Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

1553 Pages « < 493 494 495 496 497 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

views
     
jusTinMM
post Nov 11 2017, 10:05 PM

On my way
****
Junior Member
523 posts

Joined: Aug 2007


QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 11 2017, 06:16 PM)
hmm.gif eventhough it was the highest risk rated portfolio that you bought, but bcos of the below post......I was wondering, ........what makes the expected returns of managed port suits your objectives?
*
Im still noob on this kind of investment. Got expert managing our investment with lower fees is much more better than those investment bank outside. Why not give a try, learn and gain some experience on this. Also lesser time to trade and monitor the share market due to my business is growing.
MUM
post Nov 11 2017, 10:08 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(jusTinMM @ Nov 11 2017, 10:05 PM)
Im still noob on this kind of investment. Got expert managing our investment with lower fees is much more better than those investment bank outside. Why not give a try, learn and gain some experience on this. Also lesser time to trade and monitor the share market due to my business is growing.
*
👍👍👏
GloryKnight
post Nov 12 2017, 04:20 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,770 posts

Joined: Dec 2010
From: ~Where White Knights in Shining Armour Unite~
Eastspring so far gives me good returns. Good coverage on china technology stocks.
Jitty
post Nov 12 2017, 05:49 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,046 posts

Joined: Nov 2014



QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Nov 12 2017, 04:20 PM)
Eastspring so far gives me good returns. Good coverage on china technology stocks.
*
Eastspring GEM?
GloryKnight
post Nov 12 2017, 09:27 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,770 posts

Joined: Dec 2010
From: ~Where White Knights in Shining Armour Unite~
QUOTE(Jitty @ Nov 12 2017, 05:49 PM)
Eastspring GEM?
*
Nope, Dinasti Equity.
jfleong
post Nov 12 2017, 09:35 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
338 posts

Joined: Nov 2014
My portfolio (equities only, cash, CMF excluded)
CIMB APAC ex-Japan 25%
ES Dinasti 25%
ES GEM 20%
CIMB Global Titans 15%
Affin Hwang Japan growth 15%

Any comment? Too concentrated on Asia ?

(Those are values based on cost/amount invested, not current value )

This post has been edited by jfleong: Nov 12 2017, 09:36 PM
Ramjade
post Nov 12 2017, 11:04 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,333 posts

Joined: Feb 2011


QUOTE(geronra @ Nov 12 2017, 09:08 PM)
FSM app has a stimulator that show past result. So I simply add in few funds (common mentioned, cimb china, affin hwang, interpac) and I got around 15-
30% return annually. Seems too good to be true, but a friend of mine said it's alright to pump 6 figures of amount into FSM recommended fund and close the eyes.

Any thoughts? if got 1mil in UT means no need to work dy?
*
I suggest you post your question here. Nope it's not too good to true as it's real. However your gains is only materialise when you sell. If you don't sell, you don't get the profit. tongue.gif So say a fund makes 30% profit but you didn't sell it, then it makes a 50% loss, congratulations, your returns is now - 20% if you were to sell it

Unit trust cannot always go up as it's holding basket of stocks. Every few years, a crash will happen and all your previous returns wipe out. Is your heart able to take such losses?
T231H
post Nov 12 2017, 11:19 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,143 posts

Joined: Jan 2015
QUOTE(jfleong @ Nov 12 2017, 09:35 PM)
My portfolio (equities only, cash, CMF excluded)
CIMB APAC ex-Japan 25%
ES Dinasti 25%
ES GEM 20%
CIMB Global Titans 15%
Affin Hwang Japan growth 15%

Any comment? Too concentrated on Asia ?

(Those are values based on cost/amount invested,  not current value )
*
You are not concentrate in Asia but Northern Asia to be precise.... 47% of your port are invested into just 4 countries.
if this Northern Asia is inclusive of Japan...lagi banyak %.

Too concentrated on Asia ?
some would just say YES, and some would just say "go big or go home".....
but the most importing think is "what do you think?"

Any comment?
my comment is reduce it to a more balanced and geographical diverse port......for a more sustained port at a lower risk.
but it is up to individual preferences and likings......
as Sui Jau's said,...."You have to experience the emotional pull that comes from market ups and downs and learn how to handle your emotions during those times. And learning from mistakes made is the greatest teacher."

FSM had this to said....."....you might have thought you are an aggressive investor who can cope with a high level of risk based on the results of the risk profiling test. However, in practice, if you find that you always panic too soon every time the market dips, and get overly euphoric and pump in more money whenever markets are on a roll, then high-risk investments are not so suitable for you because they are likely to cause you to lose money."



Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
jfleong
post Nov 12 2017, 11:23 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
338 posts

Joined: Nov 2014
QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 12 2017, 11:19 PM)
You are not concentrate in Asia but Northern Asia to be precise.... 47% of your port are invested into just 4 countries.
if this Northern Asia is inclusive of Japan...lagi banyak %.

Too concentrated on Asia ?
some would just say YES, and some would just say "go big or go home".....
but the most importing think is "what do you think?"

Any comment?
my comment is reduce it to a more balanced and geographical diverse port......for a more sustained port at a lower risk.
but it is up to individual preferences and likings......
as Sui Jau's said,...."You have to experience the emotional pull that comes from market ups and downs and learn how to handle your emotions during those times. And learning from mistakes made is the greatest teacher."

