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Sony Sony Xperia XZ Premium - 2017 Super Flagship, 4K HDR 960fps Camera, Now in Oreo 8.0

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post Jun 10 2017, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 10 2017, 12:09 PM)
If u know Cantonese.. quite positive review for XZP.

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yea. watched this morning..except low light photo and battery life..overall win s8. Sony really strike back this time and i hope can keep it up.
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post Jun 11 2017, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(orangegurl @ Jun 11 2017, 10:59 AM)
i thought theres DAC chip inside the phone, but how come it can produce such high quality output audio ?
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it just not enough power to push, thats y on same volume sony phone sound softer and u cant feel the performance on some really good earphone
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post Jun 12 2017, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(nanadeadbeat @ Jun 11 2017, 11:39 PM)
but cannot get..nice also no use T.T.. tao bao got but tempered glass type mostly only front..back one all normal screen protector..haiz
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post Jun 12 2017, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(nanadeadbeat @ Jun 12 2017, 12:03 AM)
why say that?"nice also no use"?
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cos cant get it in malaysia and cant find in taobao...today i went SS2 Ninjaz mobile accessories to sapu extra type C cable ..then when paying money i tot try my luck ask the assistant selling any xz premium SP...she stone there for few seconds then ask me back sony X....Z!?? then i say nvm ...paymoney n run
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post Jun 12 2017, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(nanadeadbeat @ Jun 12 2017, 12:16 AM)
why your choice only China and Malaysia? try google imos 3sas
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hmm??? sounds like they do international shipping?..err..not fully transparent...will block logo
i found this fully transparent but back SP not tempered glass.. sigh

https://world.tmall.com/item/552463880390.h...d=3386792345258

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post Jun 12 2017, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(bpay14 @ Jun 12 2017, 12:41 AM)
160? for SP most expensive i bought was 30+ this 1 too over la...btw..i think soon might got new firmware update..
taiwan version...so far cant find changelog
https://xpericheck.com/device/G8142
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post Jun 12 2017, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(bpay14 @ Jun 12 2017, 12:46 AM)
btw.. i jz placed a few order on taobao today..
SP.. transparent soft case.. leather sleeve.. type c cables...
lolzz.. new phone new accessories..  doh.gif
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I oso bought..but wrong sp.is those normal sp not tempered.but i will change to those normal sp cos sony one really sux
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post Jun 12 2017, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jun 12 2017, 02:28 PM)
Yes I know, but still too big when other phones can do it in smaller form factor. For me will be perfect if top and bottom bezels are eliminated. Now it looks exactly like Xiaomi Mi 3 which is few years old already.
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when come to bezel..i find out most ppl are bias... iphone got big bezel but i din heard any1 complain but mostly compliments..when sony got bezel..lot complaints like: out date la...big untill can park a plane on it la..bla bla bla... i m sure everything come with purposes(lesser chance mistouch screen, stereo speaker &ETc) else those phone designer can balik kampung tanam jagung d. of cos i dun mind smaller bezel but not totally eliminate it


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post Jun 12 2017, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Maiden222 @ Jun 12 2017, 08:12 PM)
People choose apple because of branding and software not the bezel but when u compare an Xperia zp you are comparing with every single Android phone in the market.

Sony bezel is very huge especially for a 5.5inch screen means the phone is huge.  Smaller the bezel the bigger viewing size.

S8 already did it even so thin and curve edge there no mistouch. Eliminate the bezel give you a floating screen effect.

Xperia Zp looks outdated because most phone bezel getting smaller while this phone get bigger
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well...this is very subjective n very own preference. like then like. don like then don like. XZP wont get best phone award without any reason. if u try elminate bezel on XZP it will look FUGLY IMHO. my conclusion is sony need a need design language if wan thinner bezel.since u say ppl buy apple for branding n software, i can also say ppl buy this phone for features(960 fps, 4k hdr, etc u name it)
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post Jun 13 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(bpay14 @ Jun 13 2017, 09:37 AM)
ok, let's talk back about XZP.

after 6 days usage, the battery life is not impressing.. aikss.
jz working fairly better than my 3-year-old Z2..

but the quick charging is good indeed.
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mayb u watch lot 4k ? i only realize my phone power drop like lao sai when i watch 4k content... like yesterday my usage from 10am-8pm my power left 40+% which i din watch lot 4k but only comic reading..fb, texting n slow mo video.
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post Jun 13 2017, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(bpay14 @ Jun 13 2017, 10:39 AM)
no le.. i didnt watch 4K alot..
in fact from day 1 till now i only tried to watch 4K in youtube twice for spiderman trailer & transformer trailer haha..

but i did use google map GPS ytd alot. will try to monitor again.  laugh.gif
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GPS confirm consume lot power la..lol
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post Jun 13 2017, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jun 13 2017, 10:34 AM)
i am afraid this is a double standard towards a certain brand.
in every reviews, there will be certain someone in the comments section love to justify the bezels.
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some butthurt fans from other brand...i still remember when sony 1st launch full metal frame phone, they say metal heavy la..easy scratch la ,cannot replace battery la this n that la..then when now mostly all brand go to full metal...they keep quiet but then change focus say to bezel, fingerprint magnet la UI sux la...aiyo..dun like dun buy la...go lick ur fav brand ball n dun critic on other brands
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post Jun 13 2017, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Likesh @ Jun 13 2017, 11:53 AM)
i buy phone no see brand one, i only see the quality, and what extra function they provide. In d end after research all the flagship for 2017, i choose sony for the 960 FPS video, lolz. S8 really Meh for me

Sony, at least the chrome phone Body attract me also.

