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jackychua
post Mar 5 2007, 12:59 PM, updated 19y ago

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This thread is created to ask for seller responsibility before proceeding to make police report.

Jenssen is selling fake earphones over 10 bulks and now discovered. He cant explain anything but just keep digging on buyers trust.

1) Selling faulty set
2) Passing faulty/used set to other buyer.
3) Not respond for warranty claiming (Stated 2 yrs, but told buyer not under warranty for some issue).
4) Not refund although promised. (He promised to refund in full if we found tat the earphone is fake to gain trust for the bulk?)

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Official response from Sennheiser

Thread:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/287916/+1120


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for those who being fooled by this fellow. can check here also.
(from http://reviews.ebay.com/Fake-Sennheiser-CX...00000003024776)

http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11598&page=3
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8392

**UPDATE**

I have managed to get this official response from Sennheiser:

Hello -

Thank you for your inquiry and interest in Sennheiser. The "CX300" on eBay from China are not authentic Sennheiser's, though they may have been labeled as such.

Further, our official statement on OEM goods regarding the CX300 and other similar looking items is stated below:

"The CX 300 ear canal headphones are manufactured by a Sennheiser production partner in Asia. Since Sennheiser does not own the exclusive design rights for this product, it is up to this or other OEM manufacturer(s) to sell the same or similar products to other companies (like Creative, for example). However, only the CX 300 is compliant with the Sennheiser quality standards, as only this product is continously checked by Sennheiser employees on site.

Since we neither know where and under what conditions other companies like Creative manufacture or source their products, nor do we know what inner construction and materials they use, please understand that it is not up to Sennheiser to judge or compare competitor´s products. Nevertheless, regardless of the visual similarities, "Audio", one of Germany´s major audio magazines, rated the CX 300 (60 points) significantly better than the Creative EP630 (40 points) in their January 2006 issue."

Thus, the CX300 is not available as an OEM version (beware of polybagged, "no logo" products or bootleg packaging) Our CX300 uses entirely different components, although it shares the same shell as some of other brands.

If you need additional assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Eric Palonen
Sennheiser Headphone Specialist


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if you all see the two sets personally. sure you all can differentiate the bass, treble and the built quality.
This post has been edited by jackychua: Mar 5 2007, 01:06 PM
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post Mar 13 2007, 12:09 AM

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its time to BUMP up this thread .Now Jenssen lari edi .
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post Mar 14 2007, 01:59 PM

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ok i spent few hours to read the original post
i thing all thing vy clear d.. but yet comfirm just invite jenssen here..
jenssen 2 day no log in d,
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post Mar 14 2007, 02:21 PM

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base on pass experience... the seller will cabut ... not offence ya ~
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post Mar 14 2007, 04:09 PM

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You can look for Asparagine instead if Jenssen isn't logging in
They're either the same ppl or friends in life
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post Mar 14 2007, 05:02 PM

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Well guys, i feels that actions should be taken from now.
We were gave him enough of time but he doesn't respond at all.
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post Mar 14 2007, 05:21 PM

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Or maybe Asparagine is his second ID since both selling the same stuff and from the same place.
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post Mar 15 2007, 01:35 PM

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I'm joining in the complaint for the fake AKG that he sold to me. Already a week and no news from him.
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post Mar 15 2007, 03:50 PM

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Hmm I didn't know Sennheiser has fakes until I stumble upon TS's post.
Did google-ling about my PX100. It has information to spot for fakes. luckily that my 1st online purchase from Lyn indeed genuine. Before buying it, I tested my friend's PX100 whom he brought from SG. I was blown away with the sound and the price tongue.gif. So i quickly ordered it smile.gif Nice product!

http://reviews.ebay.com/How-to-spot-a-FAKE...000000003122877

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QUOTE(KilJim @ Mar 14 2007, 04:09 PM)
You can look for Asparagine instead if Jenssen isn't logging in
They're either the same ppl or friends in life
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I wonder if MOD can trace thier IP address to check whether they 'both' login using the same internet connection.... wink.gif
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Mar 16 2007, 12:55 AM)
I wonder if MOD can trace thier IP address to check whether they 'both' login using the same internet connection.... wink.gif
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3 possible access:

1. jenssen
2. Asparagine
3. vyncent

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post Mar 16 2007, 03:27 PM

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still no come here to explain

2. Asparagine still go log in

other 2 is no log in = =

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post Mar 17 2007, 04:01 PM

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oh...finally it's here...we have to gather the buyers here 1st be4 we can start to take further actions...coz from what i see,some of them in this thread are not buyers,just expressing opinions and adding oil into the fire. I hope buyers can show themselves here so we can start to discuss on what further action to take.

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post Mar 17 2007, 05:35 PM

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I am buyer from 1st bulk and from the start I hoping Jenssen can explain this clearly.. But now he seems like running away and make me feels that he purposely sell this fake stuff.

Honestly I am satisfied with the sound quality but what I want is CX300 and not something that similar to it !

He should keep his promise and refund us because this is not genuine CX300.

