[OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V13!
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 Apr 14 2017, 12:04 AM
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[Budget] - 8k, include monitor + wifi PCIE card for TIME, no need case (ATX)
[Purpose] - mostly AAA Gaming can built with 1440p60 at least, and GTX 1080/1070? will i7 be better with 1080 or is i5 enough? thanks. This post has been edited by svfn: Apr 14 2017, 12:06 AM |
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Apr 14 2017, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Apr 14 2017, 09:02 AM) New 1440p monitor costs more than 1k at the moment thanks, seems ETECH price is pretty competitive hmm.  2 choices: i5 or Ryzen 5. If your "editing" includes video editing then Ryzen 5 with more cores & threads will certainly benefit you more. GTX1070/1080/1080Ti/Titan XP/Xp are recommended to pair with i7, i5 bottlenecks them unfortunately in some CPU demanding titles. And about the monitor, IPS with 6ms ok for you? Your budget is a bit hard to fit a 1440p gaming monitor except the Dell S2417DG (but I heard there are some pixel inversion issues in the early batch, need to check properly before purchase). Intel Core i7 7700 - RM 1421 Gigabyte H270-HD3 - RM 519 G.SKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 550 Gigabyte GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 G1 Gaming - RM 2099 Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 464 Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219 EVGA SuperNova 550 G2 - RM 459 TP-LINK ARCHER T9E AC1900 PCIe WiFi Dual Band - RM 206 Dell UltraSharp U2715H IPS - RM 2089 Total: RM 8026 (ETECH price inclusive of GST)  is wireless AC needed for TIME? can save with N900 TPLINK TL-WDN4800 instead? only 1 PC using wifi mostly.. also is 25" U2515H (AH-IPS)2560x1440/8ms (RM1339) good? |
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Jul 2 2017, 04:56 AM
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for Ryzen 1600, with b350 mobo, 1080ti, 1440p UW, what is a good RAM kit to pair it?
GSKILL Flare X 2x8GB DDR4 Black(AMD) 15-15-15-39 2400Mhz GSKILL Flare X DDR4 3200MHZ (worth the extra?) GSKILL Ripjaws 8GB DDR4-2800mhz, will this work on ASUS PRIME B350M-A? would like 2666MHz at least, and read that some RAM can't reach higher than 2133 on Asus Prime B350M-A. |
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Jul 2 2017, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(R3b0rn @ Jul 2 2017, 04:33 PM) Ryzen loves high speed RAM! if you have the budget go for GSKILL Flare X DDR4 3200MHZ. RM900 though. high speed RAM compatibilty still a thing since waiting for BIOS updates from Asus, Gigabyte gaming 3/MSI Tomahawk seems to be most updated. some Corsair lpx 3000 can work, some cannot (running at 2400).Otherwise, if you manage find a Samsung B-die ram then it will sure work out of the box. going intel i7-7700 i guess. |
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Jul 3 2017, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 3 2017, 01:01 PM) My RAM model not in their QVL list. yeah, but some QvL like Asus one not updated like Gigabyte, have to wait and see.For my mobo, its here. http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AX37...-10#support-doc btw your GSkill Ripjaws 8GB DDR4-2800 is now running stable at 2666mhz? |
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Jul 3 2017, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 3 2017, 02:12 PM) Cant even OC at all. Just running at stock DDR4-2133. dam, need wait for BIOS update lo. read that Ryzen love fast ram but only significant if with GTX 1080 above, but still alot of ppl recommend to DDR4-2666 at least.with midrange GPU DDR4-2666 should be good enough? or even DDR4-2133? i think the FPS increase not as much as compared to GTX 1080/1080ti with DDR4-3000 or DDR4-3200. |
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Jul 16 2017, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(kcsummer @ Jul 16 2017, 08:05 AM) Please critique this build! at R7 1700 price why not got i7-7700? cheaper, got iGPU, and better in games if you mainly for gaming.Budget: 10K Use: AAA games (tomb raider, witcher 3 etc) in high/ultra setting in 1440p, movies, web. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 MOBO: ASUS ROG STRIX B350-F Gaming RAM: GSKill TridentZ RGB 2x8GB DDR4 3200mhz GPU: GTX1070 FTW2 ICX PSU: FSP Hydro G 650W 80+ Gold PSU SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD HDD: Seagate 1TB Barracuda HDD CASE: Fractal Design Define C or NZXT s340 MONITOR: Dell U2715H Keyboard: CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro L Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite FSP Hydro G 650W is tier one psu, should be good. HDD suggest WD Blue instead of Seagate. |