FSM had this to said....."....you might have thought you are an aggressive investor who can cope with a high level of risk based on the results of the risk profiling test. However, in practice, if you find that you always panic too soon every time the market dips, and get overly euphoric and pump in more money whenever markets are on a roll, then high-risk investments are not so suitable for you because they are likely to cause you to lose money."
*
Which app did you use to get the content in the image ? Can share ?
T231H
post Nov 12 2017, 11:24 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,143 posts

Joined: Jan 2015
QUOTE(geronra @ Nov 12 2017, 11:15 PM)
so just put everything in managed portfolio then.
*
hmm.gif but if you believes what Ramjade mentioned below,.....putting everything in Managed portfolio will still have "that' scenario.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 12 2017, 11:04 PM)
I suggest you post your question here.  Nope it's not too good to true as it's real. However your gains is only materialise when you sell. If you don't sell,  you don't get the profit. tongue.gif So say a fund makes 30% profit but you didn't sell it,  then it makes a 50% loss,  congratulations,  your returns is now - 20% if you were to sell it

Unit trust cannot always go up as it's holding basket of stocks.  Every few years,  a crash will happen and all your previous returns wipe out. Is your heart able to take such losses?
*
T231H
post Nov 12 2017, 11:25 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,143 posts

Joined: Jan 2015
QUOTE(jfleong @ Nov 12 2017, 11:23 PM)
Which app did you use to get the content in the image ? Can share ?
*
from the respective fund fact sheets...then cut and paste.
T231H
post Nov 12 2017, 11:26 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,143 posts

Joined: Jan 2015
deleted 2x posting

This post has been edited by T231H: Nov 12 2017, 11:28 PM
T231H
post Nov 12 2017, 11:52 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,143 posts

Joined: Jan 2015
QUOTE(geronra @ Nov 12 2017, 11:39 PM)
so which option to choose? I have no idea when to cash out.
*
I think there is an almost similar post before.....
try read post# 6
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4344627/+0#entry85476209
Ramjade
post Nov 12 2017, 11:56 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
24,333 posts

Joined: Feb 2011


QUOTE(geronra @ Nov 12 2017, 11:15 PM)
so just put everything in managed portfolio then.
*
Managed portfolio won't save you if their bond allocation is only 10-30%.


QUOTE(geronra @ Nov 12 2017, 11:39 PM)
so which option to choose? I have no idea when to cash out.
*
Few options:
1) do dca every month. High also just buy. Don't care. Die die must buy.
2) take profit and run and hibernate, then pump original amount + profits in
3) stay invested (don't sell), buy on dips. sell during a Bull run say 1-2 years before you need to use the money. You should never be forced to sell just because you have no cash for that special event.

Have your pick. Option 1 is the easiest.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 12 2017, 11:58 PM
woolala
post Nov 13 2017, 01:00 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
51 posts

Joined: May 2008
Hi, can anyone share with me any spreadsheet to keep track of the returns? Purchasing by month can be difficult to assess the returns. Thanks.
MUM
post Nov 13 2017, 07:03 AM

10k Club
********
All Stars
14,855 posts

Joined: Mar 2015

QUOTE(woolala @ Nov 13 2017, 01:00 AM)
Hi, can anyone share with me any spreadsheet to keep track of the returns? Purchasing by month can be difficult to assess the returns. Thanks.
*
There should be one "canggih" one in post# 1. It is called "Polarzbearz ........"

jfleong
post Nov 13 2017, 09:31 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
338 posts

Joined: Nov 2014
If I were to buy a fund in a foreign currency, how would that work?
Is it possible to deposit using the banknotes for a foreign currency or do I have to pay in Ringgit according to their buying/selling rates? Usually those rates are shit
How about withdrawal? Have to be made in MYR as well ?
T231H
post Nov 13 2017, 09:52 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,143 posts

Joined: Jan 2015
QUOTE(jfleong @ Nov 13 2017, 09:31 AM)
If I were to buy a fund in a foreign currency, how would that work?
Is it possible to deposit using the banknotes for a foreign currency or do I have to pay in Ringgit according to their buying/selling rates? Usually those rates are shit
How about withdrawal? Have to be made in MYR as well ?
*
hmm.gif try this?
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/0...-Methods-2409#9
if the answers are not found here...
try ask them?
Mike3
post Nov 13 2017, 10:13 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,403 posts

Joined: Apr 2015
usually for rebalancing profile u guys do for the same fundhouse or different fundhouse.??

not all fundhse have good returns in bonds.
switching to different fundhse will require cost
woonsc
post Nov 13 2017, 10:28 AM

Financial Padawan
*******
Senior Member
2,032 posts

Joined: Jan 2014
From: Sabah, Malaysia


QUOTE(Mike3 @ Nov 13 2017, 10:13 AM)
usually for rebalancing profile u guys do for the same fundhouse or different fundhouse.??

not all fundhse have good returns in bonds.
switching to different fundhse will require cost
*
Rebalancing means to re-adjust your portfolio percentage..
Doesn't mean must be between equity and bonds..

E.g Your Asiapac initial 20% becomes 25% after a year..
Either you sell that 5% and reinvest to the other parts, or invest into other parts and make Asiapac 20% of yr port.



1553 Pages « < 493 494 495 496 497 > » Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0235sec    0.71    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 29th November 2025 - 08:20 PM