think to engine overhaul for my car (mileage 120k+), but hear some ppl say if not overhaul proper will cause you car worst than before, is't true?
anyone does overhaul before? can share you experience?

Hmm..is overhaul really necessary? my car is already 180k and its still running good.

overhaul is needed when your engine 'makan minyak hitam' a lot.

Issit true that some mechanic have something to HEAR your engine internal ??
its like a steteskop ,... to hear whether the conrod n bearing got kong or not ...

as far as i know...
the are 2 types of overhaul

1- Top Overhaul
- where mechanic will clean up the engine block, flush all the carbon,
replace the ring.. etc. basically the top part of engine...
will cost you around Rm500-600
(my experience on my proton 2 years ago)
effect?- yess as the egine will run effectively with out the carbon etc..
imagine you having bad flu.. hard to breath right hehe

2- Major Overhaul
basically cleaning the WHOLE engine and may include replacing the shaft's block or the bearing.. from top to down. usually when the bearing of the engine starts to sound, haha means you better do the major overhaul.
COST?-- alot more than Top Overhaul for sure.
EFFECTIVE?
haha since theres alot of Halfcut shop around these days,
replace the engine la... better. (this is what my mechanic told me)

but, its all depend on you car la bro..
and the budget

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Added on March 6, 2007, 10:18 pmif the bearing starts to sound, no need special tools la bro hehehe
our supersense ears can hear it.

but i tell you one thing..
once ur ears start to grab the bearing sound... mesti sakit hati punya hehe

This post has been edited by bottak: Mar 6 2007, 10:18 PM

trouble is now most mechanics like to just change the engine as it's much easier to do than an overhaul. overhauling does have it's advantages. a properly overhauled engine will last a lot longer than an engine bought at a half cut shop. my own engine is a prime example. i blew the engine at about 45k km due to being too greedy for power during r & d. one con rod was bent, slight damage to the crank & cylinders. i overhauled the engine and now it's still going fine. current mileage at 203+++km.
the art of properly overhauling an engine is going the way of the dodo bird as most mechanics now are too lazy to do an overhaul. with all forms of art, if u don't use it, u lose it.

TOTALLY agree with maddriver. Got my original Saga 4G15P overhauled a few years back.
When it came back, it sounded soooooo sweet! Almost perfect! You would never hear a Saga sound so quiet & smooth...
Still running strong after 500,000 KM!

Too bad I didn't know him back then

agree with u as well....at least overhaul u know your engine condition (e.g like in ur case ur conrod is bend) where else if u get half cut u never knows the engine condition unless u do a full overhaul which is another cost again....which is why overhaul is better than getting a 2nd hand engine (where u think you don't need overhauling)...

thanks for advise..
now only worry is foreman dun have good skill enough ..
but i think still will go overhaul for my car, anyone know normally how many days need to do it and cost how much (full overhaul)?

since you are going to overhaul ur engine might as well do pnp can save some cost on the piston ring and gasket...hehe more power than

generally, one day to remove the engine, one day to strip, one day for machine shop work, three days for engine balancing, three days to put the engine back together, one day to put the engine back into the car, two days of testing before we give the car back to the customer. an overhaul job can cost anywhere between rm2 to 5k.

12 days for total overhaul? how about top overhaul only - still need to take out the engine kar?

12 days is considered short for a premium job from maddirver Put 2 weeks aside just in case.
Top overhauls shouldn't take as long & it doesn't usually involve removing the engine from the engine bay, but it depends on the engine's condition. If things are bad, not worth it. Better go for a total overhaul.

...still "feeding" my piggy-bank to get my baby overhauled by maddirver

Bro, chyap99, get in touch with maddirver for the overhaul. I assure you, you won't regret it

ooi! don't say till like that, lah! malu top overhaul, if done correctly, should take 3 days or less

ic.. thanks for advise.. still had to wait for few month to get enough money..
between where is maddirver shop locate?

wowww full overhaul so long arrr :faint:

normally if full overhaul how u guys going to drive arrr ... how to go work lol ... i tot 1~2 days can kautim wan haha

my fren told me the time he went for overhaul only take around 5 days, coz done by experience foreman, is't possible?

why not? it i've nothing else to do, i can do it in three days..........heck, we've rebuilt blown race engines in 48 hours!

but depends on wether the block is punctured or not, right... XD

did top overhaul on my previous saga. not bad, the mech took a week, but changed almost everything save the head itself (my dad lousy driver wan ) did free PNP too, he said wanna polish skill

wow ... 3 days seem quite fast hehe

maddriver u got provide overhaul service ??? btw where u live ..

i'll get to u once i got enuf cash for it lol

don't hope that i can do it in three days............only can do that if i don't have any other jobe to do. we do provide overhaul services. we're located in shah alam

maddriver, any contact no pls?

