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post May 5 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Alex@ @ May 5 2017, 09:47 AM)
Hi terence_nwb, my old gpu went kaput and need a replacement. Will buy from idealtech and currently looking at gtx-1050 but not sure which model to buy. Budget <RM850

My current rig:
I5 2400
Gigabyte z68a-d3-b3
PSU Cooler Master brand with 550w

Can this system support the 1050 gpu or is there any better option? Will not consider to upgrade whole rig for now.
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There is GTX 1050 Ti around RM700

QUOTE(Lynox @ May 5 2017, 10:09 AM)
i have zotac gtx 1060 amp with backplate version. i intend to put custom sticker or just put any color paper on that backplate because i want to match the theme. zotac backplate are grey+yellow >< . is there any effect if i do that? did the temperature will increase???
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Check with Zotac on warranty terms. Some manufacturer are extremely strict.
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post May 5 2017, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Lynox @ May 5 2017, 10:55 AM)
what if i JUST put the paper on it? no glue or sticker attached.  hmm.gif
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That shouldn't be a problem as it won't leave leftovers.

QUOTE(mouseblue @ May 5 2017, 10:58 AM)
Hi guys,

I am thinking of upgrading my 2010 PC.
currently im using Athlon X2 635 and AEH5750 GPU. its OLD.
this OLD fellows allow me to have 60 fps dota 2 at 1080 mid setting.

I am thinking to upgrade to G4560, H110M and Zotac 1050 Mini.
the noob question is here,

How do I update bios of H110M to run G4560?
Will ETECH do the free update for me?
I will probably buy from ETECH based on price preferences.

Hope someone will answer me.
Its been 7 years since my last involvement in rig setup.
a lot of information in single thread. haha
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You need to know your brand and exact motherboard model for BIOS update. Visit the manufacturer's website for it.\

QUOTE(filcokb @ May 5 2017, 10:59 AM)
Budget] = 4k-5k

[Purpose] = aaa tittles and movies

[Hardwares that will be re-use] = None

[Monitor resolution] = prefer around 27-29inch

[Games & softwares that use frequently] =aaa tittles, movies, programming

[Personal preferences] = please give me 1 intel build & 1 amd build. Should I buy ori windows? Gonna get it at idealtech.
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Couldn't find Ryzen prices on Idealtech. How about these?

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 1039
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 X1 - 260
MSI RX 580 8GB DDR5 Gaming X - 1295
Kingston UV400 120GB - 239
WD Blue or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Thermaltake Versa case - 169
LG 29UM58 29" monitor (2560x1080) - 1049

RM4991 total (C-Zone prices)

Switch these parts for Intel (estimated)

Core i5-7500 - 900
Gigabyte B250M-D3H - 449

Optional:
Zotac GTX 1060 6GB DDR5 Mini - 1229

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post May 5 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(seanwms @ May 5 2017, 12:23 PM)
[Budget] 9-9.5

[Purpose] purely gaming and minor editing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] 1440p, 144hz ips , 27 or larger

[Games & softwares that use frequently] triple A games

[Personal preferences]
1) ryzen or i7-7700k, mind explaining which one is better
2) gtx 1080/1070 all triple A games at least 90hz-100 max setting in 2k resolution
3) 3000mhz ram
4) m2 ssd 256gb

[Location] kl area
best bang for the buck. thanks
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Going 1440p with 144hz and 27" IPS panel already asking for not best bang for the buck. AMD not recommended for GTX 1070 or higher. It bottlenecks. RAM speed doesn't improve performance as much as CPU and GPU. So yeah, asking too much for this budget.

Core i7-7700K - 1579
Noctua NH-D14 - 375
Gigabyte Z270X Gaming K5 - 899
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 X1 - 260
MSI GTX 1080 8GB DDR5X Armor - 2650
Samsung 960 Evo 250GB - 721
WD Blue or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Gold 750W - 549
Corsair Spec case - 299
Acer XB271HU 27" monitor - 3499 (from Viewnet)

RM11043 total (C-Zone prices)

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QUOTE(sapuri @ May 5 2017, 03:01 PM)
Budget] = 4k

[Purpose] = workstation

[Hardwares that will be re-use] = none

[Monitor resolution] =

[Games & softwares that use frequently] = 3ds max, photoshop, autocad, Vray, adobe premier pro, skectup 2017, lumion 6

[Personal preferences] = performance, no need rgb

Already have monitor, keyboard & etc.
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How about these?

