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JasonAubama
post Jun 22 2018, 04:45 PM

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Just came across an existing “Spiritual Possession” Recurrence Episode. During the last episode before I became Taoist Priest, none of the religious methods work whereby I didn’t seek for any exorcism assistance this time.

The possession took place where Personalities from God, Deva, GuanDi, GuanYin,....

I was so nervous as I’m not an exorcist & so worry that if I make a detrimental wrong move but must face the challenge in front of me.

With every careful steps I took at risks, the Episode Settled in 72hours confirming “Emotional Turbulence” instead of “Demonic Possession”.

I was very lucky this round whereby I don’t believe in god but respect spiritual beings, that allowing me to deal with the hysteria tension in calm.

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post Jun 23 2018, 03:47 AM

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The catch was tricky:
1. “Possession” Personalities comprise of Abrahamic Religions, Hinduism, Buddhism & Taoism Characters. Contacted an Abrahamic Religion Exorcist but confined for their fellow brotherhood. ❌

2. “The God” seems the leader & make some promises during our conversations. However all promises broken within the next 24h where we had repeated conversations & promises again. Something peculiar that not consistently jive. ⁉️

3. Queuing for 3 hours to consult a famous Psychiatrist just for 3 minutes, asking his consent if I could bring the Patient to see him as New Case. I could just call but I show my respect to meet up. The famous Psychiatrist Charged me RM160 Consultation fee & after half an hour of consideration upon my request, he is willing to discount RM20 for me. The refund process may take another 30 minutes but I must leave without collecting the money. ⁉️

4. On my way back, I saw a middle age homeless lady sitting in front of a famous Taoism Temple. I took an opportunity to jump out from my car while queuing at Red Light, pass her some money but surprisingly she scolded me as if I’m treating her like beggar.

Thanks for her Pride & no regret that I forego the RM20 refund as I’m Not a beggar as well.

The Famous Psychiatrist promised me but broken his promise immediately after I walked out from his room, worse than “The God”.

I must not relying on such professional without integrity. ❌
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post Jun 23 2018, 08:28 AM

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I consistently refuse for any spiritual beings to take charge my Consciousness, thus I can never be a medium in my Free will power.

I used to believe in God/Gods.
Having opportunity to deal with Gods/Deities as a Priest, deepened my experimental probes in various rituals.
I went through a “dead” process with 15 days in Quarantine ICU, confirmed viral attack, forced to stay away from smoke environment for my survival where I stop practicing priest service.

Now, my stand is clear, ie not believe in Gods as I crossed all religions & medical science but respect all spiritual beings for harmony living. I would only suggest upon specific request/reasons.

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post Jun 24 2018, 03:52 PM

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Albert Einstein once wrote on a blackboard: “Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts.”

Sounds like Philosophy of Tao?


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post Jun 24 2018, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(conxtion @ Jun 24 2018, 06:31 PM)
Umm .. yes, perhaps Einstein was an accidental Taoist, but more probably is because Taoism is a logical and scientific Way.
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Hahaha, I was an accidental Taoist Priest as well 😅
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post Jun 26 2018, 11:10 PM

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One significant observation is that, all these personalities sharing a common physical body but didn’t communicate to each other.

For instance after Mr A communicated with me & Mr B has no idea at all, even though processed from the same horse mouth.?
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post Jun 28 2018, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Armata @ Jun 28 2018, 10:26 AM)
so i was told the main difference between taoism and buddhism would be :

- taoism prays with jossstick but buddhism doesnt

is this true?
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I look at cultural practices rather than religious.

信假香傳 Message/Wishes via smoke (Joss Stick)
It is more a Chinese Tradition that lighting Aroma was a luxury practice.

Environmental control is getting much stringent where minimizing smoke and burning setting in. I burn Joss sticks during rituals, ceremonies, festival & occasionally.
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post Jun 28 2018, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jun 28 2018, 07:44 AM)
Taoist scripture.

It states in no uncertain terms, '一切天仙不附人身'.

'The gods will not inhabit or possess human bodies for whatever reason'.
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1. Assuming Gods never posses human body, it read as NO God?
2. The Author said so?
3. Then how the communication carry out?
4. Is Meditation kind of Reverse Possession?

I have no clue 🤔
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post Jun 29 2018, 09:52 PM

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If I were to tell you my GOD is Superman, I’m sure all of you could picture the Character in mind with prior knowledge of the story.

If I could project an image in your mind by putting my red underwear outside, I’m sure you will bow down at me.

I kept asking is God come first or Story first, in order for spiritual beings to emulate.
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post Jul 4 2018, 09:21 PM

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From Thailand Taoism Association, the 63th Celestial Master Zhang, my dad’s teacher.


