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post Mar 16 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 16 2017, 08:08 AM)
A few reasons. My dash in lending account and being loan out so I can't touch it. Furthermore, from my one month experience in cryptos, the spikes and drops can be dramatic before recovering. Due to lower volume (relative), major players can just come in, shake off all the stops, then push it higher. In poloniex, also noted traders complaining that their stop limits don't work sometimes. Lastly, I never use stop limits before so have to learn first biggrin.gif
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Alright, I've concluded that DASH is getting a bit too high for my poor heart to take, and have decided to cash out my profits. rclxms.gif
To be honest, I have a feeling that it's still got a bit of steam left in it to push it higher still, but I'm starting to get uncomfortable now. And my rule is if any investment reaches a point where I can't sleep and keep worrying about it, then it's time to sell it.
Time to move on to others! wink.gif

QUOTE(WooTz @ Mar 16 2017, 09:57 AM)
Another bull flag forming, I need to take a break from all this.

For context, last Sunday I was shocked we hit $23 with the banks closed. And here we are.
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Over USD 38 now. (It actually went up by USD 1 as I was typing this post...!)
Very happy with my paper profits (not selling though) although I would have preferred that it went up steadily and gradually instead.
This one's definitely a keeper.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 16 2017, 10:30 AM)
Dizzy from all the profits?tongue.gif

Yeah, another beauty of cryptos where you don't have to wait until Monday or the next working day after public holiday.

Looks like I have to change my strategy a bit. I enter cryptos for Bitcoins and its prospect due to ETF. However, ETF rejection based on the very nature of bitcoin makes it more difficult for any future ETFs to be approved. I was targeting March 30 ETF but it looks like it will Also be rejected. I think many people realize this. Of course, as
Wengherng said, other ETFs are also in the process in other countries. Furthermore, I was hoping for a dramatic drop in BTC prices which never happened. Well, a flash drop did happen but not what I wanted. It looks like BTC will probably trade around current prices unless there is another catalyst to push it up. With the problems of BTC coming up I.e core, classic, unlimited, the near-term prospects is not encouraging.

With this in mind, I'm will be channeling more towards other altcoins. Probably nibble at ETH if it still bullrun. Now which coin will come after ETH, that's the million dollar question. Literally!!!!
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Because the rejection is already expected, the public has already priced in the rejection of the ETFs into the BTC prices, so that's why you won't see huge crashes......I truly believe we have reached a point where regulatory decisions no longer affect cryptocurrencies as before.
As we saw yesterday, not even a mass shutdown of nodes due to a code attack can affect the BTC price.
Probably the only real threat that can cause a large scale global crash in BTC is a massive hack and theft of some big exchange, but even then, you'd see the prices surge back in days, or at most a few weeks.
ETH is going up a bit too fast for my comfort, so I'll just keep my current stash there and will not buy in more until we see a correction.
Still contemplating what to do with the USDT in my account after cashing out on DASH.
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post Mar 16 2017, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(untouchable @ Mar 16 2017, 11:54 AM)
Hi Guys,

Im new to cryptocurrency and I have purchased a ledger nano S.

I would like to know if I still need an online wallet to store my cryptocurrencies first and then only transfer it to the hardware wallet.

If I do not, then how do I use the ledger nano S with my android smart phone?

If not with my android phone? Do i need an app for this? If so, what app is the best and also are there any charges?

I mainly want to invest in altcoins now via poloniex however I would appreciate some guidance on how to go about this

Thanks in advance!
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If you're new to cryptocurrencies and hardware wallets, it is strongly advised that you take some time to read up and familiarise yourself on how to transfer your cryptocurrency to your hardware wallet.
This is extremely important, because all transfers are non-reversible.
If you made a mistake and sent your coins to the wrong address, then your coins are lost forever.
There are plenty of online tutorials showing you how to do this, especially on Youtube, just search for "Ledger Nano S reviews and tutorials".
If you are using Poloniex, then you don't need a separate online wallet, you can transfer directly from Poloniex to your hardware wallet, and vice versa.
Ledger has its own app, which you can download for both iOS and Android. Both are free.

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post Mar 16 2017, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 16 2017, 02:11 PM)
Nice! Can only get this in cryptoland. And this is probably just the beginning!!!!
Good timing. Dash dropped after you sold your substantial amount biggrin.gif

Agreed. As we have discussed before, BTC is here to stay. However, my hope of a 4 to 5 digit percentage gain looks a bit out of reach. As compared to altcoins that probably has a higher potential for such gains. In addition, with BTC price sky high, impossible to get even 50 coins!!! (Happily looking at my doge 500,000 coins. biggrin.gif)

Use USDT to buy altcoins!!!!
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Number of coins is not important......most important is how much they are worth! biggrin.gif
Not sure why......the BTC price today on Poloniex is lower than many other exchanges. Damn.

QUOTE(WooTz @ Mar 16 2017, 02:16 PM)
I always try to temper my euphoria by only making conservative estimates. 1.5% return if all rushing to Stake, which would likely be the case, average can expect 3-5%. That means I can expect lower ETH price before I'm financially independent.

