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Maxieos
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 14 2017, 11:43 PM)
u gotta spill it all out... becos that is most impt.

.. android box for old folks - is a big NO-NO.

becos YOU need to keep maintaining the apps and firmware updates and keep teaching them how and where to click, click, cilck.

it's totally not pushing buttons in axtro remote.

many people think they can get a box and dump axtro as replacement - wrong, wrong, wrong!
speed - what speed u have?
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Yep , when i first came across I though it'd be easier for elder to get use of android box but it's hard for them to get use to it.
All apps are independently and need to remember and click etc .

Been awhile I post around, comes to android box , which android box working with atog ? currently as I know they change the apps and non of the box working.Besides , android N is on the way where I still stuck at KK.
I saw some mention on Beelink devices , does it work on atog and kodi latest version ?
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post Apr 16 2017, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Apr 16 2017, 12:27 AM)
AOTG... pg 1 listed a few...

I understand there is a hacked AOTG apk for rooted box, there is also hacked rooted box to run original AOTG...
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I tried but not working on both.Got downstream but no video with the turning buffer.Tried on android phone also the same issue.
QUOTE(NyOx @ Apr 16 2017, 12:32 AM)
i think hack already not working.
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Even the original apk from google play also not working.I suspect it's the apk problem.But my friend using samsung phone working.I really can't find out which box or phone working well.
Last version 6 was working but version 7 all with buffer with no video sad.gif
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post Apr 18 2017, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Apr 16 2017, 07:25 AM)
Thanks... this is very good price !!!

Usually 3/16 around 300...3/32 around 350....exception of docooler brand...

Now just need a brave soul to get it first biggrin.gif

Edit : this either promo or pricing mistake... seller's 2/16 is already at 250... Google found mostly 2/16GB and 2/8GB...
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So worth to get it ?

btw , does those android box able to connect to 2TB and powerup 2.5 inch hard disk ? Besides ,why same mention on some android box , the time setting always wrong or no time ?
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post Jun 14 2018, 07:52 PM

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Hi , long time never post here, now , which android box is the cheapest and able to install atog and watch ? Thanks smile.gif
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post Jun 14 2018, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jun 14 2018, 07:59 PM)
See first page la.. Else wait about a week or 2 for my purchase to be delivered and I test..
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Which model you bought ?
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post Jun 24 2018, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jun 14 2018, 10:03 PM)
Bought the Mecool M8S Pro L.. Buying for a close pal to setup.. Personally, still using the Minix Neo U1 and on this, Unifi and AOTG works.
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How much did you bought ? arrive already ? ATOG or tonton work ?
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post Jun 23 2019, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(FG123 @ May 19 2019, 11:01 PM)
Looking for TV box. Budget around 200-300.

Unifi 500mb

Need to have working browser to watch TV show.

1080p
Reliable brands.

Too many TV box online, no idea which one is good.
please recommend me which tv box good.
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Same , too many tvbox online , don't know which one last long and warranty tend to said supplier warranty later spoil need 3 months to fix.
Budget Rm200
Beside voncrane Mecool M8S Pro L , what other tvbox range 200-300 ?
Any tvbox is pure empty without preload all those apps ? beside , which tvbox can put in sim card from our telco ?
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post Jun 25 2019, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(veron4best @ Jun 24 2019, 09:32 AM)
mecool is a solid recommendation.

otherwise may consider Tanix Tx5.

just grab it from Gearbest.
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Thanks , I'll try and check at Gearbest
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We're not God to know what content you wanna watch...😂
See photo... Certified Google
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What is google voice and the certificated google means ? sorry not sure about latest tech.
Where you get the price , but convert RMstilll over RM300 ? Gearbest RM297.46
QUOTE(voncrane @ Jun 25 2019, 01:25 AM)
For that price range.. Mecool is alright.. KM9 or KM3 will do.... Once arrived just factory reset and update to latest firmware. "TV boxes" is not a mobile phone. They don't typically build or ship with Sim card slot abilities.. Get a phone and hdmi cable if that's important to you. Though I guarantee you that no RM300 or even RM400 phone will be as versatile as their box equivalent.
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Just asking around , because if there is a tvbox that can insert a sim slot for data would be good if to subscribe a plan without using poor strmyx connection.Everytime need to do tethering and there is a limit on certain telco for tethering.
No phone now adays have hdmi out.
Now I am considering a Tv box or a Raspberry PI 4.Waiting for the review on raspberry pi 4 Cortex-A72 emulate on android.
As for remote , maybe a simple bluetooth air mouse will do.

