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myway1985
post Jul 27 2019, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(eternity4av @ Jul 27 2019, 01:25 PM)
thanks tristanx senior, how long do you think this specs can last? 6 years?
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processor yes but rx 580 last u another 2 yr mayb... but see how heavy the usage.. mayb 3 4 yrs if light
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post Jul 27 2019, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Tuyin @ Jul 27 2019, 10:37 PM)
Hello to all sifus.

Was thinking of building a gaming PC.
Budget is around Rm10000.

Must include the newly launched RTX 2080 super.

Any recommendation?

Thanks.
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ryzen 9 3900x
MSI X570 ace (free cm 240 AIO worth RM419)
16GB DDR4 3600mhz trident Z
aorus rtx 2080 super
1TB transcend NVME
850W TT tough power
CM H500P

RM9942
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post Jul 27 2019, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Tuyin @ Jul 27 2019, 11:11 PM)
Thanks sifu.
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lol.. i send u another spec oso wat
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post Jul 27 2019, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 27 2019, 10:55 PM)
Case already suggested. Unless you want bling bling.

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X - 2199
Corsair H115i Pro - 669
Asus ROG Strix X570-F Gaming - 1439
G.Skill TridentZ (AMD) 16GB DDR4-3200 kit - 549
Zotac RTX 2080 Super 8GB DDR6 AMP! - 3399 (from Shopee)
Adata SX8200 Pro 1TB - 659
Seagate 2TB - 255
Corsair HX 750W - 599
Thermaltake Level 20 XT case - 899

RM10667 total (C-Zone prices)

Balance you can customize whatever you want. Adata SX8200 Pro stomps Transcend. Remember to haggle prices with them. C-Zone prices are higher.
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bro... trident Z is 3600mhz the ryzen n threadripper 1

DDR4 Enhanced Performance Series - AMD Ryzen & Ryzen Threadripper (RGB)
PC4-28800 / DDR4 3600 Mhz 2 x 8GB 18-22-22-42 1.35V TZ RGB F4-3600C18D-16GTZRX


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post Jul 27 2019, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 27 2019, 11:48 PM)
Sorry, typo. Yes, it is 3600.
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6 months ago we complaint ryzen got problem wif 3200mhz ram.. now they hv 3600mhz compatible de ..haha..
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post Jul 28 2019, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(paletteLIFE @ Jul 28 2019, 06:07 AM)
Long story short, I have just bought most of the PC components, except GPU. Not sure to go for RX580 or RX5700XT for 1080p gaming. Worth extra money for RX5700XT? Also regret a bit now...

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
MOBO: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 
GPU: ??
RAM: G.Skill Aegis 16GB 2 x 8GB DDR4-3000 PC4-24000 CL16
SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
PSU: Corsair CX650M 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze
CASE: NZXT H500
WIFI: ASUS PCE-AC55BT 
Monitor: AOC C24G1 144 Hz Monitor
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5700xt rm1850... big jump from rx580
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post Jul 28 2019, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 28 2019, 12:17 AM)
Not with G.Skill. My G.Skill Flare X 16GB DDR4-3200 CL14 no issue on any motherboard.
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Emm.. hvnt try tat.. mostly client wan trident Z, predator rgb,

Hyper x fury oso less issue but ugly lo
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post Jul 29 2019, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(tinmilo @ Jul 29 2019, 02:03 PM)
morning taiko2..

simple soalan, how many core(s) should get?
planning to upgrade from Core i5 4670 3.4 Ghz to Ryzen 3rd gen.

used 3 monitor setup (maybe add one more) regularly used for fx trading, word & excel datasheet and lite coding..basic used like browsing, utube/watch streaming and music during other works..can u guys tolong suggest me ?

plan to get 16gb ram with gtx 1660ti or RX 580/Vega 64/RX 5700.

Thanks!!
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now mainstream is 6cores de..

u can get ryzen 5 3600
x570 mobo
16gb 3600mhz trident Z ryzen
rx 580 8gb (new or used oso nvm, recycle ur old gpu oso can)
650W gold 80plus
512GB nvme ssd
any atx casing will do
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post Jul 29 2019, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(tinmilo @ Jul 29 2019, 02:31 PM)
yes boss..i'll go for 3600 ryzen i think..with MSI B450M Mortar mobo as the casing still new..matx Fractal Meshify Mini C
old gpu is too old  sad.gif  sad.gif  zotac gtx 760 with blower type ..gonna get new one so that not botolneck..

Thanks for the help/suggestion...
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suka hati u ma.. i duno how heavy ur usage so i normally quote the latest 1.. i had client wan the x570 becoz the pcie 4x4 ssd lane only
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post Jul 29 2019, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 29 2019, 02:13 PM)
X570 for Ryzen 5 3600. Overkill much?
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normally i suggest lastest 1.. coz dunno usage ma.. latest spec always giv us room to adjust while u quote lower spec then ask client to up budget more susah.. rclxm9.gif

i had client put 2700x on x570 msi ace.. becoz he wan the pcie 4 x 4.. bruce.gif

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post Jul 30 2019, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(the_powerbank @ Jul 30 2019, 08:58 PM)
Are NZXT cases sold in Malaysian retail shops? Especially the H500
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rextech got
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post Jul 30 2019, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Jul 30 2019, 08:12 PM)
Kristal recommended me before:

