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TristanX
post Sep 13 2023, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(skzzi @ Sep 12 2023, 10:39 PM)
Need suggestion for a gaming rig. Finally got some table space for myself, time to build a proper rig. Been playing out of laptop.

Budget ard 15k.

With the budget, wanna try to get a 4090 gpu if possible.
I browse around pc builder around pj/subang area. They have some options but like to hear whats the best cpu combo to 4090.
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Core i9-13900K - 2728
Corsair H170i Elite Capellix - 868
MSI Z790 Tomahawk DDR5 - 1448
Colorful Icicle 32GB DDR5-6600 CL34 - 579
PNY RTX 4090 Verto - 7739
Kingston KC3000 2TB - 528
Corsair RM1200x Shift - 1099
Lian Li Lancool III case - 539

RM15528 total
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post Sep 13 2023, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Sep 13 2023, 10:46 AM)
https://youtu.be/Qa4A12gQTHw?si=w_-G5kX9zv6khnYJ

read this review ya

i9-13900KF
z790 tomahawk wifi D5  RM4,099.00
32gb 6600mhz colorful cvn  RM579.00
1tb kc3000  RM310.00
iGame GeForce RTX 4090 VULCAN OC-V (RM100 rebate until 30 sept)  RM8,699.00
1st player NGDP 1300 Platinum (10yr warranty)  RM919.00
thermalright notte black 360 argb  RM469.00
1st player SP9 (with 7 fans)  RM450.00


  RM15,525.00

aquarium.. frameless type
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This one better.



At 15k budget, don't bother with F CPUs. You lose backup GPU and Intel Quick Sync.

QUOTE(skzzi @ Sep 13 2023, 11:52 AM)
Noted, thanks!!
Thanks for the inputs.  I wont be OCing at all. Dont have the mind for it 😆. Just need it to function as it is.
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Just get 13700K and 13900K with more than enough cooling. Removing power limit on the BIOS (its removed by default for most big brand boards) will allow the CPU to overclock itself.

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post Sep 14 2023, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(jvilous @ Sep 14 2023, 07:59 PM)
Hi Sifus, I have seem to encounter some problems when I was setting up the PC, everything was going fine, I was able to boot into Windows 11, but when I was updating windows, it suddenly crashed and gave a BSoD.

Before I installed Windows, I did update the Bios that was downloaded from the MSI website to my thumbdrive.

After it rebooted, it only can be rebooted into the Bios, and to my surprise my M.2 drive is shows as "Not Present"  cry.gif

Did I break something? Is there anyways to fix it?

My PC specs are exactly what Tristan recommended except for the CPU which I changed to i5-12400 and the M.2 I changed to 512gb variant.

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I hope you did not touch the chips with your fingers before discharging possible static electricity on some metal. Try reinstalling the M.2 SSD again. Also, test it on any SATA disk and see if it crashes. If it doesn't then M.2 SSD might have issues.


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post Sep 15 2023, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(jvilous @ Sep 15 2023, 02:02 AM)
I tried switching my old M.2 drive from my current PC to the new PC, and it boots up just fine, with the same background, configuration everything.

And I tried inserting the new M.2 drive to the extra M.2 slot in my current PC's motherboard, and when I booted it up, "Disk Management" can't seem to locate the new M.2 drive...
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Since your old m2 works perfectly, that KC3000 faulty.

Also, get m2 heatsink.
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post Sep 15 2023, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(jvilous @ Sep 15 2023, 02:02 AM)
I tried switching my old M.2 drive from my current PC to the new PC, and it boots up just fine, with the same background, configuration everything.

And I tried inserting the new M.2 drive to the extra M.2 slot in my current PC's motherboard, and when I booted it up, "Disk Management" can't seem to locate the new M.2 drive...
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QUOTE(jvilous @ Sep 15 2023, 11:15 AM)
I contacted the shopee seller for a refund or RMA, he queried that my motherboard only supports a max of gen3 m.2 ssd while kingston kc3000 is gen4 m.2 sdd, but I told him shouldn't be a problem right? the drive should work as usual just that the speed will be capped at gen3 speeds

Thanks for the advice on the heatsink, is any brand or type of heatsink ok? or there are good and bad ones
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Try going to the BIOS and manually cap it to Gen3.

M.2 heatsink?
https://shp.ee/6rasnfs
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post Sep 19 2023, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(5zal06 @ Sep 19 2023, 02:52 PM)
hw about
rog strix b760-f (wanted a but plan for black build)
i5 i13400
rtx 4070 ti
850w psu
thermaltake aio
ram 8gbx2
m.2 1 or 2 tb
hdd 4tb

arnd almost 10k
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Sep 19 2023, 06:53 PM)
Mind sharing why you would want to pay the Asus tax on that mobo? At a Rm1500 it is as costly as some Z790 mobos. Unless you need lots M2 slots, you can do with MSI Pro B760M-A (heck for a 13400, even the inferior -E could do fine).