Maybe on both too.
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post Sep 3 2019, 08:19 PM

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https://www.gearbest.com/top-brands/brand/MECOOL.html
So many mecool product , which one is better?
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Mecool KM9 Pro
Mecool KM9
mecool KM3
Mecool M8S MAX
MecooL M8S PLUS
Mecool M8S Pro L

Does it have warranty ? I check all 3 months either supply warranty or international.
UK PLUG VOICE
EU PLUG VOICE

what is the plug different ? need to buy new plug ? which one you all choose for suitable plug for malaysia ?

Mecool M8S Pro L vs K3 and KM9 ?
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post Sep 6 2019, 05:53 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Sep 4 2019, 08:07 AM)
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Hi.. Amongst the above.. My recommendation would be the Mecool KM3 with UK plug. This is the 128GB version and I chose this over the 64GB version, cuz it's an extra $10 for double the internal hard disk size. Which will come in handy if you game a lot and buffer big size files, etc.. The KM3 is also the better buy, thanks in part to its Amlogic S905X2 CPU and 4GB DDR4 RAM.

As for why there are different plugs. It's due to the various country standards. We (Malaysia) follow the UK plug format as default. So to avoid needing and extra adapter (if other countries plugs) here, just choose the UK plug variant.
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Lastly, warranty..... I checked the page and couldn't find where it states available warranty. Try not to read much into that especially since you purchasing from the official seller and will have to ship overseas if anything happens within the period. If it's important to you? Then I suggest you buy local and from a seller who'll handle such for you. Albeit, it'll be slightly more expensive.. Seller gotta eat.  biggrin.gif.. Either way, Mecool is a decent manufacturer and you won't go wrong (much) with the KM3.
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Doesn't play games but maybe some retro games for kids when they come by with a controller or something else but most android games required a touch screen to function and gyro sensor , i doubt any android games works except rooted and install some controller mapped apps.

Most of the usage is watch youtube and some drama apps.

Can' t find much to compare https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11ky...PKuc/edit#gid=0

1. Some mention able to get astr0 to go working but I am not sure.
2. Does the wifi signal receiver strong enough get signal ? i mean KM3 ?
3. Talking about comparing , KM3 vs M8S Pro L any different beside the ram and storage space ? I think 64GB quite enough for me
4. Support pendrive or larger size like enough power to powerup an external hard disk 2.5 WD 2TB ?
5. As I search not much of warranty at them.Even local seller 6 months only , with extra rm50
6. How well does KM3 watch youtube in 1080p in a browser ? I mean without using a youtube apps ?
7. The price range is rm300-400 ?
9. Easy to root ? reason for game backup and uninstall some unwanted apps
10. Can change interface or or flash to ASOP ?
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post Nov 6 2019, 10:40 PM

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Does mecool m8s pro l still reliable ? worth to get it now ?
What is the price range ? normally how many space left if choose 16GB ? because after install with android rom will become less.

Main usage
-youtube
-kodi
- Important to watch video with a browser that support html5.


I don't know how many of you all notice , Youtube Live Stream on apps cannot rewind back but on browser I can rewind back or drag what i miss.
Normally using mouse to drag.

Can mecool , change to default stock launcher or install nova launcher. (saw mecool launcher , may not be suitable for elderly usage )

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post Nov 7 2019, 06:39 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 6 2019, 11:57 PM)
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Hmmm...Interesting.. I've never bothered to try rewinding an ongoing live stream outside a PC environment. I'll be sure to test for that on other devices going forward. Thanks.. Yes, most boxes running regular Android OS will allows you to easily install a third-party launcher such as Nova or ATV, etc.. It's just a matter of compatibility upon launch and how stable it is as default.
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Basic entertainment usage elder may not know how to click or drag on different launcher interface , basic android stock is the best for them.

As for youtube and some apps running but need html5 to run browser on youtube live stream or other apps live sport browser support.Sometimes every apps have different way to manual which not suitable for elder.Browser just bookmark and just full screen can be done in few clicks.
Browser will be using -firefox + ublock plugin.Not sure whether you had tested it.

Btw , I didn't get any reply yet about the size left for 16GB mecool pro l left on stock ? adding youtube would be around 200mb or a few apps 1GB max.Kodi took another 300mb and browser about 100-150mb+

What will the current price of 16GB range ? I saw some oversea which sub RM200 not sure whether they have warranty in it.Worth it in 11.11 ?

Forgot to ask , does it support 2.5 HD power up ?



