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Holocene
post Feb 22 2017, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(chrisderick88 @ Feb 22 2017, 09:05 PM)
Just had a look at GE's investment linked plan's cost structure. Dammit they're creaming ~5k off me over 6yrs!
Anyone know some company that doesn't cream that much off my bottom line? (don't spam names only - show me some figure. biggrin.gif)
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What benefits were provided?
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post Feb 22 2017, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Feb 22 2017, 09:16 PM)
What benefits were provided?
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medical card && critical illness rider.
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post Feb 22 2017, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(chrisderick88 @ Feb 22 2017, 09:20 PM)
medical card && critical illness rider.
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Sum insured and limit?


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post Feb 22 2017, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Holocene @ Feb 22 2017, 09:21 PM)
Sum insured and limit?
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lifebalance
post Feb 22 2017, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(chrisderick88 @ Feb 22 2017, 09:05 PM)
Just had a look at GE's investment linked plan's cost structure. Dammit they're creaming ~5k off me over 6yrs!
Anyone know some company that doesn't cream that much off my bottom line? (don't spam names only - show me some figure. biggrin.gif)
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Depends on ur age, occupation, gender and whether you smoke

Perhaps you can provide me these info go check for you with some info of your current policy as there is no head or tail
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post Feb 25 2017, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 21 2017, 06:39 PM)
Hi bro

For you, Takaful is compulsory if you're Muslim. Opting for a conventional policy is a no no because of the Muslim distribution under faraid which conventional policy will not be able to help you pass 100% to the person you wish to gift.

You may consult your local life planner to get a professional advise.
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i do know some muslims who opt for conventional policies ohmy.gif
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post Feb 25 2017, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Feb 25 2017, 01:14 PM)
i do know some muslims who opt for conventional policies  ohmy.gif
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The life planner needs to educate them on the key difference between Takaful and conventional policies and shouldn't sell them a policy that goes against their religious practice.
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post Feb 27 2017, 01:55 PM

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looking for a life insurance.
42yo
non-smoker
office worker

looking for a payout of 500k ~ 1mio
dont want investment/saving linked.

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post Feb 27 2017, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(lkoky @ Feb 27 2017, 01:55 PM)
looking for a life insurance.
42yo
non-smoker
office worker

looking for a payout of 500k ~ 1mio
dont want investment/saving linked.
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Why not investment linked?
lkoky
post Feb 27 2017, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 27 2017, 01:56 PM)
Why not investment linked?
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just need insurance.


soulmad
post Feb 27 2017, 10:09 PM

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hi all sifu,

need some advice
my mum bought from this MXM
underwrite by pacific insurance
The HOD have leave and join pbbank which now partner with mxm for next medical plan
now mxm very aggressive ask to upgrade to Lonpac insurance
say a lot existing pacific customer have upgrade

so my worry is if there are medical condition currently
what if after the upgrade then the lonpac only say cant claim.

If I choose to stay can they corporate agency simply terminate the policy?
or they need to be responsible to cover for their customer ?
or my mum can straightly deal with pacific for renewal?

pls advice
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post Feb 27 2017, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(soulmad @ Feb 27 2017, 10:09 PM)
hi all sifu,

need some advice
my mum bought from this MXM
underwrite by pacific insurance
The HOD have leave and join pbbank which now partner with mxm for next medical plan
now mxm very aggressive ask to upgrade to Lonpac insurance
say a lot existing pacific customer have upgrade

so my worry is if there are medical condition currently
what if after the upgrade then the lonpac only say cant claim.

If I choose to stay can they corporate agency simply terminate the policy?
or they need to be responsible to cover for their customer ?
or my mum can straightly deal with pacific for renewal?

pls advice
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as far as I know MXM is like a MLM company selling life insurance with LonPac, there used to be a die-hard ambassador in here but I think he's no longer contributing to this thread after I exposed him.

Any upgrade on existing policies will require medical underwriting if there is any pre-existing illness. So if your mom is already above certain age or has any pre-existing illness, she'll need to declare it to the insurance company.

Now why are they asking you to upgrade in the first place ?

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If I choose to stay can they corporate agency simply terminate the policy?
or they need to be responsible to cover for their customer ?
or my mum can straightly deal with pacific for renewal?


With this regards, since you've bought from their company, it's best to call their company up and clarify what you've signed up previously.

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post Feb 28 2017, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(soulmad @ Feb 27 2017, 10:09 PM)
hi all sifu,

need some advice
my mum bought from this MXM
underwrite by pacific insurance
The HOD have leave and join pbbank which now partner with mxm for next medical plan
now mxm very aggressive ask to upgrade to Lonpac insurance
say a lot existing pacific customer have upgrade

so my worry is if there are medical condition currently
what if after the upgrade then the lonpac only say cant claim.

If I choose to stay can they corporate agency simply terminate the policy?
or they need to be responsible to cover for their customer ?
or my mum can straightly deal with pacific for renewal?

pls advice
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The insurance is an offer and acceptance process, meaning you apply and the insurer will offer (based on the known and acceptable risk).

Upon reviewing the proposal by the insurer it is ultimately up to you to whether accept the proposal or decline.

The same applies to upgrading. You need to fully declare any health condition that may impact how the policy is being underwrite.