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post Jul 5 2018, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(conxtion @ Jul 4 2018, 11:43 PM)
Wow!

How about you?  Your dad taught you?
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My dad is my Mentor 師父 but my Teacher 師傅 taught me in formal. My dad enrolled 4 protégés 徒弟 (excluding me) while my teacher only one (not me).

Many peers suggested I should exercise my hereditary hierarchy to lead but I’m not keen.

Taoism in tradition follows Mentoring System like Doctor & Lawyer. I’m not a good follower where I believe in many teachers just like my Technology & Innovations, Sales & Marketing, Corporate Analysts & Strategy, C-Level & WTO involvement, & many other exploration where no one did before.

In aviation industry, I have no choice but follow protocol strictly to keep my professional qualifications. When permitted, I would encourage all of us dare to explore, question & challenge the norm, you will find much excitement & beauty in life.

Very often, experts told me I m p o s s i b l e where I showed I’m Possible 😅

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post Jul 5 2018, 11:09 PM

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When my immediate superior stop me doing something Impossible, I would follow at Protocol but pay extra careful attention. In many cases, when the whole world accepted my works overwhelmingly, the first person tapping my back on stage is my immediate superior, who banned my idea earlier 😅

The other key word is “common sense”. Whenever I took on “impossible” task in my unique way, often people would say that is common sense. I got it but why can’t they have Common sense for past decades?

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post Jul 6 2018, 12:58 PM

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不尚賢,使民不爭;
不貴難得之貨,使民不為盜;
不見可欲,使民心不亂;

If I were a bagger without social status, no valuable treasure, no apparent attraction, then no one would ever rob, steal, admire me.

It implies in Slavery Age & China Communism where everyone is monotonous for society harmony. So the emperor would strip you up with all taxes, make sure everyone is poor, ensuring their political regime forever.

After understanding, it is up to individual to accept or reject such teachings in current society. I don’t buy it, I’m who I am.

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post Jul 7 2018, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(danokchonger @ Jul 7 2018, 10:13 AM)
it depends on how you read it with your preconceive notions of what matters to you. a literal outlook or an abstraction. also interpretations in english adds another layer to it ....

and these are just the top half of the chapter, what the bottom half prescribes and how does it resonate with the top half ? and how about the duality concept espoused in chapter 2 and its abstract use in this chapter ?
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post Jul 7 2018, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(JasonAubama @ Oct 26 2017, 11:03 PM)
WuWei 無為: The Taoist Way of Not Forcing or Obstructing the flow of natural harmony!
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是以聖人之治,虛其心,實其腹,弱其志,強其骨,常使民無知無欲,使夫知者不敢為也。為無為,則無不治。
The 2nd half of Chapter 3 suggesting the methodology (find translation at your own discretion).

In my layman view, it satisfies basic hierarchy of needs (body) but refrain from knowledge & greed (mind), literally that is the principle of 無為 WuWei.

In DaoDeJing, there are many contradicting statements & upto individual when & how to apply.

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post Jul 8 2018, 10:11 AM

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Acupuncture, TaiChi & many others proven longevity techniques initiated from Taoism. How can we make use of Contradicting Taoism Teachings for our mutual benefits?

Reading between the lines, making use of the teachings at your own discretion for our mutual benefits. Once we understand the Flow of Natural, Yin & Yang coexistence and so on.

Making use of your wisdom instead of following those dogma blindly. The learning & thinking process where I encourage each of us to challenge.

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post Jul 18 2018, 12:01 AM

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“Discovery is seeing what everybody else has seen, and thinking what nobody else has thought.”

DR. ALBERT SZENT-GYORGYI

Nobel Prize winner in Physiology/Medicine in 1937
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post Jul 25 2018, 01:22 PM

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JiangTou 降頭 (Tame Head), Poisonous Magic 蠱毒, Voodoo, Black Magic & many others are kind of Brain Waves Control via Spiritual Beings, Poisons & unknowing ways.

MaoShan Denomination 茅山派 reportedly leading in Taoism at stringent criteria.
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post Jul 25 2018, 10:29 PM

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A Gun is Good & Bad coexistence depending on the user. In debatable scenario, it is not easy to judge good or bad. A judgment of Bad at a time that could be Good at different times and vise visa.

Both Good & Bad applying same operational processes just like firing a gun shot.

My dad saved someone from spiritual beings disturbances but the “force” diverted to me where I had many near dead experiences. Could that someone is a killer, drug trafficker, ....?

I don’t know how to operate a gun 🤗
Even though I may have some 😅

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post Aug 11 2018, 02:21 PM

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Lunar 7th Month ZhongYuan Salvation Festive 中元超渡法會.


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