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 Malaysian Estimated Weekly RON95/RON97 Price, RON95 ◆, RON97 ◆ on 7/3 (Estimation)

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Lone Wolf X
post May 11 2018, 03:57 PM

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All the comments show that you've haven't read PH full manifesto. Anyone care to share their view on this, as it it has put down details on what they plan on to achieve this.
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post May 14 2018, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ May 14 2018, 08:51 AM)
It will. What made you think it would be different?

TDM already announced the price is pegged until there is a suitable mechanism. From what I read, the B40 will be given a fixed amount of subsidized fuel per month, given through their IC.
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Yes this is clearly in the Pakatan Harapan manifesto including the type of vehicle eligible for the subsidy.
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post May 14 2018, 05:36 PM

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I'm glad that there are other people who sees this point.

But there are some people who wants cheap petrol regardless of household income or helping the marginalised communities.

The savings should go to other sectors like education or public health.

There are a great number of people who are well off and are still able to afford petrol at higher prices.

QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ May 14 2018, 04:14 PM)
Yes. We should encourage people to get energy efficient vehicle so that we burn less fuel. Buy less petrol, government don't have to subsidize too much. Those people who have performance vehicle or continental cars should be remove from the subsidy scheme.

If we allow like last time everyone can get cheap petrol, then government will just have their money drain to a sinkhole. So it's better that the government have a rebate system that cap at max RM50.

For those who require to travel long distance due to work requirement, the company should subsidize the petrol and not the government.
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post May 14 2018, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 14 2018, 06:26 PM)
errmmm, i'm driving gen2, local car but heavy FC, so am I eligible for those subsidy?
House got another polo bought 55k due to pre-owned scheme, so this consider "continental" car and not entitle for subsidy? how come since it's cheaper than almighty myvi high spec?

grey area too wide...
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Can always check one person owns how many cars with JPJ lor....
Can also check with income tax how much income you get....
Aiyah so simple

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Lone Wolf X
post May 15 2018, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 14 2018, 06:42 PM)
many will start to regret when they start implementing this...
educated younger gen easily falls in M40 category, and they contributed majority of car usage... onsite engineer, sales etc..

so if i'm falls in B40 category also, i would need to sell my gen2 @RM7k and purchase a Saga/Myvi 1.3 @30k above to entitle for subsidy? Many B40 category still driving Wira 1.5 i foresee...
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ May 14 2018, 09:55 PM)
Aside from Perodua, and Proton 1.3 Iriz etc, i can only find these below 1300
Ford Fiesta 1.0 Sports
Peugeot 208 1.2 PureTech
Renault Captur TCe 120
Renault Clio GT 1.2T
VW Vento
Kia Picanto

Not small number also....
anyway...they also excluded Electric car in that sense...
but anyway all these above and e-Car is definitely not B40 range...M40 may try for it...until whole pic clear...no point debating...
aside from looking at affordability, should we also start looking at fuel it burns....
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Upon further reflection & thought on the valid point you have raised.

That assistance should go to people who are worse off or marginalized communities which are negatively effected by the price of petrol.

I agree with your argument that subsidies should be based on an income principle.

I'm happy to see this discussion going on in a objective and open manner.

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Lone Wolf X
post Aug 31 2018, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Aug 31 2018, 08:10 PM)
The following price is effective 1st September 2018 -  30th September 2018

Ron 97 - decrease 4 cents
Ron 95 - unchanged
Diesel - unchanged

The new pump price as follows:-
1) RON 97- RM2.65 per liter
2) RON 95 - RM2.20 per liter‎
3) Diesel - RM2.18 per liter
4) Euro5 - RM2.28 per liter
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Wut? How come?
SST give 4 cents less.... rclxub.gif
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post Sep 19 2018, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Sep 18 2018, 06:05 PM)
When looking at the price, are we looking at Brent or WTI?
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Since this thred is about petrol and diesel price, we are looking at gasoline and diesel market price.

Brent & WTI is crude oil & I don't recommend you use that for your car.
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post Oct 1 2018, 12:52 PM

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GOV no money to subsidise if change need to fork out more money.

Ini semua salah LGE....
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post Oct 5 2018, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ Oct 1 2018, 07:05 AM)
If true, than really disappointed with the new Government
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Its official YO

EURO4M postponed to 1 Jan 2020
Lone Wolf X
post Jan 9 2019, 10:31 AM

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We will know by friday,

BTW has the calculation taken into consideration the increase given to the petrol station dealer recently?

Thanks and keep up the good work!

QUOTE(isr25 @ Jan 9 2019, 09:21 AM)
Not sure how they are calculating either 31/12 to 4/1 or 1/1 to 4/1 or 7/1 to 11/1 for this weekly calculation. Below is the estimated daily price for RON95/97

Jan RON95 RON97
2 RM1.78 RM1.92
3 RM1.85 RM1.99
4 RM1.93 RM2.07
7 RM1.97 RM2.11
8 RM1.91 RM2.05
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Lone Wolf X
post Jan 10 2019, 08:43 AM

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Meh...

