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post Sep 27 2018, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Sep 20 2018, 09:32 AM)
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replied above. smile.gif

QUOTE(dman @ Sep 20 2018, 03:56 PM)
Anyone know which and how much the insurance premium cost to have death benefit/ TPD of 1m and above?
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it depends on individual profile - age, sex, occupation, smoker-nonsmoker

QUOTE(koo89 @ Sep 26 2018, 11:08 AM)
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depends on the plan bought. older batch medical cards do not have guarantee renewal clause. of course most companies latest medical plan comes with guarantee renewal clause though. really have to check the policy book terms and clauses.

QUOTE(513730 @ Sep 26 2018, 03:03 PM)
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really have no comment actually. so far when i go to their CS, it's ok. maybe once a while CS will have mistake... when it comes to CS complaints, indeed i think almost all companies also kena complained before laugh.gif
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post Sep 27 2018, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(jinchuan815 @ Sep 27 2018, 05:05 PM)
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first thing to point out here is the 100% cash rebate. obviously is sales talk. benefit wise yes nothing to be suspicious about as it is reflected in the quotation. it still depends on what purpose and need u buy for. both plan seems ok to me. only thing is price is still slightly at the high side. anyway both the agents know your situation best so i cant judge too much biggrin.gif
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post Sep 27 2018, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(jinchuan815 @ Sep 27 2018, 05:45 PM)
The almost same premium of RM200 - RM250 but the sum insured is RM100k vs RM500k. i thought it is abnormal?
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nope it is not abnormal. look at the cash value at the end. also my guess is the RM250/month will lapse earlier than the RM200/month. can only verify through quotation. im just judging from the surface. since you have the black and white, check the fine print.
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post Nov 20 2018, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Nov 14 2018, 01:55 PM)
Hi. What do think is an appropriate coverage (rider) for critical illness for a 30 year old woman?
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the most common one is those that covers all CI with early to advanced stage. if your concern is more to specific ones like cancer, heart attack or stroke, then can get specific plans that covers only the specific illness.

QUOTE(kaifahalas @ Nov 14 2018, 11:33 PM)
Hi,

I have just settled my housing loan 10 yrs earlier (thank you  epf  account 2) , i wonder what to do with my MRTA ???

Let it be
Ask for refund
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cancel and get pro-rate refund.

QUOTE(amacharu @ Nov 19 2018, 05:24 PM)
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nope. after claiming the CI from life insurance, it wont affect the medical insurance part for medical expenses.
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post Nov 22 2018, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Jdite @ Nov 22 2018, 05:26 PM)
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GE Smart Legacy is an Investment Linked Plan, and premium wise im not sure agent quote you the lowest or not. also for GE, our quoted premium must also make sure your policy can run at least 30 years. so dont just look at the premium amount. best is to focus on what benefit that you can get out of the plan smile.gif
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post Nov 24 2018, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(awgnasuha @ Nov 23 2018, 01:37 PM)
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in this case is the premium difference a lot? assuming both have the exact same benefits, i will go for AIA. though SunLife is new but it is not that bad either. just that AIA is more reputable if you compared it with SunLife. If budget allows, go for the AIA one.

QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Nov 23 2018, 07:48 PM)
Want to ask my GE medical card. If I fever then go Hospital. I need go pay anything? Tax is not cover by insurance company right?
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are you required for admission? if yes then highly likely you can just admit using the medical card (provided doctor provide the needed diagnosis report and any related test report). tax is covered. miscellaneous stuffs like admin fee, medical report fee (some insurance company covers but GE doesnt cover) and etc are not covered.

QUOTE(GamaX320 @ Nov 24 2018, 05:22 PM)
any suggestion which medical insurance suit fresh graduate?
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hmm... depends on your budget and needs. generally what is available in the market is mostly starting from 1mil annual limit coverage. unless your budget doesn't allow then only you go for lower options. you can start from here with given latest medical plan from 4 companies

AIA Latest Medical Plan
Great Eastern Latest Medical Plan
Allianz Latest Medical Plan
Prudential Latest Medical Plan
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post Nov 30 2018, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Nov 28 2018, 02:19 PM)
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cannot judge without looking at both products' PDS
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post Dec 3 2018, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(tonyckt @ Dec 1 2018, 04:44 PM)
Currently bought a life insurance with monthly Rm100 and coverage 200K.
Is it around market price ?
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there is no exact market rate actually. very hard to determine for you though. in conclusion, i will say everything got its fair price. low premium with high coverage, you sacrifice the cash value. high premium with low coverage, you get more cash value. end of the day it depends on what you want and what you need. different people have different needs.
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post Dec 6 2018, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Dec 5 2018, 04:41 AM)
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maybe it is not that they lowered the sustainable age of the policy, it is with the exponential insurance charges (is this a plan with medical rider?) factored in the loading, it cannot sustain that much. only way is to top up a little bit more on top of the loading to extend policy sustainability.

QUOTE(Lance XIII @ Dec 6 2018, 11:37 AM)
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feel free to ask anything here smile.gif its very hard to judge whether what you have is ideal for you or not based on only the premium that you are paying. it will be very unfair to judge without knowing the details. better to discuss with the agent you bought with.

QUOTE(Evolyn @ Dec 6 2018, 12:21 PM)
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yes you can. ringgitplus is one of the medium though. some company also offer online products like Prudential, AIA, AXA Affin and etc.

QUOTE(SharvinWin @ Dec 6 2018, 02:13 PM)
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replied in blue!
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post Dec 6 2018, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Lance XIII @ Dec 6 2018, 04:02 PM)
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haha it will be a very nice dicussion on that though. in terms of benefits, standalone medical and the medical rider in ILP are the same already with all the latest plan in the market. only thing is cost and other additional benefits in ILP. what did you find out after googling?