Driving Nissan Sentra 2001 1.8 GXE, done 180000km, fuel consumption is good 1L=11-12km, no blue smoke, engine oil stable.

But when throttle, it is so noisy. Once get better after changing muffler (mechanic said exhaust gas is blocked by the dirty muffler) But still very noisy, my friend said maybe need overhaul, some said change engine mounting screw will do.

The noise follow the rpm one, higher rpm, higher noise. Quite intolerable..

In this case, do I need top overhaul / total overhaul / just tuning ? HELP ~

need to see the car to check what's wrong...... call me.....

hi,
driving vios'03..engine condition is ok but minyak itam ilang...no bocor at all...no blue or white smoke when running....i think need to do top overhaul..pm me the cost n ur advice..thanks...dont forget ur add also...

48 around da clock? wow

Using what type of oil? Already 8 years, should be using either semi-syn or mineral....

Im thinking that you just have a dirty engine.


Nuff said

sorry to kacau thread/post, since its about overhaul,

workshop recommended me to do engine blue print, they say its better than overhauling.

they also want ur money..

using castrol semi syn....

my satria's engine is about 250,000km old....... still using 5w30 syn engine oil...... no problems.......

I just ask foreman to clean my fuel injection unit and spray some "cleaner" into the inlet of the engine.. now the engine sooo smooth and less noise...

the cost.. RM30...

my engine on 120k km...

I am d riving Nissan Sunny 20 years. Notice that my car makan minyak hitam a bit. After 3,000 km oil change, I notice the oil level drop to 75% of the dipstick level. (assuming oil is filled up to 100% of the dipstick reading). ANd when I changed oil (around 4,000 km), I notice the oil color is very dark n contains some fine aluminium pieces.

Wondering whether my car need to do overhauled or not?

gee.. nice.. luckily i stumbled across this thread... maddriver.. i subsribce your engine overhaul topic ady in case i need one.. haha

Longtime no hear from you.......Now in Balakong some more......

I would like to know how much is it to do top and major overhaul for kelisa?

rm2200 including oversized piston last time i checked for full overhaul

if top overhaul only?

Can u pm the contact of your mech?

Depends on what is needed to be changed also......

i went to prodrag near sunway area, call this guy 0126535322 (ali)

i read in autowrold forum that a top overhaul is required if you have overheated your engine before...

I remember bout 3 years ago that i blew my radiator in an accident. I drove to the police station which was 200 meters away and then had my car towed.

Since now my engine is gulping up engine oil, could it be that i need a top overhaul and could get away with not doing a full overhaul?

or is it better to just do a full rebuild and eat roti canai for 3 months?
Also, if i opt for top overhaul, when the mechs do it can i know if i really really need to do a full overhaul from looking at the engine?

Yes, once you open up, can check the pistons and rings already, including the cylinder walls....

davird, it looks like ur car already got the symptom of burnout head gasket.. or maybe ur head is already tilt slightly coz of the overheating.
better bring to foremen n like vr2turbo said, check the pistons and rings..

Yup, if the head warp, then oil can leak, even water can disappear. Worse is when the two mixes together.....

if the 2 mixes... just kiss ur cash goodbye... hahahaha

My mechanic used to joke, if kena teh tarik then finished.......that is what you get when water goes into the engine oil....

Wow. Umm. Ahhh. Ummm, damn, I'm lost for words already.
So how? Any other symptoms to look at to know if I have a blown head, tilted head?
Currently my car has no overheating issues at all. A non stop drive from kl to Penang without stops also no problem. It was only that one time during that accident that I was so pissed off and drove the car to the popo station to lodge a report.
Most of the mechs are suggesting full rebuild coz save time and $$$. But I really want to know if I need it before doing it.

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Added on December 3, 2011, 2:41 amSo compression test first to check see whats wrong. After that only decide if top overhaul or full overhaul right?

Any idea where to go for a compression test on a hyundai at puchong (preferably), pj or KL?

Good trustable, reliable mechs are welcomed.

This post has been edited by Davird: Dec 3 2011, 02:43 AM

Puchong? Okay pm you my mechanic's contact. He is in Puchong area.
Try him out....let him know your problems.....

Thanks VR2. Will go over and see him on monday. Hopefully he can give me some sign of relief.

Yup, hope it is not that bad.....

Does your mechanic do engine overhaul too?
Coz i live in Puchong...

if i jus wan to overhaul my engine (preferably top overhaul only), what is the recommended mileage to overhaul?

i only have minor mod on car which is hotbits full exhaust + k&n filter


afteroverhaul (top overhaul only), what significant difference can i feel on my car? acceleration?

my 7 year old matrix 133k .. still running like rock... can reach 160km... only fuel consumption not that good.. haha.. AT is not so good too..