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post Nov 8 2019, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 7 2019, 01:17 PM)
Like I always tell.. Don't go buying these stuff for "elderly" people.. If anyone has concerns about them using it properly? get them a truly smart TV and or an Astro sub with decoder. They'll thank you for it. This cord cutter's path is NOT for the physically or technologically challenged. People already live dunno how long, least we can do is to not over-complicate the rest of their lives. The easiest YouTube-wise is a Samsung/LG TV with YouTube app.. There's also Netflix.. Also, there are huge (depending on screen size) buttons distinctly showing the FF/RW/Play/Pause/Next/Back, etc buttons on the screen. All these are remote friendly. So directional arrows will work smoothly.  There's nothing to "click & drag". Similarly with the YouTube/Netflix app on ATV OS.. Matter of fact, the entire ATV OS is designed to be directional arrows friendly. It's when one installs an incompatible (regular android OS) app, that the whole click and drag to simulate touchscreen is an issue. Else... It's not...

As for storage.. IIRC.. The Minix Neo U1, with stock fw should give around 8GB free from the 16GB eMMC ROM. Kodi can run up to 1GB and more over time, YouTube (ATV version) and the rest will take up a couple hundred MBs too. If you plan on mostly streaming content using the cache/buffer style system.. The remaining storage won't be an issue. However, should you be doing the download first and complete before or during playback? And it's a file that's larger than the 5-6GB ish storage left? That file won't run. I'm talking p2p stuffs here.

As for price... I honestly can't go hunting around for the best deal for you.. So buy from a reputable source.. where ever that may be.. There are plenty reputable sellers and online platforms out there. Just choose one. Most often than not, there's no warranty on such devices. Especially if you are looking to buy for cheap.. Why? Warranty costs extra..There's stress and real money cost involved in claiming the warranty from the manufacturer in China, USA, etc.. All this seller has to consider before putting up selling price.

Do you mean a powered HD hub with a 2.5" SSD and or powered/non-powered normal ext HDs? Most boxes should be able to handle such.. Just depends on the device itself's USB port has enough power to drive the HD or not.
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Thanks for the long detail explanation notworthy.gif
The usage will be me or elderly.

I choose mecool because got voice control for elderly https://youtu.be/67zNni1Fqko?t=480 .But I am not sure whether how well is mecool perfrom on voice control because i didn't own it but on phone they are doing well.
The mouse on remote control is extra pointer but the interface is a must to change if they really not familiar.

Not using for nextfilx but more on youtube , smart tv cannot swipe and more complicated to press every letter and even more complicated for searching.
Youtube = them and for me anything will do.
At most , i think if they really don't know , mecool can do mirror cast like most smart tv.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oefyzApPp6g on their phone.

16gb is enough.
I saw you always post buying from Gearbest.com Do they have warranty ? how long is the shipping ? can give a complete guide buying from gearbest ? tax required ?

Yeh, the 2.5 HD 2TB.Not ssd.I worry it doesnt have enough power for plugging mouse receiver and HD together.

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 8 2019, 01:34 PM)
Maxieos.. There you have it. Get a later model like the KM9 Pro.. ATV OS as stock with voice remote... Unless you still want to wait on the Beelink GT1 Mini-2 Android TV Box with new S905X3 SoC. The latter is more expensive though.
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Km9 pro same price as m8s pro L ?
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/mecool-k...1189748771.html
Worth to get ?

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 9 2019, 06:53 AM)
<RM200 is a great price already... Pull the trigger.
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What is the price range of it ? worry come with lemon unit and can't return since it's oversea moreover it's without warranty.I don't know how laz charge for shipping oversea defected product.
I don't know which buyer is reliable or someone had bought before a oversea merchant shop can recommend some to me ?
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post Dec 22 2019, 06:35 AM

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There are few things i am not sure about android box system.
I saw a few demo set along those store.

1.How do I disable or remove those launcher interface ? each android box have their launcher which is hard to navigate using a remote control.I just prefer something simple like stock android which apps are just on the front page.I worry after remove or disable will crash and boot loop.
2. Which so many android box , some are with remote control but no shutdown button but with only sleep red button.Is there a way to totally poweroff the device rather than sleep mode ? All the android box with their own interface doesn't have a turn off button ? tested long press will not work.
3. How do i block ads from a various apps in 1 go ? as for non rooted box , is it possible to block all popup or google ads from every apps ? some ads are unrelated and worry when they click it and brings up a browser and install some malware.
4. Does android box allow rooting ? SOme apps are include data/data which I wanted to backup.Does sdk tools allow to pull data/data from the androidbox without rooting ?
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 22 2019, 07:16 AM)
You will need to have at least one launcher. You can have mulitiple launchers. If you don't like the current launcher, you could install and check if other launcher works.
This is usually configurable, to go to sleep or to go to shutdown. And firmware specific.
This case to case depends on the apps you installed. Some apps the ads go away if you pay. If you are rooted, you can try 'Adaway' to remove ads, but it is not 100% effective.
Depends on the boxes you bought. Some boxes cannot be rooted. Some boxes are rooted by default.
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1. How do I set and disable a launcher ? is it a good idea ? some launcher Interface give less information.Still prefer android stock widget which I can add Analog clock time , Weather widget and bandwidth usage widget and even some news feed.Some android box Interface just like microsoft win10 launcher.