QUOTE(patrickchun93 @ Dec 6 2018, 05:00 PM)
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have to look at the insurance charge table in the policy contract document to know the amount.
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post Dec 7 2018, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Dec 6 2018, 08:34 PM)
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Stuff (A) - Since the Pantai Hospital bills can be claimed, by right Gleneagles one also can since under the employee benefit, it doesnt need hospitalization. must call and check again with the insurance company. Tell the customer service the scenario and ask exactly y the claim is declined.

Stuff (B) - Overall plan is ok so long you know the exact amount of coverage. any shortfall/insufficient amount can be topped up again when budget allows after that. smile.gif

QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Dec 6 2018, 09:15 PM)
the agent said

one is for death/disability. the other is if death due to accident then get extra. is that true?
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yes correct. meaning death due to non-accident 50k. if due to accident then will pay extra 100k
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post Dec 7 2018, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(patrickchun93 @ Dec 6 2018, 06:06 PM)
As far as I can remember, In the policy contract document, it only state RM 3300 for the life link and the other riders are 'N/A'. I did contact my agent regarding this issue but he told me that AIA will issue a statement on feb 2019 for tax purpose. I also asked him to give me a rough estimate but he said its hard for him to do so. Anyhow I will check back the policy contract to reconfirm.
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check the policy contract document for the exact charges for each benefits given. of course the yearly statement for tax relief purpose also states the portion that goes to the life insurance.

QUOTE(gedebe @ Dec 7 2018, 12:32 PM)
Now the issue is they have impose 40% loading at the same time lower my sustainable age, by doing so they are loading me twice and to me it is wrong, it must be load 1 time only.
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yes. my understanding is they imposed loading. and after imposing the loading, the policy sustainability is reduced right? the loading is not imposed twice actually. it is the charges when age increases, due to the loading as well, it increases a lot at the end of the day thus affecting policy sustainability.
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post Dec 8 2018, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Dec 8 2018, 02:19 AM)
yes it is, so i am not wrong to say that insurer load twice and to me it is not fair unless you could tell  me that they are both different thing.
You load me once that is already due to my cost of insurance is more expensive than others and then once again you say we have to lower the sustainability due to my cost of insurance again
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insurance charges is one of the factors that affect the policy sustainability.

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post Dec 9 2018, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Dec 9 2018, 12:18 AM)
so can i say that after loading premium the insurer still factor in another charge, this is loading twice, or there is something that you miss telling in your explanation
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what i mean is, since there is loading (meaning to say for your case company increase insurance charges incurred aka loading on your insurance charges), thus you need to pay more. meaning to say your insurance charges is higher compared to standard cases.

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post Dec 10 2018, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Mightypc @ Dec 10 2018, 02:51 PM)
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hmm... not happy with AIA customer service or your agent? its really subjective when it comes to this. basically almost every company also got customers complain before.

Anyway back to topic, medical plan is quite common whereby the available plans in the market offer at least RM1million a year medical claims.

For life insurance, a simple rule of thumb is make sure any amount payout can settle all your outstanding loans and also provide your family a certain x years of income.

whereas for critical illness payout benefit also, make sure amount is enough for at least 3 to 5 years transition period or best is at least a 100 months of income (or can be 60% - 70% of current income).

it all depends on your needs. there is no fixed amount. so long you know how well the plan can help you then you are good to go.
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post Dec 10 2018, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Mightypc @ Dec 10 2018, 05:14 PM)
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so it is agent's issue after all. then dont worry about that. we all are humans and cannot guarantee to serve whole life too. Most importantly you know which company you have your policy with then it is all good. so far i help my client to service their AIA policy, their customer service is ok to me. of course finding an agent that is willing to help most of the time is also important too.

QUOTE(Mightypc @ Dec 10 2018, 05:17 PM)
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if status change (married/having newborn/acquire new asset/etc...), then can review immediately. else once per year is the best of course. normally when i meet up with customers to have a casual makan makan also can do a review already.
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post Dec 10 2018, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Dec 10 2018, 05:37 PM)
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go for what you can currently afford then upgrade later after that when finance allows. smile.gif
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post Dec 11 2018, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Dec 10 2018, 11:33 PM)
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no comment on Tokio Marine but of course it is still a well known insurance company in other countries. if wanna compare, best is getting the same exact plan benefits with the same premium, compare side by side both plans then see which is better (that particular plan only, not in terms of which company is better in overall sense).

QUOTE(Mightypc @ Dec 11 2018, 09:26 AM)
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sure is financial planner? lately even some insurance agents also called themselves financial planner. financial planner must always think on behalf of clients.
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post Dec 11 2018, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Mightypc @ Dec 11 2018, 12:28 PM)
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yea totally understand that. so long they dont put that title in their namecard then still no proof that she called herself financial planner. financial planner should work on what you wanna achieve, not pushing products.

QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Dec 11 2018, 04:32 PM)
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upgrade means increasing/adding benefits to your existing policy. basically you can increase the coverage amount (life insurance/critical illness). of course it also depends on what plan it is. not all plans have the benefits that you want. best is tell agent everything that you want the insurance to cover for then see what agent can propose to you
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post Dec 13 2018, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Dec 13 2018, 10:09 AM)
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most medical insurance now, when you opt for a higher R&B than your medical R&B entitlement, you top up the difference.

QUOTE(watabakiu @ Dec 13 2018, 02:25 PM)
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the extra you pay upon discharged, after that only file the claims with another insurance's company medical plan.

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