AIO (esp w/ ARGB) does look nice but for work PC ur might want to get air coolers for long term reliability. And for a 13400, Thermalright PA120/PS120 is more than enough. If on a budget even basic coolers like SE224XT/XTS will done just fine.

RAMs you could go with Kingston Beast or Corsair Vengeance clocked to 2400MHZ JEDEC. Most of these have 4000+ XMP that you can turn on but I doubt ur workflow needs that higher speeds vs any XMP issues.

A good A tier 850W PSU will do fine for that 4070Ti but if ur planning future GPU upgrades better to get a 900/1000W unit.

@Myway @TristanX any recos for OP here?
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Some overpriced stuffs. Go for these instead.

Core i5-12600K (better than i5-13400) - 929 (promo)
EK AIO 360 basic + LGA 1700 kit - 378 + 19
MSI Z790-P DDR4 - 998
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast 32GB DDR4-3600 kit - 359
MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio - 5089
Kingston KC3000 2TB - 529
Seagate 2TB - 249
Corsair RM1000x Shift - 895
Lian Li Lancool III case - 539

RM9984 total (Shopee prices)
 
QUOTE(LiiCh @ Sep 19 2023, 05:15 PM)
[B][Budget]
RM6K

[Purpose]
Gaming @ 1440P

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
PC case (NZXT H9 FLOW), Case fans, Monitor

[Monitor resolution]
27" 1440P 144HZ

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Elden Ring, Armored Core 6, Frostpunk, Baldur Gate 3, Dota2, mostly single player RPG

[Personal preferences]
All WHITE, Wi-Fi enable.

[Location]
Ipoh
Thank you to all the SIFUS in advance.
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Core i5-12600K (better than i5-13400) - 929 (promo)
Thermalright Frost Commander 140 - 259
Colorful Z690M Gaming Frozen - 949
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast 32GB DDR4-3600 kit - 359
Sapphire RX 7800 XT - 2799
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 300
NZXT C750 - 519

RM6114 total (Shopee prices)

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post Sep 24 2023, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(Kanc3 @ Sep 23 2023, 12:19 AM)
Hi to all sifu, looking for any recommendation  rclxm9.gif
Budget : around 12k

Purpose : 3D modeling for game and cinematic, play game sometime

Hardwares that will be re-use: No

Monitor resolution : 2k 27"

Games & softwares that use frequently : some AAA game, Zbrush, Maya, Substance painter and unreal engine

Personal preferences : 1Tb ssd, 1 or 2tb hdd, 32ram, need more than 16 core cpu, gpu 12gb vram...

Location : KL & Selangor
Dont have any brand in mind at the moments, feel free to open for any brand and suggestion where to buy  rclxm9.gif  planning to build next year
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Sep 26 2023, 06:36 PM)
actually i need it..for work..

im just proposing to my company..
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Sep 26 2023, 06:40 PM)
if u think the budget its enug.. think again

Dell 32 4K UHD Gaming Monitor - G3223Q  RM2,199.00
i7-13700KF  RM1,799.00
z790 tomahawk d4  RM1,550.00
32GB 3600mhz kingston fury beast  RM340.00
1TB kc3000  RM300.00
Colorful igame RTX 4090 advanced  RM8,400.00
1300w 1st player NGDP platinum psu  RM919.00
thermalright FC140  RM269.00
Lancool III non rgb  RM559.00

  RM16,335.00
DELL S2721DGF DFO QHD 165hz  RM959.00
i7-13700KF  RM1,799.00
Z790 MSI A  RM1,299.00
32GB 3600mhz kingston fury beast  RM340.00
1TB kc3000  RM300.00
Colorful  RTX 4070NB  RM2,959.00
1st player steampunk 850w gold  RM399.00
thermalright FC140  RM269.00
Azza Hive 450m  RM269.00

  RM8,593.00
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There is Deepcool Assassin IV if you wanna deal with heavy cooler. Gotta be careful moving it though.

RM10k+ rig still DDR4... Go for DDR5 since mobo is the same price. Colorful Icicle 32GB DDR5-6600 CL34 at RM579.
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Sep 26 2023, 07:31 PM)
4090 is not in my plan cuz of the potential infamous issue
AK620 is more than good enough right?
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13th gen K CPUs loves cooling. The more you give, you get more turbo.

Thermalright is better. Try

Core i7-13700K or i9-13900K - 1859 / 2698
Thermalright Frost Commander 140 or Deepcool Assassin IV - 259 / 429
MSI Z790 Tomahawk DDR5 - 1489
Colorful Icicle 32GB DDR5-6600 CL34 - 579
MSI RTX 4080 16GB Gaming X Trio - 5089
Kingston KC3000 2TB - 529
Corsair RM1200x Shift - 1099
Lian Li Lancool III case - 530

RM11433 total (Shopee prices) for i7-13700K + FC140, RM12422 for i9-13900K + DA IV

Monitor buy from myway.