I'll hold onto isr25 predictions, proven track record nod.gif

QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jan 10 2019, 07:45 AM)
Ron 97 up 3 cents

Ron 95 down 2 cents

From a reliable source for this weekend
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post Jan 11 2019, 06:10 PM

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Good job isr25,

But bad news for RON97, maybe its time to tell Rafizi about this brows.gif
Maybe he can help whistling.gif
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post Jan 18 2019, 11:57 AM

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Bro,

Appreciate your effort in this, but might I suggest to put up also different calculation cycles.
If I remember correctly in 2017 you tried out a few before getting the correct cycle days.


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QUOTE(isr25 @ Jan 18 2019, 10:18 AM)
The current RON95 price is RM1.92 and RON97 is RM2.22 which was announced on Friday 11/1.

Jan RON95 RON97
11 RM2.00 RM2.30
14 RM1.95 RM2.25
15 RM1.92 RM2.22
16 RM1.97 RM2.27
17 RM1.96 RM2.26

if calculating 11/1 to 17/1 cycle (Friday to Thursday), RON95 should be around RM1.96, and RON97 should be around RM2.26 - assuming the govt is charging 30 sen higher. It should only be 14 sen higher... RON97 is being unfairly taxed even though SST is not charged on fuel.

My estimate, they will be announcing that both RON95/97 price will go up by 2 sen (±2 sen)

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post Mar 15 2019, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Mar 15 2019, 03:51 PM)
Any chance for ron95 to be cheaper anytime soon?
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Highly unlikely, unless some country starts pumping and selling copious amount of crude in the near future
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post Mar 18 2019, 05:27 PM

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Well there are people who pump 97 because its better for the environment plus they can afford it.


QUOTE(jamespaul @ Mar 18 2019, 04:48 PM)
99% of cars in Malaysia dont need Ron97. So, why bother making that 1% happy?

I think capping Ron 95 helps the people with cost.

Skip the 97 if your doesnt need it.
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post Mar 19 2019, 09:15 AM

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Yes, consumer decides what they want to purchase, if they are really concerned then they would choose public transport.

But they are really picky they would might also ask what fuel are these transportation using?

Not to mention a host of other things to consider such as timing, route etc.
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post Mar 19 2019, 01:00 PM

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That is miss information.

Nah,

https://www.mymesra.com.my/PETRONAS_Fuels-@..._PRIMAX_97.aspx

http://www.bhpetrol.com.my/products-servic...5-ron-97-(2018)

http://autoworld.com.my/news/2015/08/13/sh...le-by-year-end/

https://autobuzz.my/2017/05/09/shell-malays...s-fuel-economy/

QUOTE(leinnz @ Mar 19 2019, 11:05 AM)
Errmmm. why is 97 better for environment. for what i know off it is the EURO standard that is better for environment. our petrols in Malaysia are lowest  which is euro 3 be it 97 or 95.
go singki if you want better euro
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post Mar 19 2019, 01:13 PM

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Malaysia petrol standard
RON97 is EURO4
RON92 is EURO2

QUOTE(#Victor @ Mar 19 2019, 01:07 PM)
Is RON97 actually more environmental friendly? The main concern using RON97 is not due to fuel efficiency and environment but better performance and protection for engine (lower oil temp) where the mapping are tuned for RON97. Very significant difference for RON97 and RON95 is when temperature gone up, can feel pretty substantial power gone
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post Mar 19 2019, 01:26 PM

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If you have read the links given above you would know the answer.
Petrol fuel standards is set by the Department of Environment, you can ask them I already have.

QUOTE(#Victor @ Mar 19 2019, 01:22 PM)
Does every petrol stations here using the same Euro grade? And how do we know what Euro grade that the petrol brand using?
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QUOTE(leinnz @ Mar 19 2019, 01:19 PM)
since when all Ron 97 is euro 4 Only Caltex and BHP and they are only  at certain area.
please provide fact. your links does not mention any environment friendly petrol.

i will stop replying now. btw. thanks
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post Mar 19 2019, 04:59 PM

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isr25 Minor corrections to your statements,

If you have proof that the fuel is not compliant you report to Ministry of Energy, Science, Technology, Environment and Climate Change (MESTECC) or the Department of Environment.
Thru the powers under the Environmental Quality Act 1974 they imposed standards on Euro4 and Euro5 for petrol and diesel, more specifically the Environmental Quality (Control of petrol and diesel properties) regulation.
Anyone found to have made an offence under this Act can be fined or jailed.

https://www.doe.gov.my/portalv1/wp-content/...d.php?id=317458


EURO6 is not a fuel standard.
It is a emission standards for cars, vans, lorries, buses and etc.
Your car has to be certified that it is EURO6 compliant.

https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/automot...on/emissions_en


QUOTE(isr25 @ Mar 19 2019, 02:43 PM)
All RON97 fuel in Malaysia is EURO4M compliant, and all RON95 fuel in Malaysia is EURO2M compliant - no matter what brand of fuel you are using. If you have any proof that they are not complying, you can make a report to KPDNKK. All other fuel types (Shell V-Power Racing & Petron RON100) are at least EURO4M compliant.

There are a few types of Diesel available, either EURO2M (Black hose) or EURO5M (Blue hose). The price difference between the 2 is 10 sen.

EURO4M is more environmentally friendly compared to EURO2M due to the significantly less sulphur content. Other countries such as Singapore are already using EURO6 fuel.
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