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Jul 16 2017, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 16 2017, 04:31 PM) i7-7700? Yeah, a bit better on gaming but lose 4 core, 8 threads and its multiplier locked. Ryzen 7 1700 can pump 20% OC at stock voltage easily. what AAA games use more than 4 cores though? 144Hz gaming better with 7700k. Hydro G is not tier 1 https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048...r-list-updated/ if only gaming and not high refresh rate, Ryzen 1600 better value. if mainly workstation productivity then 1700 better. assuming it is idealtech price: 1700: RM 3197 http://idealtech.com.my/store/builder/show...serial=0OT6F1PQ 7700K: RM 3142 with CRYORIG H7, TridentZ RGB 2x8GB DDR4 3200mhz (CL16), and ASUS PRIME Z270M-PLUS http://idealtech.com.my/store/builder/show...serial=0OT6EWBC tier 2 still fine to use, if SuperFlower has no stock. This post has been edited by svfn: Jul 16 2017, 05:26 PM |
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Jul 16 2017, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 16 2017, 05:56 PM) Increasing number of games. Infact, Ryzen 7 1700 is silky smooth. My old i7-4790K has some stutters. i7-7700K may not get you 100+ FPS too. On top of that, 1440p. i don't favor either, would personally go 1600 for best value sweet spot. it is up to TS to decide what he does with his PC. but fair enough i guess, for 1080p 144Hz 7700k better, but 1440p not much difference.http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ry...iew,5009-3.html https://www.techspot.com/products/processor...ket-am4.162463/ Oh, enjoy cooking that i7-7700K when it heats up. By the way, I favor Intel but not this generation. btw would you choose 1080ti with I7-7700k vs 1080ti with 1700? for more than 60FPS 1440P. This post has been edited by svfn: Jul 16 2017, 06:21 PM |
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Jul 16 2017, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(kcsummer @ Jul 16 2017, 08:05 AM) Please critique this build! what about this if you are purely gaming fcoused: http://idealtech.com.my/store/builder/show...serial=0OT6TGJPBudget: 10K Use: AAA games (tomb raider, witcher 3 etc) in high/ultra setting in 1440p, movies, web. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 MOBO: ASUS ROG STRIX B350-F Gaming RAM: GSKill TridentZ RGB 2x8GB DDR4 3200mhz GPU: GTX1070 FTW2 ICX PSU: FSP Hydro G 650W 80+ Gold PSU SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD HDD: Seagate 1TB Barracuda HDD CASE: Fractal Design Define C or NZXT s340 MONITOR: Dell U2715H Keyboard: CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro L Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite total (after rebates): RM 10814 (if GTX 1080 FTW2 then RM10014) AMD Ryzen 5 1600 + Wraith Spire - 1039 ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS (ATX/4x3200Mhz/Crossfire/2x M.2/6X Sata3/RGB Header) - 533 or ASUS PRIME B350M-A for RM 445 GSkill Flare X 2X8GB DDR4 3200mhz (F4-3200C14D-16GFX) Black (14-14-14-34) - 899 EVGA GTX1080TI FTW3 Gaming ICX 11GB DDR5X 256BIT (1683/11000) - 4299 FSP Hydro G 650W - 499 Fractal Design Define C (ATX/ Window) - 399 SAMSUNG 850 EVO 250GB V-NAND (540/520) - 509 WD 1TB Caviar Blue 7200RPM/64MB-PROMOTION! - 219 DELL 27" U2715H - 2099 COOLERMASTER Masterkeys Pro L - 569 Razer DeathAdder Elite - no price listed |
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Dec 6 2020, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Dec 6 2020, 02:23 PM) cm mwe 650 full modular goldRM339 jalan boh i read on the PSU tier list that "Cooler Master MWE V2 units have high ripple issues on very low load also resulting in increased coil whine, fix pending."MWE V2 has 230V and full range version, i am not sure if the above issue has been fixed? or is it minor issue. does it also affect MWE V2 Gold? QUOTE(Cold|Drawn @ Dec 6 2020, 01:52 PM) getting a B550 AM4 is still better than intel's H410/B460 boards though true haha, H410 also cost about RM250 and too basic, 2 USB 3.1 on back, only 1 fan header, 4 SATA and some no M.2. good B460s are slightly more expensive than B450, better features but still capped RAM.well at least in later years can still upgrade 2nd hand 5600X - 5900X, cpu and ram oc all available whereas buying H410/B460 is like buying a console even if you upgrade i7-i9, cpu and ram clocks are capped unless you get a Z490 board, but again might as well go straight to Zen3 route if got that kind of budget does anyone know if B550M Pro4 still has USB disconnect issue or latest BIOS fixed it? |
