Hi guys. I am currently looking for a hatchback around 90k and am stuck between these two options.

Am kinda into 208 but have heard a lot of negative feedbacks from owners of previous generation. As nasim has just recently launched the 208 puretech, so far there is no any review from local owner, thus i'm not sure if it's gonna be as problematic as the previous gen used to be.

Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost seems to have received a lot of positive reviews. The only thing that i don't like about it is the interior. The dial pad in the car + the tiny screen are really a big turn off.

Gimmicks like smart entry and push start don't really matter to me. Reliability is the only issue that matters the most to me.

Thank you in advance for your opinions.

you had already answered your question

peugeot reliability is down the drain

208 got complaints? I know 308T got a lot only. My office got buy one and it's terrible.

my bro just bought a 2008 1.2 puretech.. he loves the car.

Yes Peugeot reliability has been questioned so many times.. 1.6 THP engines are very questionable..

but the new engines , the 1.2 puretech are still new.. but from what info that is available on the web, its an awesome engine with very good fuel efficiency..

I myself have a Peugeot, but its a diesel, very reliable for the past 3 years of ownership

This post has been edited by edthrax: Feb 14 2017, 11:31 PM

Mazda 2?

One of the reviews of the pre-facelifted 208 said that the pedals are off center. That would put me off straight away.

The obvious choice here is the Fiesta.

If you are open to other options, the Mazda 2 has got good reviews. The Jazz is the safest option.

Let me do a quick breakdown of the B segment hatchbacks

Ford Fiesta Ecoboost:
This is a very good driver's car, great handling, good performance and good fuel economy. Yes I agree the interior is ugly, so if you can wait, wait for the next gen Fiesta, should be coming out late this year
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars...ecs-and-gallery
Do note though, Sime Darby motors servicing has quite a bad reputation.

Peugeot 208:
Very good performance on paper, interior is quite ok. BUT Peugeot is known to have serious reliability issues plus Peugeot Malaysia service center is also known to be slow. Personally i'd say stay away from Peugeot cars.

Mazda 2:
I have a M2 sedan, really great handling, performance is above average and the interior is very nice and simple, plus fuel economy is top of its class due to its 14:1 compression ratio, again top of its class. Plus the exterior is sexy. Bad thing about the M2, its one of the more expensive B-segments, suspension and steering is known to have issues though you can warranty and Mazda service center are quite good, I've had mine for 5 months now no issues yet. Its a fun little car but rear seat is the most cramp in its class, more of a driver's car.

Honda Jazz:
Most practical of the B-Segments, magic seats have alot of customizability, boot space is the best in B-segment hatchbacks, rear seat is super spacious, also alot of cubby holes and cup holders. You can fit a washing machine with the seats folded down. Reliability is pretty good and since Honda has many customers, spare parts are easy to source. On the negative side, its the most boring to drive, the CVT is not responsive, suspension is floaty, performance is so-so, the Jazz is the least fun to drive

VW Polo:
Not much experience with the Polo 1.6. On the plus side, its the cheapest to own at 77k before rebates. The 1.6 MPI uses conventional automatic unlike the dreaded unreliable DSG in the previous 1.2 TSI. Also its the cheapest continental car you can get, fit and finish is also good.

This post has been edited by Eilrach: Feb 15 2017, 12:28 AM

If u drive in the city alot with traffic jam: Get the 208

If u drive alot on the highway and likes tackling corners: Get the Fiesta

The 208 seems to be a more well balanced car interms of performance, comfort and features offered, it also claims to get more than 1000km per full tank but I really doubt that la

This post has been edited by Boy96: Feb 15 2017, 01:55 AM

Do you have any relatives/friends driving 208? I would really love to know more about their feedbacks.

Heard that 208 has quite serious problems with its build quality. Am not sure if it's true. Saw brand new 408 turbo @ RM87k but that's probably gonna bring a whole lot of problems.

I came across some reviews from foreign websites claiming that this engine is very good, but I would love to get some feedbacks from local owners. It's been barely 1 month since Nasim introduced this model so... so far i haven't found even 1 lol.

