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post Nov 21 2019, 05:21 PM

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Is it difficult to get a job in Singapore with a Malaysia public universities' degree in Engineering or Computer Science?
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post Nov 23 2019, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(KilJim @ Nov 22 2019, 09:07 AM)
Yes
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Nov 22 2019, 09:10 AM)
You can find those MY companies that set up their shops in SG too. Chances are higher that they hire Malaysians.
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QUOTE(Thunder_Bolt @ Nov 23 2019, 09:42 AM)
I heard that even though you can get a job, but very high probability that this will be used as a reason by the Sg company to lowball your starting salary, especially those local Sg companies.
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Different from what I heard from engineer friends in Singapore. They said their companies care more about the candidates' strength than where they graduated. Some even prefer foreign graduates than local scholars.
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post Dec 6 2019, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Radec @ Dec 6 2019, 01:18 AM)
$$$ and experience working abroad. I'm from PH so MY and SG is an upgrade on all things except I don't get to see my dogs for months.
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Dec 6 2019, 09:57 AM)
Are you Radek from Poland?
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post Dec 22 2019, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(freechuan @ Dec 19 2019, 07:57 PM)
Need your opinion. If you were given salary of SGD2800-2900 at the age of 29 for working as a quantity surveyor, would you consider? Or still prefer to stay at Malaysia for a Salary for RM5k+
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If it is easy to switch QS job in Spore why not, take it as a stepping stone.
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post Jan 23 2020, 04:56 PM

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One million Malaysian/ex-Malaysian coming back to spend rm1000 each, wow.
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post Jan 23 2020, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 23 2020, 07:05 PM)
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TQ TQ.
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post Jan 30 2020, 08:10 AM

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A friend who works as a Senior Mechanical Engineer in Singapore shipyard discourage me to send my son to UTM to study Engineering (4 years, fees rm3500/year) because it is harder to get a job in Singapore compare to those with Foreign Degrees(Monash 4 years, rm200k/year). Is it true? He was saying that during shortlisting Malaysia Public U graduates(except for UM) r already in disadvantage.
My son intends to study Electrical Engineering(Mechatronic) and then Master (foreign degree) so that he can works in industries that use robotics. Will there be a demand for this field in Singapore?
My thought is instead of spending few hundred thouands on basic degree, use the money for Master in a more reputable Foreign U.

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post Jan 30 2020, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 30 2020, 08:12 AM)
Depends on the industry. I studied from a Australian university for my degree. Still the same pay with my colleague from uitm.

I'm a civil engineer btw.
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QUOTE(55665566 @ Jan 30 2020, 08:21 AM)
Yah, sometimes make me wonder why do I go for rm100k degree instead of local u
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 30 2020, 09:09 AM)
Your friend works in a industry that is SINKING hence giving you such ill advise. Keppel, Sembcorp they all are struggling. During the years when they are booming, did he tell you he earn FAT bonus?

Get a Public U degree first then further his study overseas. That's a very sound plan, both economically and experience wise. I went through the same. The Master degree qualification will superseed the Bachelor degree when hunting for job
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Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. But lately many friends who are sending their children overseas have been telling me otherwise n my spouse is worried. Anyway UTM a university ranked 85 in QS ranking(Engineering) should not be too bad.

QS ranking by ENGINEEERING & TECHNOLOGY:

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post Jan 30 2020, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Jan 30 2020, 10:03 AM)
As a grad from utar electrical engineering, have been working in sg for more than 9yrs, now sg citizen

Just make sure the course is recognize by malaysia board of engineers ( at least the quality is there) , after grad and go register as grad engineer with bem

Take the chance during internship to learn everything possible, dont simply find a office role doing copying or filing daily , this dont help. Get some experience during internship, will help u score during job hunting in sg

Be humble on salary, if u expect same salary as local nus ntu grad of 4k+,, then wish u all good luck

Go in first, get a job, get one or two yrs experience, jump ship and start applying singapore pr

Get pr in another yr, and u r free to go whereever u want

U got pr , and u got experience, no one cares where u grad from

I been interview some intern , local ntu nus sutd , even usa boston uni, really depends to individual attitude whether they can perform , edu just a stepping stone at the start. ...
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Thanks for telling your experience and advice, appreciate it.
Btw WHICH Singapore industries r sunrise or sunset?
My son is thinking of Master in AI/robotics after EEE.
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post Jan 30 2020, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Jan 30 2020, 10:26 AM)
Just asked my other half doing engineering. He say he prefer UTM over Monash. UTM has a good reputation in civil engineering in his mind but not Monash, other engineering not sure. Overall he prefer government uni than private uni cause private uni got financial barrier which not mainly based on student's merit but parents' bank merit. But that is him la, not all company think the same way. Some HR will filter out lesser known uni then your friend jialat.
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Thanks for taking the trouble to ask your partner. Hope I am making the right decision cos for foreign study I can only afford either undergrad or postgrad but not both.
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post Jan 30 2020, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Jan 30 2020, 03:27 PM)
Provide the char Siew until uni, later can work and earn their own money. If want study more, work for it yourself. Earn your own money, or study hard for scholarships

If parents richfag then different story la. The dude was like, can sponsor either undergrad or post grad only.
If rich, can even sponsor kahwin, house, car.
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U misunderstood ME. what I meant was I can afford to spend only one of the programs overseas not both. My son should qualify for UTM based on his cgpa after 2 semesters. My plan is for him to get his undergrad at UTM n straight away continue to postgrad oversea as I have budgeted 500k for both. It will be a bonus if he can gets scholarship but not being B40, scholarship is limited.
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post Jan 30 2020, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jan 30 2020, 02:39 PM)
better he go and do computer engineering degree, then go work for google, amazon, lazada, etc..

regular engineering is already sunset la. but will remain stable industry as boomers are more or less all retired, and there's a opening of skilled engineers coming in to replace them. But don't hope for much wages as foreigners can do the job for less.
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His second choice is software engineering then master in data science. One - ve about this career is never ending n upgrading skills, meaning stressful.