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 - 1599
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Corsair 8GB DDR4-2133 X2 - 520
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 715
WD Blue or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair VS 550W - 248
Thermaltake Versa case - 169

RM3943 total (C-Zone prices)
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post May 5 2017, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(sapuri @ May 5 2017, 03:29 PM)
If i want to change gpu to rx470? any signficance change to the performance?
what about ssd??
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Yes, RX 470 will cost more. RX 570 replaces RX 470. Yes, there will be increase of performance.

Adding SSD will increase the cost as well.

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post May 6 2017, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(sapuri @ May 5 2017, 03:37 PM)
if i want to drop 1700 to 1600 and add ssd

which one better performance in rendering 1700 with hdd or 1600 with ssd?
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Would not recommend downgrading CPU for SSD. You can always add SSD later.
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QUOTE(starz92 @ May 6 2017, 09:13 AM)
my future build will be something like this but change the monitor to Dell U2715H (aim for 60Hz 1440p gaming at ultra setting only).
May I know what is the difference between Samsung 960 and Samsung 850 for SSD? price almost double for the same size.. and a single 8gb ram enough for this build? Also the Mobo, will Gigabyte Z270-HD3 enough?
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960 is M.2 version. 850 is SATA.

If you spend that much, go for 16GB. Eventually it will need that much.
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QUOTE(christina1 @ May 7 2017, 03:22 PM)
What is the best way to improve desktop pc performance...

I am planning to get this ...Should be good enough for daily usage since I am not gamer...

Intel Core i5 7500 - RM 919
Asus H110M-K - RM 279
Apacer 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz Value RAM - RM 518
Transcend 220 120GB SSD - RM 259
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
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i5 isn't worth it if you are not playing games for today's CPUs. Change to these parts

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 1039
MSI A320M Grenade - 335
Apacer 8GB DDR4-2133 X1 - 259
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QUOTE(christina1 @ May 7 2017, 03:47 PM)
Why do u recommend AMD Ryzen 5 1600 ? I understand that Core i5 7500 is much better processor....

Please advice on this....
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6 core with multithreading (12 threads) vs 4 core 4 threads. Not even close.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1379-and-ryzen-5-1600x-1500x/

1600 is slightly slower than 1600X
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QUOTE(christina1 @ May 7 2017, 03:59 PM)
So its better to go for AMD Ryzen 5 1600 ? Just  worried AMD Ryzen 5 1600 wont be able to last me for 3 years....
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Easily will last you 3 years. Yeah, u will need to add RM150ish graphic card for Ryzen setup.
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QUOTE(christina1 @ May 7 2017, 04:05 PM)
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 1039
MSI A320M Grenade - 335
Apacer 8GB DDR4-2133 X1 - 259
Graphc Card --  RM150
Corsair PSU TX650 ---Can I used this back ?
Casing -- Cooler Master [Can used it back?]
Hard Disk --- Samsung Evo 120GB [Can used it back?]

All the while I am using Intel just a bit reluctant to used AMD Ryzen 5 1600
What else I need to get ?
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Yes, you can use the rest of the stuffs back. For your info, I also favor Intel. The data just says otherwise.
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QUOTE(zychan1 @ May 7 2017, 10:47 PM)
Hi,

Starting out from scratch and wanted to see if it's possible to build a mini-ITX setup with a GTX1070 for ~7 - 7.5k, monitor, windows 10 OS and mouse + keyboard all included. Appreciate everyone's advice!

[Budget] ~7 - 7.5k

[Purpose] Gaming, HD Movies, some light office work from time to time

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Headphones, no speaker required

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA Games

[Personal preferences]
Fractal Design Node 304 Case
GTX1070 Card
Wireless adapter integrated to MOBO
1440p monitor, 25" or less
Windows 10 OS

[Location] KL

If price point is not feasible, might consider downgrading to a 1080p monitor.

Thanks in advance!
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1440p is already a big chunk of your budget. How about these?

From Viewnet:
Core i7-7700 - 1399
Asrock H270M-ITX/ac - 549
Apacer 8GB DDR4-2133 X2 - 498

From C-Zone:
Zotac GTX 1070 8GB DDR5 Mini - 1999
Samsung 850 Evo 120GB - 286
WD Black 1TB 2.5" - 299
Super Flower Leadex Gold 550W - 429
Fractal Design Node 304 - 369
Dell U2515H 25" monitor - 1339
Logitech MK100 mouse and keyboard - 49

RM7167 total

You can find cheap OEM Windows 10 from lelong.
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QUOTE(zychan1 @ May 8 2017, 01:22 AM)
Thanks! Just a few more questions:

1. Realise you didn't include a CPU cooler. Is it not required with this build?
2. At this price point would it make sense to go with a 1080p monitor instead and spend more on other parts? If so, which monitor and which parts to swap out?
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The CPU comes with cooler.