2. Didn't go to setting since it's on demo set.But the remote are on sleep mode.No option for shutdown.

3. I found the only way is to route a traffic via VPN to block ads for non root user.There are a few ads block.But I feel all of our apps info are routed to their vpn.Worry those vpn doesn't keep our privacy.Such as facebok and browser history.Some apps tv needed malaysia IP if it route to a vpn with non malaysia ip address will not work.

4. I am still deciding whether get with unroot or rooted box.Which one do you suggest ? Sometimes , some apps need to backup with data/data.Which android box have a fuction to easy unroot and root or 1 click root ? https://www.xda-developers.com/best-one-click-root-2018/




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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 23 2019, 06:48 AM)
There is something called default launcher. When you have multiple launchers and no default, when you press home button, android will prompt you to pick one launcher to run. When a default is set, then no more prompting. You can also clear the default.

Not all launchers will run, many firmware have limited platform libraries installed, so only limited number of launchers can run well.

So behaviour is depending on box A to box B.
Nothing specific can be mentioned if no brand is mentioned as all these are mostly varies from one box to another.
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I went for AliceUX for a test , there is no option on checking background apps running.I done a check , there is no option to change default launcher.I would rather change back to default android launcher like stock asop.Much more easier to navigate with mouse.

Any guide on youtube ? I can't find the interface alice.Not able to check background apps or cache running or disable the launcher.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 24 2019, 12:06 AM)
Please take some time to read page one completely and understand it.. Then read the last 20 or so pages to get familiar. Most of the "Issues" you are encountering are primarily cuz you went to view some dunno what boxes... A good box will handle all these "issues".. Pls don't ask me which is a good box just yet..Got a few and dependent on few factors.. Do some reading first.. No extreme spoon-feeding. Return when you are wiser.. Sure entertain properly.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yeh, surely knew less about those box.As I remember reading along , box like Nvidia Shield , minix besides the box also must contain a good chipset like Amlogic rather than a box.Middle range would be mecool.
I google out some interface are tanix or svi or evpad which I am not able to see those background process apps running.No option to set or view the process.


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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 25 2019, 08:36 AM)
Because nobody worries about it. They think the built in house keeping mechanism of android is good enough.

But hey if you are so worried, you can install additional apps to do it.
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At first I though android box is just an ASOP with additional tweak on launcher on taskbar.That is all.I never know , even on android box , I can't access some function.
Not familiar with additional apps , which apps to install directly refer to apps cache ? such as picture below ?
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https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/androi...ackground-kill/
This is the most basic android default settting.Actually i too doesn't care much but while I looking on those box with 16GB and 2GB ram , I wonder how tv apps able to cache on just 500MB of ram.Without knowing which apps is high resoucres usge on ram and etc on background.

QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 25 2019, 10:00 AM)
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If I may ask, why does being able to view running processes interest you?
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Yeh , I saw a lot of review on minix on youtube and on their airmouse too.I do understand most user here just mean to running their media apps and doesn't care much on other issue.

My post above , most cheaper model with 16GB 2GB ram will have ram running issue.Remember I asked about 2GB ram about mecool and minix you mention before ? both having a good firmware and interface may have a good ram management.
As for those lower ends android box with 2GB ram (evapd , tanix or what ever box i saw along the demo) will have an issue here.The standard minimum usage of android 7.0 need about 1.2GB of ram.Not to mention when a lot of apps running on background.Some tv apps tend to hook up on the background on the ram or cache.A standard google service already took over 300MB ram.Not to mention Atog , kodi or netfilix and other tvapps running on the background.

Besides , it also important to know whether there are virus install on the android box.Without able to view is quite dangerous.Lag , high CPU usage and even high temp 80'c or above will cause the hardware to fail in faster timeframe.
You know , most free media tv apps tend to have a lot of ads which we sometimes unintentionally click ok to install.

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