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post Feb 15 2017, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 15 2017, 01:57 PM)
hmm.gif just be careful....with this ~10% - 15% return p.a
for there is a possibility of 3-4% or less as feared for some years...
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well it's a risk I am willing to take. rather than putting this cash into fd
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post Feb 15 2017, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 15 2017, 02:06 PM)
well it's a risk I am willing to take. rather than putting this cash into fd
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yes you are...but is he?
10~15% pa wor...isn't that a bit too optimistic?


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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 15 2017, 02:26 PM)
yes you are...but is he?
10~15% pa wor...isn't that a bit too optimistic?
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Doable based on portfolio simulator, say allocating 40% to ponzi 2.0 and the rest 20%. devil.gif


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post Feb 15 2017, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 15 2017, 10:59 AM)
Yeap of course. it's part of your investment bro.
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Okay. Another noob question. What about PRS fund? It's essentially non redeemable till retirement age. So should I include it as part of my portfolio in excel or just forget about it? Any significance?
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QUOTE(skynode @ Feb 15 2017, 02:48 PM)
Okay. Another noob question. What about PRS fund? It's essentially non redeemable till retirement age. So should I include it as part of my portfolio in excel or just forget about it? Any significance?
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personally? no I don't consider it as part of my portfolio.

I'm only doing prs (will be in December 2017) to enjoy the tax relief. once they stop the tax relief and free money i won't bat an eye lid at it. I don't like the idea of locking money until I'm too old to enjoy it.
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QUOTE(frankzane @ Feb 15 2017, 01:47 PM)
Thanks. Do you invest in this fund? Wondering they invest into where?
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Of course not. Thought about it then cancel as IMO, it's not worth it. I am more of autopilot person. Doesn't want to moniter so much.

QUOTE(dasecret @ Feb 15 2017, 01:47 PM)
Why 12%? You do realise the benefits that you feel available in SG and not MY such as better funds would mean that in a bull run you would earn more with funds in SG instead of MY; and if you believe SGD:MYR would go up to 3.5 in near future would mean it's better to translate now than later right?

Just pointing out the obvious  cool2.gif
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Reasons:
(i) well to get ammo for my next SG trip in march
(ii) 12% profit is better than no profit right? Cut loss while it's still climbing biggrin.gif


QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 15 2017, 02:26 PM)
yes you are...but is he?
10~15% pa wor...isn't that a bit too optimistic?
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I believed 10% is doable. (United asian HY bond fund a perfect eg) 15% if you got nerve of steels.

QUOTE(skynode @ Feb 15 2017, 02:48 PM)
Okay. Another noob question. What about PRS fund? It's essentially non redeemable till retirement age. So should I include it as part of my portfolio in excel or just forget about it? Any significance?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 15 2017, 02:52 PM)
personally? no I don't consider it as part of my portfolio.

I'm only doing prs (will be in December 2017) to enjoy the tax relief. once they stop the tax relief and free money i won't bat an eye lid at it. I don't like the idea of locking money until I'm too old to enjoy it.
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Agreed with Avengelice. If they stop the tax relief, will not buy anymore.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 15 2017, 02:53 PM)

I believed 10% is doable. (United asian HY bond fund a perfect eg) 15% if you got nerve of steels.

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What so special about this United Asian HY bond fund ? Around 20% return for previous year ?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 15 2017, 02:53 PM)
Of course not. Thought about it then cancel as IMO,  it's not worth it. I am more of autopilot person. Doesn't want to moniter so much. 
Reasons:
(i) well to get ammo for my next SG trip in march
(ii) 12% profit is better than no profit right? Cut loss while it's still climbing biggrin.gif
I believed 10% is doable. (United asian HY bond fund a perfect eg) 15% if you got nerve of steels.
Agreed with Avengelice. If they stop the tax relief, will not buy anymore.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 15 2017, 03:08 PM)
What so special about this United Asian HY bond fund ? Around 20% return for previous year ?
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Guess instead of waiting SG platform for that fund, i will just transfer some from Esther bond to there tongue.gif

You can check the target fund in SG platform smile.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 15 2017, 03:08 PM)
What so special about this United Asian HY bond fund ? Around 20% return for previous year ?
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It's a AP bond fund which give 10% returns per year. Not as volatite as RHB ATRF

QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 15 2017, 03:13 PM)
Guess instead of waiting SG platform for that fund, i will just transfer some from Esther bond to there tongue.gif

You can check the target fund in SG platform smile.gif
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Min starting amount is rm10k. You got the moo? hmm.gif?

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 15 2017, 03:13 PM)
It's a AP bond fund which give 10% returns per year. Not as volatite as RHB ATRF
Min starting amount is rm10k. You got the moo? hmm.gif?
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I just checked the fund factsheet, it is not limited to AP, UK, netherland and what not are there too !