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Sep 26 2023, 07:55 PM)
u forget at msi tier 4 in vrm??
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Colorful Advanced better. Can fit into budget anyway.
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QUOTE(Cyclone1 @ Sep 26 2023, 08:25 AM)
Not really an PC enthusiast but I do value problem-free part hahaha
As long as the new PC will last me 5-10 years, even I have to play 50-60fps, I'm a happy man
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More than 5 years is tough when it comes to performance. Lets hope game developers stop pushing the graphics too hard since making more powerful GPU is getting harder and more expensive due to physical limitations.
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QUOTE(illustriousry @ Sep 28 2023, 12:48 AM)
At this point, is 6700xt or 7800xt more worth it with malaysian pricing?

My PC specs i5-12400, MWE Gold v2 650w. 16gb Ram. Want to play games at 1440p high settings hmm.
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1440p is demanding already. Go for 7800 XT. Watch the prices. Local prices not cheap.
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Sep 28 2023, 03:29 PM)
Why not a 4070 though?  DLSS is a pretty good feature to have, and it's very power efficient hmm.gif
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12GB is still a letdown for almost RM3k card.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 5 2023, 07:49 AM)
If you can.

Stretch it out abit and get a 12gb vRam 4070 or 16gb 4060ti. Since you plan to use long time.

Games now a days utilise vram like water
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4060 Ti 16GB is trash for the price.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 5 2023, 10:33 AM)
That is his choice.

Just give him advice regarding vram size.
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His choice or not still garbage recommendation. 1440p card pricing and gets stomped.

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-rade...7800-xt/32.html
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 5 2023, 07:54 PM)
It depends.

For AI not Adobe. The large vram size is a budget training machine.

However for his choice of 4060 might as well get the 4060ti. The extra vram size does help with games fps and with low budget. Just game with 1080p. Liek me

In the end. His choice. Just letting him know since he only mentions Nvidia and AMD Radeon the drivers...
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I only see gaming from him. Not once I see anything about "AI". Stop recommending crap. 4060 Ti 16GB is not worth it. Get something better. Already showed the charts.
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 6 2023, 07:04 AM)
When budget is the constrain, so valled crap is the best you can get.

Their maneh their choice and as I said.

He always reference nvidia so nvidia it is.

Worth or not is on the one who is purchasing.

AMD radeon has crap integration with Windows and drivers.

Give and take.

And I already know some here will recommend AMD radeon. I am just recommending Nvidia with choice with his budget.
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Budget not an issue with tweaks. Can fit 4070 or 3080 12GB.

What makes you think Nvidia doesn't have issues?
https://youtu.be/JLEIJhunaW8?si=MuuszRbKvE21C14J
https://youtu.be/G03fzsYUNDU?si=Y2ZwQGIhMxbU-WW0

As someone using both Radeon and Nvidia right now , no driver issue.
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QUOTE(AlexZai123 @ Oct 6 2023, 10:44 AM)
Guys, my friend's PC died and he's on budget, just seeking your opinion if my suggested option is viable?

CPU: Ryzen 5600 - RM528
MOBO: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI - RM489
RAM: Kingston FURY 3200 8GB*2 - RM210
SSD: Kingston KC3000 1TB - RM299
Casing: ASUS AP201 (he likes this a lot) - RM348
Cooler: DeepCool AG400 - RM125

Total: 1999

GPU and PSU he will reuse existing.
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No complaints there. RAM is expensive. You can get at least RM30 cheaper.

QUOTE(sleyer @ Oct 6 2023, 11:34 AM)
hai,

any sales on kc3000 ??   my storage almost full..
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KC3000 still highly recommended today.

QUOTE(eddydo @ Oct 6 2023, 11:54 AM)
Hey guys, looking for new pc build

[B][Budget] +/- 5k, and another at +/-7k

[Purpose] both music production (studio use) & video editing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] nil

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently] reaper, and video editing software

[Personal preferences]

[Location] KL
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Core i7-13700K - 1859
EK AIO 360 Basic + LGA 1700 kit - 378 + 19
MSI Z790-P Wifi DDR4 - 998
Kingston HyperX Fury Beast 32GB DDR4-3600 kit - 355
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 299
NZXT C650 - 477
Lian Li Lancool III case - 535

RM4920 total (Shopee prices)

Optional:
Core i9-13900K - 2628
Corsair H170i Elite Capellix (for cooling 13900K) - 859
Creative Sound Blaster AE-9 - 1490 ( https://my.creative.com/p/sound-blaster/sound-blaster-ae-9 )

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QUOTE(eddydo @ Oct 7 2023, 12:19 PM)
Thanks. Noticed the build have no graphics card.
Graphics card not required for video editing?
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Yeah, built-in is sufficient. Intel Quick Sync is overpowered too.

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