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post Dec 3 2022, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 3 2022, 08:46 AM)
If you wanna go that far, wait for better ATX 3.0 PSUs. They are not cheap. "Future proof" recommendations is gone because people still feeding the GPU makers at high price. Even with high power consumption.
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How much does this ATX 3.0 PSU cost? My budget for a new PSU is around 1k which can buy about a new 1000W fully modular PSU at the moment sweat.gif

EDIT: This is what I get from Google. If direct conversion the 1000W should cost about 1k here...so add 30% additional..1.3k??

MSRP: PLATINUM EFFICIENCY
VERTEX PX-1200: $ 259.99 / € 309.00
VERTEX PX-1000: $ 219.99 / € 259.00
VERTEX PX-850: $ 189.99 / € 229.00
VERTEX PX-750: $ 169.99 / € 199.00

MSRP: GOLD EFFICIENCY
VERTEX GX-1200: $ 229.99 / € 269.00
VERTEX GX-1000: $ 199,99 / € 239,00
VERTEX GX-850: $ 169,99 / € 199.00
VERTEX GX-750: $ 149,99 / € 179.00

This post has been edited by Duckies: Dec 3 2022, 11:36 AM
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post Dec 3 2022, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Dec 3 2022, 11:27 AM)
How much does this ATX 3.0 PSU cost? My budget for a new PSU is around 1k which can buy about a new 1000W fully modular PSU at the moment sweat.gif

EDIT: This is what I get from Google. If direct conversion the 1000W should cost about 1k here...so add 30% additional..1.3k??

MSRP: PLATINUM EFFICIENCY
VERTEX PX-1200: $ 259.99 / € 309.00
VERTEX PX-1000: $ 219.99 / € 259.00
VERTEX PX-850: $ 189.99 / € 229.00
VERTEX PX-750: $ 169.99 / € 199.00

MSRP: GOLD EFFICIENCY
VERTEX GX-1200: $ 229.99 / € 269.00
VERTEX GX-1000: $ 199,99 / € 239,00
VERTEX GX-850: $ 169,99 / € 199.00
VERTEX GX-750: $ 149,99 / € 179.00
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post Dec 3 2022, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 3 2022, 12:48 AM)
Asking for monitor suggestion on a RIG SUGGESTION thread. Maybe Asus VG249Q. I don't keep track with monitor.

Budget i5 13th isn't out yet. i5-13600K alone already RM1468 with no cooler.
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So 3k rig recommendation will be i5 12th gen? Any good place to check spec build? Some shop they just gv cpu ram GPU info without much other info haha
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post Dec 3 2022, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 2 2022, 12:25 AM)
4k 60FPS with max settings is tough. You have to go with overpriced GPUs and still will not get you there.

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-g...edition/34.html
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Note that if you know how to tweak graphical settings (or use DLSS) you don't really need a monster GPU to run CP2077 at 4K60 icon_idea.gif
It's also worth noting that ultra settings is mostly intended for future hardware and in many cases they may not look significantly better than very high or even high settings:




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post Dec 3 2022, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Dec 1 2022, 04:37 PM)
Currently using ancient i3 2100 system and sadly it decided to give way yesterday...

mainly use for youtubing , e-commerce websites mgmt and also alang2 prepare for Diablo4 next year

Hardware to reuse

display philip 24in ips
PSU FSP Hydro 600w
SSD Crucial MX500 1TB
peripherals all have

have kicimiao budget only..max 1.2k
what can i get guys?

prefer physical shopping and can wait until end this year
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Budget too low for anything decent, unless you want go used parts icon_idea.gif
Might want to wait for official system requirements (or ideally independent benchmarks) instead icon_idea.gif

That being said, it's somewhat doable with APUs (don't expect decent performance though):

Ryzen 5 5600G - RM599
Gigabyte B550M DS3H - RM369
2x8GB DDR4 3200CL16 - RM218 (pick a brand)
-reuse SSD-
-reuse PSU-
-use iGPU-
Tecware Flatline case - RM159
Total: RM1345
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post Dec 3 2022, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Dec 1 2022, 09:12 PM)
if got enough money, double up your budget for GPU. GTX 1660 is too weak for rendering workload. it has zero Optix acceleration due to lack of RT cores, and you will 100% suffer on v-ray, cycles, arnold, or any render engine you can name which supports GPU rendering. sos: experience
you can go for a 3060 Ti. with RT acceleration turned on, v-ray boasts more than 2080 Ti's performance. iirc even CUDA performance is at 2080 Ti level.
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Why not a regular 3060 12GB instead? The bigger VRAM pool may come in handy in certain render work though hmm.gif
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post Dec 3 2022, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 1 2022, 09:30 PM)
Cheapest RTX 3060 Ti can be found at RM1497.
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IINM the OCPC one is rated at only 170W rather than 200W on a standard 3060Ti so might want to spend a bit more on a Manli one instead icon_idea.gif
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post Dec 3 2022, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 3 2022, 04:01 PM)
IINM the OCPC one is rated at only 170W rather than 200W on a standard 3060Ti so might want to spend a bit more on a Manli one instead icon_idea.gif
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You only lose tiny bit of performance. As someone who actually used it, its not a big difference. 11217 vs 11624 on time spy. That's not even using 12900K.

QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Dec 3 2022, 02:17 PM)
So 3k rig recommendation will be i5 12th gen? Any good place to check spec build? Some shop they just gv cpu ram GPU info without much other info haha
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If you can wait 2 months, i5-13400 might be coming out. Comes with extra 4 e-cores.

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post Dec 3 2022, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 3 2022, 03:59 PM)
Why not a regular 3060 12GB instead?  The bigger VRAM pool may come in handy in certain render work though hmm.gif
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bigger VRAM is good if your scene contains high resolution textures, typically 4K textures (and you're not planning to compress them), or contains absurd amount of polys like high sub-d count on your models and stuffs. for CAD workloads definitely CPU-biased thus a high speed CPU like 13600K will perform this job pretty freaking well, but during render (in this case, v-ray), I still believe the amount of RT cores from 3060 Ti does a far better job than 3060 while compromising 4GB VRAM extra from 3060. unless of course, your render really need high res textures and it eats up more than what the 8GB VRAM can provide.

basically the drawback may be 4GB lesser VRAM, but I'd compromise it for a faster render speed from the 3060 Ti because it's too good to pass. such compromise is made because NVIDIA couldn't care enough to improve the VRAM capacity their mid-high end models, and AMD absolutely sucks all-hand on productivity aspect (and AMD also doesn't care about it either).
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 3 2022, 04:11 PM)
If you can wait 2 months, i5-13400 might be coming out. Comes with extra 4 e-cores.
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Need to look at the pricing though, especially if it costs too much compared to the 12400/5600 (especially the latter with cheaper B550 boards) icon_idea.gif
E cores might not be useful if TS intends to game on it especially the rumors seem to indicate that 13400 is essentially a detuned 12600K (which itself isn't bad if the performance is good enough) icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 3 2022, 04:11 PM)
You only lose tiny bit of performance. As someone who actually used it, its not a big difference. 11217 vs 11624 on time spy. That's not even using 12900K.
If you can wait 2 months, i5-13400 might be coming out. Comes with extra 4 e-cores.
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OK.. Probably next year for the 13400 lol..
Perhaps the price for GPU etc drop further

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post Dec 5 2022, 03:13 PM

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i7-12700kf cpu
asus z690 pro-a motherboard
colorful 3070ti ultra gpu
plus 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, aio cpu cooler, 750w gold grade power supply, 7 extra rgb fans, casing

guys, what are the reasonable price for used pc above? i want to purchase from my fren. he upgrading.
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QUOTE(NyD-WiLL @ Dec 5 2022, 03:13 PM)
i7-12700kf cpu
asus z690 pro-a motherboard
colorful 3070ti ultra gpu
plus 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, aio cpu cooler, 750w gold grade power supply, 7 extra rgb fans, casing

guys, what are the reasonable price for used pc above? i want to purchase from my fren. he upgrading.
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This is not second hand thread. Make a new thread.

No hardware age provided as well.
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post Dec 6 2022, 04:27 PM

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[Budget]RM4000

[Purpose] photoshop, after effect, simple animation and video editing. No games.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Just a couple of HDD that might be dying soon. Monitor, keyboard, mouse.

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Personal preferences] Not much preference, perhaps just need quite a bit of storage.

Asking for a friend with a 7 year old rig that's producing weird knocking noises and takes forever just to boot. Thanks sifu!
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post Dec 6 2022, 05:05 PM

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hi guys, can suggest rig setup for budget around rm4000? fr gaming, video, casual use purpose. and then about rm 1000 for 2k monitor .

noticed some of the PC shop are selling PC set for about rm4000 for rtx3070.

