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post Mar 17 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 17 2017, 10:51 AM)
Go look for the book 'How to make money in stocks' by William O'Neal.

There's a chapter called 'When to sell ....' (hope I remember the chapter name correctly)

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OK will google that book.. brows.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 20 2017, 04:01 PM)
LOL!

You saying I got to show you my actual record before I start posting?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Agree with both thumbs up smile.gif
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post Mar 24 2017, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 24 2017, 11:05 AM)
gark

Ascending triangle breakout. whistling.gif
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Baru saw this... Good. smile.gif

I think Q report coming...

Or i salah faham... Hmmm

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post Mar 24 2017, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 24 2017, 07:30 PM)
Wait.. u baru see what?

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The last time the line was at 26.
Closed 27.

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Small jump only what.. this stock not so active one.

Announced good divvy tho...
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post Mar 27 2017, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 27 2017, 09:18 AM)
Small what?

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Today ok lah performance, ada oomph sikit laugh.gif

IMHO this stock still have ways to go, current PE, growth, DY, ROE does not justify the price.

Best way to gauge the stock is to look at Harta, which announce QR 1 month earlier, providing sneak peak into possible results. This is this counter's cheat sheet.

Why Harta? Because they use exactly the same raw materials and mostly export market. wink.gif

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post Mar 27 2017, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 27 2017, 11:04 AM)
LOL !!!

Never puas hati.

Whole day life want to check up on me. tongue.gif

Me do important meh?

Must show u me lepot card one ah?
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Hehehe I tell you all my counters mah.. tongue.gif


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post Mar 27 2017, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 27 2017, 11:23 AM)
Correct !

So using this very same methodology...
Since I told you nothing....
Therefor......
My performance is zero percent.

Correct? tongue.gif
That fake trade on Insas.
It's a cut for me at 91.
Don't like what I see.
Typical holding share movement.

See? Not good hor..........
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Cut at 91, still make 'paper' profit what.... laugh.gif
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post Mar 29 2017, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 29 2017, 09:21 AM)
gark

Small what again?

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( psst.... 2nd post hor.... if not for this stock.... I probably stay into the corner and play spiderman! laugh.gif )

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Oh... there might be a possibility of some pullback due to the SMALL jump it made .... 

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Looks like it reach new support level at 2.90... from the stock movement i see.. hmm.gif
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post Mar 29 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 29 2017, 10:41 AM)
How you manage to see this movement?
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Go above 2.90 then retreat back.. from high drop to 2.90 then bounce back..

Layman support term.. tongue.gif

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post Mar 29 2017, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 29 2017, 10:58 AM)
LOL!

Layman could also view this as resistance ma....
Cos it cannot get above 290.

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Such stuff....
Errr....not advisable hor.....risky la.
See?
Your other S?
Day day go little up....
Stealth mode....
No good meh?

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So my layman resistance correct or not jek? tongue.gif

The other S..hor... good stock but so slow and no volume.. funny de.

Go up 1 sen, next day drop 1 sen, some times only go up 2 sen, but drop 1 sen... zombie mode. laugh.gif

Not like stock P.. perform good after the last Q report as expected... macam itu lar.. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 29 2017, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 29 2017, 11:30 AM)
Layman usually wrong one. tongue.gif

Your mind sudah kena corrupted by the mau wang fast fast.....

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Not mau wang fast fast.. just that kenot tahan see good stock move like zombie.. but rubbish stock move like race car..

Cannot brain.. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 29 2017, 11:33 PM

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I found another possible cup n handle trend .... Today went up with volume.

It is an old super boring counter. Kfima.

What does TA says.. wink.gif
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post Mar 30 2017, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 30 2017, 08:17 AM)
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It's a holding company.... tongue.gif
where's the cup?
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From Aug 16 to Mar 17...

Itu bukan cup meh.. hmm.gif
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post Mar 30 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 30 2017, 08:21 AM)
you are doing well with fundamental, why you want to mess it up with TA that everyone interpreted differently based on what they feel right/wrong?

the good fundamental stock rarely offers opportunity for technical entry.
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Still learning mah... If FA already know, now learn TA lo..

