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post Oct 20 2017, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(jhlou @ Oct 20 2017, 08:57 AM)
eUnitTrust new website launching on 24th Oct, along with 0% sales charge

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Source: Email received

FYI if you are not following eUT posts
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This is interesting hmm.gif
When FSM want to do the same? brows.gif

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post Oct 20 2017, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Oct 20 2017, 09:18 AM)
This is interesting  hmm.gif
When FSM want to do the same?  brows.gif
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0% all the way then we talk. this one is opening introduction from eUT and btw cc ramjade bro you in?
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post Oct 20 2017, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 20 2017, 09:20 AM)
0% all the way then we talk. this one is opening introduction from eUT and btw cc ramjade bro you in?
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Precisely. Make it free for life then we are talking.
Nope. I already liquidate my FSM port and move them over to Phillip SG already. No interest in earning RM from my investments. Now my UT in SG are earning me SGD. brows.gif

This are what I will be using them for.
Phillip MY - to buy affin hwang select bond fund (parking place/SA)
FSM MY - to buy PRS/use EPF to buy (if they don't go the way of FSM SG)
Phillip SG - my main UT engine

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Avangelice
post Oct 20 2017, 10:02 AM

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anyone wanna guess what's next month's fund choice with discount?

got a feeling it's Ponzi 1.0
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post Oct 20 2017, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 20 2017, 10:02 AM)
anyone wanna guess what's next month's fund choice with discount?

got a feeling it's Ponzi 1.0
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If you already think that fund would be recommended why not buy it now. I bought on 2/10, already made ROI of 1.3%

But IDS is more geng, 4.9% since 6 oct sweat.gif
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post Oct 20 2017, 10:24 AM

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Hi all sifus, newbie here appreciate if you could advise me on this. I have an enquiry on income distribution.

Lets say for example income distribution on Eastspring Investment dynamic fund is on June 2018. If you buy 3000 units on July 2017 will the income distribution return is the same compare to if you buy 3000 units on May 2018 or will it be pro rated?

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post Oct 20 2017, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(atyt1985 @ Oct 20 2017, 10:24 AM)
Hi all sifus, newbie here appreciate if you could advise me on this. I have an enquiry on income distribution.

Lets say for example  income distribution on Eastspring Investment dynamic fund is on June 2018. If you buy 3000 units on July 2017 will the income distribution return is the  same compare to if you buy 3000 units on May 2018 or will it be pro rated?
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The distribution is paid based on number of units held by ex-date.
Let's say 5 cents per unit (final)
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post Oct 20 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 20 2017, 10:41 AM)
The distribution is paid based on number of units held by ex-date.
Let's say 5 cents per unit (final)
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Noted. Thank you notworthy.gif
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post Oct 20 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(atyt1985 @ Oct 20 2017, 10:47 AM)
Noted. Thank you notworthy.gif
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based on your question and his reply...
do you get what he meant?
care to elaborate?
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post Oct 20 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 20 2017, 10:48 AM)
based on your question and his reply...
do you get what he meant?
care to elaborate?
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Regardless when you bought the units as long as you buy before they announced the dividend June 2018 (Example), you will get the same return ( Be it you buy on July 2017 or May 2018)

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post Oct 20 2017, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(atyt1985 @ Oct 20 2017, 10:54 AM)
Regardless when you bought the units as long as you buy before they announced the dividend June 2018 (Example), you will get the same return ( Be it you buy on July 2017 or May 2018)
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hmm.gif they could have announced the dividend distribution weeks earlier....
if one sell before the cut off date...no distribution given.....
it should be Ex-date that is more important....the cut off date

Q: WHAT IS EX-DATE?
A: This is the date on which the investors will be entitled to a recently announced dividend if he/she still hold the fund.

as per...

QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 20 2017, 10:41 AM)
The distribution is paid based on number of units held by ex-date.
Let's say 5 cents per unit (final)
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btw,..buying before or after the ex-date will not make any different to the one's total holding value in that fund if there are no changes to the mkts movement

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 20 2017, 11:02 AM)
hmm.gif they could have announced the dividend distribution weeks earlier....
if one sell before the cut off date...no distribution given.....
it should be Ex-date that is more important....the cut off date

Q: WHAT IS EX-DATE?
A: This is the date on which the investors will be entitled to a recently announced dividend if he/she still hold the fund.

as per...
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Noted. Thank you for correcting my phrase icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 20 2017, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 20 2017, 08:00 AM)
last month, someone posted this before.....

