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post Apr 18 2019, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 17 2019, 11:27 PM)
Bro.. just had my 100mbps unifi and subscribed for netflix which is free for 1st month..
But i see not so outstanding collection.. even i tried to search some old movies not able to find.. example LOTR,HOBBITS cannot be found
I thought it works better than free apps i used to watch movies where hell of collection old movies example popcorn..
But NETFLIX... is it different country has different collection and restrictions ?
I thought NETFLIX TV APP has issues, so downloaded app in my mobile and did searching yet same those movies cannot be found.

Another thing i tried to play UHD 4K movies but in my smart tv not full resolution, the screen not stretched even setting is 16:9
Most of the UHD 4K OR HDR movies not full stretched..
I even called NETFLIX support service, they claimed it depends on title and not all movies will.play full screen is that true ?
Checked the profile setting in mobile app anything related to the quality, since in TV NETFLIX no much settings. Just basic.
So in mobile app, checked the profile and changed from auto to high quality but no difference.

Below are the example on HDR & ULTRA HD 4K, title saying so but i have no idea whether the movie playing HDR/UHD4K. Puzzle
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LOTR is available in US if i am not wrong. You need to use a VPN or DNS service to use. I am using KeepSolid VPN.

Not quite sure what you meant by "not full stretched". I assume you mean your horizontal video have black bars at the side??? Black bar on top and bottom is normal.
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post Apr 18 2019, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 17 2019, 11:27 PM)
Bro.. just had my 100mbps unifi and subscribed for netflix which is free for 1st month..
But i see not so outstanding collection.. even i tried to search some old movies not able to find.. example LOTR,HOBBITS cannot be found
I thought it works better than free apps i used to watch movies where hell of collection old movies example popcorn..
But NETFLIX... is it different country has different collection and restrictions ?
I thought NETFLIX TV APP has issues, so downloaded app in my mobile and did searching yet same those movies cannot be found.

Another thing i tried to play UHD 4K movies but in my smart tv not full resolution, the screen not stretched even setting is 16:9
Most of the UHD 4K OR HDR movies not full stretched..
I even called NETFLIX support service, they claimed it depends on title and not all movies will.play full screen is that true ?
Checked the profile setting in mobile app anything related to the quality, since in TV NETFLIX no much settings. Just basic.
So in mobile app, checked the profile and changed from auto to high quality but no difference.

Below are the example on HDR & ULTRA HD 4K, title saying so but i have no idea whether the movie playing HDR/UHD4K. Puzzle
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Hmm..Firstly.. this is definitely off topic already... So I'll be brief and won't be able to pursue this any further in here.. There's a "dedicated" Netflix thread where we can pursue further and or you can read to glean more information. I took us over there.. Here is for Android Boxes..

This post has been edited by voncrane: Apr 18 2019, 12:07 PM
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post Apr 18 2019, 06:40 PM

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Brothers.. just checked some android box in digital mall here. Some of them giving inputs, was watching what they do aftet buy boxes and extra. Clarified on the boxes.

They saying not all box can support netflix 4k, can install but just plays 720p. Only netflix compatible can play like appletv or nvidea shield.
According to him appletv, want to pay for streaming.
Not open like rest.

Himedia Q10pro seems 4k Uhd dolby supported can install any app. Can insert additional storage.
Default 2gb ram 16gb capacity. Better performance with good wifi antena
Price rm529 with remote.

Skybox looks smaller, not supporting 4kUHD. Can install any apps. Skysports
Price about rm400..
apps will be installed

Neo u9h minix seems better performance, can install any app. Hav restriction for skysports. Supprt 4K HDR DOLBY.
Netflix 720p ? Comes blank have to install everything
Price rm599 with airmouse 2.

Mibox, price 399, apps need to install own.

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post Apr 18 2019, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 18 2019, 06:40 PM)
Brothers.. just checked some android box in digital mall here. Some of them giving inputs, was watching what they do aftet buy boxes and extra. Clarified on the boxes.

