling who is responsible.

Sometimes the owner upstairs is a gentlemen and pays, sometimes upstairs and downstairs share 50:50, other times downstairs pay all.
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post Mar 24 2017, 12:25 PM

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Off main incoming water, if no leak, mean that the source.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 24 2017, 12:25 PM)
Off main incoming water, if no leak, mean that the source.
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was about to say the same thing. off just the upstairs unit water. if the water stops. then its confirmed its upper units water piping (which 90% chance it is).

but upper unit also need to confirm that the lower unit is not the cause of it. such as drill/hacking ceiling which may cause pipes to rattle/crack.

The issue normally arises when both parties didnt do anything and pipe leaks. so of course everyone say. its management to fix as they didnt take care of pipe.

good luck.
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post Mar 31 2017, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(VickyF @ Mar 13 2017, 06:09 PM)
Would just like to get some opinion on who to bear the cost for the Pipe leaking in the condo unit.
Lower floor unit's toilet ceiling pipe is leaking and is asking the upper floor unit owner to bear the cost.
What if in future all other pipes are leaking, is the responsibility to fix still the upper unit?
Please advice.
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Hi, have you found the solution and contractor to fix the piping? Does it include hacking the walls and re-tiling?
I am trying to find a contractor to fix mine too.
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post Apr 4 2017, 01:01 PM

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what pipe is leaking? incoming water source or outgoing drain pipe?
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post Apr 5 2017, 12:48 PM

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If you had a bad neighbor (especially those for rent out not own stay), although the leaking is cause from their side, they won't bear to cost also.
I met one before. So unluck..
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post Apr 25 2017, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(lazzy_dogg @ Apr 4 2017, 01:01 PM)
what pipe is leaking? incoming water source or outgoing drain pipe?
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Outgoing.
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post Aug 19 2017, 04:50 PM

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i'm having the same issue now and looks like it is on the upper unit to rectify the issue.
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post Sep 13 2017, 12:14 AM

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Part XV in Strata Management (Maintenance and Management) Regulations 2015 already stated what should do when there is any inter-floor leakage.

In summary,

1. Parcel owner notifies the management body on the inter-floor leakage.

2. Within 7 days from the date of the Notice, the management body shall carry out inspection of the affected parcel to determine the cause of the inter-floor leakage AND determine the party responsible to rectify the defect.

3. Within 5 days from the date of inspection, the management body shall issue the certificate of inspection to state the cause of the inter-floor leakage and the party responsible to rectify.
(Any person who is not satisfied Management’s decision may refer the matter to the COB who shall determine the cause of the inter-floor leakage and the party responsible to rectify it.)

4. Within 7 days of receipt of the certificate of inspection, the responsible party (as determined by the Management or COB), has a duty to take all necessary steps and measures to rectify the inter-floor leakage.

5. However, if the responsible party refuses to or fails to rectify the leakage within the 7 days, the Management then assumes the duty to immediately take all the necessary steps and measures to rectify the inter-floor leakage and shall charge and recover all cost and expense from the responsible party.

(details can refer to HERE)




Part XV extracted from SMR 2015 for reference
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So in future, once you report to management, management need to do something. Though upper level dont want to fix it, management need to fix it and recover upper owner. If the management not doing anything, you may complain them using SMR 2015. Know your right, dont let the management fool you!! Using all kind of reasons e.g. talk to upper unit first or 50:50 cost sharing. biggrin.gif

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NonTeoh
post Jun 25 2018, 10:37 AM

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Hi want to check on related topic. The pipe that leads into your condo which supplies water - is that owner or management responsibility?
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post Jul 21 2019, 08:37 PM

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Hi. I have the same problem. I am the lower unit. The upper unit water pipe leak because of our mistake drilling through the water pipe. Right now i have talk with the management, and I bear the cost of repairing the pipe. But unfortunately while repairing the pipe (which take about 3-4 days, major leakage) the upper unit staying outside ane they asked me to bare the cost of their hotel. Should i pay for their staying outside if according to law?
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QUOTE(NonTeoh @ Jun 25 2018, 10:37 AM)
Hi want to check on related topic. The pipe that leads into your condo which supplies water - is that owner or management responsibility?
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Hi, I have similar problem with yours. There's water leaking from pipe outside entrance of my door to the water pipe meter. As the water pipe outside the entrance of my door to the pipe meter, is it my responsibility to repair? My view is that the pipe is through the common area - hence should it be under the management to repair. Problem is, my property management says I have to bear the cost as the pipe leads to my unit.

Hope you can share what was the outcome to your problem.
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QUOTE(asylum14 @ Apr 10 2020, 01:22 PM)
Hi, I have similar problem with yours.  There's water leaking from pipe outside entrance of my door to the water pipe meter.  As the water pipe outside the entrance of my door to the pipe meter, is it my responsibility to repair?  My view is that the pipe is through the common area - hence should it be under the management to repair.  Problem is, my property management says I have to bear the cost as the pipe leads to my unit. 

Hope you can share what was the outcome to your problem.
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Hi, I am facing the same issue at the moment. It would be really helpful if you could advise what did you do or the outcome of the problem. Thanks!

 

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