think to engine overhaul for my car (mileage 120k+), but hear some ppl say if not overhaul proper will cause you car worst than before, is't true?
anyone does overhaul before? can share you experience?

Hmm..is overhaul really necessary? my car is already 180k and its still running good.

overhaul is needed when your engine 'makan minyak hitam' a lot.

Issit true that some mechanic have something to HEAR your engine internal ??
its like a steteskop ,... to hear whether the conrod n bearing got kong or not ...

as far as i know...
the are 2 types of overhaul

1- Top Overhaul
- where mechanic will clean up the engine block, flush all the carbon,
replace the ring.. etc. basically the top part of engine...
will cost you around Rm500-600
(my experience on my proton 2 years ago)
effect?- yess as the egine will run effectively with out the carbon etc..
imagine you having bad flu.. hard to breath right hehe

2- Major Overhaul
basically cleaning the WHOLE engine and may include replacing the shaft's block or the bearing.. from top to down. usually when the bearing of the engine starts to sound, haha means you better do the major overhaul.
COST?-- alot more than Top Overhaul for sure.
EFFECTIVE?
haha since theres alot of Halfcut shop around these days,
replace the engine la... better. (this is what my mechanic told me)

but, its all depend on you car la bro..
and the budget

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Added on March 6, 2007, 10:18 pmif the bearing starts to sound, no need special tools la bro hehehe
our supersense ears can hear it.

but i tell you one thing..
once ur ears start to grab the bearing sound... mesti sakit hati punya hehe

This post has been edited by bottak: Mar 6 2007, 10:18 PM

trouble is now most mechanics like to just change the engine as it's much easier to do than an overhaul. overhauling does have it's advantages. a properly overhauled engine will last a lot longer than an engine bought at a half cut shop. my own engine is a prime example. i blew the engine at about 45k km due to being too greedy for power during r & d. one con rod was bent, slight damage to the crank & cylinders. i overhauled the engine and now it's still going fine. current mileage at 203+++km.
the art of properly overhauling an engine is going the way of the dodo bird as most mechanics now are too lazy to do an overhaul. with all forms of art, if u don't use it, u lose it.

TOTALLY agree with maddriver. Got my original Saga 4G15P overhauled a few years back.
When it came back, it sounded soooooo sweet! Almost perfect! You would never hear a Saga sound so quiet & smooth...
Still running strong after 500,000 KM!

Too bad I didn't know him back then

agree with u as well....at least overhaul u know your engine condition (e.g like in ur case ur conrod is bend) where else if u get half cut u never knows the engine condition unless u do a full overhaul which is another cost again....which is why overhaul is better than getting a 2nd hand engine (where u think you don't need overhauling)...

thanks for advise..
now only worry is foreman dun have good skill enough ..
but i think still will go overhaul for my car, anyone know normally how many days need to do it and cost how much (full overhaul)?

since you are going to overhaul ur engine might as well do pnp can save some cost on the piston ring and gasket...hehe more power than

generally, one day to remove the engine, one day to strip, one day for machine shop work, three days for engine balancing, three days to put the engine back together, one day to put the engine back into the car, two days of testing before we give the car back to the customer. an overhaul job can cost anywhere between rm2 to 5k.

12 days for total overhaul? how about top overhaul only - still need to take out the engine kar?

12 days is considered short for a premium job from maddirver Put 2 weeks aside just in case.
Top overhauls shouldn't take as long & it doesn't usually involve removing the engine from the engine bay, but it depends on the engine's condition. If things are bad, not worth it. Better go for a total overhaul.

...still "feeding" my piggy-bank to get my baby overhauled by maddirver

Bro, chyap99, get in touch with maddirver for the overhaul. I assure you, you won't regret it

ooi! don't say till like that, lah! malu top overhaul, if done correctly, should take 3 days or less

ic.. thanks for advise.. still had to wait for few month to get enough money..
between where is maddirver shop locate?

wowww full overhaul so long arrr :faint:

normally if full overhaul how u guys going to drive arrr ... how to go work lol ... i tot 1~2 days can kautim wan haha

my fren told me the time he went for overhaul only take around 5 days, coz done by experience foreman, is't possible?

why not? it i've nothing else to do, i can do it in three days..........heck, we've rebuilt blown race engines in 48 hours!

but depends on wether the block is punctured or not, right... XD

did top overhaul on my previous saga. not bad, the mech took a week, but changed almost everything save the head itself (my dad lousy driver wan ) did free PNP too, he said wanna polish skill

wow ... 3 days seem quite fast hehe

maddriver u got provide overhaul service ??? btw where u live ..

i'll get to u once i got enuf cash for it lol