Wish to hear more from other buyers.
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post Mar 17 2007, 06:39 PM

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I'm one of the buyer for AKG K324P. No PM from for more than a week - i asked for a replacement from him.
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those seller always like this.


how about the warranty ? How the seller provide the warranty card ? if that is fake then the seller cant provide warranty.

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post Mar 18 2007, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(CoolGuy @ Mar 17 2007, 05:35 PM)
I am buyer from 1st bulk and from the start I hoping Jenssen can explain this clearly.. But now he seems like running away and make me feels that he purposely sell this fake stuff.

Honestly I am satisfied with the sound quality but what I want is CX300 and not something that similar to it !

He should keep his promise and refund us because this is not genuine CX300.

Wish to hear more from other buyers.
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i not sure about how true the unit is. i once heard CX300 of scottiebabies. it sounds all right... and it's real i think. the sound is good...
and scottiebabies also i think bought from him..
first batch also i think.
what i suspect is, there are some real CX300 sold by him earlier. but until lately he got all fake stock...
the CX300 scottiebaby got from him is better than m ep630 oh... if fake one also can reach that quality.. i really pening liao..
but i do hope not all he sell is fake lah..
hopefully.
and anyone try to dig him out???



Editted : sorry i not sure scottiebaby get it from him..
so .. i not sure..
but according to bro sunauto. it's fake..
QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 18 2007, 06:06 PM)
I managed to compare the CX300 in the retail pack from machines at Midvalley Megamall 2 days ago as I was in KL and yeah, sad to say, I think our CX300 is just a high quality replica, I get what jacky is trying to tell us but nope, I didn't buy the CX300 retail pack from them, if I need another pair, I'll rather get Shure instead.

Well, Jenssen, you better be replying back here soon, I'm not sure who is at fault but if your supplier told you that they're genuine, you can ask your supplier to give you a full refund, we want you to refund our money back or give us the details of your supplier. Sorry, no Mr. Nice guy here because you have mentioned full refund if fake in your sales thread so there's no excuse to keep quiet and disappear.
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post Mar 18 2007, 07:40 PM

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Wow.. If this is true then I really going to faint down
Btw, I just not good enough to test my unit whether it is genuine or fake one.
Any pro at wangsa maju area mind to help me check it?

Edited

Don't feels that this is important anyway, now hope Jenssen can give some explanation

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post Mar 19 2007, 04:59 PM

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Apparently, Jenssen refused to settle this issue peacefully, it's clearly a fake and he is avoiding his promise to refund if it's a fake.
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i thought someone is goin to report to polis bout tis affair ?? if not mistaken jacky said wanna report to polis or something.
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I guess jacky should have reported to the police by not but I haven't heard from him yet so I guess I'll just assume that he already did that by now. Now Jenssen refused to say anything, we can only assume that he's aware that his Sennheiser is a fake.

QUOTE(vandennis @ Mar 19 2007, 10:26 PM)
i thought someone is goin to report to polis bout tis affair ?? if not mistaken jacky said wanna report to polis or something.
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Before he shows up and explain everything...we can't straight jump to the conclusion.
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post Mar 20 2007, 03:59 AM

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Well, he has not mentioned a single word for more than a week but he is still online here. So, I believe he's trying to avoid a direct confrontation with the respective buyers.
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For a week didn't online? check his details again he just online "Today, 02:59 PM"... I think TE should award him a DISPUTE tag or black listed for not being responsive due to this matter
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Yeah, I noticed that. He onlined today, probably wanting to know what we're up to. He probably thought that the law won't catch up with him but he is wrong, I've spoke to some KPDN officers, it's a big offence to sell fakes products online, not only for softwares, even earphones as well. Perhaps someone can go to their ministry in KL to lodge an official complaint and I'm sure that they will contact the mods here for Jenssen's IP address and other details that they can find from their backend log files.

I guess we don't want to make the matter big, full refund, case close, that's all.
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I guess before you guys busting out this issue to the dispute..why not do a normal COD transaction with him and confront him then and there.I would do that if i were you.If you start this thread...obviously he will run away.

Just my thoughts anyway.....
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Jenssen is using another User ID, Asparagine to log in, check the screenshots below, both accounts were logged in at the same time and both also selling Sennheiser CX300. Jenssen, I guess you should explain something now, no point blaming your supplier for this and that, you were aware that they were fakes from the very beginning. Can't believe you'll do such a thing. I believe KPDN will be very interested to know about your illegal activities here. You better give us a full refund and we'll just forget about it. vmad.gif

P/S: Mods, can you ban future accounts from this person if he decided to register another account. I believe he has multiple accounts under his own IP address. For unsuspecting buyers, do no buy any CX300 from here unless it comes with a retail packing and a Sennheiser international warranty card. Alternatively, you can get them from machines or Mediaplex at Midvalley. We need to stop this con person to target on other new victims.

Avoid transferring funds to the following account below, please take note of this. Thanks!

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QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ Mar 21 2007, 09:17 AM)
I guess before you guys busting out this issue to the dispute..why not do a normal COD transaction with him and confront him then and there.I would do that if i were you.If you start this thread...obviously he will run away.

