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post Mar 10 2017, 05:31 PM


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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 10 2017, 08:13 AM)
Great! Wengherng, are you going to put updated crypto currencies information in the first post? If not, I can help later on if free. Can post in this 2nd post and delete later on after you copied to first post. Of course, contribution from everybody would make the information more complete. smile.gif

Anyway, into the journey of exciting crytocurrencies, I just discovered that I could lend my available coins in Poloniex. I mean, my coins are just sitting there doing nothing. Apparently, different currencies have different rates according to demand. Of all the ones I have, DASH has a lending rate of 0.08% over 2 days (as of last night). I'm not too sure how it works but if I were to calculate the effective rate, it would be 14% per annum!

Of course, this is provided that I can lend every 2 days (can specify how long) and the rates are stable.  The thing is, I just quoted a lower rate and it was snapped up within minutes! I tried lending ETH and it was also snapped up. ETH howeve had much lower lending rate, something like 0.025% over 2 days. And the lending can auto-renew without us offering the loan every other day.

I did ask the moderator whether there was any risk in lending. They said minimal risk as they have safeguards to protect the lender. I think definitely there are risk especially if the borrower bought coins that later on crashed but I also think it is minimal.

Anyway, will see how it goes. Instead of just keeping the altcoins in exchanges (because no hardware wallet!), might as well grow some money!!! biggrin.gif

Note : Now I regret not getting more DASH. It shot up last night!!!
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I do hope you already placed your first order for a hardware wallet. Can't go wrong with Trezor and Ledger Nano S.

Don't lend out too much yeah, exchange can always encounter black swans and you could be in deep trouble.

Also, between you and me. The founder himself already drop massive hint on imminent ETH price spike.

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After Metropolis, the Casper transition will start fairly soon, and once complete inflation will be much lower.


Judging from the March 3rd core developer meeting, we know two crucial thing, first thing is Metropolis fork is targeted for end of June.

Second bombshell is this, they are going for hybrid POW/POS implementation first and gradually transition to full POS within a year.

You see that DASH vertical price chart? That's coming for ETH. In 2017 no less.

No matter what's the price of ETH after the ETF, your main goal is to stack more and HODL all the way.

The list of supporting fundamentals are simply too solid to ignore.

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post Mar 10 2017, 10:00 PM


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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 10 2017, 09:05 PM)
Already ordered Trezor on Day 1 of my cryptocurrency journey. Backorder and they haven't sent mine yet!  cry.gif

I bought it because of bitcoins without knowing about altcoins. Checking back, Trezor only support these coins : Bitcoin, Litecoin, Namecoin, Dogecoin, Dash and Testnet. No ethereum support.  bye.gif Anyway, happy that it supports Dash. Maybe I should just buy all the coins that Trezor supports.  biggrin.gif

Ok, at least I now know POW/POS means proof-of-work and proof-of-stake although I don't know what they actually mean. Google later......  bruce.gif

I'm convinced! Have been loading up on ETH slowly while awaiting SEC decision. Frankly speaking, I actually hope that the first ETF would not be approved, leading to a fall in bitcoin/altcoins prices so that I can buy in more. As in my original intent, I was aiming for the 2nd ETF. Man, this wait for SEC decision is torturing!!!! The only thing I can't figure out is why would SEC wait until the last minute to reject it? Makes no sense.......
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It does support ETH.

https://blog.trezor.io/trezor-integration-w...2e08#.p5gdc0jiq
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post Mar 11 2017, 06:58 AM


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QUOTE(wengherng @ Mar 10 2017, 11:20 PM)
What would you recommend as a decent, secure online wallet for ETH, assuming that I do not want to buy a hardware wallet at the moment?
Mine does not support ETH.
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You can create a paper wallet with MEW

Or create a multisig wallet contract with the Ethereum wallet

But must make sure your PC got no keylogger and spyware.

You need to safeguard both wallet passwords and the keystore file itself.
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post Mar 11 2017, 07:46 AM


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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 11 2017, 07:23 AM)
I guess the difficulties of storing these coins without a proper hardware wallet would deter some from venturing into crytocurrencies. Maybe more adoption when the tech matures more and there are more hardware wallets that supports multi currencies.