Not just EEA now, Japan is also going all out with blockchain. If you read anything related with Consensys, it's all about Ethereum.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/japanese-bl...wareness-banks/


Only thing left is China adopting it and adding ETH on all exchanges, then the rest of the planet will follow.
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I didn't know that China has not adopted ETH on its exchanges?
You mean that the people in China have no access to buy ETH?

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post Mar 16 2017, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Mar 16 2017, 04:12 PM)
So far I'm only seeing Yunbi with $10,000,000 volume.

And that's it, no okcoin, no BTCC, no Huobi

Let's see how long can they remain stubborn as their competitor making bank on a daily basis.
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Hmmm...... hmm.gif
It's only a matter of time before they open up, and when they do, it will open up another floodgate of capital influx to the cryptoworld.

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post Mar 16 2017, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 16 2017, 08:16 PM)
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Transfer to other exchange? I'm actually thinking of whether to use another exchange and not depend solely on Poloniex. Anybody uses any other exchange?  hmm.gif
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Have to check them out later.
So far I am only using Poloniex for exchanging between various cryptocurrencies.

QUOTE(mois @ Mar 16 2017, 11:02 PM)
Now still consider late to join ka?
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It's never too late to start investing in any investment vehicle.
Just depends on your expectations and risk appetite.

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post Mar 17 2017, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Mar 17 2017, 11:50 AM)
Jeff Garzik, the Bitcoin developer is now part of EEA.

If this isn't evidence of permanent flipping I don't know what is.

Expect price parity with ETH and BTC within a month from now.

I'm done tracking the price, I need to write up my resignation letter now.
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QUOTE(WooTz @ Mar 17 2017, 12:28 PM)
Yeah, I'll take a few months vacation with my other funds, then once Casper kicks in I'll be all set.
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Damn......wish I could say that as well.
Oh well......good for you!
I still have a very long way to go.
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post Mar 17 2017, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 17 2017, 03:06 PM)
ETH at USD 50. Last time I hated BTC. Now I hate ETH!!!! Damn you! biggrin.gif

Quick, tell me which one is the next coin? Monero?!!??
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I have about 10% of total cryptocurrency investment in Monero.
Right now, I think it's about 60% BTC, 30% ETH and 10% XMR.
Pretty happy with the performance so far.

ETH is going up a little too fast, in my opinion.
The fundamentals are definitely there......just the speed is too fast and I predict there would be a correction soon, so probably will not buy more at the moment.
BTC is looking very cheap at the moment......would have loved to get some more, but unfortunately I'm all out of cash now.

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post Mar 17 2017, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(untouchable @ Mar 17 2017, 04:37 PM)
Just want to ask is Poloniex trading 24/7? or do they have closing time?
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All day, every day.


QUOTE(-CoupeFanatic- @ Mar 17 2017, 05:07 PM)
I hope none of you set your stop loss and sold.

That dump is just to shake off weak hands, ETH is back up 0.04 now
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ETH and BTC are the only 2 cryptos that I do not set sell-limits.
I daresay that ETH will hit USD 32-35 before turning around.
Sadly, I think those days are gone when I could buy it at below USD 17.

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post Mar 18 2017, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Mar 17 2017, 05:30 PM)
All day, every day.
ETH and BTC are the only 2 cryptos that I do not set sell-limits.
I daresay that ETH will hit USD 32-35 before turning around.
Sadly, I think those days are gone when I could buy it at below USD 17.
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So...ETH did drop to USD 32.50 at one point in the evening......damn it, sometimes I hate it when I'm right, especially when I have no more money to buy at the dips.
And now it's nearly back to USD 46.
The speed of all this madness is making me dizzy.


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post Mar 19 2017, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Mar 18 2017, 07:35 AM)
The madness will accelerate once the BTC fork approaches, the statements from exchanges made me feel rich already.

There's going to be prolonged conflict even after the fork, and ETH will be waiting.

If the flippening guarantees $70-80, what about the ETH upgrades? Better calm myself down.
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What's the actual definition of the flippening?
Is it simply when ETH's market capitalisation overtakes BTC's?


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post Mar 19 2017, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Mar 19 2017, 06:52 AM)
Yes, that would change everything

Edit: the crazy guy who short DASH earlier gets liquidated.

You know the saying, the markets can remain bananas longer than you can remain solvent.

DASH Short got rekt
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Poor fellow.
But then again, he could be one of those early adopters who have 12000 BTC in his account, so losing 120 BTC might mean nothing to him.
Who knows.
By the way, why do you say the flippening guarantees 70-80? Is there a source for this?

QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 19 2017, 08:14 AM)
High risk high return. He should know the risk. Pity him though.