How do you think about the build quality of your peugeots?

It was my first choice until I realized that the monthly installment will start killing me after 2 years. To me, RM95k+ for a B-seg hatchback is not really worth the money. Money matters more lol.

Am going to view 208 in the showroom on tomorrow. Fiesta's center console is really a big problem to me. The only reason why I'm considering the current gen is the promo.

Mazda 2 is way over my budget. Wanted to go for polo but there's already 3 vw at home thus my parents are against polo.

I am planning on getting a new car either by the end of this month or during raya/merdeka. If fiesta is going to be launched before that then it's gonna be good. Am also waiting for kia to introduce new Rio 1.0 t-gdi.

May I know why 208 if I drive in city > on highway?

Yeah I am quite into 208's interior + LED headlamp and DRL.

If it's proven to be reliable then I'll most probably go for it.

The 208 uses a conventional 6 speed torque converter automatic, which u can smoothly creep during traffic jam, unlike the dry dual clutch transmission on the Fiesta which needs to be treated like a manual during traffic jam, else the car will judder and it's really uncomfortable if that happens in the jam. Thats why the upcoming new Fiesta has dropped the DCT in favor of the conventional 6 speed auto as well

The 208 has a higher torque figure at 205nm compared to fiesta 170nm, so zipping around town should be quite good , but only 110ps compared to 125ps on the fiesta, thats why I say for town drive the 208 is better..

And the New Fiesta will probably be launched here somewhere in 2018..

For the Kia Rio, Naza said they wont be bringing in the 1.0T, instead we still get the same current 1.4NA with 4 speed auto.

This post has been edited by Boy96: Feb 15 2017, 04:39 AM

I google a bit about Rio last time. It seem like even in Europe, 1.0TGDI only comes with manual. If you want auto, unfortunately only can choose 1.4/1.6L engine.

one thing bout peugeot cars, the interior are built with lots of soft touch materials, so feels quite premium..

like my car uses nappa leather, has massage seat functions.. really feels comfortable when driving it.. only thing is killing me is the 19 inch rims tyre.. mahal man..

when i test drove my bros 2008 puretech, engine is quite smooth.. acceleration are good , no turbo lag .. moon roof with mood lights looks good.. steering is abit small.. driving was good..

but cant say for new engines reliability since still new. but i heard that the 408 e-thp launched last year, its engine is quite reliable now.. they've solved most of the old 1.6thp prince problems

This post has been edited by edthrax: Feb 15 2017, 07:45 AM

Both are overpriced... You can get a C segment or HRV with that price

Just get jazz

It's around RM20k cheaper after discount

Perhaps TS is not keen on Japanese... yes reliable but boring as hell to drive. Perhaps TS has more taste than thought and he has the financial capability to handle the idiosyncrasies of owning an European brand...

He probably knows how it is to drive a car with 'feel'. Something people who buy cars to use as appliances won't understand.

But since TS mentioned that he wants 'reliability'...

This post has been edited by lowpro: Feb 15 2017, 02:18 PM

Prince engine
http://www.etuners.gr/peugeot-citroen-thp-...-servicing-101/

The new 208 is Puretech new engine , they build ownself ?

Wow, that's a good article you posted! Very helpful to owners of the 308/408.

I'm currently driving 2013 208. My opinion would be : STAY AWAY.

Reason being:
1. SC is not helpful, slow in claiming part
2. Aircond is not cold and break down easily (A big turn off especially the Weather in Malaysia is hot)- Please check 208 facebook group if you do not believe me.
3. servicing price is ridiculous. cheapest from RM700 to RM2k major service.

Lion have to jaga , hope they can become healthy lion for long

I have driven the 208... the ride is reasonably comfortable, but it is also a pure joy to drive. I'd place it above the 1 series, and all the other modern cars I have driven (the first gen Ford Ka might have been even better, but that was a go kart). It feels like a grown up car. Much like the Polo, just that the Polo is incredibly dull to drive. Oh yeah and I like that 1.2, driven it in other PSA cars.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Feb 15 2017, 04:01 PM