Given up on RHB ATRF already.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 15 2017, 03:13 PM)
It's a AP bond fund which give 10% returns per year. Not as volatite as RHB ATRF
Min starting amount is rm10k. You got the moo? hmm.gif?
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Esther bond is not part of my portfolio, rather, my FD reserve, so roughly enough to meet the minimum requirement when transfer tongue.gif

If convert also 3k SGD like that LA, not too big

Cos in poems, I will need to minimum top up 500 SGD to it, whereas if I put in Malaysia, RM 1k (roughly SGD 300) minimum top up only, also save TT charges and self Forex conversion laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 15 2017, 03:36 PM)
Esther bond is not part of my portfolio, rather, my FD reserve, so roughly enough to meet the minimum requirement when transfer tongue.gif

If convert also 3k SGD like that LA, not too big

Cos in poems, I will need to minimum top up 500 SGD to it, whereas if I put in Malaysia, RM 1k (roughly SGD 300) minimum top up only, also save TT charges and self Forex conversion laugh.gif
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For SG part United asian HY bond only need sgd1k. Way lower than here. biggrin.gif

Save TT charges and self forex = go there and deposit money?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 15 2017, 04:04 PM)
For SG part United asian HY bond only need sgd1k. Way lower than here. biggrin.gif

Save TT charges and self forex = go there and deposit money?
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True for initial deposit, but if want top up, then need minimum SGD 500 vs here rm 1k only

Easy for me to do saving here

Go over there need transport cost plus time, for me ikan bilis, not worth all that effort tongue.gif
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Another silly question. To be eligible for the PRS Youth thing. (Yes, I'm still young.) It's stated there gross contribution needs to be RM1000.
However, if we put in RM1000 for the first time, service charge and administration fees would be deducted from the gross sum giving a nett investment amount of less than RM1000. In such instance, do I need to top up to make the gross amount RM1000 so that I would be eligible for the incentive?

From the website, "minimum contribution amount must be a gross amount of RM1,000 which is inclusive of all fees and charges." So I assume they shall overlook the account balance which is less than RM1K.

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QUOTE(skynode @ Feb 15 2017, 04:45 PM)
Another silly question. To be eligible for the PRS Youth thing. (Yes, I'm still young.) It's stated there gross contribution needs to be RM1000.
However, if we put in RM1000 for the first time, service charge and administration fees would be deducted from the gross sum giving a nett investment amount of less than RM1000. In such instance, do I need to top up to make the gross amount RM1000 so that I would be eligible for the incentive?
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PRS in FSM is 0% SC.
admins fees and other charges is in the NAVs
only PPA a/c opening fees is charge able.
see PRS FAQs
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...cheme-PRS--8865
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QUOTE(skynode @ Feb 15 2017, 04:45 PM)
Another silly question. To be eligible for the PRS Youth thing. (Yes, I'm still young.) It's stated there gross contribution needs to be RM1000.
However, if we put in RM1000 for the first time, service charge and administration fees would be deducted from the gross sum giving a nett investment amount of less than RM1000. In such instance, do I need to top up to make the gross amount RM1000 so that I would be eligible for the incentive?

From the website, "minimum contribution amount must be a gross amount of RM1,000 which is inclusive of all fees and charges."  So I assume they shall overlook the account balance which is less than RM1K.
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as long as you cash out 1000 from ur pocket to there, whatever charges, it is still 1000 being counted smile.gif

I am young too laugh.gif
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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 15 2017, 04:48 PM)
PRS in FSM is 0% SC.
admins fees and other charges is in the NAVs
only PPA a/c opening fees is charge able.
see PRS FAQs
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...cheme-PRS--8865
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Bravo. Thanks.
": AM I ELIGIBLE FOR THE RM1000 AFTER THE DEDUCTION OF PPA ACCOUNT OPENING FEE OR ANNUAL FEE?

A: Yes, you are eligible for the RM1000 incentive as long as you have fulfilled the minimum gross investment amount of RM1,000 within a calendar year."
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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 14 2017, 06:37 AM)
I liked that up and keep on rising feeling too.....

some people said...... they are just like when on Viagra with Vodka PLUS a young and sexy moy

but some people also said.....
Historically, when the US market has traded over 17X PE, those were considered times when valuations were high. That means that the chances of a market correction in that market over the next one to three years have increased. Certainly, there are other cheaper markets than US to be in. Thus, accordingly, one should reduced his/her portfolio’s exposure to US equities and move to other more desired lower valued regions.

currently I liked the 1st group of people more, thus will continue for a few more weeks to enjoy the Viagra with Vodka PLUS a young and sexy moy's feeling.
just hope the feeing would last.....it just feel so much uuuumph for the past few weeks.
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Agreed. I'm just pretty optimistic with the US economy at least for the 1st Q of 2017. Investors seem to be happy and propelled with Trump's policies.

QUOTE(2387581 @ Feb 14 2017, 09:02 PM)
Why sad? More sick people means more business. I'd pray every one keeps getting sick if I am a doctor. Instead in my line of work I can only pray people needs to buy more houses bye.gif
Roughly adds up to 80%? 20% uninvested/cmf? hmm.gif
Says someone who speaks of switching/sell-buy on a weekly basis. yawn.gif
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I was about to mention the highlighted sentence and you did it before me.

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 14 2017, 09:23 PM)
I only see
user posted image

*refer to Manulife Asia Pacific REITS and run away rclxs0.gif* tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I see a lot more in her apart from the returns sweat.gif sweat.gif
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I see a lot more in her apart from the returns sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Amasia returns pales in comparison to Manulife AP REITS drool.gif drool.gif
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This must be the most active thread in Lowyat. I don't think we need to monitor the share market anymore. Just monitor this thread. If it is very active, this means the share market is going up. tongue.gif

When is a good time to take profit? To wait for Trump's 100 days honeymoon period to finish? Or to do it now?

If you are doing it now, how much profit to skim off? For the ultra conversative or kiasu, they will skim off all the excess profit.

For those practising Value Averaging, if your profit is more than 4% from 1st January 2017 until 31st March 2017, then to skim off the extra 1% profit ala Value Averaging style. This is based on the assumption that you intend to make 12% per annum or 1% per month. The percentage to skim off will depend on your targeted annual profit.

For those who think they have over invested in US, they may sell off certain funds completely.

P/S: The more elegant term seems to be portfolio rebalancing rather than skimming off profits. biggrin.gif

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