But now 1 issue, not much accessory for SONY phone sell in KL shop...
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always go taobao 1st....lot accessories malaysia din bring in...even simple 1.5m display port cable whole digital mall oso dun have....only 1m...
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post Jun 13 2017, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Maiden222 @ Jun 13 2017, 02:59 PM)
Same I don't see brand either I see the value, design and additional features then decided xpz is not my cup of tea because screen too small, bezel too thick, 960 fps video useless for me., 
Based on gsmarena review s8 vs LG g6 vs Xperia xz premium

Design
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. In this most refined incarnation of the dual-edge concept the Galaxy S8 is the most posh looking phone here, all the while being reasonably comfortable to handle. The fingerprint reader is obviously in the wrong place, though. The G6 feels bulkier, but offers a more secure grip thanks to fatter sides and flat screen, and undoubtedly a better placed fingerprint sensor. The XZ Premium isn't keeping up with the edge-to-edge trends this year when even Sony's own XA1 Ultra has gone on a diet and has shed the side bezels for a more modern look.

Display
Winner: Tie between the Samsung Galaxy S8 and the Sony Xperia XZ Premium. The S8 wins in brightness, contrast and outdoor visibility. The Premium is the sharpest by far, has the most usable screen area and allows streaming in 2160p across various services. The G6 supports Dolby Vision on top of the other two's HDR 10, but that's as much as it's got on the competition.

Battery life
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. The Samsung handset manages the best endurance with the smallest battery and has comprehensive battery saver options. The Xperia is similarly well-equipped in terms of battery saving features, but it's not as long lasting. The G6 is just average in both areas.

Connectivity
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. The G6 takes a hit for its older chipset that lacks Gigabit LTE and Bluetooth 5.0, while the S8 and XZ Premium sport the chips of the day and are mostly tied. Until the S8 pulls out its DeX trump card - of course, a handful of people will get one, but the option is there for those that want to.

Software
Winner: Tie between the Sony Xperia XZ Premium and the Samsung Galaxy S8. The XZ Premium will appeal to purists, while the S8 is the most feature-packed. The G6 offers little on top of stock Android, but is thoroughly redesigned nonetheless.

Loudspeaker
Winner: Tough one. We'd call it a tie as none really excels. The Xperia has stereo speakers going for it, but they're pretty quiet; the G6 is loud, at the expense of distortion at maximum volume; the S8 is the most balanced, but we can't call it a winner, when it doesn't have stereo speakers, and a competitor does.

Audio quality
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. The loudest output with the least degradation in quality when under load comes from the Samsung headset.

Performance
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. A predictable showing from the three phones in the benchmarks - the Galaxy S8 in Exynos trim is the usual chart-topper, followed closely by the Snapdragon 835-powered S8 and the Xperia XZ Premium. The LG G6 does the best with what it's got, but the last gen chip can't compete in the numbers game. That said, you'd be hard-pressed to find a substantial difference in the behavior of the devices in actual use.

Camera
Winner: Tie. The S8 has remarkable noise reduction that cancels out noise without affecting edge detail. It's also got the dual pixel autofocus, which is unmatched for speed and accuracy. The Xperia can capture an abundance of detail, has the widest dynamic range (even if by a small margin) and you can rely on Superior Auto to pick the right scene mode for you. The G6 deserves praise for what it achieves with the smallest sensor here - fine detail, well-controlled noise, good dynamic range. Not to mention that it's got two of them rear cams and the wide-angle one is massive fun to shoot with.

Camera HDR
Winner: Tie. All are decent, but far from remarkable. The S8 has a live preview, which is nice, the Xperia will handle HDR for you in Superior Auto, while the LG is a bit awkward in changing modes, but all of these are too minor to make a difference.

Camera low light with tripod

Winner: Sony Xperia XZ Premium. When properly supported on a tripod and in Manual mode (it's basically shutter priority, but still), the Xperia is capable of producing excellent low-light shots with total detail levels unmatched by the other two. The G6 may resolve a tiny bit more on a per-pixel level when shot from the same spot, but walk a few steps to frame the same composition on the Xperia, and the G6's longer lens advantage disappears. The Galaxy S8 can't compete for detail, but it's also got the lowest noise. Just make sure you don't go slower than 1/4s because the heavier noise reduction eradicates all intricate detail.

Camera panorama
Winner: Tie between the Samsung Galaxy S8 and the LG G6. The S8 is the sharpest but has that pesky exposure stitching ruining its shots, while the G6 has stitching issues on a local level. The Xperia doesn't stitch flawlessly either and is got the softest image.

