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post Feb 25 2017, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(pakku_azrie @ Feb 25 2017, 07:31 PM)
All hail 3 paddle!

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p/s on the side note my car's exhaust sounded like a metal clunking inside it...went to sc for inspection n sc confirmed that my car is the first case..now will wait for hq to approve and change the whole exhaust assembly
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interesting find. my manual proton saga vvt is having this rattling/pinging sound and I am not sure if it is coming from my engine due to pre-detonation or exhaust system somewhere loose (heat shield) or your issue.

Cause it sounds like metal clunking as well. Does it sound like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Kqu87j7FI&feature=youtu.be
You can hear it when i accelerate.

Let me know your feedback. Thanks!

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post Feb 27 2017, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(d8s @ Feb 27 2017, 10:38 AM)
I m having this issue also, crackling sound when i accelerate. maybe loose bolt on the exhaust drum. Have no time to go SC for checking  cry.gif
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Hi, will be great if you can record it as I am trying to diagnose my rattling noise when accelerating as well. Really unsure is it due to engine pre-detonation or from exhaust system :/
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post Mar 22 2017, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(rajivakalanka @ Mar 22 2017, 04:14 PM)
Hello Everyone,
I too an owner of a new persona STD CVT since late last year. Just wanted to ask the forum about few things i've experienced with this car. (Btw, this is my first Proton car)

1. The OEM wiper blades become very noisy and skips/jerks when in relatively moderate rain. The funny thing is this happens only after like 15-20 wipes and become worse on every wipe until i get too annoyed and turn it off. I've told this to the service center few times and they attended my query (cleaned widescreen/Wiper blades, etc) but the issue is still there.
I'm thinking to change the blades to another brand (Eg:Bosch) myself but unfortunately i could not find the right fit so far. (I looked in Lazada and other online sellers) Eg : http://www.lazada.com.my/bosch-clear-advan...338.html?rb=647
They only have the U-Hook Type, which i don't know if it matched this car. Appreciate if anyone can help me to find.

2.  Not sure if this is an issue or anyone else has has faced it,  the Cooling FAN of this car runs more frequently, ( it just stops for only for 3-5 seconds before starts again) when the Air-cond is running. This with no matter what setting i set at any time of the day. anyone has any thoughts about this ?

3. Since few weeks ago, I start to hear a light to moderate engine pinging/knocking sounds (tappet sound..???), specially when climb up a steep climb (Eg: climb up the ram between multi-story Parking lots. I reported this to the service center (@PROTON Centre of Excellence) and they replaced the knock sensor too. But so far the issue is still there. I tried different petrol brands as well as RON97 as a test, but no luck so far.
I'm thinking if I'd to live with this if this is not gonna be an issue later. anyone else faced this issue before me?

Anyone can help me with any comments would be very much appreciated. Thanks for your time.
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Hi. I am user of saga vvt manual. I have your issue number 3. Is the sound you're experiencing something like this?



I have made appointment with Proton CoSE regarding this issue. I am disheartened to hear that they replaced your knock sensor (how long did they take to replace it?) and still your problem persists as I fear the same would happen to my saga cry.gif . I have considered trying ron97 but now with your statement seems like ron97 does not solve the case.

But I am still hoping that this rattling issue is due to exhaust manifold/shield that is loose or having leak. As there was once when I am cruising at moderate highways speeds, there is a boom-my exhaust note being heard that can possibly indicate an exhaust leak.

Kindly refer this video where a fellow youtuber experiencing similar rattle noise but got it fixed by tightening his exhaust shield.





I am really determined to solve this issue, as this is a freaking new car! vmad.gif My mums saga aeroback has this issue after 12 years! And this within 2 months or so. cry.gif
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post Mar 23 2017, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 23 2017, 08:49 PM)
Talking about this Pinging sound, last time I thought is my illusion or Radio... the sound was very light... but today I try again during uphill, the pinging sound doesn't appear  hmm.gif

For your mum Saga Aeroback, the pinging can be solved be retarding the distributors... can ask those experienced foreman to help. Its just loosen up the screw at the distributor and turn it I think towards the engine? If unsure better let the foreman do it  sweat.gif
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My mum saga aeroback pinging is solved and yes due to distributor.

But this new persona/saga vvt does not have a distributor so the problem is somewhere else. I have a strong gut feeling it's the exhaust system as when my engine is cold, performance is super snappy and no pinging whatsoever. Response is amazing.

But when temp gets hot/operating temperature, car feels dragged. And pinging occurs more often.


Also regarding you changing the stop lamp switch. May I know where you did it and whom I can refer too?

Another issue I'm facing is that when air con compressor kicks in. You can really feel it's load on the engine by cutting 500rpm. I'm in gear 3 and I can still feels it's drag.
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post Mar 23 2017, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Mar 23 2017, 09:52 PM)
this is what i told the staff at the SC counter .. dont know they understand or not .. if normal workshop of course they know ..
because SC we cant afford to wait and speak with the pomen .. will test my car tomorrow either the problem solve or not ..
SC inform not because of the distributor but rattling inside the dashboard ..
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I don't think our campro vvt engine is utilizing distributors anymore as it is fuel injected. Distributors is for those carbureted engines.

