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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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polarzbearz
post Feb 19 2017, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(idyllrain @ Feb 16 2017, 09:46 AM)
Hmm, the original snapshot code was from Polarzbearz. Anyhow, here are the fixes. Since you probably already have data in your files, you should fix this yourself with the following instructions (it's easy, so don't worry).

Fixing Instructions: Part A
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That should fix the error that you saw. Now if you click on the "Capture Snapshot Only" button again you might see another error. This should be another easy fix (see Part B)

Fixing Instructions: Part B
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I've only tested on Excel 2011, you can try the same fixes on Excel 2016. Let me know if you encounter issues.

Updated files if you want to start fresh (I recommend you apply the fixes above rather than having to reenter all your data again):
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post Mar 20 2017, 05:36 PM

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Just wondering - anyone here have FSM investment accounts across countries? i.e. One in Malaysia and one in Hong Kong.

I'm tempted to apply HK FSM since it seems to offer wider ranges of portfolios and doesn't seem to have ridiculous restrictions for foreigners.
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post May 5 2018, 11:21 PM

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Hello all! Been MIA for a while... laugh.gif Been inactive in managing my funds too, just let the RSP flow in. Not a good habit rclxub.gif
Refreshed my own spreadsheet after 1 year and suddenly the IRR jumped, making me doubt the spreadsheet for a while sweat.gif

Just wondering anyone's investing in FSM HK? I'm trying to update my spreadsheet for auto-fetching from FSM HK's price list as well, but their interface is too modernized that I can't get the direct XML link.

(Example for FSM MY's): https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...tpl?id=MYOSKAIF

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https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundinfo/dailyPricesHistory.tpl?id={REPLACE FUND CODE HERE}


But FSM HK's are using JavaScript which renders the XML reader useless rclxub.gif
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post May 6 2018, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 5 2018, 11:34 PM)
nice seeing you still posting here...I think you will need the help of idyllrain again...
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laugh.gif Just revived from death laugh.gif

Was working on individual-fund ROI/IRR but abandoned it half way due to busy work life rclxub.gif
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Maybe can slowly pick it back up again. Luckily the excel still works on Microsoft Excel 2016 Windows 64-bit sweat.gif sweat.gif, saw quite some issues few posts back (in 2017) with Mac
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post May 7 2018, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(idyllrain @ May 7 2018, 02:46 AM)
polarzbearz On the topic of obtaining fund prices from FSM SG/HK: The new site sends a POST request to a REST API that returns a JSON object; however, the server expects a CSRF token to be passed along with it.

What you need to do is:

  1. Send GET request to daily-price-history-modal.html
  2. Grab both cookies
  3. Extract XSRF-Token value
  4. Send POST request to https://secure.fundsupermart.com.hk/fsm/res...ber={FUND_CODE} with the 2 cookies and the X-XSRF-TOKEN header set to XSRF-Token's value.
  5. Parse the JSON with the help of some open source VBA JSON parser...
On the topic of obtaining fund prices from Public Mutual online directly, err, this one requires sending form data to a POST endpoint; which then returns a mess of code that one will have to dig through.
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Thanks for the pointers! Will dig into it deeper nod.gif

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post May 7 2018, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(idyllrain @ May 7 2018, 10:40 AM)
polarzbearz If you want to work on it together, I can help out. We probably should integrate FSM SG/HK into the spreadsheet anyway since it's a matter of time before FSM MY upgrades to the new platform.
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I agree. Putting the fetching aside (something I'm not good at), there's a few things to be considered as well as I was debating with myself to use single spreadsheet vs multiple spreadsheet by country. But either way I think its feasible to make it workable for MY / HK /SG since the funds code itself are prefixed with country codes

One of the biggest headache of merging portfolios into one spreadsheet is the problem with trade currency. For now I'm considering to make it workable across countries (one single version of spreadsheet), but maintains different file per country.

I'm keen to work together, since I'll most likely need help from you with the auto fetching with JSON (especially since even the original version's fetching code was also contributed by you thumbup.gif). Currently I'm continuing my half-complete work for auto update of individual fund performances, not sure when it'll be completed since I'm working on it during free time on weekend / public holidays.
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post May 11 2018, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ May 6 2018, 11:11 AM)
laugh.gif Just revived from death laugh.gif

Was working on individual-fund ROI/IRR but abandoned it half way due to busy work life rclxub.gif
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Maybe can slowly pick it back up again. Luckily the excel still works on Microsoft Excel 2016 Windows 64-bit sweat.gif sweat.gif, saw quite some issues few posts back (in 2017) with Mac
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Didn't manage to spend much time, too much election/politics past few days laugh.gif

Managed to complete my 2015 leftover chart; then completely scrap and rebuild it by borrowing some idea from idyllrain laugh.gif

Here's the progress so far,
Attached File  My_Portfolio_IRR_calculator_DEV___Latest___Scramble.pdf ( 549.6k ) Number of downloads: 72


Next is to start working on fetching price from new FSM interface (like FSM HK); and maybe also cross-country capability in one file (one sheet per country) rclxub.gif
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post May 12 2018, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ May 12 2018, 06:20 PM)
Did u have FSM HK account?
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Yup I do nod.gif
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post May 13 2018, 05:12 PM

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Well the reason was mainly because I don't really actively monitor my portfolio but wanted to get my feet in for a start, hence starting UT few years ago. Plus the amount I'm investing is ridiculously small right now, not much free cash flow at hand yet.