They saying not all box can support netflix 4k, can install but just plays 720p. Only netflix compatible can play like appletv or nvidea shield.
According to him appletv, want to pay for streaming.
Not open like rest.

Himedia Q10pro seems 4k Uhd dolby supported can install any app. Can insert additional storage.
Default 2gb ram 16gb capacity. Better performance with good wifi antena
Price rm529 with remote.

Skybox looks smaller, not supporting 4kUHD. Can install any apps. Skysports
Price about rm400..
apps will be installed

Neo u9h minix seems better performance, can install any app. Hav restriction for skysports. Supprt 4K HDR DOLBY.
Netflix 720p ? Comes blank have to install everything
Price rm599 with airmouse 2.

Mibox, price 399, apps need to install own.

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If your main reason is Netflix 4K, get only Nvidia Shield (Android TV OS) or Apple TV 4K Box (Apple TV OS).

If you want more freedom on application, then only Nvidia Shield.

If you no budget and don't might the performance (every startup need few minutes to let it settle down and load smooth) or bugs, then get Mi Box (Android TV OS) (make sure it is international and no root version)

Others box that play Netflix 4K include Amazon Fire, Amazon Fire Cube which need purchase from overseas and I don't very recommended it unless you are big fans of Amazon and watch Amazon Prime.

The rest most is Android Mobile OS TV Box and not support Netflix in 4K, not even in 1080p.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 18 2019, 07:02 PM
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post Apr 18 2019, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 18 2019, 06:40 PM)
Brothers.. just checked some android box in digital mall here. Some of them giving inputs, was watching what they do aftet buy boxes and extra. Clarified on the boxes.

They saying not all box can support netflix 4k, can install but just plays 720p. Only netflix compatible can play like appletv or nvidea shield.
According to him appletv, want to pay for streaming.
Not open like rest.

Himedia Q10pro seems 4k Uhd dolby supported can install any app. Can insert additional storage.
Default 2gb ram 16gb capacity. Better performance with good wifi antena
Price rm529 with remote.

Skybox looks smaller, not supporting 4kUHD. Can install any apps. Skysports
Price about rm400..
apps will be installed

Neo u9h minix seems better performance, can install any app. Hav restriction for skysports. Supprt 4K HDR DOLBY.
Netflix 720p ? Comes blank have to install everything
Price rm599 with airmouse 2.

Mibox, price 399, apps need to install own.

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Bruh.. Seems like you not following my advice. You already have a smart tv to handle Netflix at native res and surround sound. Focus on other things.. I gave recommendations and explanations.. All you have to do is read and decide.. It's a done deal. Later you go and get sold snake oil.. Don't complain yeah..
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post Apr 19 2019, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 18 2019, 11:03 PM)
Bruh.. Seems like you not following my advice. You already have a smart tv to handle Netflix at native res and surround sound. Focus on other things.. I gave recommendations and explanations.. All you have to do is read and decide.. It's a done deal. Later you go and get sold snake oil.. Don't complain yeah..
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GHOSTVIC ...

Other options to just get a reasonable good budget entry box to compliment your smart tv further..

Mecool on SALE!

This post has been edited by Scissorshand: Apr 19 2019, 05:26 PM
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post Apr 19 2019, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Apr 19 2019, 05:23 PM)
GHOSTVIC ...

Other options to just get a reasonable good budget entry box to compliment your smart tv further..

Mecool on SALE!
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Sure, i would have suggested that, except it he wanted ATMOS support.. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the Mecool KM3 better than the KM9 Pro? rclxub.gif.. Why they have to name it as such.. Even I, initially assumed that the KM9 Pro due to the naming and not released long ago would be the most recent.. Turns out it's the KM3. Improved specs over the KM9 includes..
*64GB vs 32 GB ROM (much welcome)..
*HDMI 2.1 with dynamic HDR and HDCP 2.2 VS 2.0a with HDR
*Wireless AC vs B/G/N (performance improvement? unknown)..