I may be wrong though.
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post Mar 25 2017, 11:28 AM

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Shyt. I just checked my engine oil levels. And it's 1 cm above max line.

I researched online and results show that this can cause sufficient damage to the engine! Could this be where my engine knock/pinging coming from!? hmm.gif

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post Mar 27 2017, 10:07 PM

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The compressor proton used in saga/persona is too strong. As a manual user I can really feel the jerk when the compressor activates. As long as you're below 2.5k rpm when that thing turns on, it's like your car braked for a split second. shocking.gif

Best experience driving my car is in the cold hours in the morning with air cond off. Oh my God, the performance is soooooooooo gooooooddddd. Pickup thumbup.gif

In the afternoon though.. sad.gif

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post Mar 28 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 27 2017, 11:46 PM)
Not sure which is more fascinating...
Aircond compressor that's too small to generate enough power to cool off the cabin during hot day
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Powerful Aircond that can cool off the cabin during hot day but will lose a bit of power while air cond kick in

I prefer the 2nd choice thou... the old days in Myvi especially traffic is slow below 40km/h, you'll feel dizzy due to the heat
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More of give and take in this case. I do appreciate the cool air con in the hot afternoon. Couple of minutes and the cabin is comfortable haha.
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post Mar 28 2017, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(nejordida @ Mar 28 2017, 08:34 AM)
Yeah bro!
Me too got snake inside  rclxms.gif
It's actually more like someone is breathing deeply inside the zircon vent u know? Anyone has found solution for that?
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No solution. It is meant to be that way. When it's hissing it is when your compressor is working.

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post Apr 7 2017, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(rajivakalanka @ Apr 7 2017, 06:15 PM)
Mine (STD -  CVT ) only 5K ++ KM mileage, still has the engine knocking during acceleration and climbing up a ramp. Service Center already checked and attended twice but no results.
I'm already running on RON97 for few weeks now as per their advice but nothing seems to be working.
now waiting for a loner car from them so that they can allow them to keep my car for few days for further inspections. Hope this is not another excuse to pass some time.
Service Center is their HQ. (COE)
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I went Proton CoSE in Subang Jaya complain similar issue for my saga vvt. They say its normal. GG WP. The main branch already say like this I also duno who else to ask help from anymore... vmad.gif mad.gif ranting.gif
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post Apr 7 2017, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Apr 7 2017, 10:11 PM)
How serious is ur engine knocking? my persona engine noise is like abit choppy but its not really noticeable to a point where i think its abnormal. its like gr-gr-gr-gr-gr-gr-gr-gr but in a smooth way, its just that the noise is abit choppy. how does urs sound like? So far my engine no problem.
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Engine no problem. runs like it should. just no idea this rattling coming from engine or other parts. icon_question.gif

Maybe I'm lugging the engine? I can eliminate this problem if I always rev my car more than 2.5k and shift @ 3.5k. Vroom Vroom.

From the video I'm on a hill in gear 2. Revs are below 2k when I begin to accelerate.

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post Apr 7 2017, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Apr 7 2017, 10:22 PM)
is it the metal sound coming from the engine that is rattling? Ur engine noise is quite similar to mine under load
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Yes correct. Its from the engine compartment.

Either its....

1. Engine pre-detonation

2. Exhaust system rattle. this user solved it by tightening his heat shield.




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post Apr 7 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Apr 7 2017, 10:29 PM)
Go for other big proton service centre. I've heard many bad stories about cose. Cant believe they said its normal hahaha
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where else got big one? AFAIK Proton CoSE is the biggest one???
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post Apr 10 2017, 07:48 PM

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I as guinea pig for proton and many others bought my proton saga as soon as it's released and I get nothing.

Sad really sad
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post Apr 27 2017, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(nanamizuki @ Apr 27 2017, 02:50 PM)
Anyone got extra Trapo floor mat go let go? Please let me know ya tq biggrin.gif
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At first I really wanted the Trapo but due to budget concerns I get a normal car carpet with sidewalls instead. Installed it with some carpet clips and its just as nice. Maybe loses out on looks but it's functionality is much better.

Able to contain the dirt way better due to larger and having sidewalls. Trapo does not have side walls and is larger albeit than the original fabric car mats. And thus, dirt will still fall underneath it more easier as compared to the Mr diy larger carpet with sidewall.

Maybe later when I'm free I take some picture of my setup.
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I think u can claim warranty for that
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The kluk kluk sound @ front absorber is most like have to change the bump stoppers. Not the whole absorber or absorber mounting.

I know cause they did change my absorber mounting first but then still have kluk kluk sound. Later change bump stopper then OK d

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