Might look into those in the future though, once I start doing it more seriously laugh.gif
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post May 13 2018, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ May 13 2018, 07:32 PM)
How u deposit to HK FSM ?
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I was in HK for assignments so I had HK mobile, HKID + Visa,and HK bank.
So its either transfer in via PPS or RSP directly debit from bank account. Although the first is no longer working since my HK phone number was returned to company and I can't change PPS to overseas number sweat.gif
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post May 13 2018, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 13 2018, 06:14 PM)
tomorrow 1st day of bursa under new gov!!! after 3 days of sleep
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ May 13 2018, 06:30 PM)
big sale? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 13 2018, 07:49 PM)
I guess so initially... few days maybe
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Buy buy buy during the initial shock? laugh.gif
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post May 14 2018, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 14 2018, 07:26 PM)
Congratulations, Malaysians! All Malaysia Equity Funds at 0% Sales Charge till 28 May 2018

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...les-Charge-9759
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Wah lucky. Almost pulled the trigger before the announcement

Kenanga Growth Fund seems to have dropped heavily recently, not sure if good timing now to jump on board while low hmm.gif

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post May 14 2018, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 14 2018, 08:38 PM)
not sure also... previous drop till valley but up no oomph then form another valley.
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QUOTE(GTA5 @ May 14 2018, 09:02 PM)
With this current promo, I bought into KGF.

I think it has potential with the current political and economic scene.
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hmm.gif I'm considering either Kenaga Growth Fund or Eastspring Investments Equity Income Fund to complement my current portfolio

But not sure if Malaysia's equity is really the way to go, since China/Greater China could use some boosting too.. my current portfolio are:

FSM Malaysia only
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FSM Malaysia + FSM Hong Kong
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post May 14 2018, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ May 14 2018, 10:10 PM)
What makes u diversify into FSM hk? Access to more funds?
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More funds + refuse to close my overseas HKD bank account but don't want the $ to sit there doing nothing laugh.gif, plus no plan to bring it back to Malaysia

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post May 15 2018, 06:21 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 14 2018, 11:41 PM)
Never buy an ILP unless you kena conned/trick. Separate them. Always DIY investment where possible.
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Agree and disagree.

Agree that never use ILP as a vehicle for investment. Makes almost zero sense to 'invest' via ILP due to high cost and charges, plus DIY is better route to go given the flexibility and choices

Disagree on "never buy ILP". Certain circumstances, ILP insurance will still out benefit the traditional in terms of cost / coverage. But usually to be safe (and related to the point 1 above), my ILP are usually as Conservative as it can get - the focus is coverage, not investment returns. I have FSM for that laugh.gif
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post May 15 2018, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ May 15 2018, 04:51 PM)
I have been using FSM for about 2-3 years now. Is there any page on the site to view what I have bought/sold in a summary form with the P&L? something like CIMB@iTrade as below?

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I found https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/viewH...o_Absolute.svdo but what I meant is to have a breakdown of the P&L for each holding so far. The % there is just the annualized P&L for the investment performance instead of based on the time I bought in or sold. (and also only for current holding)
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I believe FSM website details are quite limited, and it is gonna get worse once they upgrade to the new simplified interface like FSM HK's

The closest way I can think of is to do it manually in excel and add some formula to record / capture the IRR / ROI during sales of fund.

So far I'm only tracking down to irr / roi at fund level and stop there. I didn't go further from this to track irr / roi at transaction level.
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post May 15 2018, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ May 15 2018, 08:23 PM)
Thanks, your signature xls calculator is great too! Mind providing me with the macro password so that I can see what's going on with the underlying conversion in case I wanted to create something new on the sheet? Do let me know if it's proprietary, I'm fine without the password.
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The IRR Portfolio spreadsheet didn't have password I believe
Cause the idea initially was to release that stable version and anyone else that want to contribute, or adapt or change can do so

hmm.gif maybe I remember wrongly

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post May 16 2018, 02:00 PM

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After warming up for quite some time with small investment, decided to now do it properly but by withdrawing the excess EPF funds in Account 1. Since we're restricted to one withdrawal per fund house every 3 months - anyone has any idea/recommendation on how you guys approach this? Since it might be hard to apply DCA method.

Also not sure if I should maintain the ratio of my current portfolio, which seems to be doing fine so far hmm.gif

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post May 16 2018, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ May 16 2018, 02:20 PM)
You can try putting it into a conservative fund first, like a local large caps fund, or a money market fund. (Bond funds seem like going down in the near term.) Then switch into the target fund on selected days when its benchmark index is in the red... divide the switches into 3 separate months unless you know for certain that the fund and its benchmark index is on the uptrend for the next 3 months.

- Don't hold the conservative fund more than 3 months. It would be better to draw less than the permitted amount from Account 1 and withdraw again in 3 months time.

- The target fund should be a foreign fund and an aggressive growth fund. Since the aim of withdrawing out of EPF is to have this batch of money to perform better than EPF. Take the risk.
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Wait - that means even with the 3-months withdrawal restriction per fund house, we are not restricted from switchingfunds via FSM once invested?

I agree on aggressive portfolio - otherwise it defeats the purpose of withdrawing from EPF. Any specific reasons for foreign growth fund instead of say, mixed/diversified portfolio with both overseas + local?

hmm.gif I'm curious how EPF allocates their fund

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post May 27 2018, 11:58 PM

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Here's the latest sneak peek on the next version of the Excel, with cross-country funds enabled (FSM MY, FSM HK, FSM SG) with auto-updater; together with cross-currency consolidation for reporting/snapshots

Thanks to idyllrain too for the help along the way contributing the JSON price fetcher + some inspirations laugh.gif

Still cleaning up some parts + figuring out how to best migrate old data from current stable version (to minimize another round of data entry & also utilize previous-snapshots without having to start afresh for reporting purposes) rclxub.gif
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