CPU: intel 12400F
MOBO: not sure which to choose, but noticed review for ASrock is kinda bad, is 2 slot ram or 4 slot ram better?
GPU: 3060TI
RAM: 2x 8GB, looking at kingston 3200
SSD: kingston kc3000 1tb
PSU: 650w gold fm?

can dear sifus suggest brand for the above? or any improvement needed for the build? am not sure if the stock cooler for 1200f is sufficient, or need to get AIO.

monitor options:
1) acer nitro xv272uv
2) asus tuf vg27aq

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Dec 6 2022, 04:27 PM)
[Budget]RM4000

[Purpose] photoshop, after effect, simple animation and video editing. No games.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Just a couple of HDD that might be dying soon. Monitor, keyboard, mouse.

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Personal preferences] Not much preference, perhaps just need quite a bit of storage.

Asking for a friend with a 7 year old rig that's producing weird knocking noises and takes forever just to boot. Thanks sifu!
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Try

Core i5-12600K - 1299 (Core i5-13600K is better if u can squeeze RM200 more)
Thermalright Frost Commander 140 - 269
MSI Z690-A Pro DDR4 (BIOS update required for 13600K) - 899
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 441
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 409
Be Quiet Pure Power 11 FM 650W - 419
Lian Li Lancool 205/215 case - 309

RM4045 total (Shopee prices)

QUOTE(kimirockz @ Dec 6 2022, 05:05 PM)
hi guys, can suggest rig setup for budget around rm4000? fr gaming, video, casual use purpose.  and then about rm 1000 for 2k monitor .

noticed some of the PC shop are selling PC set for about rm4000 for rtx3070.

CPU: intel 12400F
MOBO: not sure which to choose, but noticed review for ASrock is kinda bad, is 2 slot ram or 4 slot ram better?
GPU: 3060TI
RAM: 2x 8GB, looking at kingston 3200
SSD: kingston kc3000 1tb
PSU: 650w gold fm?

can dear sifus suggest brand for the above? or any improvement needed for the build? am not sure if the stock cooler for 1200f is sufficient, or need to get AIO.

monitor options:
1) acer nitro xv272uv
2) asus tuf vg27aq
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Budget too low. How about these?

Core i5-12400F - 705
MSI B660M-A Pro Wifi - 645
Kingston HyperX 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 218
OCPC (170W) or Manli (200W) RTX 3060 TI - 1498/1598
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 409
Be Quiet Pure Power 11 FM 650W - 419
Lian Li Lancool 205/215 case - 309

RM4303 total (Shopee prices)
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post Dec 6 2022, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 6 2022, 08:09 PM)
Try

Core i5-12600K - 1299 (Core i5-13600K is better if u can squeeze RM200 more)
Thermalright Frost Commander 140 - 269
MSI Z690-A Pro DDR4 (BIOS update required for 13600K) - 899
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 441
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 409
Be Quiet Pure Power 11 FM 650W - 419
Lian Li Lancool 205/215 case - 309

RM4045 total (Shopee prices)
Budget too low. How about these?

Core i5-12400F - 705
MSI B660M-A Pro Wifi - 645
Kingston HyperX 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 218
OCPC (170W) or Manli (200W) RTX 3060 TI - 1498/1598
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 409
Be Quiet Pure Power 11 FM 650W - 419
Lian Li Lancool 205/215 case - 309

RM4303 total (Shopee prices)
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around the range is ok. thank you for the feedback!

the mobo msi b650m A pro wifi, is there non wifi version? thking to get external wifi bluetooth (m.2)

will check review for both ocpc and manli, hopefully is a good one.
heart prefer zotac / galax. lol
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Hi, looking for recommendation for motherboard and CPU cooler to pair with i9 12900

[Budget]: 1k+

[Purpose]: Surfing and gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]: Ram, psu, monitor, casing and others

[Personal preferences]: currently using Gigabyte, but can try others


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QUOTE(ltcbomd @ Dec 6 2022, 11:44 PM)
Hi, looking for recommendation for motherboard and CPU cooler to pair with i9 12900

[Budget]: 1k+

[Purpose]: Surfing and gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]: Ram, psu, monitor, casing and others

[Personal preferences]: currently using Gigabyte, but can try others
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Try

Thermalright Frost Commander 140 - 269
MSI B660M Mortar Wifi or MSI Z690-A Pro - 849/899
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post Dec 7 2022, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 6 2022, 08:09 PM)
Try

Core i5-12600K - 1299 (Core i5-13600K is better if u can squeeze RM200 more)
Thermalright Frost Commander 140 - 269
MSI Z690-A Pro DDR4 (BIOS update required for 13600K) - 899
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 441
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 409
Be Quiet Pure Power 11 FM 650W - 419
Lian Li Lancool 205/215 case - 309

RM4045 total (Shopee prices)
Thanks again Tristan smile.gif

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