Sadly, they still stick with 10/100 and no Gigabit Ethernet.. Wonder why.. hmm.gif

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post Apr 19 2019, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 19 2019, 10:02 PM)
Sure, i would have suggested that, except it he wanted ATMOS support.. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the Mecool KM3 better than the KM9 Pro?  rclxub.gif.. Why they have to name it as such.. Even I, initially assumed that the KM9 Pro due to the naming and not released long ago would be the most recent.. Turns out it's the KM3. Improved specs over the KM9 includes..
*64GB vs 32 GB ROM (much welcome)..
*HDMI 2.1 with dynamic HDR and HDCP 2.2 VS 2.0a with HDR
*Wireless AC vs B/G/N (performance improvement? unknown)..

Sadly, they still stick with 10/100 and no Gigabit Ethernet.. Wonder why.. hmm.gif
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If GHOSTVIC need Netflix in Dolby Atmos. The only TV box support is Apple TV 4K. Another solution is buy a new TV that support it except Samsung brand as no Samsung TV is supporting Dolby Atmos.

Nvidia Shield do support Dolby Atmos in others apps but not for Netflix.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/64066

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 19 2019, 11:34 PM
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post Apr 20 2019, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 19 2019, 11:30 PM)
If GHOSTVIC need Netflix in Dolby Atmos. The only TV box support is Apple TV 4K. Another solution is buy a new TV that support it except Samsung brand as no Samsung TV is supporting Dolby Atmos.

Nvidia Shield do support Dolby Atmos in others apps but not for Netflix.

https://help.netflix.com/en/node/64066
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Nope.. Not for Netflix.. For other files playback. Besides, the Apple TV can't cater to his other requirements. Ehem stuff.

Other supporting devices.. Officially from Netflix..
LG OLED TVs (2017 or newer models)
Panasonic TVs (2019 or newer models)
Pixela 4K Smart Tuner
Roku TVs (2018 or newer models)
Sony BRAVIA Android TVs (2018 or newer models)
Toshiba TVs (2019 or newer models)
Vizio TVs (2018 or newer models)
Windows 10 computer or tablet (requires Windows 10 RS3 Build 16299 or later)
Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X.

This post has been edited by voncrane: Apr 20 2019, 12:22 AM
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post Apr 20 2019, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 20 2019, 12:20 AM)
Nope.. Not for Netflix.. For other files playback. Besides, the Apple TV can't cater to his other requirements. Ehem stuff.

Other supporting devices.. Officially from Netflix..
LG OLED TVs (2017 or newer models)
Panasonic TVs (2019 or newer models)
Pixela 4K Smart Tuner
Roku TVs (2018 or newer models)
Sony BRAVIA Android TVs (2018 or newer models)
Toshiba TVs (2019 or newer models)
Vizio TVs (2018 or newer models)
Windows 10 computer or tablet (requires Windows 10 RS3 Build 16299 or later)
Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X.
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Yup, that why I said the other solution is buy a new TV as the only TV box support is Apple TV 4K and also Pixela (this is for Japan country).

Apple TV 4K can play ahem staff but not in streaming format. Plex and infuse is two apps that playback downloadable ahem movie. Haha! biggrin.gif
But both not support Dolby Atmos as Apple disable it, everything play in Plex and Infuse will be convert to PCM up to 7.1 channel.

Wait they is still got one option, buy the XBox gaming device.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 20 2019, 12:58 AM
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post Apr 20 2019, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 20 2019, 12:41 AM)
Yup, that why I said the other solution is buy a new TV as the only TV box support is Apple TV 4K and also Pixela (this is for Japan country).

