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TSayonan
post Mar 8 2017, 10:11 PM, updated 9y ago

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Can I connect my guitar amp directly to my phone so that my phone can record video with a clean sound. The amp is connected with a mic and an acoustic guitar.

If yes, how? Do I just connect aux cable from headphones port(amp) to phone?

If no, what other way?
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post Mar 8 2017, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(ayonan @ Mar 8 2017, 10:11 PM)
Can I connect my guitar amp directly to my phone so that my phone can record video with a clean sound. The amp is connected with a mic and an acoustic guitar.

If yes, how? Do I just connect aux cable from headphones port(amp) to phone?

If no, what other way?
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what type of phone u using right now.

i thought you need DAC ? no?
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post Mar 8 2017, 10:16 PM

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you meant through the headphone jack?

even using headphone, it didnt sound good...

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post Mar 8 2017, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(gotgiant @ Mar 8 2017, 10:12 PM)
what type of phone u using right now.

i thought you need DAC ? no?
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Iphone 6
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post Mar 8 2017, 10:52 PM

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post Mar 9 2017, 09:39 AM

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if ur amp has a line-out, then can.
better buy irig acoustic.

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post Mar 9 2017, 10:51 AM

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yes and both no, it depends on what you want to do with the recording and how you want to deal with it. most phones are fitted with terrible audio support and likewise most amps are also fitted with less terrible but bad audio.

first you need to identify the right 3.5mm jack, it must be a proper mic out designed for mics only. I REPEAT, IT MUST BE A PROPER LINE OUT DESIGNED FOR MICS ONLY. if you bodoh go put a 3.5 adapter into a 6 cab out at 8 ohms..........you can say bye bye to your amp la.

then you need a 3 ring 3.5mm male to 2/1 ring 3.5mm male, this is the hardest and most important part. cause the amps run on 2 or 1 ring (it should be 1, mono) and different phone units run their rings differently. if i remembered correctly iphones has a special arrangement with their rings, so erm ya.

the reason you headache is cause the amp input is mono and often tends to be the top most ring on the jack, while the phone mic in, is the 3 third ring on the jack.

because phones are not designed (liek other audio equipment) for an independent mic in slot, you will play a guessing game to see if the phone can or cannot accept your line in.

this applies throughout other audio devices, ive encountered 3 ring jacks that dont work with other 3 ring jacks. so had to angle a bit.

so you got that headache to sort out, the next headache is the line out values vs your line in values. typically phones have very low line in impedance, its designed to power small mics that have almost no preamps.

the same cant be said of amps, some amps may have higher line out values to power small speakers, or to go into dedicated line in channels.

so you gotta worry about it and match it.

considering the mess, its rather wiser to connect teh amp 3.5 (LINE OUT) into a computer mic in slot cause that will work.

OR use a mic



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post Mar 9 2017, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Mar 9 2017, 10:51 AM)
yes and both no, it depends on what you want to do with the recording and how you want to deal with it. most phones are fitted with terrible audio support and likewise most amps are also fitted with less terrible but bad audio.

first you need to identify the right 3.5mm jack, it must be a proper mic out designed for mics only. I REPEAT, IT MUST BE A PROPER LINE OUT DESIGNED FOR MICS ONLY. if you bodoh go put a 3.5 adapter into a 6 cab out at 8 ohms..........you can say bye bye to your amp la.

then you need a 3 ring 3.5mm male to 2/1 ring 3.5mm male, this is the hardest and most important part. cause the amps run on 2 or 1 ring (it should be 1, mono)  and different phone units run their rings differently. if i remembered correctly iphones has a special arrangement with their rings, so erm ya.

the reason you headache is cause the amp input is mono and often tends to be the top most ring on the jack, while the phone mic in, is the 3 third ring on the jack.

because phones are not designed (liek other audio equipment) for an independent mic in slot, you will play a guessing game to see if the phone can or cannot accept your line in.

this applies throughout other audio devices, ive encountered 3 ring jacks that dont work with other 3 ring jacks. so had to angle a bit.

so you got that headache to sort out, the next headache is the line out values vs your line in values. typically phones have very low line in impedance, its designed to power small mics that have almost no preamps.

the same cant be said of amps, some amps may have higher line out values to power small speakers, or to go into dedicated line in channels.

so you gotta worry about it and match it.

considering the mess, its rather wiser to connect teh amp 3.5 (LINE OUT) into a computer mic in slot cause that will work.

