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 Xiaomi Mi 5C, Powered by Surge S1

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post Mar 1 2017, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Mar 1 2017, 08:34 PM)
SD625 14nm.. 28nm Vs 28nm..
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MTK is 20nm. Which means Pinecone Mi5C is very terrible phone worse than Note 4X SD which is already very bad compared to Note 4 MTk.
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post Mar 2 2017, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Mar 1 2017, 08:34 PM)
SD625 14nm.. 28nm Vs 28nm..
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surge only got a53 cores, and sd625 as well.
sd 652/653 got a73 high performance cores which is different class.
basically for performance class it should be the same class as sd625 or mtk p20.

But the issue here instead of using 14nm, they opt for 28nm which is not so battery and usage (temperature) friendly.. probably just cut costs on manufacturing costs for the soc since 28nm is cheaper to do so.

This post has been edited by GameSky: Mar 2 2017, 09:07 AM
Oldskolboyz
post Mar 2 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(GameSky @ Mar 2 2017, 09:07 AM)
surge only got a53 cores, and sd625 as well.
sd 652/653 got a73 high performance cores which is different class.
basically for performance class it should be the same class as sd625 or mtk p20.

But the issue here instead of using 14nm, they opt for 28nm which is not so battery and usage (temperature) friendly.. probably just cut costs on manufacturing costs for the soc since 28nm is cheaper to do so.
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Mostly people only look on "Nm" & neglect to take Tech Process into consideration.. Surge 1 using HPC+ show better performance & battery usage compared to 14nm LPP or 28nm HPm use by SD.. This on paper laa but in real life not sure yet..
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post Mar 2 2017, 11:03 AM

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is it China only market? like Mi4C? hmm.gif
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post Mar 2 2017, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Mar 2 2017, 10:57 AM)
Mostly people only look on "Nm" & neglect to take Tech Process into consideration.. Surge 1 using HPC+ show better performance & battery usage compared to 14nm LPP or 28nm HPm use by SD.. This on paper laa but in real life not sure yet..
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most people will see it's "new processor", selfie, "clearer camera" afaik.. only handful of tech savvy guy will see the specs
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post Mar 2 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Mar 2 2017, 10:57 AM)
Mostly people only look on "Nm" & neglect to take Tech Process into consideration.. Surge 1 using HPC+ show better performance & battery usage compared to 14nm LPP or 28nm HPm use by SD.. This on paper laa but in real life not sure yet..
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28nmHPC+ > 14nmLPP? You think TSMC is God? rclxub.gif
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post Mar 2 2017, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Mar 2 2017, 11:41 AM)
28nmHPC+ > 14nmLPP? You think TSMC is God?  rclxub.gif
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Based on Antutu benchmark you always refer to.. perform better than SD625
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post Mar 2 2017, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Mar 2 2017, 01:39 PM)
Based on Antutu benchmark you always refer to.. perform better than SD625
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Surge S1
2.2GHz

SD625
2.0GHz

The measly 4000 AnTutu could come from higher frequency.

The reason why A53 in SD625 can achieve 60k in AnTutu while SD617 can only achieve 40k Antutu is just due to 1.5GHz increased to 2.0GHz (and better GPU).

So please la. HPC+ is not god. Its just same like Samsung QLED vs LG OLED where QLED is fake OLED but never achieve the performance of OLED. While HPC+ is fake 14nm that will never achieve 14nm die shrinkage performance and low leakage.

The next thing we'll see how bad is the battery drainage in Mi5C.

Surge S1 => rubbish processor.
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post Mar 2 2017, 05:38 PM

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Have the international version of Xiaomi Mi 5c?

 

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