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QUOTE(sawyeratjx @ Jan 30 2020, 01:20 PM)
UTAR grad of chemical engineering working in automation field.

No point thinking about sunrise or sunset. I joined ChemE when the oil industry was booming and in a few years it all went to shit. EEE is a very diverse field, no worries.

If you have the money, then send him overseas lo. But if they are not higher ranking compared to NUS/NTU basically no point.
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By Engineering n Technology subject ranking NTU is 6 NUS is 8, so very few are better than that:

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post Jan 30 2020, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Jan 30 2020, 06:28 PM)
As a engineer myself, doing proper electrical system design for construction property

I dont recommend to go for engineering course in malaysia

Better go for computer, IT kind of courses

More chances of getting hired in sg and higher progression pay , instead of stuck in low pay job in engineering field
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Why is that happening for engineers, in flux of foreign experts?
Isn't it the same for IT, especially from India?
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post Jan 31 2020, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jan 31 2020, 10:40 AM)
Engineering is a matured industry. It's harder to break the social norms and established fixed wages. This was determined decades ago when they import foreign talent amongst SEA & India for cheaper rate..

It happens to all industries that slowly established over-time. The demand of workers is more or less fulfilled and stable.

Whereas, emerging industries like IT, the demand is higher and it is harder to find IT specialists like coders and software engineers.. So naturally, the pay is higher to attract talent.

But competition for those industries such as banking and IT is stiff and harder to break into. Not to mention volatile. Your company may go bankrupt the next day and you may be out of employment.

Meanwhile, engineering is a stable industry with a predictable amount of high and low seasons. Plus, it is much easier to get into SG through engineering field. This is partially due to the locals not being too keen to take up a job they deem as 'dirty' or below them..

I would say engineers in Singapore, after a few years of local experience do earn a decent, if not median annual income.
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Thanks for your feedback, appreciate it.
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post Feb 10 2020, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(strategist @ Feb 10 2020, 01:50 PM)
PC parts or Phone?

PC parts is Sim Lim Square

Phone is Far East Plaza
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Where ex-Funan vendors move to?
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post Feb 17 2020, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(peramdupe @ Feb 16 2020, 05:00 PM)
lol ada wang ada amoi

Just being realistic on the 9k. Of course I'll try to score the highest possible salary.

Hopefully the government plan for socso will go through.
Yeah I'm considering uprooting to SG but the cost would be pretty much cancel out the pay raise.
Got it. Thanks for the reminder.

Right now I'm traveling 1 hour each way anyway. I'm hoping JB-SG commute to not be much different. Plus I'll be in Tech which usually(but not necessarily) have slightly flexible hour.
I’ve been in management level before, but its not for me. Too much politic and mind game. No work satisfaction. Currently I'm in consultant-ish role which fits me better. I'm looking for similar role if I were to work in Singapore.

Mind sharing why do you prefer the 15k? I felt this way before, but now I got a feeling that I'm stagnating. Talk to few senior friends and they said its normal to be stagnant in our 30s. Some start side business, freelance and all that. Call it mid-career crisis but I'm not sure what to do career-wise for the next 5 years.
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This just came out, can use it as a referrence:
https://www.asiaone.com/money/cost-living-s...y-really-enough
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post Feb 19 2020, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(HouseHunter @ Feb 19 2020, 11:34 AM)
I just rejected SG offer after consider possibility my life after accepting SG offer.

1. Accept it and every weekend travel between two countries (I got family), which is time consuming and money burn.
2. After working for 1 to 2 years with some saving. What to do next? Malaysia job market so sucks for engineer. So in the end will I just stuck in SG?
3. My wife not working if I move them over, my salary hardly cover everything because I still got house installment at MY, then expenses in SG with kid education.

Although SG has a lot of attractive job but all these string attach and commitment you can't go anywhere. Any move to oversea better do it when you are single or without any family.
My Opinion......
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Would like to hear more comments on “Malaysia job market so sucks for engineer". Not as good as WallChecker rm15k?

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post Feb 19 2020, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(HouseHunter @ Feb 19 2020, 03:39 PM)
I'm a embedded software/firmware engineer, from the title you already knows is very hard to find job in KL. As for Penang also not much but better than KL. But due to family and house at KL, so Penang out of the list. I tried to search for months in KL can't find job that match. Maybe there is some startup company at cycberjaya but they can't afford to pay and be prepare anytime jobless.
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Are u a graduate from local public Uni's Electrical Engineering or Computer Science? Since embedded software/firmware engineer job opportunity is so limited in Malaysia, with your qualification can't u go into other jobs?
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post Feb 19 2020, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(HouseHunter @ Feb 19 2020, 03:57 PM)
I can do that but I will lost the time with my son. I'm a family man I hope to accompany my son grow up, weekend father really not good for the family. But whole family move in the salary you getting can't sustain it. So back to square one.... haiz....
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If whole family moving to Spore then u have to consider NS for your son.

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