Sorry to bother, but I really do need help with my car.

My old Peugeot 206 seemed to be having muddy sludge in the radiator coolant reservoir, and quite shockingly it appeared almost the same in the engine oil.

I went to DTox in PJ to have a quick opinion, and he mentioned that the gasket sealant in the engine must have worn off and start leaking in between the radiator water and the engine oil.

He recommended for me to just go for an overhaul.

In this case scenario; would I need just the top overhaul, or the works?

Could I get any recommendation mechanics near USJ to do this?

Very much appreciate the reply on this.

a top overhaul would include the head gasket which is probably the main cause here... so technically assuming everything else is alright.....

Thank you lsm1991. I appreciate the reply and your opinion on this.

Do you have any mechanics that you could recommend nearing USJ?

I had enquired with GeotAuto, which they just casually replied its going to costs me really crazy price, which I told them that sounds like I am buying a new engine!

Hopefully this sort of works don't costs too much and too long of a fix.

Cheers.

nope i dont know of any mechanics who specialize in these frenchies.... how much is that 'crazy price' may i ask?

6K... no way I'd pay for that price, and I know I am not refurbishing an engine the size of a lorry.

Don't go to Lee Tyres in Court 2 USJ6.
My friend is quite happy with Twan Auto Service in USJ 20. But I send my wira/avanza to Pandamaran.
Your engine probably needs only head gasket replacement i.e top overhaul, I would stay away from any mechanics that recommends complete overhaul which includes all bearings and piston ring replacement.

Edit: yeah 6K is ridiculous for your engine condition.

This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 21 2016, 07:40 PM

Thank you zeng,

I will drive over to Twan Auto Service as you recommended and see what they could do.

I heard GeotAuto was an alternative to the Peugeot service center, but that kind of price is a load of rubbish.

I am hopeful to have this sorted out.

Thank you again.

I remember top overhaul is around rm600 to rm800. Not sure if top overhaul really involve head gasket replacement though.

Full overhaul is around 3k to 6k depend on parts that are known and yet to be known to be replaced. Sometimes engine replacement is cheaper than full overhaul.

Im not so familiar with that engine, what the part costs are OR what the mech wants to change.... but for that kind of money you can easily fully rebuild a most simple Japanese engines @_@ (not one of the high performance ones ofc)

I 'hope' this Twan Auto fellow is an honest guy .....
if they offer you 'full overhaul', I'd suggest you walk away.

Edit:An honest 'top overhaul' job should include replacements of head gasket kit and valve cover gasket only.
Unless mechanically in poor shape and to keep costs low, an honest mechanic (which is lacking generally) should replace other consumables like valve stem seals, spark plug set etc only when really necessary.

This post has been edited by zeng: Sep 22 2016, 10:07 AM

Any shops to recommend in Penang to rebuild a 4G13 engine for wira? Im looking for a shop that rebuilds engines as a specialty, not just once in 5 years.

Same here... but no reputable workshop in pg area .

paging Balanced

You can try this workshop, DRG motorsport. Its a car + motor workshop. Beside sungai nibong bus terminal.
He is a bawah pokok mechanic, he's a malay guy who constantly overhauls mitsubishi and honda cars mostly. Also the price he charge is quite cheap for full overhaul. But he takes his time and doesn't like people to rush him.

Any recommendations for shops in KL/S'gor that specialise in:

1) Engine overhaul/top overhaul/rebuild
2) Auto transmission

My car is a Wira 1.5 AT.

Thanks!

pomen2u nt nice?
or mainland p44 autoworks

P44 autoworks? Just looking for kerja kemas type of workmanship.

Gonna spray engine bay and overhaul my engine. Basically wanna make it look factory fresh finish

This guy have a lot of car that he haven settle, JDMH or 199 garage (for turbo car) recommended.

if mechanic say :'Old car like that loh..... '
meaning:-
1. he does not seem to interest in service and repair your car?
2. old care realy like that...
3. time to change car!

I'll say time to go to another workshop. LOL...old car if maintained properly will still perform almost like new.

Just that local mechanics are lazy or don't know how to find out the problems. All rattlings can be fixed. All shaking can be fixed. All leaks can be fixed.

Hi guys, y'all can recommend a good workshop (trusted) for Honda Civic FD?
Preferabbly in PJ area for service and also overhaul.

Would appreciate the input.

Appreciate if someone can recommend good and reliable mechanic to do overhaul or replacing engine for my bezza due to overheating issue.

Areas: PJ/ Damansara/ Subang/ Sunway.

This post has been edited by KOHTT: May 16 2022, 07:45 PM

Ouch...... relatively new bezza overheats.
Should provide your preferred area like JB/Penang/Kepong etc..

Edit: Aluminium cylinder head and block design?

This post has been edited by zeng: May 16 2022, 10:55 AM

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