Great!

have to concur that winning the league is not the aim for this season, but top 4 instead.

No point spending unnecessary money on jan window as the players are generally more expensive. Is a big risk tho, what if we cant make it to the top 4? so, thats the risk klopp s taking now.... lets hope we can play better and secure at least 4th. with 2 games played and 3rd is not comfortable, the fate is in our opponents hand to screw up. we can only pray at the moment

not much activity in last winter transfer window in all top leagues and the price didn't actually fluctuated. normally the price will go much higher in summer window especially during or after international competition and also after local individual awards winner is announced. city got wonderkid g.jesus for less than 30m, soton get in form gabbiadini for less than 15m. payet is just at same price with wijnaldum and draxler is about Mané price. even depay is much more cheaper than markovic. it’s not about the price though but not many club want to let their player go mid season and not many player prepare to move out to another city all the sudden.

The problem is whether Klopp willing to cash in super expensive proven players?
No eye see if he again decided to buy a few average players with above average price tag.

Antoine Griezmann is the hot cake now, I wanna see where he will ended up in the next season.

Player's deciding factor

1. Money
2. Manager
3. League competition
4. UCL

Super expensive proven players has never been Liverpool's transfer policy anyway. All the best players we've signed in the past 20 or so years are players who have yet to reach their peaks when we signed them. And signing big name stars is not the only way to success. Few teams ever employ that strategy anyway. Just look at the likes of Bayern, Chelsea and Juventus. Bayern picking up a young Ribery from Marseille. Chelsea picking up a very young Hazard from Lille. Juventus picking up young Dybala from Palermo. They are all young players with big potential signed with big sums but definitely not super expensive ones.

Players like Griezmann wouldn't even consider Liverpool. It doesn't matter how much money we throw at him. Players of that calibre already make loads of cash and can earn just as much elsewhere at a club that actually consistently challenges for trophies. Something major would have to shift in order for us to compete for these players, like getting a multi billionaire owner like PSG/City.

Grujic is back if you have not forgotten him

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/academy/25...-thrash-reading

I am not even sure if Klopp is capable of spotting a gem.

Haha of course I know we will never land Griezmann here, but I am just curious where he will be ending up next season.

Yes that's the difficult part. It's easier when you are a club challenging on all fronts with loads of cash to burn. These clubs can just go for the more proven up and coming young players. Like when Chelsea signed Hazard who although very young was already Ligue 1 Player of the Year. This summer many top clubs will be fighting for the gems at Monaco especially Mbappe who is likely to cost even more than Martial. For someone like us we will inevitably have to settle for players a tier or two lower, which increases the risk of course - example Markovic. It's just the sad truth that we are not capable of competing with the super elites. We lost out on Ousmane Dembele to Dortmund because frankly Dortmund is better than us at the moment. Have little to no chance of signing Pulisic. And this is not a lack of money, Dortmund themselves run on a much tighter budget than ours. Sad thing is these are not even the top tier wonderkids that we are losing out on.

it wasn't easy to sign him either.. had to win a UCL to convince him to sign

Exactly what I'm saying. It ain't easy signing a player everyone knows will be a world class player in a few years time. You must have the cash to splash AND a good recent track record in challenging for trophies to convince them to sign. It's not simply a case of whoever throws the most money at the player gets the player.

This post has been edited by Cloud0890: Mar 7 2017, 06:16 PM

I thought we can't afford high wage rate.
But we outspend rich clubs.

Well, I just leave it here.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...ets-25-12700881

And Can's agent wants to double his wage..

That doesn't include existing wage.

I heard this news on radio yesterday.
And I googled it and I posted the news here.

Existing wage rate is already higher than ManC/ManU/Chelsea/Tottenham/Arsenal.

So, please don't use an excuse our club can't afford high wage.
It's utterly bullshit.

Remember how ManC and Chelsea started?
They signed star players with high wage even though they're not UCL qualified.
Remember how West Ham signed Tevez and Mascherano?

This is from company accounts & would include wages paid to all employees, not just playing staff. Might also include severance payments to Rodgers & his coaching team as well.

Just because LFC has more staff & higher total wages for the last FY, doesn't mean the club can afford to pay higher player wages.

You can choose either high salary or more transfer money. There is no both unless you are ManCity or Chelsea. Our net spend this season was 0.5m (some report even say we profited 6m from the transfer) just google you will see the figure.

If our owner is like ManCity or Chelsea then of coz you wouldnt have any problem but do you think FSG are the same with them?

Arsenal still manage to attract players is due to their consistency in the league.

Tottenham doesnt buy star players, they find potential star plus they are more consistent than us in the past 5 years. You dont need crazy high wages for potential players. The only problem is that now they are finding it hard to keep their key players with the current wage.

In the end high wages doesnt mean you can attract star players if that is what you want to talk about. Consistent staying in the top league is very important unless you have owner like ManCity where they were willing to spend to build a team to challenge the honours.

Buying star players is not the only way to success but it has been proven Year after year bar Leicester's season that you need to spend big to win trophies. But just how many miracles like Leicester City will happened in our lifetime?

Chelsea didn't spend a lot? Hazard's transfer is a poor citation of Chelsea's spending habits in the past few seasons. They were literally splashing the cash ever since Abrams took over to get to where they are now.

So does Man City.

Don't get me wrong I'm not asking FSG to splurge in the transfer market like buying 5-6 players at 50mil in one go but let's be honest, if every season we can get a 50 mil signing quality and build from there, we don't have to be hunting replacements for average joes every year.

If you want the club to eye for hidden gems or the next Messi, then be prepared to play the waiting game and re-evaluate the team n manager every 5 year cycle, like what we are doing now. The club has plenty of talented players but they are lacking a TALISMAN at present.

A talisman who can be found with cash instantly OR you may get lucky to find one in every 20 average joes we buy. It's either that or you recruit the entire staff from La Masia or Ajax academy.

At this rate, 20 years down the road Liverpool will become the present Arsenal irregardless of how good Klopp is. Always Full of potential but never able to harness it to the max.

Spot on bro.

But right now I am not sure player will come to LFC even if we are ready to splurge the cash due to our poor league record.

No matter how we want to deny it, we are no longer the LFC that we used to be.

But yes we should at least try to target elite player every season and just offer big sum of money and get done with it. We are in no position to play hard ball with the player that we want to sign.

On other unrelated news, Arsenal is really taking the whole Brexit to another level

Well they get money to be kicked out, what does our club get?

We get the EPL Robin Hood award