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Mar 4 2022, 09:29 AM
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Mar 4 2022, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Mar 4 2022, 09:47 AM) Yup yup, remember bring up last time MPI Kobay chart. Ah... you remembered. But the tech stocks breaking down like glove stocks... sooner or later, some would throw in the V word... History repeat itself, so what are you buying these day ? For me, as usual, not rushing to make any trade..... The stronger moves were those pure commodity stocks. But such plays never suited me. Take Hibiscus. If I did trade it, the stock would had been purely based on charts ( since I have no grasp on fair value ) and if I did, I would had been shaken off around 1.18. having said that there are a couple of interesting proposition is some smaller size stocks. Much more riskier... and the pitch doesn't seem all that fat yet. right now.... pondering whether the situation with oil..... 150 oil? really? |
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Mar 4 2022, 10:35 AM
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Mar 4 2022, 04:02 PM
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Mar 4 2022, 04:16 PM
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... and this is the farthest back I can go with Kenanga software...
![]() *the chart is unadjusted for dividends and bonus etc* and yea... I cannot display it all in one shot... but from it, you can see ... that during the period Jan 1997 to May 2002... the stock had a high of 6.30 ... and during the crash of 1999 came, the stock corrected .... and by May 2001 it reached a low of 2.88 before rebounding.... |
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Mar 4 2022, 04:22 PM
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Mar 4 2022, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 4 2022, 04:22 PM) and because the rise from the lows of 2.88 in May 2001 was so great.... the chart then looks like this... But it's always easy to speak on hindsight, knowing very well what happened next (since we got the help of the chart)... ![]() Yeah... so on hindsight... based on what I got.... May 2001... was a bloody good time to be an investor... This was the QR report on Feb 2001 https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...s?ann_id=554841 with that 4th quarter report, we see revenue from UP crash from 436 million ( fy 1999) to just 279 million (fy 2000) (and yea... it's a little bit more accurate to see from annual report) (united plant own website only does a 5 year thingy) Net profit dropped from 115 million to 40 million... so that was a CRASH there to lows of 2.88. (which explains the stock falling from 6+ in 1997 to 2.88 in 2001) |
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Mar 4 2022, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 4 2022, 04:32 PM) But it's always easy to speak on hindsight, knowing very well what happened next (since we got the help of the chart)... And today... for comparison, the last quarter alone, UP net profit is around 150+ million.... with total net profit estimated above 550 million.This was the QR report on Feb 2001 https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...s?ann_id=554841 with that 4th quarter report, we see revenue from UP crash from 436 million ( fy 1999) to just 279 million (fy 2000) (and yea... it's a little bit more accurate to see from annual report) (united plant own website only does a 5 year thingy) Net profit dropped from 115 million to 40 million... so that was a CRASH there to lows of 2.88. (which explains the stock falling from 6+ in 1997 to 2.88 in 2001) yeah... from a net profit of 40 million in 2001... to a net profit estimated around 550 million in 2021..... that should explain the monstrous rise in stock price since 2001.... but plantations... obviously... the size of the plantation land is so crucial.... the bigger the planted land, the crop returns should grow ... and then one needs to factor in the fertility of the planted land. this fertility issue sounds so trivial but issues like this does crop out in our cpo stocks. there's way too much factors involved.... which is way too complex for me... study land, study fertility, study weather, study other crops.... and then... it's palm oil.... which means we got the lobby factor (ie countries lobbying against our palm oil) .... and then... workers issue.... and then of course, not all management is the same....which means I surrender. |
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Mar 4 2022, 04:57 PM
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forgot.... age of the trees also important.
Too young no fruit Too old .... err .... no need say... |
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Mar 4 2022, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Mar 4 2022, 04:57 PM) as for land, they are primarily in Perak, where home of flat land in peninsular, which makes it very easy for their mechanisation effort. You can also refer to this posting by Smurfson rainfall, malaysian average annual rainfall of >2500 make our shore very suitable for oil palm planting. land fertility dunno how to comment, but if they have prepare their land in a very good shape for planting from the start, they have no problem of going into 3 planting cycles easily. one cycle is 25 years + 3 years of immature from replanting = 28 years. There's always ppl who are against your palm oil, but everybody knows that with scarcity of lands, oil palm is the only crop that can give the most produce in every hectare of planting, compared to corn, sunflower, etc etc.... workers issue is definitely one, but they are not as heavily hit as their mechanisation helped a lot...... anymore did i miss? post #58948 |
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Mar 4 2022, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Mar 4 2022, 05:02 PM) 0-3 immature - no fruit this is why the bangla in me dowan to see to much............. 4-12 young prime 13 - 25 prime 25-28 due for replanting old doesnt mean no fruit, old also got fruit, just that it gets very tall, very difficult to harvest, that's why those indon/bangla dont wanna do it, say no fruit. |
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Mar 5 2022, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Mar 4 2022, 05:05 PM) lol... so this was a reverse tipsy eh? well tq la.. this one... https://unitedplantations.com/plantations/ |
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Mar 6 2022, 09:30 AM
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Mar 7 2022, 10:32 AM
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Mar 7 2022, 12:24 PM
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Mar 7 2022, 01:40 PM
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Mar 7 2022, 01:43 PM
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Mar 7 2022, 01:46 PM
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Mar 7 2022, 01:46 PM
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LOL!!! ..... xxx
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