Just my thoughts anyway.....
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Would he take the risk to show himself in public anymore due to fact that he have cheated? I don't think so... just let the police force to handle the situation..

QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 21 2007, 02:50 PM)
Jenssen is using another User ID, Asparagine to log in, check the screenshots below, both accounts were logged in at the same time and both also selling Sennheiser CX300. Jenssen, I guess you should explain something now, no point blaming your supplier for this and that, you were aware that they were fakes from the very beginning. Can't believe you'll do such a thing. I believe KPDN will be very interested to know about your illegal activities here. You better give us a full refund and we'll just forget about it.  vmad.gif

P/S: Mods, can you ban future accounts from this person if he decided to register another account. I believe he has multiple accounts under his own IP address. For unsuspecting buyers, do no buy any CX300 from here unless it comes with a retail packing and a Sennheiser international warranty card. Alternatively, you can get them from machines or Mediaplex at Midvalley. We need to stop this con person to target on other new victims.

Avoid transferring funds to the following account below, please take note of this. Thanks!

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I do believe that MOD have traced the similiar IP address that he is using to connect to the internet... thus if he is using a static ISP account, MOD can ban his IP forever... Thats my opinion....

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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Mar 21 2007, 07:46 PM)
Would he take the risk to show himself in public anymore due to fact that he have cheated? I don't think so... just let the police force to handle the situation..
I do believe that MOD have traced the similiar IP address that he is using to connect to the internet... thus if he is using a static ISP account, MOD can ban his IP forever... Thats my opinion....
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It should be a dynamic IP, a static one is normally for corporate accounts but since he doesn't wanna come clean, we'll assume that he is a conman.
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 21 2007, 07:52 PM)
It should be a dynamic IP, a static one is normally for corporate accounts but since he doesn't wanna come clean, we'll assume that he is a conman.
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If dynamic, everytime he disconnect and reconnect again. His IP would be different and it would hard to track him down....
Anyway, TS lodge police report already?
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I have PM-ed to TS, either lodge police report or lodge a complaint with KPDN. If not, write to Sennheiser USA / Singapore and inform them of Jenssen's illegal activity here. We already have his house address so there's no way he can run. It's not that we're not giving him a chance to explain, he totally ignored everybody and just kept quiet even though he did online yesterday. If he give us a full refund, we'll just close one eye and pretend nothing happened, simple as that.

QUOTE(Doomsday @ Mar 21 2007, 08:06 PM)
If dynamic, everytime he disconnect and reconnect again. His IP would be different and it would hard to track him down....
Anyway, TS lodge police report already?
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Well, all we can do is wait that fella to show up and explain the situation (probably won't).... Even I didn't bought anything from him, but I can feel how it's like being cheated after found out that the item bought was a non-genuine...
Anyway, we will see the progress~
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just do it. that guy's too idiotic to be saved. i guess he knew it was fake, and he had planned it all along. coz why's he logging in as 2 users? 1 user is to sell at slightly higher price, so that people will think, ohh this is original. then 2nd account sell cheap a bit, or something like that, to imply that its a fake.


if he knew it was a fake, then the only reason why he said "can refund if found to be fake" is because he will run away as soon as people start to investigate . if he knew it was fake and still made that statement, then he's a dumbass who either thinks the forummers are dumb, or he likes to waste time doing deals and refunding people.
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I was wondering whether the friendster profile below belongs to Jenssen? Wasted got no picture lah but at least got a picture of his friend. Hahaha. Show that to the police, if the police can find his friend, definitely can find Jenssen or maybe, Jenssen is Soh Peng Kai, Asparagine is Victor. Partners in crime? hmm.gif

http://www.friendster.com/user.php?uid=6180502


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man this fella is going to get some beating if we were to see him on the streets...the hell he's ignoring everybody here n treat us like idiots...let KPDN do the job n just put him behind the bars...
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 22 2007, 07:52 PM)
I was wondering whether the friendster profile below belongs to Jenssen? Wasted got no picture lah but at least got a picture of his friend. Hahaha. Show that to the police, if the police can find his friend, definitely can find Jenssen or maybe, Jenssen is Soh Peng Kai, Asparagine is Victor. Partners in crime?  hmm.gif

http://www.friendster.com/user.php?uid=6180502
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opz.. my friendster acc seems to have some connection with this acc

my acc -xxx2- xxx3- Victor

maybe can msg xxx3 about the bad things about this person?




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guys i think better use pm fucntion if u discover something.. coz beware he's browsing this forum.. let's sayu have some proof, he'll try to find a way to erase it.or u copy the proof first before reveal it here. just my suggestion, peace..
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where's the report ?
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I think you better PM Jacky directly to get the latest updates. You might be too late to trace the Jenssen, he probably has fled elsewhere or registered another account. We wouldn't know.

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where's the report ?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=7474777

I have warn everyone before the bulk start yet no one take action ,anyway , I believe ur should have his house add or phone no. calling him is a good idea and maybe ask him for partial refund another good idea as well.

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have u all checked the friendster? probably he is there... with the same name... he seem so obses with naruto... hurm....
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