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 Insurance Talk V4!, Anything and everything about Insurance

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post Aug 18 2017, 10:17 PM

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try https://www.rentalcover.com/excess-coverage-new-zealand for motorhome excess reduction plan
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looks good. Good reviews also on Trustpilot. But I prefer local because I think it might be easier to deal with local company compared to overseas..
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post Aug 19 2017, 10:46 AM

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Parking..

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post Aug 19 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Weezy @ Aug 19 2017, 10:46 AM)
Parking..

Taking my PCE on Monday
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Good luck and welcome to this amazing industry in advance 🤓
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post Aug 19 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Aug 19 2017, 10:52 AM)
Good luck and welcome to this amazing industry in advance 🤓
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Thanks bro

Btw I'm joining HLA

Any advice and tips for newbie? Can PM if not suitable for public

Thank you
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post Aug 19 2017, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Weezy @ Aug 19 2017, 11:54 AM)
Thanks bro

Btw I'm joining HLA

Any advice and tips for newbie? Can PM if not suitable for public

Thank you
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Why HLB not AIA?
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post Aug 19 2017, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Aug 19 2017, 02:33 PM)
Why HLB not AIA?
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AIA better? Know few GE and PU agent also can achieve MDRT.
I think skill matters
SUSMNet
post Aug 19 2017, 07:37 PM

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the product matters too
knight
post Aug 20 2017, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Aug 17 2017, 07:23 PM)
You are entitled to 4 free switch a year
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I see. So I can still switch. ok, will check it out from my insurance. No need ask agent coz I think he disappeared oledi long time.

QUOTE(Holocene @ Aug 17 2017, 07:23 PM)
It is possible to withdraw a portion of the cash value, please consult your servicing agent for further info.

Best,
Jiansheng
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OK. Thanks.

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Aug 17 2017, 07:23 PM)
4% for an insurance product is considered above average considering it's only been 5 years for a high risk profile.

If you decide to take this money out, then might as well opt for a term insurance and invest the rest of the money. But you have to bear in mind that any difference that you earn from your own investment needs to be kept for your insurance in the future as your premium increases.

If you don't have the discipline to do the above then you will have problem in the future in managing your insurance policies.
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Basically I buy this insurance for the purpose of insured only. I get IL policy coz its cheaper. What I need is protection like DB, CI, and Medical card etc. Since It's that low, I thinking if can I'm pulling it out to invest other things. Even put in Unit Trust also better as I got more freedom on my investment.

If not mistaken, lets say my IL premium is RM400, even the insurance increase every year, I will still pay RM400. Just my investment portion is reduce. Correct right?

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post Aug 21 2017, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(knight @ Aug 20 2017, 05:35 PM)
I see. So I can still switch. ok, will check it out from my insurance. No need ask agent coz I think he disappeared oledi long time.
OK. Thanks.
Basically I buy this insurance for the purpose of insured only. I get IL policy coz its cheaper. What I need is protection like DB, CI, and Medical card etc. Since It's that low, I thinking if can I'm pulling it out to invest other things. Even put in Unit Trust also better as I got more freedom on my investment. 

If not mistaken, lets say my IL premium is RM400, even the insurance increase every year, I will still pay RM400. Just my investment portion is reduce. Correct right?
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If not mistaken, lets say my IL premium is RM400, even the insurance increase every year, I will still pay RM400. Just my investment portion is reduce. Correct right?


Yeap you're right
Mr.Weezy
post Aug 21 2017, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Aug 19 2017, 07:37 PM)
the product matters too
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I thought the products are more or less the same ?
Holocene
post Aug 21 2017, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Weezy @ Aug 21 2017, 10:07 AM)
I thought the products are more or less the same ?
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HLA also a lot of MDRT, don't worry.
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post Aug 21 2017, 10:10 PM

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Hi all, wanna ask.

Is it better to buy each type of insurance coverage separately ? or all in one package ?
Example : Medical card x 1, 36 illness x1 , life x1 or 3 combine in 1 ?

2nd. I have a scenario where
purchase a Life/TPD with Investment insurance about 5 years back which max cover RM250k and each year premium pay RM2400.

and now another company was offer same price but max cover is RM500k....
** both are same type of insurance which only cover Life/TPD with investment.

and Sifu , what is your advice if come to this situation ? Should surrender the old policy and took the new one (i not afford remain both policy at the same time, but if surrender the old one, the cash i can get back after surrender is really less.)













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post Aug 21 2017, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(dragonteoh @ Aug 21 2017, 10:10 PM)
Hi all, wanna ask.

Is it better to buy each type of insurance coverage separately ? or all in one package ?
Example : Medical card  x 1, 36 illness x1 , life x1 or 3 combine in 1 ?

2nd. I have a scenario where
purchase a Life/TPD with Investment insurance about 5 years back which max cover RM250k and each year premium pay RM2400.

and now another company was offer same price but max cover is RM500k....
** both are same type of insurance which only cover Life/TPD with investment.

and Sifu , what is your advice if come to this situation ?  Should surrender the old policy and took the new one (i not afford remain both policy at the same time, but if surrender the old one, the cash i can get back after surrender is really less.)
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1) From my experience, combining is usually cheaper

2) check with your agent if you are able to increase your protection to Rm500k while maintaining your premium.

Asking a client to surrender an insurance policy, is a big no no. Check with your servicing agent on how you can manage your protection based on your budget.