OR use a mic
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Whole day searching male to male 3.5mm 3 rings jack, nothing. Than I remember I got an audio interface. It's a Focusrite 2i2. Can I connect the monitoring port(headphone sign) to 3.5mm handphone port?
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post Mar 9 2017, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(ayonan @ Mar 9 2017, 05:51 PM)
Whole day searching male to male 3.5mm 3 rings jack, nothing. Than I remember I got an audio interface. It's a Focusrite 2i2. Can I connect the monitoring port(headphone sign) to 3.5mm handphone port?
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you'll get the same problem

the issue is not your audio equipment, the issue is the hand phone.

you dont seem to understand jacks and how they work, a jack has 1-4 ring types. (4th ring not included in the picture below)

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notice that the mic is the last ring? what you need to do is connect headphone out, which is hte first 2, to the last ring.

if it doesnt touch, it wont work. which is the problem because in the female jack the mono and stereo takes up the deepest part of that love tunnel, while the mic takes up the entry. so technically you can hang a mono cable to the entry la, but its not very reliable

since you have a focusrite and mic and all that stuff, why not just direct mic it up

the other option since you have an iterface is connect the line out of the interface to your iphone via usb, it may work but sometimes iphone no such driver and you get nothing. most of the time iphones are more forgiving than andorids on such drivers so its your best bet.

you can try a 3.5mm to a 3.5mm mono jack to your handphone la, they come cheap and you wish to god that jobs designed the phone female in to be able to get your mono male. chances are it wont work but hey its like a 20 bucks bet?

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TSayonan
post Mar 9 2017, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Mar 9 2017, 07:25 PM)
you'll get the same problem

the issue is not your audio equipment, the issue is the hand phone.

you dont seem to understand jacks and how they work, a jack has 1-4 ring types. (4th ring not included in the picture below)

user posted image

notice that the mic is the last ring? what you need to do is connect headphone out, which is hte first 2, to the last ring.

if it doesnt touch, it wont work. which is the problem because in the female jack the mono and stereo takes up the deepest part of that love tunnel, while the mic takes up the entry. so technically you can hang a mono cable to the entry la, but its not very reliable

since you have a focusrite and mic and all that stuff, why not just direct mic it up

the other option since you have an iterface is connect the line out of the interface to your iphone via usb, it may work but sometimes iphone no such driver and you get nothing. most of the time iphones are more forgiving than andorids on such drivers so its your best bet.

you can try a 3.5mm to a 3.5mm mono jack to your handphone la, they come cheap and you wish to god that jobs designed the phone female in to be able to get your mono male. chances are it wont work but hey its like a 20 bucks bet?
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Found a male to male 3 rings 3.5mm jack. Doesn't work. But a new problem arise.

Suddenly hear pop sound from amp. Now the amp got power but no sound. I'm using Cort AF30. I hope that pop sound is from fuse and I hope there is a fuse inside. Or else, matilanak.
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post Mar 10 2017, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(ayonan @ Mar 9 2017, 11:28 PM)
Found a male to male 3 rings 3.5mm jack. Doesn't work. But a new problem arise.

Suddenly hear pop sound from amp. Now the amp got power but no sound. I'm using Cort AF30. I hope that pop sound is from fuse and I hope there is a fuse inside. Or else, matilanak.
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owh wlel, you could try to pull it out a bit from the phone socket so the first ring will connect the entry of the phone

hoenstly tho, why go through all the trouble when you already have the right equipment for the job

hope nothing serious man
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post Mar 10 2017, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 9 2017, 09:39 AM)
better buy irig acoustic.
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