Sunday, so it's TRX suspension class training. Here it goes about what i did after the class:
Romanian deadlift 47kg 3x8
Calf raise 47kg 3x10
Shrug 45kg 3x10 more like grip strength workout since the dumbbells keep rubbing on my clothes..
Farmer's carry 45kg 2sets dont know how im supposed to count the work done, but my left hand grip was letting go towards the end of 2nd set. Couldnt go for 3rd set
Squat Warm up: 57kg 1x8 87kg 5x5 (missed 5th rep at 3rd set, 4th & 5th at 5th set)
Somehow it feels like my quads have not fully healed from dont know since when. It feels sore even when i lift my legs up. But at least i completed 3 sets of 5 reps, gonna repeat this.
Bench Warm up: 57kg 1x8 67kg 3x5
So this is one of the better days where my shoulders are being helpful rather than a-holes. Managed to complete this through grindings, therefore i would have to hold from increasing the weight load. Assistance work experiment looks to be successful.
My back is still rounded, pls help to check my form and advise where should i take note to perform better. Will repeat this load.
This is after my working set, it's just for the recording purpose, I consciously raised my chest this time, after I see my bad form during the working set.
Assistance:
Inclined bench 47kg 3x8
Bench (shoulder width grip, for triceps) 42kg 3x8
I'm gonna start adopting progressive overloading for assistance workout in order to help my main lifts even more, but i will take it at slower pace since it would be insane to think that I could go heavy for such volume that i would have.
You didn't set up tight enough. You can see when you initiate the movement, you jerked the bar a bit. That's a bad habit. You lose efficiency. So use the bar to pull yourself into position and take the slack out of the bar before you initiate the movement.
Ah ok, only remembered about the chest when i took this video. Thanks for that, didnt realize i jerked it honestly, forgot about pulling the slack out.
But how about my back bro? I think it looks ok all the way up to immediately before the bar hits the ground when i rounded it again? Rounded back has been haunting me for lifetime, i only have myself to blame for that....
To be honest it doesn't look all that bad. Lower back seems straight enough. Upper back, there's a bit of rounding but nothing too serious. If anything I'll say it's probably due to your lats.
Yeah my problem with rounded back is always with upper back rather than lower, but then that still gives me unnecessary strain on the lower back..
Lats? How's that? Pls explain further bro, cs i thought it's because of me letting myself loose especially on the chest since it was ok on the way up, sorry to bother u
Rounded upper back isn't something I would worry about, it only becomes an issue if you hyperextend your back at the top to overcompensate it. Most people would cue using the chest up cue like you do here, which is not bad. But, you run the risk of being hyperextended rather than being straight at the top. That was exactly how I injured my lower back, on 2 separate occasions.
So, lats. How I cue myself is I imagine myself holding a very heavy file between my armpit and my arms. Not sure how else to explain it. You just gotta flex it and remain straight as an arrow. Instead of chest up, try, back up. As in your entire back goes up towards the back of the room, while simultaneously pushing the floor away from you using your legs and squeeze your glutes as hard as you can.
Points noted bro, thanks. Maybe I just got too worried about tension at lower back, but that said, deadlift is supposed to work that too . I will try out your pointers next time, thanks again.
I think I have fcked up my right groin, which is the "Doms" i have been feeling since like a week ago. But that didnt affect my squats, so i have no idea how i get that injury. Might hold to this weight for now while my groin recovers, but let's see how it feels Saturday.
OHP Warm up: 27kg 1x10 Working: 44.5kg 3x5 (missed 2nd set last 2 reps; last set last rep)
So i missed a total of 3 reps out of target 15 reps. Think it's time to call it quit at this weight and take out 2.5kg. Would go for either 3x8 or 5x5 at 42kg next.
Pendlay row Warm up: 47kg 1x8 Working: 64.5kg 3x5
Think i did it right, there was connection at my upper back instead of lower. Due to time constraint couldnt record it, but i will go for the same weight next time and record it. If i really do it right then it's time to add some weight
Assistance: So suddenly i had the idea, wonder what took me so long to realize it, that I should try to work every part of muscles every session. Basically I'm just switching the assistance workout from day A to B and vice versa. Theoretically this would enable me to hit the assistance heavier since i wouldnt be working the same muscles on the same day. Let's see how it goes.
Romanian deadlift Working: 57kg 3x8
Bench (close grip to target triceps) Working: 42kg 3x8
Incline bench Working: 47kg 3x8 (missed 2 reps of 2nd set) Yeap, not the brightest idea to go incline on the same day that i work on OHP, especially for someone with underdeveloped shoulders. Last few reps of every set really had me to grind them out.
Hey man, try to calculate your rowing volume versus your bench press volume. If possible try to maintain a 1:1 ratio to make sure you don't develop a rounded forward shoulder imbalance. I personally do 2:1 of row:bench. A lot of gym bros tend to just bench and bench and incline bench and dumbbell bench and forget about rowing causing them to have rounded forward shoulders.