Camera selfie
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S8. You may need to learn its autofocusing quirks, but once you do, the S8 will reward you with the most pleasing images of the three.

Video
Winner: Tie. It's nearly impossible to pick one of the three - they're that good. The Xperia scores major points for its slo-mo video, but some will argue it's of limited use. Good thing then, that the Sony smartphone also excels in 4K and has a stabilization that works. The Galaxy S8 captures very good 4K itself, but reigns supreme in 1080p, where its stabilization also functions better than in 4K. The G6 has perhaps the most detailed 4K video, and with a wide-angle cam on top of the regular one it's a boon for action shooters.

Video low light
Winner: Tie. To each their own. The G6 is a bit dark, but it's probably the most expressive here. The S8's footage is pleasantly punchy out of the box, while the more laid-back Xperia could use a boost of contrast, but some will appreciate its natural look.

SOS
http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_g6_samsung_galaxy...view-1612p9.php
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dun understand this kind butthurt fansboy... i might comment like those fanboy if that is a vote poll to choose which will be your fav phone but not like this go other brand thread bash and criticize ur phone sux la..my is the best...je ne comprend pas? i choose xzp not only i am sony fan but also becos of 4k hdr...slow mo is not really a big deal actually...if u compare the screen sharpness n quality u will know.. u see...now try talk another point... when sony Z ultra offer 6.44 screen ppl will say sony lost its mind la...screen so big for fuck la...then now 5.5 a pretty standard size u guys say small la...bezel la..vitrual key button make the screen even smaller la this la that la...omfg...wonder will ur bash other ppl gf bf husband wife like that also? if u r running business..will u go bash ur competitors like that ?tell ur customer or prospect that way?go to ur competitors shop bash them?
gsm arena is famous of bias samsung..u see those review that have tie results....some still indirect say s8 better but a tie? omg video u call a tie? go youtube search...i m not trying to bash s8 but s8 stabilization is not as good as xzp becos of the shaking jelly effect...performance wise...no comment but i saw lot video xzp n htc u11 load app faster than S8...

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post Jun 13 2017, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(lyn_grayskale @ Jun 13 2017, 06:13 PM)
I can't believe the huge deal people make with bezels nowadays - I can't brain it.
I think if Sony is pushed any further, they might go crazy and just rage release a totally bezel-less phone, just to shutup the anti-bezel camp  - and other brand-fans will still come in and make noise about it.

Anyhow, love this XZP - I miss the forest blue of XZ - but there is a chrome bluish tone in the deepsea black when under sunlight or bright indoor lighting.

The youtube 4k is jaw dropping - in terms of the colors..
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i missed that purple color...i missed my z1...mobo die..GG
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QUOTE(unicode @ Jun 13 2017, 06:35 PM)
Reporting in after a while on Z5.

I have just recently purchased mine Xperia XZ Premium (Titanium) over KLCC Sony Centre.

Have to agree that Sony is making a big come back to compete with Samsung. Obviously Sony is so much better tongue.gif

It just the tempered glass comes with Sony is really lousy -,-. Anyway to buy tempered glass over Lazada yet?
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yes. lazada do have..but only front. taobao u can find back n front tempered glass..depends wat u need..some ppl dun like back put tempered glass
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post Jun 14 2017, 12:12 AM

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hk user received new software update...i think malaysia soon
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post Jun 14 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Jun 14 2017, 08:50 AM)
GSM Arena reviews have to be taken with a cargo ship load of salt. On almost anything subjective, they will praise Samsung till the ends of the world.

I fail to understand how can they claim the S8 reign supreme in 1080p when all video comparison shows way more shakes on the S8's video compared to the silky smooth videos recorded on the XZs/XZ Premium.

And don't let the 5.5" vs 5.8" fool you. It might seem like a "big" difference but it's only a 5% increase in screen real estate because of the longer 2:1 ratio as compared to the wider 16:9 ratio.

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Most likely just a security patch update.
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many ppl say GSMARENA review are bias to apple n samsung . recombu, androidauthority review are more reliable...if u search trusted review in youtube...u will ROFL with the xzp review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlNyCez8WGc

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post Jun 14 2017, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(bpay14 @ Jun 14 2017, 11:26 AM)
rich ppl changing so many phones  tongue.gif  thumbup.gif

The phone i used before NOKIA 3310, Sony Ericsson T100, K750i, X10 (SE 1st Xperia & android phone), jump to Samsung S3, then go back SONY Z2.. now XZP..  icon_idea.gif
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i only get my 1st phone after spm graduate... nokia 6510..then sony ericsson t610(one of the 1st phone with bluetooth i guess?) w850, G900, satio then HTC desire....samsung s2....Z1 ..Z5P..ZXP...
waze really consume power gao gao...1130 96% then use till about 2pm left 47%
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jun 14 2017, 06:25 PM)
To me, overall exposure and color looks good and normal and true to nature.. good..
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to me ...sony usually put very less "Ajinomoto" on their picture and audio...

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