Anyway, ETH just don't want to be my friend. Was waiting for my transfer BTC from my airbitz wallet to Poloniex. In a matter of minutes, ETH shot up USD 5  vmad.gif  mad.gif  bangwall.gif

Localbitcoins and remitano stubbornly doesn't want to go below RM5k/btc.  sweat.gif

Updates :Bitcoin emergency hard fork contigency plan : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1831360.40

Looks like there's going to be BTC and BTU...... shakehead.gif
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I honestly don't care too much about which side wins.
Just as long as there is a final outcome and just get the hell on with it.
The current stalemate situation is not helping anyone.
Congratulations if you still have Dash......it seems that it just won't give up.
Although...I'm still glad I cashed out of it already.

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post Mar 20 2017, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 19 2017, 06:00 PM)
Yeah, they better sort it out soon. Not good for BTC.

Anyway, BTC trend showing there's not much hope for the 2nd ETF? Hope to get some BTC at lower prices tonight.
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Yes, BTC is looking really cheap now.
Unfortunately, it's another one and a half weeks to pay day, so no more buying for me...... sad.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 20 2017, 03:42 PM)
I saw it! tongue.gif
Ermmm... don't understand. Why would linking to BTC be bad? Even if BTC dropped to USD 100, can still convert to BTC then to MYR. The problem is MYR can't be used to buy any altcoins!! For MYR to USD, also the hassle of conversion unless you have foreign currency account or earning USD.

Can you give an example of what coins you are talking about and how to go about acquiring those coins?
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When you add one additional link in between, you are introducing another variable in the equation.
True, you can easily convert your fiat currency to any altcoin via BTC, but you have to first consider the forex rate between MYR/USD, then consider the buy/sell spread between USD/BTC, and then another buy/sell spread between BTC/altcoin.
Which means you have already lost three times in the spread, even before you get your altcoins.
But, I suppose in Malaysia, your choices are severely limited.
Where I am now, I can deposit the local currency to a local exchange, and purchase ETH directly, so that's good, but still no other choice if I need to purchase other altcoins like XMR, etc.


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QUOTE(WooTz @ Mar 20 2017, 09:17 PM)
GDAX adds margin trading for BTC, ETH and LTC.

Nice!
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I wouldn't touch margin trading with a 10-foot pole.
But great for those who do.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 21 2017, 09:33 AM)
Occasionally can get good prices but not recently. I prefer localbitcoin as you can communicate with the seller first before transferring money.
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I've never used such peer to peer exchanges before, how does it work?
Do you have to transfer the money to the seller first before they transfer the coins to you?
Or does Localbitcoins function as an escrow company?

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QUOTE(1wildcat1 @ Mar 21 2017, 10:38 AM)
You initiate the trade, the seller will give you his details. Which then you will bank in the amount with a specific reference code that is provided. After that, you click payment paid and the seller would check and release the coins.

All coins will be in escrow.
Around early January to early Feb, LBC had coins at around 1-2% higher than market price... something changed and it's like 7-8% now which is ridiculous
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That's even higher than using XBit Asia or Luno. blink.gif
I think I'll just continue using the exchanges for my sales.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 21 2017, 04:34 PM)
The reason why altcoins are gaining : Bitcoin Falls to Lowest Share of Cryptocurrency Market, Altcoins Surge

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-fall...-altcoins-surge
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I believe that's only part of the equation.
One of the side effects of the ETF saga is that a lot of other people (previously non-crypto investors) have been exposed to this "new" hot investment vehicle, and as a result there is new capital inflow into the cryptocurrency industry as a whole, either to bitcoin or to other coins.
True that most people treat this solely as just an investment alternative, to gain quick profits, etc. but the fact remains that there is so much more exposure and spotlight on cryptocurrencies now that we can see that the industry will only get bigger and bigger in general, in terms of market capitalisation.


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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 21 2017, 06:17 PM)
I believe so too as I'm also one of the previously non-crypto investors who entered cryptocurrencies because of the ETFs and its predictions.

Yeah, it looks like more and more funds are coming in, which is good for those already vested in cryptos. Everyday see altcoins being pumped, so nice for those holding them. I lost count but I'm holding quite a lot of different coins too.

My feeling is that more funds will go into altcoins until BTC issues are sorted out. Once that happens, money will flow back to the winner and altcoins may take a slight hit. Good to do some trading then!!!

Update : My Trezor is finally on the way!!!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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I'm considering getting one myself.
Or a Ledger Nano S.
Need to keep my altcoins secure too.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 22 2017, 03:25 PM)
Nice! Now the inconvenience of transferring money over, emailing them the proof and waiting 2 business days. Inconvenient!
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I never had to wait for 2 business days.
Usually I transfer in the evening or at night, and receive an email the next morning, confirming that my account has been credited.
So far they have been very efficient.

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Mar 22 2017, 10:50 PM)
Good to hear that. I though I saw the info in their website. Probably "maximum" 2 working days.  biggrin.gif

Damn, I want to start writing a guide on cryptos but everyday my eyes are glued to Poloniex's blinking numbers, red bars and green bars.....  sweat.gif
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Unfortunately, the problem is that they don't work on weekends, so you can get any crediting on Saturdays or Sundays.
Which sucks if you are in a hurry to buy during a dip.


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