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post Jun 5 2017, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 5 2017, 04:59 PM)
really wish xuzen had data for Ponzi 2.0, don't think it's right that Ponzi 2.0 is taken out from multiple portfolios just because there was corelation value available in Morningstar
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In lieu of missing Ponzi two corr - coeff input, I used RHB - AIF as a proxy since both of them have high correlation, Algozen™ ver four simulated and none of the port has RHB - AIF in it. This, I may conclude that if I were to put in Ponzi two UTF into the mix instead of RHB - AIF, the result will probably be the same with Ponzi two UTF as well.

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post Jun 5 2017, 10:09 PM

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Next Algozen™ ver four readings shall take place early Jan 2018. I do not want to rebalance too many times. I think it does not add value if rebalance too frequently. Twice a year should be good enough, unless something major event happens or in finance parlance "black swan" event occurs.

Algozen™ ver three went for one an a half year without making any major changes until idyllrain came up with her / his teaching on how to obtain MYR denominated correlation matrix table.

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post Jun 5 2017, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Jun 5 2017, 10:04 PM)
Looking at the discussion regarding correlation prompted me to use the Morningstar portfolio thing.

Each fund can only have one price and one unit amount. I tried only putting in the entrance values only. Does it automatically reflects the changes due to distribution of units in its x-ray analysis?

And with a well diversified (or not so diversified) portfolio, we can only select one benchmark at a time? What should be the most suitable one? Does it automatically assign one most suitable based on the underlying stocks style?

I am quite intrigued in the info and technical stuffs shown in the pdf exported but I almost have no idea what I am looking at, I think they are beyond my current financial literacy level (what the graphs and diagrams mean, how are the values being derived).. Anyone can shed some light?
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To me the Morningstar pdf report's only usable part is the correlation matrix. The rest mumbo - jumbo part, I just ignore....

Let me give you a simile; if you look at a pretty girl, you generally look at the general feature and thinks she looks pretty. But if you look too closely, and start noticing too detail like all her hair, skin pigmentation, discoloration, wrinkle, white hair, mole, etc... then it becomes unattractive. Similarly, that pdf file contain too much information and too detail, making the whole thing become unattractive.

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post Jun 6 2017, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 6 2017, 03:36 PM)
avangelice & zuxen just entered KGF few days ago.... thumbup.gif
talking about timing..... notworthy.gif
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What happenned? What happened? What is it about timing?

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post Jun 7 2017, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 7 2017, 11:01 AM)
Managed to get tenaga at 13.76 when it was in the "stagnant" phase 3 weeks ago.
But I got this more for the dividend .
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 7 2017, 12:42 AM)
if you really want an investment vehicle targeting consumer sector in Malaysia I would suggest you ditch going at it via the said funds as they are highly volatile and just take whatever monies want and purchase these said stocks.

1. Nestle
2. Cocoland
3. HEIM
4 AJI
5.BAT
6. CCK
7. PADINI

these are the stocks that are considered as stable companies that give out dividends and be able to hold for a long time.
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post Jun 8 2017, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(galaxynote259 @ Jun 8 2017, 09:55 AM)
I believe Kenanga growth fund issue additional unit or cash distribution ? They have very good return but the NAV doesn't grow much
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Don't look at NAV, NAV can be manipulated by the Fund Manager using various method such as unit split, distribution, bonus split etc etc... it is very artificial.

To look at return, look at its CAGR or annualized rate of return on investment (ROI).

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post Jun 9 2017, 11:10 AM

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To further add to those who view MYR in the negative light;

I am echoing / parroting what my Licensed Financial Planner, LFP told me earlier this year. He attended his finance firm's quarterly briefing and his company Chief Investment Officer, CIO told the attendees that MYR weakness is not due to oil price low (it is a contributory factor) but not the ultimate factor because O&G constitute only a small percentage of export for Malaysia nowadays.

He attributed the MYR weakness to:

I) Market perception especially the due to the unending tiga suku AmDeeBee saga. The key word here is " perception ".

II) The unresolved ballooning of external debt to fx reserve. This is not a perception problem , but a real issue.

Item ( II ) is a bigger contributor to the weakening of MYR than depressed oil price.

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p/s To further expand on item ( II). Let us say you have RM 1,000.00 in your pocket but you already owe Ah Long RM 2,000.00. Let us say you need to borrow another RM 1,000.00 to fund your lifestyle. Will the Ah Long loan you the money at the old interest rate or at higher interest rate. Now the Ah Long will view you with a different risk rating liao wor....

Because of this risk, your credit worthiness takes a tumble and hence people will not want to take your risk. Your currency which is peg to your worthiness hence takes a tumble.

The above is a very lay-man way of explaining external debt to fx reserve.


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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 9 2017, 01:13 PM)
so in short FD sucks. only for those who are scared of losing their capiral and free to go from bank to banks during lunches.
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LOL! Snort guffaw giggles cough Ramjade cough...

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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Jun 9 2017, 12:28 PM)
Hi guys, im trying to understand consumer behavior here.. why do you guys go into UT instead of 100% fd ?
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The answer you're gonna get here will mostly be personal opinion which is neither wrong nor right. But they are not objective nor rationale.

Will you go and ask a carpenter which do you prefer? A hammer or a screw - driver?

To a carpenter , he prefers a hammer when he needs to work with a nail and a screw - driver when he needs to work with a screw. To complete a project he will definitely need to nail and screw.

Likewise, a holistic financial package will need to utilize FD, UT etc. Don't look at FD or UT as a preference. Look at them as tools found in the tool box of a holistic financial planning exercise.