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Dec 6 2020, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 6 2020, 04:19 PM) Seems like it only affects the 550W version, for some reason: interesting, thanks a lot for digging these up http://members.cybenetics.report:5050/d/cybenetics_Jv8.pdf Even at low loads 86.3mV should be fine, as Intel's specification of the maximum +12V power ripple is 120mV  The 650W seems to be unaffected though: http://members.cybenetics.report:5050/d/cybenetics_bhR.pdf Also, it seems like the full input voltage version of the MWE v2 has been EOL'ed (only the 230V variants are available) myway1985 The MWE Gold is unaffected by this issue, however  http://members.cybenetics.report:5050/d/cybenetics_MLB.pdf Too bad the local PSU choices are pretty terrible; either we get crappy group regulated units (FSP), or the good ones tend to be overpriced or just not available   yeah i guess the fully modular gold or equivalent with longer warranties are worth the investment. |
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Dec 7 2020, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(diehard1979 @ Dec 7 2020, 07:59 PM) Want to ask you all, TECWARE NEXUS C is a good casing? Mesh front will have better airflow. TECWARE NEXUS C, from the picture, front fan only support 2 x 120mm, so no active airflow over HDD cage. Also only 1 USB 3 in front. The airflow ok? Why it is cheap price but able to give 2 front fan, 1 rear fan while cooler master price range in RM199-RM240 most time only 1 fan/2 fan only? Cooler master got better quality material and airflow compare to tecware? Build quality can be different depending on manufacturer and model, small design details like cable routing tie-down points, rubber grommets, captive thumbscrews, tooless storage installation, dust filters (a lot tend to cut corners with bottom filter), front IO layout. Stock fans may not always be as quiet as your aftermarket fans, if you are picky about noise. Depending on the case, CM tend to cheap out also, like in bottom dust filter in some cases. If you clean your PC regularly then the experience is different  |
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Dec 7 2020, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(diehard1979 @ Dec 7 2020, 09:34 PM) How about CM NR400 case? yeah mATX version is actually better than ATX because the drive cage is removable/movable, unless our NR600 stock is updated one. this is MATX, I use MSI B460M Mortar wifi. This one I check review, airflow should be ok but some may say not that quite. yeah the mesh is thin because it acts as dust filter also, if you touch it the mesh can 'move' a little. 4 x 2.5" and 3 x 3.5", that's a lot! more than 6 SATA on mATX, but the HDD cage might be a tight fit due to connectors and PSU cable routing. ODD version is quite suitable for compact media server since can plug 4 SSD in a HDD rack in that 5.25 bay = 10 to 12 disks, if you manage to route them cables  worst is the bottom filter is flimsy. and there is a hole on the bottom for pulling out the front panel, so better to use positive pressure (more intake than exhaust) to reduce dust. maybe you can consider also Lancool 215 / 275R Airflow / Tecware Forge S. |
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Dec 7 2020, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(diehard1979 @ Dec 7 2020, 10:10 PM) I hope can get about RM180-RM240 price for casing. P300A or TECWARE FORGE M? P300A don't have mATX version i think. seems like Tecware very bang for buck but the quality i am not sure, maybe someone who have used it can comment.No need RGB, good airflow more important. Sound not that loud. |
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Dec 7 2020, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(Cold|Drawn @ Dec 7 2020, 11:05 PM) Tbh, tecware forge m feels very filmsy for me. The sheets are very thin, but at that price hard to complain. Especially when they give 3 fans. most budget users don't use AIO i guess. yeah most budget cases have some shortcomings, but is expected at that price point. I have the P300A, my gripe with that casing is... it only has 140mm top opening, which I didn’t care when initially. But until I want to install AIO, then I have no choice but to front mount the rad. Which forces me to buy new case since the rad ate into the GPU clearance. Also, if you buy the non aRGB version, it only comes with 1x 120mm rear fan. Otherwise the quality of P300A is sturdier. Honestly, if you have extra budget. Go for the Lian Li Lancool 215. Already comes with 2x 200mm front fan and 1x 120mm fan. Can top mount 240/280mm rad (have to check 280 can’t remember precisely). Can also mount 2x 120mm fan on PSU shroud to cool GPU. Airflow for bottom fans come from front fan though since there’s no perforation on the sides. yea Lancool 215 is the best at that price point if diehard1979 doesn't mind the larger size and top up extra. tbh mATX cases are not much smaller, and the extra area below the GPU is good for airflow. 