Ok, would keep that in mind brah. Rowing is my favorite exercise so i sure wouldnt neglect it, who wouldnt love a wide back
The volume of bench in my last 2 sessions surge because I switched the turn of assistance workouts and therefore repeating them. It's a one off anomaly rather than the norm. But to keep the ratio 1:1 it looks like i would have to up my volume of rowing instead of going for variations since they all hit the same muscle groups; it's around 1:1.5 now it seems.
Been feeling less as stable during bench as previously, so this is timely reminder, thanks brah
Squat Warm up: 57kg 1x8 89.5kg 5x5 (missed 4th & 5th rep at 3rd set, 5th at 4th set)
I just couldnt resist the temptation to add weight to my lower body workouts. Should have stopped after 3rd set as I felt my posture was already compromised. Rested for 5 mins before i went for set 4 & 5. Happy that I managed to get 5 at the last set. Repeat is the only option
Bench Warm up: 47kg 1x10 67kg 3x5
Felt good for completing this again, but I just dont have the courage to add further weight yet. Not really concerned about the roll of shame if it really comes to that but the thought that bench has been number one killer in the gym have always haunted me. I will attempt for 4th set and even 5th if i have the time next time. Will have to hold until the weight increases in other push workouts.
Deadlift Warm up: 57kg 1x8 107kg 2x5
1st 3 reps of 1st set was quite smooth, after that i have to catch a breather of about 30 secs after every rep. It took me almost 4 mins to complete 2nd set. Im not feeling bad about that though, this weight is already a PR, so i will just work my way to make it feels easy then add weight.
Assistance: Kroc row(?) 25kg/side 3x8 Sorry Sir Kroc, it must feel like being insulted to call a row of that petty weight an exercise named after u, but we all start somewhere
Incline bench 47kg 3x8 Yea I realized I must been doing this exercise for 3 sessions in a row, but it's due to a tweak in my assistance workouts routine. Incline bench would be aligned with bench going forward
Platform t-bar row (i think i'll just call it that) 45kg 3x8 (weight without load not known, i estimate it to be 10kg)
It should have been TRX Sunday, but as I have been painting my small house which still drained me physically, have been planning to skip it. Seriously dont think it fit into what i'm doing at the moment, might have to evaluate if i wanna be regular at the class. And then gf asked me to go for a morning jog, and therefore we go, more like a walk in the park, literally.
Didnt bother to track the total distance but I estimate it to be around 4/5km, but my quads are still sore from the interval sprints.
After that, I did a total of 100reps (30-20-20-20-10) mountain climber, yes, for no apparent reason, just felt like doing it.
Gf might wanna it a routine, which I'm cool with. It's good to go back to nature and exercise, with some eye candies along the way
This post has been edited by Lionel90: Mar 13 2017, 09:39 AM
It was my right groin, then it's my left thigh. While it has not affected my performance, have planned to go 3x5 only as i arrived late at the gym. Good for me though, almost failed at the very first rep. While I had to grind it out almost every rep, wouldnt say that it's too tough. 5x5 next and i inch ever closer to 1.5x body weight squat.
OHP Warm up: 27kg 1x10 Working: 42kg 5x5
So it was a good shoulder day, I cut my rest to 2 mins before set 1-3, then 2 and a half before set 4 & 5, and still managed to complete 5x5. This is the best I have done for OHP 5x5, my previous best for 5x5 is 37kg i think. I would go at this weight load again.
Was running out of time, so didnt managed to record again. But really didnt feel soreness at lower back at all, but probably have raised my torso too much for a rep or two. Will have to record myself doing it again before deciding if im good to add weight.
Assistance: Bench (close grip to target triceps) Working: 44kg 3x8
Romanian deadlift Working: 57kg 3x8
Chin-up Working: Bodyweight 3x6 (missed final rep)
Really hate running late to the gym, felt like i was rushing through everything for the sake of it. Didnt even have sufficient time for me to catch my breathe. Not a good day, but happy for managing to complete the OHP target
Is your squat warmup adequate man? Seems like a bit too rushed. My 5x5 for squats is about 110kg, so my warmup would be something like 20kgx10-20, 60kgx8-10, 80kgx5-8 and 100kgx3-5, only after that will I do my working set. Don't rush your squat warmup, it's generally a bad idea to squat cold. If it were me and I'm rushing for time, I'd rather skip everything else and do my squat properly.
QUOTE(bafukie @ Mar 15 2017, 09:12 AM)
I agree. When u lack time, prioritize. Accessories can wait. I rather rush through accessories rather than the main lifts. Those r bread n butter of any training day
Thank you both for the pointers. But I didnt cut the warmup short due to the rush, rather I have always been keeping my warming up volume low. I tried to put more volume in before, but I felt like I was already at the middle/end of my working set at the very first rep. Didnt realize it could be a problem, now u both mention I would put in more volume for squat especially as I cant seem to stop getting injuries in my legs.