Thats up to you. Current build isn't overbudget. You can go for Dell U2417H at around RM1k if you wanna cut cost.
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QUOTE(thedufus @ May 8 2017, 12:41 PM)
Hey guys need some recommendations for a new GPU, old one getting cranky. Thanks for the help  notworthy.gif

[Budget]: RM1500

[Purpose]: Mainly gaming and programming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]:
MOBO: Z87-G43 Gaming
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670
RAM: 8GB

[Monitor resolution]: 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DotA2, Xsplit, running VM
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Go for GTX 1060 6GB. Yeah, it is overkill for DOTA2.
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QUOTE(sbd18 @ May 8 2017, 11:20 PM)
hey guys...

what is the cheapest solution for a desktop for my parents? trying to spend as little as possible, do note i already have a monitor & peripherals...

they only use it for solitaire, some basic web surfing, occasional you tube, emails & picture viewing...

thanks in advance! biggrin.gif
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How about these?

Pentium G4560 - 249
Asus H110M-K - 279
Kingston 8GB DDR4-2133 - 254
WD Blue 1TB - 210
Corsair VS 450W - 184
Tecware F3 case - 124

RM1300 total (C-Zone prices)
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QUOTE(leonard_tee @ May 9 2017, 07:50 PM)
Hello anyone can to recommend any rig (excluding monitor and peripherals) build?

[B][Budget] 3,000 - 3,500

[Purpose]gaming, multitasking (2-3 monitor), HD video

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Nil

[Monitor resolution] Dell 24 Monitor | SE2417HG

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Diablo 3, Dota2

[Personal preferences] Something can further upgrade in the future

[Location] KL

Thanks so much
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How about these?

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 1039
MSI B350M Mortar - 480
Kingston 8GB DDR4-2133 X1 - 254
MSI RX 570 4GB DDR5 Gaming X - 970
WD Blue or Seagate 1TB - 212
Super Flower Leadex Silver 550W - 359
Thermaltake Versa case - 169

RM3494 total (C-Zone prices)
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QUOTE(Nickeolosophy @ May 10 2017, 07:58 PM)
Hi, sorry for late reply...My budget will include a monitor too, how about make it around or less than rm3.5k?
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Refined

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 1039
MSI A320M Grenade - 335
Kingston 8GB DDR4-2133 X1 - 254
Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 - 715
WD Blue (7200rpm only) or Seagate 1TB - 212
Corsair VS 450W - 184
Tecware F3 case - 124
LG 24MP68VQ 24" monitor - 562

RM3549 total (C-Zone prices)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ May 10 2017, 08:23 PM)
Intel Core i5 7400 - RM 853
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 - RM 279
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 279
Zotac GTX1050 2GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 579
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 219
Corsair VS450 - RM 190
Tecware F3 - RM 119
Dell S2318H IPS - RM 699

Total: RM 3217 (Techview PJ price inclusive of GST)
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Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti 4GB DDR5 at RM715 still within budget if he wanna go 3.5k.
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QUOTE(christina1 @ May 10 2017, 06:13 PM)
Spoke to viewnet salesman.. He said is true rayzen 1600 is faster than i5 7500 by 50% but in terms of stability Intel i5 750 wins.. I'm wondering now if he is telling me the truth.
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QUOTE(petang makan maggi @ May 10 2017, 06:52 PM)
I don't own a Ryzen but that sounds like some typical pasar malam bullcrap.

On a side note, Ryzen isn't exactly 50% faster than an i5, it just having 50% more cores (and far more threads). If want compare performance, per core performance is more relevant, which I doubt Ryzen will be better than i5.
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Dont listen to salesman. They are mostly dont know anything. Listen to people who actually owns it.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4272247/+40
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QUOTE(Nickeolosophy @ May 10 2017, 08:43 PM)
How AMD Ryzen differs from Intel processor, in terms of performance and stability?
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Again. Stability is not an issue.

Performance wise. Ryzen 5 1600 is slightly slower in some games, blows i5 away when it comes to heavy apps and some games.
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