And so it has come to pass, BTC ETF was not approved by SEC. And ETH doing well!!!! thumbup.gif

From my reading, target price for BTC now predicted to drop to around USD 850 - 900. I probably will start accumulating again when it falls below 1k.
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It's going to be interesting to see how ENS perform on pi day.

There are over 1.1 billion websites today, assuming they only bid 1 ETH each, it won't be enough to even cover 10% at current supply.

This could be 100 times the size of DAO in a single smart contract.

Stay tuned.

Edit: ETH/BTC is up 16%, ETH/USD is up 8%

If this carries on towards raiden we'll have officially flipped for good.

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post Mar 11 2017, 01:45 PM


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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 11 2017, 12:33 PM)
Yeah, exciting times although I don't understand the ENS either!  biggrin.gif Just hope to buy ETH and see it go to the moon.  thumbup.gif

BTC is not dropping as much as I expected. Will see how it goes today, maybe dump my USDT into ETH while waiting for BTC to drop more.

Now my main concern is security. I searched around and coinbase BTC & ETH wallet seems promising. Do you have any experience with this wallet?

Seriously, I need to get more DASH on Poloniex. The lending rate is currently 0.1378% every 2 days!!!!  blink.gif
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ENS basically let you share your

0xC834bF2d475a25.....dg4w contract/wallet addresses

by letting you bid on something like "WooTz.eth" instead

The ETH gets locked into the smart contract until a new challenger appears, which you'll need to defend with a higher bid.

I only use Coinbase wallet to buy/sell, hardware wallet all the way.

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post Mar 12 2017, 02:10 AM


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Dash has gone completely bananas.

And I'm thinking ETH will be next to moon.
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post Mar 12 2017, 02:35 AM


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QUOTE(archangel22 @ Mar 12 2017, 02:24 AM)
Maybe. Who knows. Until smart-contract for Bitcoin RSK come in play http://www.rsk.co then I'll decide to buy ETH or not. biggrin.gif
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You're welcome to buy at $100 bro, good luck with anything past 1MB. I mean it.
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post Mar 12 2017, 10:26 AM


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QUOTE(archangel22 @ Mar 12 2017, 03:28 AM)
1MB you mean the scalability issue in btc?

Bitcoin is no longer just about technicalities (where eth and other altcoins are trying to solve). It touches real life use case of socials, economics, politics and even religion.

I was worried abt the scaling debate, but i become less and less care abt it. One thing that make btc special is the timing. Btc is proving itself as store of value during global crisis and political issues while eth is busy with all these forks.

I dont think i have luck in any get rich quick scheme, so i dont care how much price of eth later. Imo, if i ever gonna buy ETH, it must be able to explain itself in nontechnical, proof itself as store of value, and real use case. If eth ever come close to btc parity, i'll simply compare and switch.

And im not buying eth in $$ or any form of fiat.
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You really should be worried about Bitcoin technicalities, you have real business people like Circle and mining pool who's switching from BTC payments to ETH. Your use case is evaporating the longer the stalemate goes. Now battle for ETH ATH is within reach, and the consensus is 3-5x of current price to be fair value. By the time you switch, you'll be buying at a much higher prices.

QUOTE(effectz @ Mar 12 2017, 10:09 AM)
I mine ether with genesis mining
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Genesis mining telan my 0.9 BTC a year ago, I'm still pissed.
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post Mar 13 2017, 08:52 AM


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QUOTE(effectz @ Mar 12 2017, 11:08 PM)
That's big amount. Tell us more.
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I was a bitcoiner back in the late 2015.

I donated hashpower to support Bitcoin Classic, not only that they FFK on their promise, they returned next to nothing on my investment.

Never again.

$24 ETH on Monday is a good start, DASH moon pumping is good, free media publicity and eventual overflow into other crypto. Still not touching it though.
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post Mar 13 2017, 10:02 AM


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QUOTE(cheefai7 @ Mar 13 2017, 09:53 AM)
Being reading up about the P2P lending future and the importance of cryptocurrencies comes into play. To start the game here in M'sia is to get a physical wallet, buy some bitcoins at remitano or localbitcoins, then transfer to poloniex to unlock for other cryto trading. Buy/Sell the currency like forex. This is the gameplay?
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This isn't a game, it's a revolution.

The red pill of the digital economy.