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post Jun 12 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 12 2017, 11:12 AM)
the FSM MY managed portfolio is less than 2 weeks old.
but just for satisfy your curiousity....in less than 10 days it goes up by 0.6%

kaka23, here is the managed portfolio that i said i would share once i got it.....

seems like FSM MY team like to play pokemon ......
maybe they wanted it to be fully geo covered for me
well as long as it can performs,....who cares....
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post Jun 13 2017, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jun 13 2017, 11:39 AM)
I know many here are championing RHB EMB over RHB AIF but why.

Both have similar returns but RHB AIF have a lower volatility in comparison. Plus Asia pacific is doing not too shabby also.
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Yar lor... simply simply play UTF wan. Go and listen to that don't know who Algozen™ ver four etc etc ....

Dia siapa? Warren buffet meh?

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post Jun 13 2017, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 12 2017, 06:22 PM)
about 2 weeks ago, algozen ver 4.0 advise go higher % into FI
now FSM SG also going abit higher on FI too on 4 out of 5 of their portfolio type allocations

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"Adjustments To Our Asset Allocation
Following strong market performances thus far in 2017, we are modifying our asset allocation to in lieu of developments and what we expect for the future.
iFAST Research Team
Published on 09 Jun 2017 "

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/fsm/articl...sset-Allocation
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I think that Algozen feller either works at FSM whistling.gif

or

FSM and Algozen™ ver four are looking at the same set of data and hence it is very plausible to come to a similar conclusion.

I think the latter is very plausible....

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post Jun 13 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jun 13 2017, 11:45 AM)
Haha, who dares to offend sifu xuzen. Later he no giv advise and pull out Algozen all cham liao. But just curious to know. tongue.gif
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The most obvious answer is corr-coeff figure. RHB - EMB offers greater diversification (i.e., smaller corr-coeff va;lue) to the overall port compare to RHB AIF.

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 14 2017, 12:43 AM)
I can't wait to hear some of the guys complaining they made a huge purchase on ta global after alogen 4.0 came out.

Remember folks you should understand the risk when you buy a hot fund

also add on to the discussion on TA global tech

it is a feeder fund that has a minimum investment of 95% into Henderson Horizon fund which has been given a neutral call and given a below average ratingĀ  by the Morningstar group. you can read more on this in the link below.

http://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/funds/snap...x?id=F0GBR04E8V

i would approach anything to do with Trump cautiously as the Comey scandal deepens, his so called infrastructure plan to generate more jobs is still in the air, two coal plants in Ohio are slated to shut down next year and exiting the Paris climate accord giving India and China a strong position to take over the role as leaders in the global stage. read up and watch vox or vice what's happening to us and you will know what I am talking about.

Good night gentlemen.
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Somebody sounded a false alarm on TA - GTF. Saying drop 20%, but in actual fact is a unit split, which in effect does absolute NO SH1T to your total investment. However, the NAV aka fund price would drop with a loud thud.

This brings me to revisit the topic of tracking a fund performance using NAV as though they are tracking share price. NAV can be manipulated or " adjusted " upon the whim and fancy of the fund manager and you have absolutely no say in that department. And this " adjustment " happens often. That is why I recap that tracking NAV is an exercise in futility.

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p/s TA - GTF in my port is still awesome and handsome like him:
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post Jun 15 2017, 11:38 AM

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D1U ! D1U ! D1U ! mad.gif

All these unit splits ( TA - GTF ) and distribution ( Esther bond UTF ) really mess up my pweetty pweetty port. Previouly all were nice and green , today login the port is now covered with splatter of red here and there...

Have to manually calculate to bring in back to normalcy. Darn Sien wan! vmad.gif

D1U ! ranting.gif

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post Jun 15 2017, 02:38 PM

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Hari ini dalam sejarah:

For those who have just jumped on the Unit Trust Fund bandwagon and think that Public Mutual charging 5.5% sales charge is expensive, many years ago, before the existence of fin-tech startup like FSM or Phillips or Areca, 5.5% is considered cheap. OSK (now called RHB Asset management) used to charge up to 6.5% for their Equity Trust Fund.

Back then there are actually people who pays 6.5% sales charge to enter into Unit trust fund and on top of the already 1.5% annual management fee.

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 15 2017, 02:45 PM)
Yup I used to think it was a rip-off then.
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Compared to now it is a rip-off, but back then there were no competition and I think Pub-Mutual was their natural competition and Pub-Mut won the war because they offered something better at a cheaper price. (5.5% vs 6.5%).

Now, FSM / Phillip is winning the war against Pub-Mut.

If Pub-Mut wants to survive, they need to offer a DIY no agent option at 2% or equivalent. They already have a very good online platform in the form of PMO. It is just they are too slow to adapt to modern competition.

Also, they need to fire their current bunch of loser Fund Manager. They SUXS!

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 16 2017, 10:13 AM)
Xuzen or anyone,

has anyone did a manual calculation how much TA Global was affected by the tech dips? stupid unit split happened right on the same day it was supposed to update its nav
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As of today, 17th of June 2017, my TA - GTF has dropped around 3.00 - 3.50% (rough estimate) unit split already factored in.

My activity for this month, which is also my first transaction post Algozen™ ver four:

1) Buy RM 500.00 into TA - GTF

2) Buy RM 1,000.00 into KGF

3) Buy RM 500.00 into Selina Reits.

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p/s did you notice that when TA - GTF dropped, Selina Reits went up? Another beauty of diversification.

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post Jun 17 2017, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 17 2017, 12:26 PM)
no complaints from me here. I love my new port
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