lol..i say ma..analyst write wat..i watch show...u see vivocom case..
inisder news not analysts lo
2 different thing..

jump or not i see 1st..sometime i malas pun...

Haha.
If you insist la.

Anyway good night dude.


Just wanna tell you again..
There's a whole lot of traders and investors who make very profitable money avoiding insiders news.

Perhaps you should try reading Reminisces Of A stick Operator.

Nite.

.. and oh... I do know a number of people who lost a fortune betting on inside news.

and ever wonder why insider share their so special inside news?

Ok. Now fresh.

Vivocom? Insider news? Many times you write very vague one. LOL! Or maybe I cannot understand. hahaa...

Assuming you are saying, you had insider news to buy Vivocom.... Assume la....

Anyway, I think you forget that sometimes I got elephant memory.

How about say, I person like me, tarak insider news. You think I would have buta buta buy Vivocom or Instacom last time? (ps: wasn't there some big fat writeup on Vivocom from CIMB too? )

Remember this discussion? https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...00&p=81503078&#
And ironically, it all started cos someone just came and spam the forum with several same postings claiming from their whatsapp group.
(follow groups like that and simply follow buy stocks, what's the chances of kena-ing some big big wok like Vivo? I am sure many people got burnt big time in this stock)

Anyway see from post #203 (the whatsapp spam) and then from post #209 onwards... (haha... you posted too... )
Anyway the point is simple... AVOID the stock like plague...
And the end result? From Sep 2016 until new... how did Vivocom do?

Does one really need such insider news?


Just sharing in details my views la...

and again if you insist that insider news is the way to go (I don't blame you la... since you are rather in close proximity to this industry) , go ahead la. ..

How about this counter Boon3

Gonna sell it tomorrow

KLCI looking strong, crude oil looking strong (DNEX owns 30% of Ping Petroleum). It's also 1 of the top picks for 2018. Some say it's an election theme stock. Analyst TP 70 sen and above.

So why sell? I think I'm holding on to it

Unless u see the chart as hitting the resistant line?

This post has been edited by danielcmugen: Jan 4 2018, 07:00 PM

Sorry I have little knowledge about FA and i'm kinda between day trading and trend trading. But I love to learn FA someday.

Base on my TA that doji is near support is not promising and happily take my profit. Will trade again this counter if got buy signal.

Buy SKPRES at 2.16...
Cut loss at 2.10...
Paper trade only la...

Lucky Daniel helped by sharing some of his opinions with you.
I certainly wouldn't know how to answer you since the info was rather bare.
For example: What's your entry? What sort of trading? etc etc...
Plus, I don't enjoy giving direct buy/sell comments...

Anyway, do you see the advantage Daniel holds over you?
His knowledge of the company and it's worth, puts him ahead.
For example, atm he does not have to force himself to make a decision. He reckons the stock should trade higher, which means his trade can allow him to ignore short term fluctuations.

In long run, you would lose out if you continue such handicapping...

Fundamentals are not difficult.
You can start with this very simplistic way.

why does one buy a company (stock)? One buys the company knowing the company stands a chance of making more and more money each year.
If the company wasn't a stock, wouldn't you approach this manner?

ok?

now... along the way, there are trick stuff.
you will hear... oh... this company, is so big, well known.... blah, blah, blah...
but it's selling at a discount.
ie got value.
50 sen for the dollar.
the danger with this approach is... ( esp when one is not truly very good with fundamental valuing).... there could be a real reason why the stock is selling at a discount.
2 possible scenarios.
(1) company is no longer making more money. company is actually stagnant. Could it be the company fault? the product fault? or could it be the owners feel they already made it big, hence they no longer have the drive?
(2) company's fundamental is actually deteriorating. for example, losing more money each year. etc etc.

either case... if this was a real company in life... would you buy a stake in it?

I like to think like this.
It might not be the best but I cut out a lot of stock market cliches....

So first step, try focusing on profits...
Is current performance, indicating that the company would make more money this year than previous year?
If so, wouldn't you buy or hold the stock?

for Dnex, I believe Daniel reckons this potential.
He is willing to bet on it.... ie... he is willing to play the bigger game in this trade.
Perhaps I would too.... if I was in.

oops... rather longish reply... lol... this is typical me....



ps.. if you paper trade longer... you could do so much comparisons...
perhaps longer term trading yields a far better satisfactory result than day trading....

Sure bo?

Someone don't allow to play with real money ma...

First, 3 consecutive quarters, i predict the revenue for current FY 2017 should be higher than last FY.

but im not sure why the net profit of FY 2016 was that high with the back of 179m revenue. perhaps u can study its QR.

i dont know the company background as well.

technical wise,



Dnex has broke its downtrend and resistance of 0.515.

If i were you, i would continue to hold it, though some corrections/consolidations might happen given that the stock has been going up too strong.

but it also depends on your entry price ma. if my entry price is around 0.450, its a hold for me and continue to monitor it.

Disclaimer: this is only my opinion, not a buy or sell call. trade at your risks.

This post has been edited by twhong_91: Jan 4 2018, 09:48 PM


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Thanks guys, I feel so small in here. Need a lot to learn

In my watchlist last week waiting for entry
But cannot too many counter la not enough capital.

BTW, why not look at it's brother, Hibiscus Petroleum?

Dnex owns 30% of Ping Petroleum which in turn owns 50% of Anasuria Cluster, making Dnex effectively own 15% of it.

Hibiscus owns 50% of Anasuria Cluster. Its revenue is solely from this asset while Dnex's revenue is a mixture of other businesses. Increasing crude oil price will have more effect on Hibiscus' revenue and net profit.

Hibiscus is also acquiring North Sabah PSC asset which leaves it more room for growth.

so if this is not real...
tell me...
your gameplay.

For example... how much profits u are aiming for in this trade?

Boss.. The strategy here will be to stay in the trade. Get out if the trend is broken. No profit target.

This post has been edited by Suicidal Guy: Jan 5 2018, 10:14 AM

Are you sure this is you best way to trade meh? Or you just testing testing?

Trends can always be broken.
Sometimes abruptly too...
And if you jumps into a rather matured trend, there might not be much upside to make your trade successful/meaningful....and sometimes the risk/reward is not even worthwhile....

I always try to ask this myself...
Am I making this trade just for the sake of trading?
Or am I seeing a sure big fat win if I make the trade?

Sometimes my strategy is that too. But if gap down very pain to sell.

True but... I would say IQGroup is different.
There was a total breakdown in profits.
One should have clearly avoided it.

Just testing testing only boss..

My reasoning is that is has been growing at a rate of around 50% for the past few years. Currently at PE 20++, it is still at a reasonable price and most likely there is more upside to come. Of course, this would be on the back that the growth continues.

I would say IQ Group's earning is not stable. It only showed two consecutive quarters of good earnings and then came a bad quarter. Fundamentally, it has not proven itself yet.