I read somewhere... choose the stock based on FA, entry and exit based on TA.. you get the best of two worlds. rclxms.gif

I dont want to choose any chapalang stock merely for the TA to trade shorterm... tongue.gif

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post Mar 30 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 30 2017, 10:54 AM)
then again, why sell on TA and miss the rest of the rides if you based on fundamental of entry?

as mentioned earlier, fundamentally good stocks will not offer much opportunity for trader to time the entry well, and most likely after they sold they will regret selling.

you will have conflict of both school of thoughts when it comes to both entry and exit, especially exit, where fundamentalist sell stocks when it's fully valued, buy when it undervalue.

Meanwhile, for day traders any lousy stocks with good volume can contra, or those with low volume can goreng.

Stick to what work best for ya. If it aint spoil dont fix it.
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There is a big misconception that good FA stocks do not need TA to time entry and exit.. i think this is not correct.

Lets say if we identify a good FA stock, can we just enter at any price? Or do we see where is the support level that enable us to enter at a good price?

Even with good FA stock entered at the wrong price, you will lose money. Many examples out there..

And lets say if we are holding another fundamental stock, and the valuations are getting rich (ie expensive) and we want to sell, do we sell at any price? Or do we wait until the price over runs the fair price to sell? And when do we pull the trigger?

Think about it. Like I say FA first for buy/sell decision, TA for pulling the trigger.

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post Mar 30 2017, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Mar 30 2017, 11:06 AM)
i see mcam V shape nia..cup takda wor
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V shape if not cup then apa? tongue.gif
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post Mar 30 2017, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 30 2017, 11:09 AM)
V ?
Lol
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Kam teach.. why i see cup, others dont.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 30 2017, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 30 2017, 11:12 AM)
Cos it looks exactly like a V?

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Holding company issue la.... whistling.gif
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Hmm tambah confuse ... rclxub.gif

Holding company kah or not.. got 1 big spike there.. hmm.gif
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post Mar 30 2017, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 30 2017, 11:17 AM)
when fundamentalist enter stock, they have their pricing model of fair value, based on eps growth or any other model. Their exist should be anytime price above fair value. every QR will revalue the fair price and when company not perform well, the slowed growth or reduced value will trigger the selling. Or perhaps portfolio re-shuttling to swap low potential to high potential stocks.

ok keep talking about fundamental in traders corner will invite someone to suggest a thread name change later, lol.
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Most pricing models or what they call DCF.. is all mostly bullshit la.. all based on figures plucked from the air. They can make it as good or as bad as they want, by just changing the discount rate or expected growth rate (to infinity LOL). Or some analyst use RNAV or sum of parts, the valuation also more or less pluck from air also.. innocent.gif

I prefer to analyze based on current facts or figures, and only looking at the question.. can they make more money next year compared to this year? What is the basis and proof... tongue.gif

Then.. I look at at TA for entry and exit.. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 30 2017, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 30 2017, 11:24 AM)
Basic of cups....

See it's macam this...
Hope I can spit everything out clearly.

Stocks came down from a high ( dun care the reason la)..
So it falls off....
Yes is falling...the VOLUME disappears...
(Yeah..for  whatever nobody wants to sell anymore)...
So you get a period where it goes comatose...
After time...
The volume and price increases slightly....
People suddenly remember the stock...
So it goes back up.....
So you get the rounded cup scene...
As it inches back up...to where it fell from....
A cup would have formed.....
But then....
U will have a bunch of sellers who were merely waiting to sell at a higher price+u got a bunch of low price traders who were munching bits and bits at the bottom ...they decides to sell to take profit.....
Now that is the handle formation.......
And once these batch of sellers exhaust their selling...
The stock would erupt once the new wave of buying happens........
Ideally the cup formation takes about 6-8 months...
And too long cup formation isn't ideal either...
ie if the cup takes 2 years or longer to form....
Ok ah?

This is as much as i can remember off hand.
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Ok understood.. volume must dissapear to form cup.. not only the shape. laugh.gif

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