Have a read before you purchase any crypto.

“The Flippening” & How I Learned to Stop Loving Bitcoin

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Choose wisely and only invest in what you're comfortable of losing
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post Mar 13 2017, 11:45 AM


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0.02 ETH/BTC and $25 ETH/USD on Coinbase

Shit's going exponential like DASH
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QUOTE(archangel22 @ Mar 13 2017, 11:47 AM)
You have a personal grudge on bitcoin and then speak language of charlatans and FUDs.
Really man, you sound like just another SJWs in cryptoworld. Driven by hatred.

Bitcoin and eth different functions. Bitcoin is better at being a currency, and eth is (likely) to be better at smart contract which no one knows for sure yet. Both are based on the same concept of blockchain.

Eth introduce itself as smartcontract which is just another use case of blockchain. The next step to see this is actually why the devs did not apply the smart contract on top of bitcoin. Obviously bitcoin market is big, lots of tests and and trials can be done to see what works and what not.

Why i see that you speak charlatans? Bcse you speak things too technicals, things that has no direct impact to general public. Eth and alts will always be in the shadow of bitcoin, not on functionality, but brand name.

Indeed, invest at your own risk. But in a simple language Bitcoin=money, Ethereum=token for smartcontract application.

Public just begin to know cryptocurrency and youre asking them to directly learn about IoT technicals. Like in the 80s we found internet and you expect people to understand how facebook/smartphone works directly?

People of course will look into smartcontract but youre Eth is up for a queue. Once people understand digital money with bitcoin then youre up next. The application will be adopted quickly but Eth is also up for a competition with other altcoins as well as next development of bitcoin use case.

Actually you maybe correct. There may be no solution to blocksizedebate on bitcoin itself. The solution might actually alrdy here. Its not that bitcoin has no hardfork yet, bitcoin has alrdy hardforked for more than 600times. Result of hardfork? Eth and altcoins. smile.gif

For firsttimers this is the similar to age of discovery, altcoins are just like minerals and people like you trying to convince other that your stone/metal is more valuable than others. Whereby in other place people alrdy discovered 1 precious metal with proven usability for 8 yrs. Its just my opinion though, im no technical person. biggrin.gif
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If there's something better than Ethereum, I'd switch ship just like buying a new smartphone. That's just how it is.

You seem to love your Nokia 3310 a little too much. I'll always buy the better phone when it reaches the market.

I'll see you at $100 ETH then.
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QUOTE(wengherng @ Mar 13 2017, 12:51 PM)
Easy there mate.
I know it's none of my business, but you're starting to sound just a little too euphoric.
The current so-called bull run started around December 2016 and although showing no signs of stopping yet, you should be very cautious still.
As you said, the market is getting crazy and there's really no fundamentals to support this kind of bull run for long.
I'm not fully convinced about the flippening (not to say it won't happen, of course, just that I have my reservations).
But in any case, I am quite optimistic that both BTC and ETH have their respective roles to play, and that I envision a future where both co-exist.
Just like how I think that many of the cryptocurrencies today will still be in existence for quite some time, although they do not seem to have any actual use at all.
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Well, it's $27 now. There's euphoria, then there's fiat money rushing in, especially the Koreans, they're leading the rise ever since EEA.

Flippening has yet to occur, Bitcoin dominance still staying at above 80%


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QUOTE(effectz @ Mar 13 2017, 01:25 PM)
What did they promise?
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To mine 2MB blocks, thanks to the HK agreement, I began looking elsewhere and stumbled across the Ethereum subreddit. The rest is history


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post Mar 13 2017, 11:03 PM


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Just breached $30

Let's see if this holds over a week

ATH on 24hrs volume too, seeing all those fiat volume is glorious. Mini FOMO is occurring as we type here.

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post Mar 15 2017, 07:10 AM


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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 15 2017, 05:56 AM)
Haha. Euphoria and heart attacks should be common for
Cryptocurrencies. Hopefully more of the former.