200mm fan will also be quieter than 120mm because lower max RPM, i am using CM693 with (200mm fan) just beside me, and i don't hear it unless put your face next to the case. |
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Dec 8 2020, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(diehard1979 @ Dec 8 2020, 06:15 PM) I just use intel 10400f , msi mortar b460m wifi then gtx 1660 super gigabyte 3 fan. should be enough space even with fans in front. if you don't mind the size, ATX will let you have more options and easier to cable manage due to larger space.I considering CM NR400 RM239 or CM MasterBox K501L RGB Fan + TG RM199. GPU about 280mm , for NR400 346mm space for GPU. For Masterbox K501L 410mm for GPU. Will NR400 which 346mm will be too small space left after install the gpu? Will airflow from bottom hard to go top? |
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Apr 24 2021, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 24 2021, 01:33 PM) seriously, i can't find any alternative (atx board) at that budget. ASrock Steel Legend B560 VRMs are not bad this time. just don't get their low end Z590 or itx. can see what VRM they used here.https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/msi_m...i_review,6.html  Skylinestar liked this post
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Nov 26 2021, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Violetist @ Nov 26 2021, 07:57 PM) I was hoping to build a quiet PC so I chose the PSU becasue of its semi-passive operation, plus I don't mind paying more for quality. Not interested in consoles, PC gaming all the way Go ahead then, it is more than good enough to do the job with a GTX 970 if you are going to use it for a while. If you find a good price now just go instead of keep waiting for the next gen. New gen doesn't mean last gen suddenly useless or obsolete, latest gen will be top for at best 1 year and then again replaced by next gen. I'm seriously considering an upgrade to i5, not sure if it's worth the wait till January for Alder Lake i5 (or even i3) though? From what I read, if the CPU-Z benchmarks are correct the i5-12400F is about 15% faster than i5-11400F at 20% higher cost. That's OK but then I wonder if B660 motherboards will be more expensive than B560, not to mention stock issues or price hikes... I got no plans to upgrade my PC in the future and my cousin was ok with giving his spare GTX 970 to me for free, so I decided I'm gonna use it for a while. If you must have the top and best and don't mind the prices of B660 then wait. B660 might be more expensive at launch, but there are always budget models, still most ppl like to wait for reviews etc, and new stock usually sell out fast so you may even have to wait longer. |
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Feb 10 2025, 05:50 PM
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Hi, WTA on behalf of my cousin for RTX 5080 rig at around 10k budget PC only without monitor, which current AMD gen is best for gaming?
Is 1000W PSU enough? can't find ATX 3.1 1000W on idealtech. Prefer idealtech builder as want ready prebuilt but can consider others. QUOTE AMD Ryzen Processor: [FOR PC ONLY]AMD RYZEN 7 9800X3D | RM 2299 Cooler: Thermalright PEERLESS ASSASSIN 120 SE ARGB | RM 159 Motherboard (AMD): MSI PRO X870-P WIFI | RM 1549 RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z5 Royal 2x16GB DDR5 6400Mhz [F5-6400J3039G16GX2-TR5NS] | RM 799 Graphic Card: [PRE-ORDER]Palit GeForce RTX5080 GamingPro 16GB DDR7 | RM 5499 PowerSupplyUnit (PSU): SEASONIC Vertex GX-1000 ATX3.0 Gold | RM 1235 Case: LIANLI LANCOOL 216 WHITE ARGB | RM 479 SSD: Kingston KC3000 PCIE 4.0 NVME SSD SKC3000D 2TB | RM 699 Total: RM 12768 Discount: RM 50 Grand Total: RM 12718 Any problems with this build? where can I save more? is going down to 7800x3d and a cheaper motherboard still good enough for RTX 5080? for 1440p. This post has been edited by svfn: Feb 10 2025, 07:13 PM |
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