Best,
Jiansheng
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post Aug 21 2017, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Aug 21 2017, 10:18 PM)
1) From my experience, combining is usually cheaper

2) check with your agent if you are able to increase your protection to Rm500k while maintaining your premium.

Asking a client to surrender an insurance policy, is a big no no. Check with your servicing agent on how you can manage your protection based on your budget.

Best,
Jiansheng
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Thanks Sifu Jiansheng for your explaination.

I did contact my own agent and he say his company does have a similar product, just that i don't think will be the same premium price as existing....
(most of the time need to top up premium price, i was ok if extra below RM50/annual, but if EACH month RM50 or more with same thing offer, this might be a problem).
However, i am arrange to meet him for more details. Let's see how later.

Thanks. rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by dragonteoh: Aug 21 2017, 10:54 PM
lifebalance
post Aug 22 2017, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(dragonteoh @ Aug 21 2017, 10:10 PM)
Hi all, wanna ask.

Is it better to buy each type of insurance coverage separately ? or all in one package ?
Example : Medical card  x 1, 36 illness x1 , life x1 or 3 combine in 1 ?

2nd. I have a scenario where
purchase a Life/TPD with Investment insurance about 5 years back which max cover RM250k and each year premium pay RM2400.

and now another company was offer same price but max cover is RM500k....
** both are same type of insurance which only cover Life/TPD with investment.

and Sifu , what is your advice if come to this situation ?  Should surrender the old policy and took the new one (i not afford remain both policy at the same time, but if surrender the old one, the cash i can get back after surrender is really less.)
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Difference in the premium could also affect the cash value of your policy with in return affect your policy sustainability

You should first question yourself why do you need to increase your coverage from 250k to 500k. What's the main purpose?

Then next question is are you able to afford the premium?

There are newer plans now that cover higher protection at a discounted premium which is minimum RM500k coverage while offering higher cash value than the usual ILP.

You should probably check with your existing agent if he's able to get the similar benefit, if not, how much are you required to top up from your existing policy to get the similar benefit?


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post Aug 22 2017, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Weezy @ Aug 19 2017, 10:46 AM)
Parking..

Taking my PCE on Monday
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how is it? nearer to being an agent? waiting for your good news laugh.gif

QUOTE(MNet @ Aug 19 2017, 07:37 PM)
the product matters too
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if product matters, i think i have to be insurance broker and sell all insurance companies product d.

QUOTE(knight @ Aug 20 2017, 05:35 PM)
I see. So I can still switch. ok, will check it out from my insurance. No need ask agent coz I think he disappeared oledi long time.
since your agent disappeared, either go straight up to the company or maybe agent from the company here can help you switch funds.

Basically I buy this insurance for the purpose of insured only. I get IL policy coz its cheaper. What I need is protection like DB, CI, and Medical card etc. Since It's that low, I thinking if can I'm pulling it out to invest other things. Even put in Unit Trust also better as I got more freedom on my investment. 
yes in this case it is for the insurance purpose. with the protection benefit you got, there isnt much return that u can get from this plan itself. you can invest in other areas/ wink.gif

If not mistaken, lets say my IL premium is RM400, even the insurance increase every year, I will still pay RM400. Just my investment portion is reduce. Correct right?
yes. in layman term, you are actually paying for the future increase cost of insurance first. pay more first to generate more to cover future cost.
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hi knight, replied as per above!

QUOTE(dragonteoh @ Aug 21 2017, 10:10 PM)
Hi all, wanna ask.

Is it better to buy each type of insurance coverage separately ? or all in one package ?
Example : Medical card  x 1, 36 illness x1 , life x1 or 3 combine in 1 ?
buy all in one package is more cost saving in a way. unless you dont need the other coverage. if you need all the insurance, buy all in one package.

2nd. I have a scenario where
purchase a Life/TPD with Investment insurance about 5 years back which max cover RM250k and each year premium pay RM2400.

and now another company was offer same price but max cover is RM500k....
** both are same type of insurance which only cover Life/TPD with investment.

and Sifu , what is your advice if come to this situation ?  Should surrender the old policy and took the new one (i not afford remain both policy at the same time, but if surrender the old one, the cash i can get back after surrender is really less.)
have to check whether the term of coverage of both product is the same or not. definitely will have difference in terms of cash value. see what's ur priority. we can't really guide you in decision making unless we can sit down and look through both plans and discuss with you
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hi dragonteoh, my reply in blue! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 22 2017, 03:25 PM

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*double posted*

This post has been edited by ckdenion: Aug 22 2017, 03:26 PM
Mr.Weezy
post Aug 22 2017, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 22 2017, 03:25 PM)
how is it? nearer to being an agent? waiting for your good news laugh.gif

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Sat for the test yesterday, passed. Sitting for CEILLI this Friday.

But got second thought on joining my agency after doing some digging hmm.gif
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post Aug 22 2017, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Weezy @ Aug 22 2017, 03:46 PM)
Sat for the test yesterday, passed. Sitting for CEILLI this Friday.

But got second thought on joining my agency after doing some digging hmm.gif
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Well what did you find?
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post Aug 22 2017, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Weezy @ Aug 22 2017, 03:46 PM)
Sat for the test yesterday, passed. Sitting for CEILLI this Friday.

But got second thought on joining my agency after doing some digging hmm.gif
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pass ur test first biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Holocene @ Aug 22 2017, 04:01 PM)
Well what did you find?
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this one not convenient to reveal here i guess. maybe he Mr.Weezy can reveal through private message.

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