CPU: AMD RYZEN 5 3600 RM859.00
MOBO: ASROCK Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 ATX RM365.00
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z AMD RGB 16GB (2X8GB) 3600MHz RM499.00
GPU: GALAX GeForce® RTX 2060 6GB RM1,279.00
SSD: ADATA XPG SX8200 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 512GB RM329.00
PSU: SUPER FLOWER Leadex 550W 80+ Gold Fully Modular RM379.00
CASE: TECWARE Nexus Evo ARGB TG RM185.00

Should be ok right?
Thinking of approaching dotatech but heard review after sales like not ok je? Would like them to build it for me cause i dunno lol
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1. would recommend u up budget bit n go for msi, gigabyte or zotac those gpu, galax only the HOF good in cooling

2. transcend SSD hv better endurance than adata.. can find tat oso.. i got 3 client rma the same above model.. within 6 months.. ssd health drop below 85%

3. SF leadex memang good but dotatech isnt famous for their cable management le.. so u might wan to consider other builder if u wan to use full modular psu..
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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Jul 30 2019, 01:56 PM)
but, limited stock in Penang..
A few only carry Rx 570 / 580 / 590
so far, can find Asus rx570 expedition, Rx570 strix, rx570 armor oc
and I have budget allocation of less than 600 bucks
I personally trust, Asus / msi,
Boycott sapphire, power color, leadtek, colorful & geil..
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well.. i would rather u trust msi, sapphire than asus.. rma sux (almost to the level of shit in north & east coast)

msi rx 570 armor 4gb RM550 only but not sure ngam ur or not
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post Jul 30 2019, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Jul 30 2019, 10:28 PM)
1. Alamak the budget cannot up already
this one i asked for 3.5k
I even wish could spend 3k only for rig.
Cause i dont have monitor etc yet
First pc , can say like that
Is it really that bad till not recommended?

2. Ohh i didnt know cause I myself dont know anything about IT stuffs or rig building. This one also other people recommended but good to know but im not sure if any other shop have everything needed?

3. Want to ask who? Die already trying to find reputable builder that can be trusted. At first i want to go gtx solution, then people said better find those long time established, then they said idealtech. Picked already build then said not ngam also they not many brands to choose from and abit expensive. Then recommended dotatech also not good enough. U know anyone? I also opt for shop cause in case need to do cleaning just ask them hehe
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Gtx solution not bad.. just the cable management not top notch..rextech oso not bad.. idealtech for bangsawan lo.. u pay for the service.. they hv onsite pick up for certain place...other than tat.. all pretty normal

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post Jul 30 2019, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 30 2019, 10:46 PM)
SSD write too much reduces health as well. You won't know what your customer do. Better "endurance" but could be significantly slower. My expectation for NvME drive is high. Even with seconds.

Transcend new SSDs reviews are non existant. Cant trust them. Those halfass reivews does not count.
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My client use it for commercial use.. so far none complaint.. a better replacement for Toshitba nvme..

Transcend is 200mb write/read slower than adata..acceptable lo.. i talking about 30tb transfer rate per week.. my e.u those designer firm
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post Jul 31 2019, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 30 2019, 10:59 PM)
Like I said. Write a lot. Should focus on TBW.

I dont think its just 200MB. It is already patting Samsung 970 Pro's back.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/adata-sx8200-pro-1-tb/
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Bro, 512 n 1tb is different world de.. 512gb like super car while 1tb is semi d.. it should on par samsung becoz Samsung hv not hv any new development in ssd since 970 evo plus wat..

https://www.transcend-info.com/Products/No-991

http://www.xpg.com/adata/upload/image/warr..._TBW_Search.pdf

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post Jul 31 2019, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 31 2019, 08:34 AM)
Spec alone does not tell you the whole story. Real world is.
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mayb hv to sell some 1tb then only will know lo.. i anti xpg 512GB liao.. kena 3 case within 6 months enuf de.. i sell 5 biji n kena 3.. tat is 60% for me .. bad luck bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Jul 31 2019, 09:40 AM)
1. Not true. I've used Galax GTX 1060 EXOC and using Galax GTX 1070 EXOC, temps is only around 73c. Also using a Galax GTX 1070Ti HoF and temps is around 70c.

2. Using my SX8200 Pro for half a year now. No problem so far and health still 100%.
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Do u know tat is high for 1060? My 1060 blower only 70 when play games..

Dun stress ur xpg... high intensity transfer rate kill it
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 31 2019, 09:56 AM)
I'll let you know if my 1TB dies. Got heatsink installed. I might add another one on top of it too.
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Oh ya.. heatsink for nvme... tat could be the reason oso. Coz xpg operating temperature optimum is below 70..
Those branded workstation where got heatsink for nvme 1..
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QUOTE(Kristal.S @ Jul 31 2019, 10:17 AM)
No it is not high for a GTX 1060? Since you're a builder I'm sure you should be aware that the cards can run at a max temp at 94c. 73c is way below the max temp limit. Blower card at 70c? Seems to me your fan speed is at 100%. Mine only around 50% fan speed. Stock fan curve. If manually adjust, can get lower for sure. smile.gif
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I cannot accept a mid range card running at 73 lo...higher than blower lagi.. had u repaste thermal?

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