By the way, warming up, do u rest in between the different weight load? I definitely would have to take rest like in between working sets after the warm up.
Yup, you rest as much as you need. Take your time. My usual squat session for volume (5x5 or 6x4) easily takes up to 45 mins, with almost 25 mins of it just warming up. My squat session for intensity (3x3 or 6x1-2) takes up to an hour with 35 mins of warming up. Most of that time I spend is usually just resting and catching my breath so others who want to share the rack with me usually squat during my rest time. Min rest time for me is 2 mins.
Now I know why the f I felt so worked out after my warm up when i increased the volume. I worked all sets of different weight back to back and only rest just before i started my working sets.
But with that said, Im not sure if I have sufficient time to work up to my working set like u would do. I usually have about an hour and a half before the gym closes (weekday session). Maybe I will just put in 3 sets for warming up and add 10kg up to my working weight load, and maybe go 3x5 if the time really doesnt allow. I'll see where i can tweak it, but hopefully I wouldnt need that again, I just need to be at the gym slightly earlier.
I don't really use the timer for resting. I prefer autoregulation ie when my heart rate is almost back to normal and i dont breath heavily before i start my next set. I recommend doing explosive movement for warm ups. I find it useful to prime both the brain n body for working sets. Jump squats, speed deadlift, bp, ohp at ligher weights.
Bro, even for working set? I normally rest longer than that I think, probably around 1 and a half min to get my pulse and breathe to slow down, but I would just sit there for another min and half idly thinking about my next set.
Jump squats with weight, hardcore, balancing would be the challenge haha. Maybe i'll just stick to something "normal" first Good advice nevertheless, a good way to shock and wake the muscles.
QUOTE(Npad @ Mar 15 2017, 11:03 AM)
Of course, I don't expect you to do what I do, we have different goals man. Haha. I'm just saying get more warmup sets in. Get your joints loose and warm. Get your muscles warm. Only then start your working set. Make it a goal to reduce your rest time to increase your conditioning. My conditioning is shit right now because of what I do. But then again, my goal is to lift the most I can for 1 rep, not lift the most rep for the least amount of rest, so work towards your own goals.
Another way to save time is to giant set or superset your accessories. For example, you can bench 1 set, then rest 30 seconds, then chin up one set, rest 2 mins, then repeat. You can do the same for OHP and RDL. Combine movements that are opposite/antagonistic from each other. This will improve your conditioning at the same time.
Good tips again bro, superset is indeed a way that I'm looking at to cut my time at the gym, but I'm looking to do it to my assistance workouts because I'm not confident that my body can handle that for the mainlifts, even if they are for different muscles.
Yup, autoregulate for main lifts. If i can't perform the required reps, then on the next set rest longer in between. It really depends on yr conditioning and goals. I dont like to rest lol hence i always plan my workout in such a way the machines I'm using is side by side. Squats, then rdl. Deadlift then ohp. Bench then rows. Upper n lower supersets or agonist antagonist supersets for me.
Wow okay, didnt know such practice is do-able for strength training, i would think only the curl bros do that lol .
I also dislike resting for too long, but dont think my body can cope with superset during main lifts. Would definitely try to superset my assistance workout the next time I'm in a rush rather than compromising my main lifts, though hopefully I wouldnt need that.
Extra volume during warm up has definitely added fatigue to my quads. But I could feel a little bit more power to fire in them. Let's not fix what is not broken, this volume still look attainable, maybe i'll just rest a little bit more after warm up. 92kg next.
Bench Warm up: 47kg 1x8, 58kg 1x8 67kg 3x5
Looks like it's real, that i could really kill this weight load. But I'm really hesitate to add further weight till im sure i wouldnt get crushed by the bar.
Deadlift Warm up: 67kg 1x8 107kg 2x5
Not good. I rounded my whole back, was trying out the pointer about deadlift that i came across the other day and i forgot everything else. Bad form = repeat, enough said. I took a video and hell, i almost made a trip to snap city if i didnt have a belt wrapped around my waist. Next week i will have 2 sessions of dl, if i still couldnt get the form right imma gonna drop the weight. Not worth it to put my back at risk in the pursuit of heavier load.
Was running out of gas so i did 3x6 instead of 3x8 for the last 2 workout. Definitely has not gotten into the tempo of superset-ing, was grasping for air through out
This post has been edited by Lionel90: Mar 17 2017, 11:18 PM
Actually i went for 4th set but could only completed 2 reps. Felt very beat up in my quads and they're screaming for me to stop. Heck, even for the 3 sets that i completed, i might have compensated with my lower back. Gotta repeat this.