Secondly for upgrading, there is no such thing as buy from company A, but upgrade with company B (unless B buys A).

For The Pacific Insurance, even though the plan is a standalone one, it is guaranteed to be renewed.

Any upgrade, it will have to go through Pacific Insurance and not Lonpac.

Suggest that you deal directly with Pacific Insurance if you want to upgrade.

Once they offer (due to the preexisting illness), you may decline if it is unfavorable for you to do so.

If you need contact person at Penang Pacific Insurance, I can email to you.

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post Feb 28 2017, 10:05 PM

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thanks all for your input
MXM is the corporate agent for pacific since 1998

so I think they wont simply terminate the policy
even thought MXM decided to pull out.
Give that my mom already over 60 yr old
there no point for her to upgrade to other co
anyone can confirm this?
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post Feb 28 2017, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 27 2017, 10:15 PM)
as far as I know MXM is like a MLM company selling life insurance with LonPac, there used to be a die-hard ambassador in here but I think he's no longer contributing to this thread after I exposed him.

Any upgrade on existing policies will require medical underwriting if there is any pre-existing illness. So if your mom is already above certain age or has any pre-existing illness, she'll need to declare it to the insurance company.

Now why are they asking you to upgrade in the first place ?
With this regards, since you've bought from their company, it's best to call their company up and clarify what you've signed up previously.
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asking to upgrade because it's company direction to sell only Lonpac new product
old product is insured by Pan Pacific.
is it ok to remain with pan pacific?
will pacific have right to terminate my mum medical card if mxm decided to pull out?
What right we have for protection?
Can Bank Negara advice on this ?
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post Feb 28 2017, 10:11 PM

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this is the lonpac upgrade form
to upgrade from previous pacific insurance

it didn't mention to declare any current medical condition
https://www.dropbox.com/s/85vpgqwaprq9vh6/a3.jpg?dl=0

can we ask lonpac to issue a guarantee letter?
or any advice
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post Mar 1 2017, 03:39 AM

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my friend just told me he just receive letter from pru that they are increasing medical insurance fees starting april...any news from aia, ge and others?

just heard rumours last year end bout this, looks like it turns out true
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post Mar 1 2017, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Mar 1 2017, 03:39 AM)
my friend just told me he just receive letter from pru that they are increasing medical insurance fees starting april...any news from aia, ge and others?

just heard rumours last year end bout this, looks like it turns out true
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AIA sent out last november. I received it... biggrin.gif

anyway, it's normal since to be fair, medical expenses has increased, claims have increased hence your premium has to increased. it was in the news (from social networking) that a few of them are doing it. allianz, aia, ge. i am sure there are others that was not shared or i missed out from the news.

QUOTE(lkoky @ Feb 27 2017, 01:55 PM)
looking for a life insurance.
42yo
non-smoker
office worker

looking for a payout of 500k ~ 1mio
dont want investment/saving linked.
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if you sit down and calculate the cost, investment-linked is still a good option (easier to change Sum Assured, though other non-IL products still do-able but with t&c)

don't rule it out, but ensure you have all the options available from your agent. (ie. remember to ask your agent quote you a term life insurance, usually they don't sell this kind of product, so request specifically)
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post Mar 1 2017, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Mar 1 2017, 08:37 AM)
AIA sent out last november. I received it... biggrin.gif

anyway, it's normal since to be fair, medical expenses has increased, claims have increased hence your premium has to increased. it was in the news (from social networking) that a few of them are doing it. allianz, aia, ge. i am sure there are others that was not shared or i missed out from the news.
if you sit down and calculate the cost, investment-linked is still a good option (easier to change Sum Assured, though other non-IL products still do-able but with t&c)

don't rule it out, but ensure you have all the options available from your agent. (ie. remember to ask your agent quote you a term life insurance, usually they don't sell this kind of product, so request specifically)
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thanks, will do
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post Mar 1 2017, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(soulmad @ Feb 28 2017, 10:05 PM)
thanks all for your input
MXM is the corporate agent for pacific since 1998

so I think they wont simply terminate the policy
even thought MXM decided to pull out.
Give that my mom already over 60 yr old
there no point for her to upgrade to other co
anyone can confirm this?
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QUOTE(soulmad @ Feb 28 2017, 10:07 PM)
asking to upgrade because it's company direction to sell only Lonpac new product
old product is insured by Pan Pacific.
is it ok to remain with pan pacific?
will pacific have right to terminate my mum medical card if mxm decided to pull out?
What right we have for protection?
Can Bank Negara advice on this ?
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QUOTE(soulmad @ Feb 28 2017, 10:11 PM)
this is the lonpac upgrade form
to upgrade from previous pacific insurance

it didn't mention to declare any current medical condition
https://www.dropbox.com/s/85vpgqwaprq9vh6/a3.jpg?dl=0
can we ask lonpac to issue a guarantee letter?
or any advice
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Best for you to call up mxm or lon pac to clarify and make sure you read the black and white before signing any documents.

QUOTE(SGSuser @ Mar 1 2017, 03:39 AM)
my friend just told me he just receive letter from pru that they are increasing medical insurance fees starting april...any news from aia, ge and others?

just heard rumours last year end bout this, looks like it turns out true
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AIA was just before end of last year 2016. If you're a policy holder you will receive an internal mail posted to your mailing address Regards to this matter

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