Apple TV 4K can play ahem staff but not in streaming format. Plex and infuse is two apps that playback downloadable ahem movie. Haha! biggrin.gif
But both not support Dolby Atmos as Apple disable it, everything play in Plex and Infuse will be convert to PCM up to 7.1 channel.

Wait they is still got one option, buy the XBox gaming device.
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True.. But ayam not like Apple ecosystem.. Too many unnecessary walls and cuddling. I get it some folks just want things handled.. Good for them.. I also don't like Plex either, it's nice, fancy and all.. But I'd rather fetch and play directly a source file.. No transcoding or assists.. Just pass along the raw file and let the AV system do it's work. Speaking of which.. My HT is acting up, time to test HM's extended warranty policy. See if can score a later model for free, if they can't fix it.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 20 2019, 12:55 AM)
True.. But ayam not like Apple ecosystem.. Too many unnecessary walls and cuddling. I get it some folks just want things handled.. Good for them.. I also don't like Plex either, it's nice, fancy and all.. But I'd rather fetch and play directly a source file.. No transcoding or assists.. Just pass along the raw file and let the AV system do it's work. Speaking of which.. My HT is acting up, time to test HM's extended warranty policy. See if can score a later model for free, if they can't fix it.. laugh.gif
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Plex no longer transcoding, it can be set play original format. But I don't use Plex also, I only use it for movie information database. Plex still not playing very smooth in 4K HDR movie at Apple TV 4K device where the image will jumping from time to time.

Local download movie playback in Apple TV 4K I always use Infuse because it is freaking smooth for all kind of movie I throw in nor-matter how big the bitrate are. The cons of Infuse is it need others apps to control the movie information database, that the reason I use Plex in PC for auto collecting the movie information / put my preferable cover.

Actually until now I can't find a box that do all what I want.
  • Apple TV 4K - support Netflix and iTunes in Dolby Atmos but not in apps that not using streaming method, thus Plex and Infuse output sound in multi-channel PCM (up to 7.1 depends on source).
  • Nvidia Shield - support Dolby Atmos in Plex or Kodi but not support in Netflix.
Haizz! when can I have a TV Box that support Netflix in Dolby Atmos and also local movie playback in Dolby Atmos...
I don't want two box because my SoundBar only have 1 HDMI-IN.
HDMI splitter wise I haven't try and I not sure got HDMI splitter support Full RGB / 4:4:4 YUV @ 4K HDR output or not.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 20 2019, 01:38 AM
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U use Dolby atmos on a soundbar?
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Apr 20 2019, 11:41 AM)
U use Dolby atmos on a soundbar?
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Yup, I am using LG SK9Y,
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 20 2019, 12:58 AM)
Plex no longer transcoding, it can be set play original format. But I don't use Plex also, I only use it for movie information database. Plex still not playing very smooth in 4K HDR movie at Apple TV 4K device where the image will jumping from time to time.

Local download movie playback in Apple TV 4K I always use Infuse because it is freaking smooth for all kind of movie I throw in nor-matter how big the bitrate are. The cons of Infuse is it need others apps to control the movie information database, that the reason I use Plex in PC for auto collecting the movie information / put my preferable cover.

Actually until now I can't find a box that do all what I want.


  • Apple TV 4K - support Netflix and iTunes in Dolby Atmos but not in apps that not using streaming method, thus Plex and Infuse output sound in multi-channel PCM (up to 7.1 depends on source).

  • Nvidia Shield - support Dolby Atmos in Plex or Kodi but not support in Netflix.

Haizz! when can I have a TV Box that support Netflix in Dolby Atmos and also local movie playback in Dolby Atmos...
I don't want two box because my SoundBar only have 1 HDMI-IN.
HDMI splitter wise I haven't try and I not sure got HDMI splitter support Full RGB / 4:4:4 YUV @ 4K HDR output or not.
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I understand.. There's not a single perfect box. TBH, if there isn't a perfect phone or car or even house.. Won't be expecting same from a single box manufacturer. Else, how to sell later and make more profit.. laugh.gif.. Which is why I'm grateful hat I don't have to upgrade my AV equipment just yet. But in a couple years, definitely have to.. Hoping by then that even smarter TVs and decent boxes will be out. So one TV, box, AVR and surround speakers will do all the job nicely.