Are you still holding Kenanga Growth Fund?
https://wisefocusblog.wordpress.com/2017/09...ga-growth-fund/
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Still holding it and hope it would grow stronger bruce.gif
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post Oct 20 2017, 12:22 PM

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When KGF up IDS down. When KGF down IDS up.
I'm moving funds from one to another instead of holding both.
KGF has been on maintenance mode too long...
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post Oct 20 2017, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Oct 20 2017, 12:22 PM)
When KGF up IDS down. When KGF down IDS up.
I'm moving funds from one to another instead of holding both.
KGF has been on maintenance mode too long...
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switching between both takes time. what happens when your luck is bad and you switch at interval when the funds are down.
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QUOTE(noname2188 @ Oct 20 2017, 11:43 AM)
Still holding it and hope it would grow stronger  bruce.gif
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What will normally happen when a fund is closed? Sifus please advise.
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QUOTE(frankzane @ Oct 20 2017, 01:40 PM)
What will normally happen when a fund is closed? Sifus please advise.
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You cannot buy anymore. You can only sell.
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post Oct 20 2017, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 20 2017, 01:44 PM)
You cannot buy anymore. You can only sell.
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But can I still buy when someone sells his unit?

Also, how long can I keep my unit after the fund is closed?
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post Oct 20 2017, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 20 2017, 11:02 AM)
hmm.gif they could have announced the dividend distribution weeks earlier....
if one sell before the cut off date...no distribution given.....
it should be Ex-date that is more important....the cut off date

Q: WHAT IS EX-DATE?
A: This is the date on which the investors will be entitled to a recently announced dividend if he/she still hold the fund.

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Have anyone ever question why is there 'cut-off' date and ex-distribution' date? Why is one date more important than the other?

If you guys preached that the fund value is the same whether before or after distribution, and that distribution has no meaning... then why is it important to know the cut-off date or the ex-date?

Are you guys saying that because it takes time for the fund company or in this case of nominee accounts, the main accountholder which is FSM, to calculate the distributed units to you? So if you sell the fund before the distributed units are added, you will missed the extra units?

In other words, the fund company or the main accountholder will keep the distributed units and not reimbursed the extra units to you when they finally work out and calculated how many units you should get and entitled to?

If what I am saying is correct, then why can't they write and inform you of the extra units?

Let's say you have sold the fund fully, in other words, if there was 10,000 units in the fund and you sold the whole 10,000 units. It does not necessary means that you have closed the fund's account. The fund's account could still be there, just that the total number of units in that account is zero.

This means 2 things that the fund company or FSM can do if you have fully or partially sold your fund before the distributed units are added or updated into your account:

1. Add the units, and inform you of the added units.
2. Absorb the units.

Correct me if I'm wrong...

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post Oct 20 2017, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Oct 20 2017, 02:16 PM)
Have anyone ever question why is there 'cut-off' date and ex-distribution' date? Why is one date more important than the other?

If you guys preached that the fund value is the same whether before or after distribution, and that distribution has no meaning... then why is it important to know the cut-off date or the ex-date?

Are you guys saying that because it takes time for the fund company or in this case of nominee accounts, the main accountholder which is FSM, to calculate the distributed units to you? So if you sell the fund before the distributed units are added, you will missed the extra units?

In other words, the fund company or the main accountholder will keep the distributed units and not reimbursed the extra units to you when they finally work out and calculated how many units you should get and entitled to?

If what I am saying is correct, then why can't they write and inform you of the extra units?

Let's say you have sold the fund fully, in other words, if there was 10,000 units in the fund and you sold the whole 10,000 units. It does not necessary means that you have closed the fund's account. The fund's account could still be there, just that the total number of units in that account is zero.

This means 2 things that the fund company or FSM can do if you have fully or partially sold your fund before the distributed units are added or updated into your account:

1. Add the units, and inform you of the added units.
2. Absorb the units.

Correct me if I'm wrong...
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This stupid distribution thing has happened to me, when I switched all into another fund, everything is transferred but not inclusive of those "pending" units. Later the miserable few units appeared in my account, but the quantity is too small to become switchable.

I had no choice but to do another round of work to sell them off.

That's just pain in your-know-where.

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