From the videos that i took, i rounded my back the whole time. Not sure if it's because i did this after the squat but my legs were definitely shaky. Moved this ahead of OHP so i could go for RDL after my mainlifts, but really look ill advised now. I will go at this weight load again and im sure i could do this, i just need to do it with the correct form.
OHP Warm up: 27kg 1x8, 32kg 1x6 Working: 42kg 5x5
It was easy, certainly easier than expected, didnt feel like i exerted myself anyhow. It's time to tackle 44.5kg again. I've been there before, i just plateau-ed, so let's see if i have gotten any stronger
Assistance:
Romanian deadlift Working: 62kg 3x8 Funny how i could do RDL right but cant seem to get my DL form correct. Maybe the weight itself scares me but RDL would definitely help me to get here.
Bench (close grip to target triceps) Working: 47kg 3x8
Chin-up Working: Bodyweight 3x8 Had to pause after 5th rep of last set, but surprised that I could finish reps of 8, since i have barely realized that i only could get 3x6 the last time.
I have completed it, but I cheated here and there to get it through, heck I even somehow pulled my right delt. Gotta have to repeat this.
Bench Warm up: 47kg 1x8, 57kg 1x6 67kg 3x5
Nth to comment about, completed this again but this time definitely felt tougher than before, probably bcs I pulled my delt during squat. And I must have really worked my quads, almost cramped again when I was benching.
Deadlift Warm up: 67kg 1x8 107kg 1x8
I finally managed to record myself performing DL, and damn I rounded my lower back through out. I did one rep, stopped to review my form but I still couldnt get it right through to the end. I would deload 10kg from this and get my lower back in the place it should be. Almost one year on and I still occasionally "forget" how to DL, it's really frustrating
Assistance:
Platform t-bar row superset-ed with Incline bench 40kg 3x8 / 49kg 3x8 Previously I guesstimate the empty bar for the row weighs about 10kg, but today I tried to pull it and it feels like 5kg, or even less, so imma gonna treat it as 5kg
8 reps deadlift? Damn man, that's a lot. Touch and go or complete reset?
I hate high rep deadlift. I never go over 5 unless it's touch and go. On touch and go deadlift, I can go complete ham and go for a 20 rep RP. If it's the normal complete reset, if I can do a weight for 8 reps, it's too light. If it's challenging enough to stimulate any growth, I won't be able to exceed 5 without any form breakdown. That might have been the case here. 2 sets of 5 reps with good form and heavy weight is better than 1 set of 8 with good form but light weight.
Also, I find it a waste of energy to warm up with too many reps on deadlift. It's different with the squat. I also don't make huge weight jumps on it as to feel my groove. If for example, I'm working up to a 3x5 at 140kg, I'll warmup like this: 70kg x 1 x 5 90kg x 1 x 3 110kg x 1 x 3 130kg x 1 x 2 140kg x 3 x 5
It was a complete reset, as I was recording myself rep by rep, so it's not really 8reps like a normal set of 8. I usually go for 2x5 but after the 5th rep my form didnt get any better so I just thought fck that, lets try for a rep more to get the form right, but it didnt improve at all hence 8 instead of 5. Didnt bother to go 2nd set as my back was beat up by then.
Points taken bro, but I dont really have sufficient time for that much volume during warm up, and my back would be dead due to my poor form, so im gonna fix that first.
But going straight from 67 - 107 is a bad choice imo. The risk of pulling a muscle or something worse is higher. At least 67/87/97/107 is a better choice of warm up sets. Not a lot of volume if u dl 1-3 reps per set.
I realize that it's quite a big jump, will try to squeeze in at least another weight load to bridge the gap then. Feels that sometimes I dont really get acclimatized to my working set weight, too.
Didnt bother to attempt further set as my quads were almost dead when i was done with 3rd set. But the form felt better, didnt have to anyhow cheat. To be repeated
Man I hate OHP, one session u feel Herculean, the other u feel like a weak d!ck. It seems i have gotten weaker instead. I'm giving myself another 3 sessions of OHP, i'll add weight if i could complete all 3x5; otherwise I deload back to 42kg 5x5 till it becomes a piece of cake.
Here's the video of the last set, I still rounded my lower back despite my best attempt to rectify it. Could anyone pls help to point out where's the (possible) problem pls? I also tried 1 rep of DL at the end, and it's proven that my lower back is rounded whenever I'm in this position. I really need help.
My positioning in case the video is not clear enough: Narrow stance, almost deadlift stance Bar over mid foot, shin never in contact Arms just outside my knees (tried arms in front of knees, didnt solve it) Tried my best to lock hip in position
Assistance:
Romanian deadlift Working: 64.5kg 3x8 (missed 8th rep of 2nd set due to grip failure)
Bench (close grip to target triceps) Working: 47kg 3x8