On further news, my Dash is officially more than 100% gain. Not happy because I don't have 500,000 Dashes. sad.gif

Look up "The dollar vigilante". Jeff Berwick is an anarcocapitalist (I think) who recommended bitcoin when it was 3 dollars and recently Dash at 17 dollars. I never did paid subscription because his recommendations are mainly US-based investments which I have no access too. However, with cryptocurrencies, I don't have such limitations. Wished I had subscribed earlier to get early predictions news on dash.  I'm going to subscribe for 3 months and see how beneficial it is. Of course, bear in mind it is only my 0.00002 BTC opinion. wink.gif
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Dash is screaming red flag, its fundamentals simply doesn't warrant such a sharp gain. I hope you're prepared for an eventual mega dump.

Also Jeff Berwick is a snake oil salesman, I subbed it myself and thankfully stopped within 3 months, however due to their junk system I still receive their newsletter for free till this day, if you want I can happily share it to you.

Free TDV newsletter

The buggers only covered the DAO implosion and stopped ever since, no mention of EEA, upcoming protocol improvements and the recent rise, only Amanda B. Johnson with her bags of DASH.

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post Mar 15 2017, 08:22 AM


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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 15 2017, 07:58 AM)
Thx for the warning. Yeah, I noticed the "salesman" part but he was always recommending on bitcoins and when I found out about him, BTC was USD 300+ and he was still recommending it. I also received his free newsletters. Will try it out and see how it goes. I'm only in because of cryptocurrencies which so far as only been bitcoin and Dash. The rest of the recommendations are useless to me.

Ya, Dash is getting crazy. Many in Poloniex trollbox keeps on saying Dash has no fundamentals and will crash anytime. However, it just keeps on going up and up. As I have suspected, in cryptos, fundamentals and reasons goes out the back door.....

Any news on the ENS? Cannot get anything from google.

Edit : Oh ok, looks like some bugs so I guess the roll-out is postponed : https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/...an_win_with_an/
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No the link isn't the usual free stuff he share, it's the US$50 quarterly subs. I've received the "subscription has expired" email twice now, yet the free stuffs continue to come.

When ETH begin mooning I'm sure he'll mention that he already recommend buying at very low price ages ago.

ENS had two bugs after deployment, really hope EEA can lend their hand with such tests. We can't afford such error with Casper when it goes live.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 15 2017, 08:51 AM)
Oh, I see. Already subscribed for 3 months.  sweat.gif Nothing relevant for me at the moment. As suspected, it is mainly US-based stocks. Going to join the FB group. Oh well, will see whether the USD 50 spent will be worthwhile or not.

I see. So they still have to sort out more bugs. Hope it kicks off soon. I'm just wondering whether I want to bid for some names?  innocent.gif

On other news, Trezor has started processing all the backorders for Trezor hard wallet. Received an apology email together with a small free gift (to come with the wallet) and a $30 discount voucher once their Trezor shop is opened.  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Their private FB group is an echo chamber. Especially Bill Kline, nonstop "buy DASH DASH DASH masternodes" when I was there.

Try /r/ethtrader instead, we are a friendly bunch and discuss everything crypto, been seeing a surge of bitcoiners asking elementary questions these past week.

Very encouraging sight.

Bull flag forming on the ETH/BTC ratio, interesting times ahead
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 15 2017, 10:03 AM)
Oh, so bad? I didn't think it was so bad but sort of expected it as cryptocurrencies are not their main recommendation.

Cool. Already bookmarked. Man, my bookmarks are overflowing with cryptocurrency links! I'm hesitant to get more ETH after the price hike but will probably do so these few days.....
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You got a few hours at most, check this out.

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post Mar 15 2017, 01:34 PM


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QUOTE(wengherng @ Mar 15 2017, 11:21 AM)
I agree, DASH has nothing to sustain the current gains except hype, euphoria and FOMO.
At the end of the day, it's all about the greed.
That said, however, I do have a little bit of DASH on my portfolio, which I use for "crypto-gambling" (no fundamentals involved, just buy at the start of a crowd-frenzy and sell at a high).
I think there will be a sharp correction for DASH very soon, but I do believe that the price will break the psychological USD 100 barrier before that happens.

These few weeks have been absolutely bananas.
It's incredible how even the most obscure altcoins are seeing unbelievable pump/dump frenzies that see more than 300% gains in 24 hours (e.g.Namecoin).
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The history of DASH

Genting highlands seemed like a walk in the park compared to current DASH holders. Each passing day without a crash is only going to snowball into a bigger one.

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