I too can't speak for splitters.. But there should be at least one splitter that can accurately and reliable transfer the signals from multiple sources to a recriver..no hassle... And with a wireless remote to switch between sources from the couch. Either that.. Or you too have to upgrade to AVR d.. Oh yeah, soundbars....IMO shakehead.gif It's worse than pseudo UHD from Netflix compared to the real thing. But hey, works for you I guess. I wouldn't use such for even DD5.1 audio..

QUOTE(Lurker @ Apr 20 2019, 11:41 AM)
U use Dolby atmos on a soundbar?
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IKR... shocking.gif . Should be with overhead speakers setup.. sweat.gif

This post has been edited by voncrane: Apr 20 2019, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 20 2019, 01:22 PM)
I understand.. There's not a single perfect box. TBH, if there isn't a perfect phone or car or even house.. Won't be expecting same from a single box manufacturer. Else, how to sell later and make more profit.. laugh.gif.. Which is why I'm grateful hat I don't have to upgrade my AV equipment just yet. But in a couple years, definitely have to.. Hoping by then that even smarter TVs and decent boxes will be out. So one TV, box, AVR and surround speakers will do all the job nicely.

I too can't speak for splitters.. But there should be at least one splitter that can accurately and reliable transfer the signals from multiple sources to a recriver..no hassle... And with a wireless remote to switch between sources from the couch. Either that.. Or you too have to upgrade to AVR d.. Oh yeah, soundbars....IMO  shakehead.gif  It's worse than pseudo UHD from Netflix compared to the real thing. But hey, works for you I guess. I wouldn't use such for even DD5.1 audio..
IKR... shocking.gif . Should be with overhead speakers setup..  sweat.gif
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Yalo, true also.

My current LG SK9Y soundbar is enough for me. smile.gif Haha! Remember I using TV speaker previously. tongue.gif

Splitter I will find out later and hope it won't waste my money purchase it. Haha! Great to know they is wireless connection to change it.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 20 2019, 01:40 PM)
Yalo, true also.

My current LG SK9Y soundbar is enough for me. smile.gif Haha! Remember I using TV speaker previously. tongue.gif

Splitter I will find out later and hope it won't waste my money purchase it. Haha! Great to know they is wireless connection to change it.
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There are ones with IR remote.. This one confirm have.. But as per IR limitations.. Must place the receiver and point...line of sight.. I prefer having things tucked away if can.. So need to search if got Bluetooth or similar type now. Nevertheless, most important is that it does the switches passthrough style.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 20 2019, 03:53 PM)
There are ones with IR remote.. This one confirm have.. But as per IR limitations.. Must place the receiver and point...line of sight.. I prefer having things tucked away if can.. So need to search if got Bluetooth or similar type now. Nevertheless, most important is that it does the switches passthrough style.
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Going to check out now, is time digging the internet. Haha! Thanks for let me know such thing exist. smile.gif
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hi need help
my tv cant detect signal from my tv box
my dvbt2 box unable to send signal
it switch on and shows boot logo for a second then shows ----
then nothing....

what can i do ?
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QUOTE(megadisc @ Apr 21 2019, 12:04 AM)
hi need help
my tv cant detect signal from my tv box
my dvbt2 box unable to send signal
it switch on and shows boot logo for a second then shows ----
then nothing....

what can i do ?
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Since the TV is able to show the boot logo and then blanks out? It's able to detect the signals, it's just the box no sending the right ones. Box is probably stuck in a boot loop. If you can access it's recovery mode, try booting there to clear the cache and dalvik.. See if that helps. Else, try a factory reset.

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