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post Feb 18 2017, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 18 2017, 06:13 PM)
G4560 over my i5-3570 good mou?  whistling.gif

Or better wait another new G series?
Many generations gap, the i5 has 4 dedicated cores while the G4560 has 2 and works like an i3 but it's really.

I don't think you should swap though, that i5 still has quite some processing capability.

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post Feb 18 2017, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(numlock @ Feb 18 2017, 02:58 PM)
just bought one ,
does win 7 32 bit will affecting ram performance as im installing 16gb of ram into my system
but seems it was 32 bit only 4gb allocated for the system
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Like the others said, your ram is clearly the issue here, you need a 64bit windows to use more than 4gb ram.

Also, your CPU has i3-4150 has 3.50ghz base frequency which should be more than enough for Photoshop.


QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ Feb 18 2017, 06:15 PM)
I do understand decent GPU might be sufficient for running photoshop..

so RAM and CPU more important than GPU to run photoshop?
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GPU will help if you need the features that make use of GPU power:

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Artboards
Camera Raw (see note)
3D
Scrubby Zoom
Birds Eye View
Flick Panning
Smooth Brush Resizing
Image Size – Preserve Details
Select Focus
Blur Gallery - Field Blur, Iris Blur, Tilt-Shift, Path Blur, Spin Blur (OpenCL accelerated)
Smart Sharpen (Noise Reduction – OpenCL accelerated)
Oil Paint (OpenCL accelerated)
Render – Flame, Picture Frame, and Tree
Perspective Warp
Select and Mask (OpenCL accelerated)

Source: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/photos...u-card-faq.html


Any decent GPU will do if you're not using those features, but then again, if you are running on a low-end on-board graphics, even windows ui will not run smoothly, so...

RAM will help with Photoshop's "cache", if your ram is not enough, Photoshop will resort to use "scratchdisk" instead, something like pagefile and relies on Harddisk speed, that will have a huge impact on performance unless your running off ssd, which should help a little bit. Like I said before, editing high resolution photos will fill up the ram pretty quickly, how much ram you need depends on your workloads, it's better to observe yourself.

CPU is also important but as long as you meet its system requirements you will be fine. Again, better CPU will speed up processing time, like when you apply filter/effects/etc, a good CPU will shorten the time it needs to process.

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post Feb 18 2017, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 18 2017, 09:11 PM)
Many generations gap, the i5 has 4 dedicated cores while the G4560 has 2 and works like an i3 but it's really.

I don't think you should swap though, that i5 still has quite some processing capability.
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Yes. I don't want to swap because it still win by marginal line only. If the future G series, it's a sure plus to change and I believed they can even compare with more than i5 4th gen at least as G4560 have no problem winning i5 2nd gen to i3 7th gen series in a close fight currently.

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post Feb 18 2017, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Kellicros @ Feb 18 2017, 09:32 PM)
Like the others said, your ram is clearly the issue here, you need a 64bit windows to use more than 4gb ram.

Also, your CPU has i3-4150 has 3.50ghz base frequency which should be more than enough for Photoshop.
GPU will help if you need the features that make use of GPU power:
Any decent GPU will do if you're not using those features, but then again, if you are running on a low-end on-board graphics, even windows ui will not run smoothly, so...

RAM will help with Photoshop's "cache", if your ram is not enough, Photoshop will resort to use "scratchdisk" instead, something like pagefile and relies on Harddisk speed, that will have a huge impact on performance unless your running off ssd, which should help a little bit. Like I said before, editing high resolution photos will fill up the ram pretty quickly, how much ram you need depends on your workloads, it's better to observe yourself.

CPU is also important but as long as you meet its system requirements you will be fine. Again, better CPU will speed up processing time, like when you apply filter/effects/etc, a good CPU will shorten the time it needs to process.
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its look like i need to clean install new window , am i ?
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post Feb 18 2017, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(numlock @ Feb 18 2017, 11:32 PM)
its look like i need to clean install new window , am i ?
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Yes, you need a clean install, and make sure it is 64 bit windows to make full use of your 16gb ram.
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QUOTE(numlock @ Feb 18 2017, 11:32 PM)
its look like i need to clean install new window , am i ?
Yes
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post Feb 19 2017, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(Kellicros @ Feb 18 2017, 09:32 PM)
Like the others said, your ram is clearly the issue here, you need a 64bit windows to use more than 4gb ram.

Also, your CPU has i3-4150 has 3.50ghz base frequency which should be more than enough for Photoshop.
GPU will help if you need the features that make use of GPU power:
Any decent GPU will do if you're not using those features, but then again, if you are running on a low-end on-board graphics, even windows ui will not run smoothly, so...

RAM will help with Photoshop's "cache", if your ram is not enough, Photoshop will resort to use "scratchdisk" instead, something like pagefile and relies on Harddisk speed, that will have a huge impact on performance unless your running off ssd, which should help a little bit. Like I said before, editing high resolution photos will fill up the ram pretty quickly, how much ram you need depends on your workloads, it's better to observe yourself.

CPU is also important but as long as you meet its system requirements you will be fine. Again, better CPU will speed up processing time, like when you apply filter/effects/etc, a good CPU will shorten the time it needs to process.
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I think in my case I'm working with quite loads of layer images - which component shd I focus? RAM or CPU ?

I guess GPU is out of equation already hmm.gif
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post Feb 19 2017, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ Feb 19 2017, 12:28 AM)
I think in my case I'm working with quite loads of layer images - which component shd I focus? RAM or CPU ?
RAM.

Photoshop will only use CPU for stuff like say applying filters and effects, using brushes and so on.

The rest of the time it's RAM and scratch disk.

RAM affects performance the most, not the speed but the size.

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post Feb 19 2017, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 19 2017, 02:14 AM)
RAM.

Photoshop will only use CPU for stuff like say applying filters and effects, using brushes and so on.

The rest of the time it's RAM and scratch disk.

RAM affects performance the most, not the speed but the size.
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Ah..okay noted. thanks!
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post Feb 19 2017, 08:07 AM

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87% and its only 3GB usage ?

Definitely main board RAM..

Aim for everything (RAM, CPU HDD, GPU) below 50% usage and you'll have a reliable pc..
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post Feb 19 2017, 08:55 AM

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32 bit!! you are wasted your 12GB or so of RAM not used, no wonder you say your photoshop not smooth
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post Feb 20 2017, 11:18 AM

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This will be an interested topic
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post Feb 20 2017, 01:51 PM

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which window should go for ?

window 7 or window 10 ?

as far i know , there will be certain edition of window 7 / 10 which work for maximum ram usage ?
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post Feb 20 2017, 05:32 PM

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personally I prefer windows 10 pro 64bit, on going free upgrade and full support directx 12


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post Feb 21 2017, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(mashimarow @ Feb 20 2017, 05:32 PM)
personally I prefer windows 10 pro 64bit, on going free upgrade and full support directx 12
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if im not mistaken that there was version that fully utilized ram installed right ?
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post Feb 22 2017, 09:32 AM

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https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/wi...mits_windows_10

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/wi...imits_windows_7

 

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